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4201  Local / النقاشات الأخرى / Re: أحاول تحسين مهاراتي في اللغة العربية on: April 22, 2020, 01:09:09 AM
تبدو لغتك ممتازة بالنسبة لي بالرغم من اني لست افضل شخص يمكن سؤاله بخصوص اللغة العربية , ولكن ان لم تقم بالتصريح حول رغبتك في تعلم اللغة العربية ماكنت لاكتشف انك لست عربي من الاساس, بغض النظر عن بعض الاخطاء البسيطة مثل  (انه صعب التجارة) حيث يجب ان تكون " انه لمن الصعب التجارة" , ولكن بالمجمل كلامك واضح جدا, استمر ومرحبا بك في القسم العربي.
4202  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Compromised Antminer L3+ on: April 22, 2020, 12:43:10 AM
in most cases and according to my experience with the same nicehash hacker,

Quote from: mikeywith

This has nothing to do with Nicehash getting hacked.

Whatever you say.

 I think the confusion has to do with lack of knowledge regarding mining, by "nicehash hacker" I mean the famous hacker who uses the following Nicehash JP server and mines under the wallet 3BjMWfED7RJvtBPPikJpweDT6A9xRW952x, you can read about here and here.

In fact, even without reading a thing about it elsewhere, if you weren't reading out of context you would have understood that this whole thing has NOTHING to do with Nicehash itself being hacked and it simply implies a hacker who USES nicehash, this is the second time you do this and now I'm almost certain that you have poor reading comprehension, sadly I can't help you with that.
4203  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: innosilicon t3h 50t s1 hardware fault? on: April 21, 2020, 10:42:10 PM
hi guys update, my new control board arrived.. put it in... fired it up... exact same thing. gonna look at testing the voltage but the error code still says 30 which innosilicon said was pool issue. ive tried nicehash slushpool f2pool and a few that they recommend. all same. ive messaged innosilicon and waiting for response.

I have been following the thread and waiting for you to update since the previous owner replaced the PSU and you replaced the control board, it's all now pointing to faulty hashboards, this is a very rare case, we don't know the history of this gear, the other guy might have bought it used from a reseller who purposely attached dead boards and shipped it away.

but before giving up on this, I want you to try different network settings, by different I mean EVERYTHING different from the network cable to the router and even ISP if possible, and would you please post the pool settings you use? just in case you are making a mistake here or there.
4204  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: الأعضاء الآوائل on: April 21, 2020, 10:09:42 PM
الفكرة بكمية البيتكوين التي بحوزته والتي تقدر بمليون بيتكوين وماذا ينوي ان يفعل بهذه الكمية أم هل مات كما يتوقع mikeywith واختفت هذه الكمية إلى الأبد
طبعا نتكلم أيضا عن كميات من كل العملات التي نتجت من البيتكوين كالبيتكوين كاش وغولد

شخصيا شبه متأكد ان بتكوين ساتوشي لن تتحرك من مكانها ابدا, حتى وان كان حي يرزق ولم يفقد مفاتيح المحفظة, ولكن لو فرضنا جدلا انا فعلا تحركت فتاثير ذلك على سعر بتكوين سيكون قابل لكل الاحتمالات.

الاحتمال الاول, تحريك تلك الكمية الضخمة او جزء منها يعني ان العرض المتاح قد زاد بمقدار 5.5% ( مليون من 18 مليون) وهدا قد يسبب هبوط في الاسعار, من الجانب الاخر وهوا الاحتمال التاني ان هدا سيكون دليل على ان ساتوشي لازال موجود وقد يعطي قيمة اكبر للبتكوين نظرا لشعور الكثير من الناس بالامان بوجود مخترع  هده الثقنية, الفرضية الاخرى والتي استبعدها كل البعد هي ان يحصل شخص ما على مفاتيح ساتوشي ويستعملها لالحاق الضرر بالبتكوين, ولكن منطقيا ساتوشي اذكى بكثير من ان يسمح لاي شخص بالوصول الى امواله.

