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4201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ]: Boxing - Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev - JOSHUA WINS IN ROUND 9 on: December 14, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
Let us not forget it took Joshua 9 rounds to defeat Pulev and he managed to knock him out in the final few seconds of that round. If Pulev managed to stand up the referee would have allowed the fight to continue which means at very earliest Joshua could have won was the 10th.

On current form he would struggle against Wilder and have no chance against Fury.

I dont think that he can even struggle against Wilder, if he would be in same shape as he was in his first fight against Fury.
Ruiz showed how not ideal Joshua's defence is, and how he hold punches. Will he be able to hold aggression from Bronze Bomber?
Agree, he has zero chances against Fury. He wont outbox him and win on cards, neither he is able to KO Fury.

Joshua seems wasn't praise in his fight against Pulev, people are not satisfied with the way he showed that he wasn't so aggressive in the fight. Personally, I think Joshua is still a dangerous fighter but his style if he will not adjust, he might loss against Fury or Wilder.

That's what I noticed too, but you can't blame the fans, it seems like they did not see what they were expecting from Joshua, it was expected that Joshua would finish Pulev early with a KO win, but it didn't happen, it was in the late round where Pulev got knock out, and actually Pulev is not anymore on his prime that's why Joshua had easily dominated him.
4202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2020 US Presidential Election | Trump vs Biden on: December 13, 2020, 12:28:03 PM

I thought that it's all final and Biden is the clear winner of this election. But with those suits and formality that Trump is filing, this made other bookies to have a delay for the payment of those Biden bettors.
Just a little more patience for those Biden winners, for sure they'll send the payouts as soon as possible. Other bookies have been doing it, they probably want to be sure that there will be no ruckus if something unexpected happens.

Trump can file a suit but the suit is just an arrogant denial that he is beaten by Biden, they cannot sustain it, he had the money that's what rich dirty politicians are doing, file a suit so he can give his supporters and allies reason to still support him, here in our country, politicians are always in denial that they've lost in the election, they always think that they are cheated.

It's his right, his camp believe that there was a cheating, so they filed a lawsuit, and we don't know what would be the decision for that, however, people believe that Biden won clearly the election and there was no cheating. Talking about being rich, it's not only Trump that is rich, Biden is rich as well because he is a millionaire. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a34205042/joe-biden-net-worth/

Isn't it obvious that who ever will win the elections, the loser will claim that there was a cheating in the election. I think the results are transparent and trump should admit his defeat. I am not favoring trump or biden, but the should set an example and accept the defeat with an open heart.
Even bettors already know who wins, even if they back on Trump they already know Biden wins and they have accepted the loses, however, it's not them who complain, it's Trump who made a complain and bookies needed an official announce of the elections before they will grade the bets.
Presidential elections or whatever do not always go smoothly even if it is decided who will win and that happens in any country, and whoever wins and loses will try to find the slightest mistake to bring up.
And it's clear that Biden won absolutely without cheating and supporters on both sides admit it, and maybe Trump still doesn't believe he lost, so whatever it is Trump is just trying to bring up the slightest mistake even if it's not necessary. exaggerated.
If we will continue to talk about that, it will be a never ending discussion as both candidates have their own supporters, we should be talking about "bitcoin betting" as the title says, and until now bets are not graded yet since there has been no official announcement that is release.

Since there's a lawsuit, it will be the course which will judge that, let's leave that to them as they are the experts on that field and it's their job.
Let's be objective here as this has been taken so long, people are already bored on waiting.
4203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2020 US Presidential Election | Trump vs Biden on: December 13, 2020, 11:49:00 AM

I thought that it's all final and Biden is the clear winner of this election. But with those suits and formality that Trump is filing, this made other bookies to have a delay for the payment of those Biden bettors.
Just a little more patience for those Biden winners, for sure they'll send the payouts as soon as possible. Other bookies have been doing it, they probably want to be sure that there will be no ruckus if something unexpected happens.

Trump can file a suit but the suit is just an arrogant denial that he is beaten by Biden, they cannot sustain it, he had the money that's what rich dirty politicians are doing, file a suit so he can give his supporters and allies reason to still support him, here in our country, politicians are always in denial that they've lost in the election, they always think that they are cheated.

