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4221  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Raffle] Kialara Silver Series 2021 'Exogenesis" on: October 30, 2021, 10:59:34 PM
Good luck all! This is a great piece!
4222  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Introducing- CYPHER HODL SMART CONTRACT TIME LOCKED COINS on: October 30, 2021, 03:46:36 PM
With only 5 made and only 3 up for grabs these will go for a huge premium I am sure.
4223  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Auction] BeYourOwnBank "Hope" & "Despair" | #001-#010 | Extras inside! ~ 6 Days on: October 30, 2021, 03:45:01 PM
#010 - .001BTC
4224  Economy / Collectibles / Re: HALLOWEEN ZERO PREMIUM FIRE SALE on: October 30, 2021, 04:34:53 AM
Sending you a dm for lots 3 thru 11 - maybe 12 and lot 16.


edit: thank you for the fast response and fast txn!
4225  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [ANN][WTS] BeYourOwnBank "Hope" & "Despair" 2x 1oz Copper DiY Coin Set on: October 30, 2021, 12:13:43 AM
love my set! great work!

I still need to get one of the first series as I now have series 2 thru 4



Kiss
4226  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Introducing- CYPHER HODL SMART CONTRACT TIME LOCKED COINS on: October 29, 2021, 11:48:43 PM
wish you made more - would love #21 to match my set of stamps.
4227  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 29, 2021, 06:12:33 PM
agreed - there is no point in escrow for an in person exchange unless the escrow is there.

the deal does appear to have been a transaction where the items would be shipped.

I am not sure of the body of the dm's that "came" from both parties that suddenly changed it to an "in person" exchange.

Perhaps it would have been better to have returned the funds to the buyer and allow them to pay the seller direct.

If that had occurred the scammer would have been the only loser here.


in further review of the dm's - several were restored by Theymos - with a disclaimer, if one party still retains the dm, then it can be restored but if all parties on the dm have deleted it then the message is gone. So there is possibility of further messages that cannot be restored if all parties deleted them.

that being said, I can see where I believe eseayan's account was compromised. The sending account should be flagged.

the incoming dm


inspection of the link


close up of the link


also - in the restored dm's were dm's to mj from eseayan stating it would be an in person transaction and then a followup stating the transaction was concluded.

notice to minerjones that this would be an in-person transaction


notice to minerjones to release funds and that coins were in eseayans possession


and a dm to eseayan and minerjones from raj thanking both for a smooth transaction.


then the dm from minerjones stating funds were released


this does not help eseayan recover his funds but it does show it was some elaborate scheme/scam on the part of raj and the "mtowfiq" account. Worth noting is that the mtowfiq account had been actually identified as an account being used to impersonate other forum members and was actually left negative feedback by minerjones about a week before the dm to eseayan was sent.

4228  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 29, 2021, 04:07:09 PM
I agree that the earlier messages state it was to be shipped but, I am not sure what he can do if he received a pm from both buyer and seller that the coins would be hand delivered and then another set from both that the coins had been transferred in person and to release funds - what else can he do but release funds?
I would not have agreed to escrow a transaction that involved in person delivery. What if for example, the OPs account had not been hacked, and there was simply a dispute as to if the physical coin was actually delivered? There would be no way to resolve the dispute as it would be one persons word against the others.

Notwithstanding the above, if the terms of the trade changed, I think it would be prudent to delay the release of the money. This would allow for the buyer to flag something as being wrong.

I dont argue against your points.

I just dont see what alternative minerjones could have had if both buyer and seller appeared to agree to an in person exchange and then both parties appeared to express satisfaction with the deal.

how can you delay funds transfer if there has not been any notification that  the account was compromised and no indication of it either?
The point of delaying the release of the money is to wait for someone to potentially say that something is wrong. If he already knows something is wrong, there is a dispute and he should mediate accordingly.

at the time he was told there was a physical exchange, there had been no indication of any issues. at least that is how it seems to me - that it was not until the next day that an alarm was issued when the account was identified as compromised.
4229  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 29, 2021, 02:55:33 PM
I agree that the earlier messages state it was to be shipped but, I am not sure what he can do if he received a pm from both buyer and seller that the coins would be hand delivered and then another set from both that the coins had been transferred in person and to release funds - what else can he do but release funds?
I would not have agreed to escrow a transaction that involved in person delivery. What if for example, the OPs account had not been hacked, and there was simply a dispute as to if the physical coin was actually delivered? There would be no way to resolve the dispute as it would be one persons word against the others.