4205  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Compromised Antminer L3+ on: April 21, 2020, 09:52:48 PM
The problem isn't clear to me. Did the Antminer itself get hacked/infected or did Nicehash get hacked
gving the hacker control over the Antminer?

If Nicehash was hacked fixing the Antminer won't help.

This has nothing to do with Nicehash getting hacked, Nicehash or any other pool ( i am assuming Nicehash is a pool for the sake of simplicity) only has control over the hashrate you direct to them, they have NO control over the miner itself, so even if Nicehash gets hacked 5 times a day your miner couldn't be infected.

In a nutshell, it's a simple matter of how the miner got infected, in most cases based on my experience with my personal gears or most of clients/friends gears it's a second hand aka used miner that came loaded with the hacker's firmware, the moment you plug it in, it will try to infect every other miner on the same network, here is where a strong password comes to rescue, although there is no guarantee that the infected firmware won't brute force or key-log the passwords of other miners, so even with a very complex password one infected miner may very well infect every other miner on the network, but based on my experience it's unlikely, in other words, the hacked/infected miner does not have the ability to actually infect a PC or a phone and then use those to infect other miners, it only targets miners with the default password or the easy once and miners with SSH access with default password is more hackable than those with SSH access disabled.
 
With the being said, you shouldn't count on the limitation of the hacker/s, technically one infected miner can spread itself to every other miner, you MUST be paranoid and treat the infected miner as if it has superpowers and could do everything.
4206  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: New Antminer T17 issues on: April 21, 2020, 04:11:09 PM
I am 90% sure this issue is related to temperature sensor. Is there a way we can try and disable the sensor check on that chain? Yes i am aware of a chance of miner catching fire if heatsink becomes loose.

You can post in asic.to thread or reach out to taserz if he does not reply let me know and I will contact him off-forum.

have you actually tried to set a lower frequency on the bad chain?
4207  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain commoditizes cryptocurrencies, plural, as its complements on: April 21, 2020, 02:53:26 AM
[...]

I do agree to the majority if not all of it, however, what you seem to be missing is the fact that mining is treated as a "very short business valued in FIAT".

It is safe to assume that at least 95% of miners do it for profit and not for the love of bitcoin, the proof is, they shut their mining gears the minute they become unprofitable FIAT wise.

This alone should give you a good idea of why 95% of miners wouldn't listen to you in the first place. Now let me dig a little deeper into the "very short business valued in FIAT"

You see the thing with crypto mining, in general, is that the calculations are done very short term, in most cases, it's merely a period of 6 months on average, in other words, every mining purchase decision they make is valid for that short period of time, your theory is 100% valid if these businesses were to run over longer periods of years or decades, in that case, one would really feel that they are indirectly competing against themselves when buying from Bitmain.

These business "cycles" being too short due to the nature of mining gears' efficiency and the instability of BTC value in FIAT, the power bills are paid in FIAT and not in bitcoin, the "If I don't do it, someone else will" theory and the fact that most miners don't CARE about bitcoin price next year because all that matters is how fast they return their investment, all of these factors makes everything you just said pretty meaningless to them.

Even altcoin diversity is viewed as an advantage rather than the opposite, as far as FIAT profitability is concerned, the more alts the more profit, if for whatever reason Bitcoin fails they get to mine another coin.

So let's just assume 'hypothetically' the miners are greedy businessmen who want to make more $$ and don't give a damn about bitcoin, shouldn't you be blaming everyone else who doesn't mine bitcoin but owns it? in other words, shouldn't bitcoin hodlers be doing something about it rather than telling miners not to purchase bitmain gears? Roll Eyes

A person X who pretends to love the technology, cares about its future and sees the wrongdoings of miners, they should at worst case scenario buy a non-bitmain gear and mine bitcoin even if they had to pay more for the power bill, so this phrase here

As a HODLer who gets hit in the wallet by the destructive market effects of fork-attacks against Bitcoin, I do not understand why many other people don’t seem to care about the value of their own money.  Please.  Be more selfish.  It’s good for Bitcoin, and good for you.