It's his right, his camp believe that there was a cheating, so they filed a lawsuit, and we don't know what would be the decision for that, however, people believe that Biden won clearly the election and there was no cheating. Talking about being rich, it's not only Trump that is rich, Biden is rich as well because he is a millionaire. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a34205042/joe-biden-net-worth/

Isn't it obvious that who ever will win the elections, the loser will claim that there was a cheating in the election. I think the results are transparent and trump should admit his defeat. I am not favoring trump or biden, but the should set an example and accept the defeat with an open heart.
Even bettors already know who wins, even if they back on Trump they already know Biden wins and they have accepted the loses, however, it's not them who complain, it's Trump who made a complain and bookies needed an official announce of the elections before they will grade the bets.
4204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Moloney vs Franco III: Ordered by WBA (No date yet) on: December 13, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
I was surprised honestly, I thought it was the same fighter that was defeated by Inoue because the last name was so familiar.
Just for FYI for those who are not really a boxing enthusiast, this fighter is Andrew Moloney and the one that is beaten by Inoue was Jason Moloney.

Anyone knows what's their relationship?

Well, I am wondering as well at first on who is the Moloney that Naoya Inoue was fighting and after some research on google Andrew and Jason are actually twins and both are a professional boxer that is why both share the same surname and face as well.



The controversial fight between Andrew Moloney and Joshua Franco was really rising some issue about the wrong call of the referee that the eye swelling was not due to the headbutt but a poke of a finger, because if you would look closely at the slow replay you can see that Franco's eye was still fresh after the headbutt, and it was then revealed that it was during a punch of Moloney that cause the swelling.

Wow, so they are twins, and they are both boxers, but this one Andrew is the better fighter I think.
Naoya Inoue also has a brother in boxing but not a twin, his name is Takuma Inoue (https://www.asianboxing.info/takuma-inoue.html).

Surprising, the twins has similar record
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/698248 (Andrew Moloney 21-1)

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/693965 (Jason Moloney 22-2, because he loss to Naoya Inoue. )

4205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where can I bet on who win on NBA? & can we also bet on other sports? on: December 13, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
I guess you should learn actual betting on a sportsbook here in the crypto space, we have a lot of bookies here.

just go to the gambling section and try to read comments on their ANN thread.
Check here ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0

the sites that I'm using are

1-betbtc
2-sportsbet
3-nitrogensports
4-sportsbet
5-betnomi.
6-stake

just choose or maybe try them all if you want.
4206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake or nitrogen my point of view on: December 12, 2020, 10:14:45 AM
Nitrogen has many of this from the past But up to now still Their players experience these incompetence ,Good that There is OP like that bring this to conversation so the Nitrogen Team may seriously look upon problem now and may act as what is necessary or else they will continuously lose players since there are already many sites now that offers more and attractive.
I'm definitely sure they are reading this thread, it's a very honest experience and opinion about their site, they just need to improve because they are still not out in the competition, they have the name, they just have to build it again.
4207  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★BetBTC★ Sportsbook | Bitcoin Sports Betting | Since 2014 | Instant Withdrawals on: December 12, 2020, 09:10:47 AM
Hi @BetBTC, I tried to find the betting odds for NBA Preseason and it seems like it's not available, aren't you offering odds for the NBA preseason?

Looking forward for you reply.

They may not be available yet because it has not yet started. not every bookmaker has those odds listed at the same early stage.
You also often see events that only start in months (just think of the Olympic Games or the European Football Championship).
Those matches are still months away and it may take longer before they are visible. I think they will be published soon.

I'm talking about preseason games, it's not a regular season, and preseason games have already started.

Here are the results ; https://www.nba.com/.. Tomorrow there's another games.

4208  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★BetBTC★ Sportsbook | Bitcoin Sports Betting | Since 2014 | Instant Withdrawals on: December 12, 2020, 01:12:52 AM
Hi @BetBTC, I tried to find the betting odds for NBA Preseason and it seems like it's not available, aren't you offering odds for the NBA preseason?

Looking forward for you reply.
4209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will XRP Surpass ETHEREUM SOON?! $589 per XRP💥🚀 on: December 11, 2020, 12:46:55 PM
It's possible but it's not realistic anymore, best chance XRP to increase in the near future is $10, I don't even think it will reach at $100 considering it's volume are mostly own by institution and the team itself have a big share on the pie, so I would say no for now.
4210  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: XRP Could Hit $1 This Year on: December 11, 2020, 12:17:24 PM
I love XRP to reach $1 right now I'm profit I bought a lot of it because of the flare token airdrop but I now have second thought if the price will push up because there is a halt in the market right now the market is not looking good still going down when on the last day of November it was picking at $19000 still at lost how things will turn out.