Notwithstanding the above, if the terms of the trade changed, I think it would be prudent to delay the release of the money. This would allow for the buyer to flag something as being wrong.

I dont argue against your points.

I just dont see what alternative minerjones could have had if both buyer and seller appeared to agree to an in person exchange and then both parties appeared to express satisfaction with the deal.

how can you delay funds transfer if there has not been any notification that  the account was compromised and no indication of it either?
4230  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 29, 2021, 02:13:19 PM
I agree that the earlier messages state it was to be shipped but, I am not sure what he can do if he received a pm from both buyer and seller that the coins would be hand delivered and then another set from both that the coins had been transferred in person and to release funds - what else can he do but release funds?
4231  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] 2016 Lealana Brass 5 XMR Monero Coin (Unfunded) on: October 29, 2021, 02:08:50 PM
.0012BTC
4232  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 29, 2021, 12:25:35 AM
so my guess is raj sent the dm's from eseayan's account saying it would be an "in person delivery" and then that it had happened.

some may wish to see those DM's as they are not actually in eseayan's account. and in none of the DM's presented was it stated it would be hand delivered.


edit - is there any way to retrieve deleted dm's?
4233  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [WTS] Casascius 2013 Brass coin redeemed, numismatic value, still in case on: October 28, 2021, 06:48:00 PM
recent auction involving that art piece you mentioned

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366325.0
4234  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] 2015 Finite By Design "Real Bitcoin" Coin (Unfunded) on: October 28, 2021, 06:46:31 PM
.0005BTC
4235  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] 2 x Loaded BTCC Poker Chips (0.001 BTC) Pre-Fork (1 x Prototype Chip) on: October 28, 2021, 06:45:29 PM
chip 1 (sealed) .0037BTC
chip 2 (unsealed) .0036BTC
4236  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] 2016 Luckybit Rose Gold Coin 97/100 (unfunded) on: October 28, 2021, 01:09:53 PM
.0011 BTC
4237  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Buying Bitcoin bond on: October 28, 2021, 11:51:43 AM
Somebody makes them.

Looking for an unloaded one or loaded. I think it might be BG4 who makes them. The guy who's dog has the newspaper article about it.

I know I'm not too detailed but somebody here will correct me I'm sure

Check with minerjones - I got mine from him.
4238  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 28, 2021, 04:39:27 AM
A few questions remain to be answered and mostly likely will be in time, hopefully sooner than later.  Here's another one and I'm not pointing fingers but rather looking for more clarification:  Did anyone find it odd that someone would honor a request to take a pic of their own item with someone else's name and date next to it?

You are correct.  That was probably not the best thing to do looking back at it and I should have realized something fishy was going on.  Not gonna make that mistake again...

I would have expected more from a Hero member as a jr member would have know better.

first step is that he admits it - there was no proof of it, he volunteered the information. so that means he should learn from it.
4239  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [HELP]help me to get back my money from scammer on: October 28, 2021, 02:25:37 AM
Bitcointalk really needs two-factor auth at a minimum these days, and it looks appears it was a very savvy exploitation of previous PM messages to socially engineer a false transaction.

I'm not sure about that. Since the signature really does verify, it means minerjones was in possession of the XMR address in the message, and it appears the funds in question were sent to that address.

We don't actually know what happened without MJ's input. Am I missing something?

No, I don't believe so. Where is Minerjones Huh

He cannot simply state he never received anything and wash his hands of this - I'm sorry but this is not right.

@minerjones - Man up here dude! Let's face it, you've always been particularly shitty about that, so I'm going to leave you a neg soon if you don't reply.... FFS, this is a lot of money. Huh

Can you not even face a fuckin CAT ffs? LOL. 🤷‍♂️

it has been less than 48 hours - sometimes life happens and people are not always able to get here right away. Minerjones has escrowed millions worth of crypto and items and I dont think anyone can say he ripped them off. He also never said he never received the funds - that second dm simply states that he does not have the coins and does not have the funds.

4240  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [AUCTION] 2 x Loaded BTCC Poker Chips (0.001 BTC) Pre-Fork on: October 28, 2021, 12:48:36 AM
Nice chips, FYI the "sealed" chip is a prototype chip. They were mostly given away and never sold on the website. More info here: https://wiki.coin.community/BTCC_Mint_-_Bitcoin_Chip_1K_Bits_Prototype 

with this in mind

my bids are

chip 1 (sealed) .003BTC
chip 2 (unsealed) .0011BTC
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