You are asking miners to sacrifice profit for the good of their and your bitcoin, in the long run, we know that sacrificing profit for bitcoin is equal to spending money on bitcoin, why don't you suggest that everyone who owns bitcoin should mine at a loss using a non-bitmain gear to protect the value of their money and thus protecting bitcoin?

if everybody who claims to care about bitcoin was to sacrifice a very little portion of the BTC ""which sitting in their wallets doing nothing" bought a small miner from a bitmain competitor, then bitmain gears wouldn't make up 10% of the total hash rate, but almost nobody does that, nobody is willing to give today to receive next year, and when they try to spend bitcoin they would pay the LOWEST fees they can, I have yet to see a person who sends bitcoin with higher fees when not required to just to support those miners who are sacrificing profit by not buying from bitmain, so now tell me, how do you expect miners to do all of this for you when you aren't doing anything? i find it lame that non-miners expect miners to leave money on the table for them when they are not willing to pay an extra sat per byte for miners. Undecided

favebook brought up a very valid argument which you seem to underestimate, allow me to make a better one on his behalf, or rather reconstruct in a  (funny/lame) way.

nullius, since you are an owner of bitcoin and your duty, is to protect it just as much as its mine, pay me the price difference between Bitmain and Microbt gears and I will stop buying from Bitmain.  Roll Eyes

or in worst-case scenario.

nullius, please pay more fees for your transactions and stop paying the lowest you can so that mining profitability becomes reasonable enough for me to buy from another mining gears manufacturer.  Undecided

If you can't do that, you shouldn't be expecting him to leave money on the table, sacrifice is a two way street.

On a side note: all the "yous" are not directly pointed to nullius, it's just a representation of a miner speaking to a Hodler, nothing personal whatsoever, and I am by no means encouraging anyone to buy from Bitmain, in fact, if you have the choice and you can afford it you should always avoid Bitmain.
4208  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining USA/DE 255 blocks solved! on: April 21, 2020, 01:43:32 AM
It expensive until you hit a block (if they are solo mining).
Then they look like a boss...

Paying 10 times more than the rest is not smart, paying more than what you actually need to pay is plain stupid, the guy was placing orders outbidding NOBODY but himself, he could literally obtain all the hash power he needed paying only 50% or less of what he actually paid and nobody would have outbid him, that dude was paying  8.154BTC for 90PH just to get a 1 in 9 chances for the whole day, in other words, he paid 68% of the potential reward which has 11.11% chance of getting him the remaining 32% which equal 4.3BTC and thus risking 2 to gain 1  Undecided .in simple English, stupid as hell as far as the numbers are concerned.

With that being said, I don't think the person is that stupid, I don't even think they were looking for profit, it's either a money laundry attempt or a software bug.
4209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Compromised Antminer L3+ on: April 21, 2020, 01:32:38 AM
i change the password , i put a strong one. after reboot is hacked.
pls help.
The miner is far from me, i have acces from the internet.

There is no point in changing the miner's password after it has been already hacked, the hacker doe not need the password anymore, he is already INSIDE.

in most cases and according to my experience with the same nicehash hacker, even a reset does not fix this, and when you attempt a firmware upgrade from the web, it will show "updated" but it won't, the hacker tricks you into thinking it was updated when it was not, I had luck fixing this issue on antminer S9 by using the IP report button method to reset the miner and then quickly before the miner loads I rush to change the firmware, and it worked perfectly, another option would be SDcarding a different firmware and then immediately change the password.

But you should be extra paranoid, assume that every device you have on the network is infected, especially those windows PCs, so to be extra safe, you should either use another PC/Laptop or a mobile phone to change the password for the first time after the new firmware and if you have a Linux based system will be great, if not any of the prior options is good enough.
4210  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S9 Miner Problems on: April 21, 2020, 01:19:16 AM
Can anyone help me solve this problem after waiting a while the summary does show up displaying that the miner is on, but unsure why on a any pool site the Hashrate does not display.