Tomorrow is the day where snapshot will be created for account holders of XRP coin and in return will be getting spark coin in coming months. But XRP price is also started to fall as bitcoin is also falling so somehow this may take a hit at the price and might not be even near 1$ for sure by year end. let see if it can be above 0.5$ or below by end of this year.


As usual, buy the rumors and sell the news, that's what people do, so I guess the hype is over and XRP will not anymore rise, unless bitcoin will start to try breaking the resistance again and will rise this month.
4211  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is this the long awaited bull run? on: December 11, 2020, 11:56:22 AM
I think the bull run only applies to a few coins such as bitcoin and etherem, it has not been experienced by all altcoins, of course the current bull run is not what everyone expected, even though currently many altcoins have experienced a slight increase, but  an increase it is still far from expectations, I hope the 2021 bull run can actually happen, so that it can give a different nuance to the world of cryptocurancy,
Then that is not a real bull run, a bull run makes the market great and if it's only for selected coins, I guess that bull run would not last.

Last time we saw was this month, or last month, bitcoin was bullish and altcoins have the same trend, but it's still not due for an ATH, so a lot of altcoins are still undervalued, and we have that opportunity to still invest since eventually a real bull run will come, probably not this year but maybe next year.
4212  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: December 09, 2020, 02:01:21 PM
A bigger prize from Adkinsbet even though it's a little bit challenging for players to predict the right score still it's free and any lucky person can win the game. That's 0.04BTC reward, that's really an easy profit if someone really manage to win.

That's some decent reward. I was surprised when I saw that the prize goes up to 40mbtc I think I should really careful to analyze both team. Well that's true that it could be a really good reward if you managed to win that alone.

The harder the game the better, having lots of winners because they have the same prediction is still good but it's sweeter if you are the only one who will win the reward, and thanks to their changes that 2 predictions is required.
4213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]Canelo Alvarez vs Callum Smith Super Middleweight Title on: December 07, 2020, 05:07:55 AM

Alvarez to KO Smith in 5 rounds or less, I guess you'll get a good odds for that.
This is not the fight what we are anticipating, but who knows, this one would become an exiting fight as the current situation may have affected our fighters.

That could happen, Alvarez will be to much for Smith and Alvarez wants to make an impact after he was released and now a free agent, I don't know much about Smith, I've checked some of his fights on YouTube, quite impressive but the big question is who have he beaten, no big nights compared to Canelo Alvarez, it always comes down to this question when it comes to comparison.

That's the reason why we are favoring Alvarez here to win, his opponent is not really that popular or we call it big name in the sports of boxing. This doesn't look attractive to the fans as they already know who is likely going to win, the betting odds tells itself obviously.

Callum Smith also has a high KO rate but I don't recognize the names he beater in the list.
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/631178
4214  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Suspicion of fraud by the bounty manager of Interfinex.io on: December 07, 2020, 04:20:21 AM
I think the team has to know about this too, and though the bounty managers made some mistake, I believe there is a double checking done by the team to ensure that data entries are accurate and valid, maybe you can directly PM to the team, but IMO, this is more like a negligence but this is huge as it affects the reward participants. Honestly, this is not the first time, I've seen a lot of these in the past when I'm still active with bounty campaign.
4215  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bad days for crypto on: December 07, 2020, 03:56:39 AM
I hope there won't be a bad day happening in crypto currencies again,
this year is enough with the dump that happened in Bitcoin, especially if the Bitcoin price fails to reach a new all time high of course very disappointed,
and it might be a bad day, i hope don't lose it in a huge amount.
Actually a bad day for some is not totally a bad for all because some are betting on crypto's volatility, they would be happy to long or short it given the circumstances and some investors find it a good timing to accumulate when the price dump, and sell when the price pump.

Let's see the overall performance of crypto instead of the short term movement, that way we will be convince how it become stable already.
4216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr. vs. Danny Garcia IBF & WBC Welterweight Title on: December 07, 2020, 03:29:11 AM


These are the boxers that we might see on the next fight of spence though he didn't call out after the victory of Garcia.