What summary? where? how? you seem to have an issue with describing the problem you have, all we can do here is speculate the problem which in many cases does not work, you should at least upload the "miner status" page, take a screenshot using any snipping tool or even your mobile camera, go to this website https://imgur.com/upload, upload the image and paste the link here.
4211  Local / النقاشات / Re: توكنات erc 777 on: April 20, 2020, 11:49:10 PM
لم اقرا كثيرا عن اقتراح erc 777 لاستبدال erc20 ولكن احد اهم الاضافات فيه هي ميزة حظر عنواين معينة عن طريق عدم استقبال الاموال منها, فمثلا لو قام شخص بسرقة منصة يمكن للبلوك تشين ان يضع عنوان السارق في blacklist وبالتالي يصبح ماسرقه عديم الفائدة, يوجد العديد من المزايا الاخرى ولكن هدا ما اذكره بحكم انني لم تعجبني هده الفكرة اصلا, لانه البلوك تشين يجب ان لايكون فيه اي حظر لاي عنواين سواء كان مخترق , مطلوب للسلطات او غير ذلك, لان هدا يعيدنا للمربع الاول لساسية ال censorship او الحجب المتبعة من البنوك المركزية, حتى لو كان هدا سلاح فعال في سبيل الخير ومحاربة السارقين فهوا يبقا سلاح ذو حديث ومن وجهة نظري المتواضعة لا اقبل به.

اما بالنسبة للاختراق فقام الهاكرز باستغلال ثغرة تعرف ب reentrancy وهي موجودة في ERC777  وهده الثغرة تم التدقيق فيها العام الماضي ولم يتم اصلاحها , الطريقة التي تم تنفيد الهجوم بها يحتاج لفهم الثغرة جيدا وانا بصراحة لا امتلك الوقت ولا الرغبة في ذلك , اتمنى ان يقوم احد الاعضاء المهتمين بعملة الاثيريوم بتلخيص الموضوع  Roll Eyes

https://github.com/ConsenSys/Uniswap-audit-report-2018-12#31-liquidity-pool-can-be-stolen-in-some-tokens-eg-erc-777-29
4212  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Over paying for hash power, why? on: April 20, 2020, 11:21:59 PM
I can only think of laundering as a reason for overpaying. Whether it be FIAT, or more likely old/tainted coins into new coins either to avoid taxation or muddy the trail.

This is my top 1 most likely scenario, whoever did that was

 1- Desperate to get the power, they were way too far from other competitors, they could have paid half what they paid and still got all the hashrate they wanted, but they didn't care

2-  Knows enough about mining, their orders were divided between the 4 SHA256 markets ( SHA256 EU, SHA256 USA, SHA256AsicBoost EU, SHA256AsicBoost US)

The second point makes me rule out the possibility of a clueless person playing with a ton of BTC, and the first point rules out any rational or economical benefit where money laundering is not the sole motive.

Another possibility which doesn't go against any of the above points or I rather call them facts is a software bug, we could easily assume that nicehash is almost entirely controlled by bots, a simple glitch in the software makes the bot do stupid things.
4213  Local / التعدين / Re: هل ينجح التعدين بالطاقات البديلة؟ on: April 20, 2020, 04:23:51 AM
في رأي اذا كنت تريد فتح مشروع تعدين  يجب عليك الاطلاع على الدول التي تستخدم الطاقة النووية في توليد الكهرباء (لأنها غالبا ارخص الدول من حيث تكلفة الكهرباء)

الكهرباء التي يتم توليدها بالفحم ايضا رخيصة نسبيا, والارخص طبعا من حيث تكلفة التشغيل وليس تكلفة البناء هوا الطاقة النظيفة مثل الطاقة الشمسية , الانهار, الرياح و و, ولكن كل هدا لايهم في مجال التعدين لان سعر التكلفة والانتاج ليس هوا العامل الرئيسي في سعر بيع الطاقة, مثلا دولة مثل فرنسا تعتمد على الطاقة النووية بطريقة كبيرة وترتيبها التاني بعد الولايات المتحدة تبيع الطاقة بسعر يصل لي 5 اضعاف مقارنة بالصين التي تعتمد على الطاقة غير النقية مثل الفحم, ايضا الدول العربية في المتوسط سعر الكهرباء فيها ارخص بكثير من الدول الاوروبية التي يكلفها توليد الطاقة اقل بكثير من الدول العربية حيث ان الاخيرة تعتمد على الغاز والوقود الخفيف والثقيل وهوا الاكثر كلفتا لانتاج الطاقة, بدون الخوض في المزيد من الامثلة, رخص تكلفة الكهرباء لايعني رخص ثمن بيعها, مايهم في التعدين هوا سعر البيع وليس التكلفة.


4214  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Over paying for hash power, why? on: April 20, 2020, 03:35:36 AM
I have to think a coin was getting launched...

Maybe.

... or an older small coin was superpumped.

Peercoin for instance.

I initially thought CW or Bitmain or anyone else for that matter was trying to pump their coin's hashrate, but it doesn't look like it, all SHA265 coins are pretty low in hashrate, nothing major is happening to any of them for the past couple of days, check them out.

4215  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Over paying for hash power, why? on: April 20, 2020, 03:17:59 AM
The orders on Nicehach today were INSANE, many groups on FB/Telegram were talking about it, someone posted a screenshot and I thought it was a glitch or something, when I checked https://www.whattomine.com , found it was real! to double-check I went ahead and looked at the order book on Nicehash.



I want to hear your thoughts ( I have a few that I will share later) on why would someone pay 0.0906 BTC per PH/day? let's run the numbers in USD to make it a bit easier to understand.

0.0906 BTC a day = 650$ for 90PH he pays  $58,500 to make 1.55 BTC or $11,100 a day, that's a $47,400 loss per day or about $2000 an hour, why would anyone on planet earth pay 5 times what they can make? and by the way, this explains the crazy high payout from NH today.
4216  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: الأعضاء الآوائل on: April 20, 2020, 01:58:29 AM
الفكرة الأساسية لبحثي كانت التعرف على الأعضاء الأوائل بالمنتدى ولكن تفاجئت بالنتيجة فلماذا يوجد حسابات محذوفة وان كنا لا نعرف ساتوشي فهل أيضا الأشخاص الأوائل بالمنتدى لا يعرفون من هو ساتوشيرقم 11

لا اعتقد ان هناك اي شخص يعرف من هوا ساتوشي, ربما يكون theymos نفسه, ربما يكون شخص اخر موجود معنا بتاريخ اليوم, ربما لايوجد شخص اسمه ساتوشي بل مجموعة من الاشخاص او منظمة عالمية او اي شي, الامر لايهم الان, لتسهيل الموضوع على نفسي احب ان اعتقد ان ساتوشي شخص ياباني ذكي كبير في العمر, اخترع البتكوين ومن ثم توفاه الاجل, وكل ماتبقى من اثره هوا هدا الاختراع العظيم.

لايوجد اي معلومات بخصوص العضو رقم 11, ولا اعتقد ان اي شخص يعرفه ايضا.
4217  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: New Antminer T17 issues on: April 19, 2020, 04:50:13 PM
Do you know if switching firmware is reversible? I can try to see if issue will be perma-fixed with those firmware's

of course, they are reversible so if you don't like the firmware you can go back to bitmain, although there is a good chance that you might prefer it to bitmain even if it doesn't fix the issue you have, you will be able to overclock the other two working boards to get something close to the initial hashrate with 3 working boards.
4218  Local / العربية (Arabic) / Re: شراء كاش يو 250$ مقابل بتكوين on: April 19, 2020, 04:34:09 PM
بما أنك تملك حساب, هل جربت الشراء عن طريق التطبيق؟ أعتقد ان كاش يو قامت بشراكة مع منصة Huobi منذ بضعة أشهر.