1-Terrence Crawford
2-Manny Pacquiao
3-Keith Thurman
4-Shawn Porter(low chance)


A Terrence Crawford will be a blockbuster match and bettors will be divided on who will be the favorite and underdog, they are two fighters with  an equal chance, on Pacquiao, Spence will be a heavy favorite here, we must admit Pacquiao is a very good boxer but Spence is a very dominant fighter as we saw on his recent fight against Garcia.

I will not hesitate to bet on Pacquiao if he will be indeed the underdog of the fight, odds does not determine their chances, we are talking of the legend here who beat an undefeated fighter, who knows, it will become 2 in a row to beat an undefeated fighter. +300 odds would be a nice one, Ill take it all day.
4217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT on: December 07, 2020, 03:12:48 AM
~snip~

Question, why do you close your investment when you are in profit already?

Aren't you expecting to increase your profit?

The fact the some of us looking for the right timing to invest, we pretty much think of the price volatility of bitcoin, because otherwise, we just invest anytime knowing gambling sites are operating a profitable business.

That is because I don't chase bigger profits. I know that the gambling investment can still increase, but we never know if the profit can change to the red or loss. I've been there before, seeing the profit appear on the investment page, but I don't close it and let it open. But then, the next day I checked, the profit disappear and change to loss. From that, I think I don't need to chase the profit, but let the profit comes to me, and if I think that the profit can reach at least 1%, that is enough for me.

We can chase the profit, but we need to know the consequences of losing the money behind that. Gambling investment is about how you can get profit, close it, and open the other investment. As long as that can give you profit, you can make it and have a chance to increase your profit. But that will be up to you because I believe that we have a different way to search for profit.

I understand, that's your strategy then go for it. you have more experience than me as an investor, I can tell that as I have been following your thread but I just feel your strategy is quite unique though so I ask question. Mind, I'm willing to invest for a year and will just it it here, trust the site to stay profitable and withdrew if the price of bitcoin is fair.
4218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Will Bookmakers Suspend/Restrict My Account if I Profit in the Long Term? on: December 07, 2020, 02:23:42 AM
If such sportsbook exist, you can think they are scammers.

They might limit the maximum bet they'll accept but they will not scam you even if you are wining. It's expected that there are some people who makes money in gambling, especially in sports betting but as long as gambling sites stays profitable, they can accommodate the winners.
4219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: December 07, 2020, 02:14:58 AM
Let us witness together if Westbrook will make the team great, or sh*t. Grin
For now we shouldn't name him Westbrook he's the reborn Eastbrook, Eastbroke, whatever. Well, we should still bite our tongues about this until we even get to the actual season and see how they execute it. He can carry a team and that has been proven when he got that regular season MVP last 2017 even though he hasn't have that superteam and just have Oladipo and Adams and just at par with his current team or maybe he needs a good Center or good rotation players.
Centers are not a problem for the Wizards, they have a lot of Centers which I think could compete to the best Centers in the league.
We can see the roster in https://tv5.espn.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/wsh/washington-wizards

These are the centers ;

Thomas Bryant
Robin Lopez
Anzejs Pasecniks- not familiar with this one.
4220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: GAMBLING SITE INVESTMENT on: December 07, 2020, 01:38:06 AM
Actually, this is the first time I saw investment into a gambling platform for me its looks like trading but also is there any kind of chance how the process will go for it? because right now I'm very curious how it works, I hope OP will help me and other members too or someone help me where do I go start?.

~snip~
When I try to check the history or the weekly report its looks like trading too, I have some knowledge in trading but not too much so why not I can apply here, I will watch the thread if someone could help me.

Gambling investment is not the same as trading. I tried to invest in Yolodice, but I don't expect much about making money on the gambling investment. I let it run like that, and if the profit comes, I will close it and wait for a while to place the other investment.

I suggest you continue trading and don't try with gambling investment because you will see the profit and the loss will always change from time to time. If you are no problem with that, you can place an investment, but don't use too big money. I start with no more than 0.002btc because that is the money that I am willing to lose in gambling investment.

Question, why do you close your investment when you are in profit already?

Aren't you expecting to increase your profit?

The fact the some of us looking for the right timing to invest, we pretty much think of the price volatility of bitcoin, because otherwise, we just invest anytime knowing gambling sites are operating a profitable business.
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