تحديث: لقد قمت بايجاد المصدر:

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في الواقع كنت احاول شراء الرصيد لصديقي, في البداية قمت باستخدام موقع https://www.coinsbee.com/en/ واشتريت له بطاقة 10$ للتجربة ولكن لم يتمكن من تعبئتها, فعند اتصاله بالدعم تبين ان البطاقة صادرة من "ايران" وان عليه ان يستخدمها في "ايران" او طبعا عبر VPN في ايران ولم يتمكن من ايجاد VPN في ايران, فكرت في البحث عن مواقع اخرى ولكن المشكلة مع كاش يو كما تبين لي انه كل بلد له بطاقاته الخاصة يعني لابد ان يتيح لك الموقع الخيار في شراء بطاقة الدولة التي تقيم بها, الحل الاخر هوا "تحويل" الرصيد كما طلبت انا في الموضوع لتجاوز موضوع اختلاف البطاقة عن دولة الاقامة.

في المرة القادمة ان احتجت لذلك ساقوم بتجربة Huobi , سيكون من الجيد ان يدلي اي شخص بتجاربه مع المنصة في شراء وبيع البتكوين بصفة عامة.

يمكنني ان اقوم بعملية الوساطة ان احتجتم لوسيط Grin

نعم الوسيط اخي خالد.
4219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Beginner Questions on: April 19, 2020, 04:13:41 PM
In a reply to a suggestion not to buy an ASIC you stated, quite emphatically, there was little to be
learned from GPU mining and that he should start with an old ASIC first.

That's quite the opposite of learn before buying.

You are wrong. This is what I said

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I would like to mention is that in most cases mining with a GPU doesn't really teach a thing about mining with an ASIC, aside from picking the right pool and all that

It's common sense that both GPUs and ASIC or even CPUs have things in common, from choosing the right coin, the pool and creating a wallet, I stated that clearly

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" aside from picking the right pool and all that"

Now for the things that are ASIC-Only-Related, mining with a GPU teaches you absolutely NOTHING about ASICs (not mining), I think I made that clear enough, I am not responsible for any miscomprehension or cherry-picking.
4220  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Beginner Questions on: April 19, 2020, 04:38:08 AM
I respectfully disagree. There's a lot more to learn about mining than the type of hardware used to do it.

Then why buy a GPU and ONLY then buy an ASIC miner? obviously one should learn about mining before investing in it, that's common sense, my argument is that the point of "go GPU and then go ASIC" when initially you want to mine with an ASIC is an unnecessary step.

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The point is to learn as much as possible before spending on an ASIC so you can make an informed purchase
when the time comes.

Again, I did not say anything that goes against this statement, I 100% agree to it, it's missing one single part IMO and it should be

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The point is to learn as much as possible before spending on an ASICMining Equipment so you can make an informed purchase
when the time comes.

Please allow me to shed some light on the fact that GPU mining is NOT cheaper than ASIC mining, buying a second-hand S9 is probably cheaper than buying the cheapest GPU rig available, at worst case scenario - cost is equally similar, so there are no advantages in terms of the initial cost here, and since the price factor is out of the equation, the leaning process or say the closest thing to "Plug and Play" as OP wants it to be, there is no argument that setting up and ASIC takes less than half the time you need to set up a GPU miner, I mean its almost a plug and play for the most part, if you count the steps from unboxing to payouts you will understand why ASIC miners are way easier to work with but if you want me to go into great details on how one can set up 5 miners at the same duration they need to assemble a single GPU rig, let me know although I think that is common sense.

With that being said, if you happen to actually own a GPU, even an old one that hashes a few hashes above zero, you should certainly play with it before buying any mining equipment regardless of what it is, and honestly, with all the information available online, it's pretty easy to read and understand MOST of what you need without even trying.
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