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you have on real recourse.
you could hope for an older ex soldier that invested with them to find out he is dying of an incurable disease.
He has decided to prove a point and goes on a 3 company no make it a 4 company killing spree.
KNC
BFL
BLACK ARROW
COIN TERRA
but that type of story happens in the movies not in real life.
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I got my Molex to pcie adapters, cut off the ends, and wired them up to the PSU. Looks like these should work!  they look okay. keep an eye on them for wire warmth. 24/7/365 can take a while to melt a wire if you are just over the limit. |
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Interested in lowering power consumption requirements for my 65-nm gear. Have you made any progress on this front yet?
Well, you can replace one of the two voltage sensing resistors to drop the chip voltage to .85-.9 volts. Then you can clock down to speed 1 and reduce the power to 2-3w/gh. The other thing I'm working on is removing the 3 top side FETs per power controller and replacing them with two 052ne2LSI's to reduce power loss in the supply stage. With that you don't really have to run the fans on top anymore, my goal is to cool it with a single fan in the case end. That should lead to a quiet purring single hashing at 30ish gh instead of 50+. C getting way off topic but s3 undervolt/down clock really interests me. I have a friends office where i can fit 2 or 3 s-3's and use up to 800 watts. must run quietly . I ran 3 s-1's at 420gh and at 560 watts for 2 months. If the s-3 lets me go to 400gh at 240 watts I could do 3 and get 1.2th at 720 watts . this would be very good . at 3 cents a k-watt they would run until feb or march with out going past power cost. I see spot mini mines as my future in mining 1, 2 or 3 s-3's in a place with discount power. I have 2 or 3 locations in mind. |
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well off topic a bit but i did start it. There has been a huge amount of gear sold. I am extended into these area more then I would like . I have 55mh in gridseed blades. (11 of them). I see a problem in alt/coins. here it is: gaw Miners and zoomhash sell with pp and cc. this makes buyers a bit more fearless due to protection of lack of delivery. I see this area of the market flooding with gear. LTC diff is sky rocketing. |
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Honest thoughts: I think this is all my fault.
See, the math said two weeks ago that running my turbo jalapenos was no longer profitable at their 5w/gh power consumption. This is due partially to the lower efficiency of running a 5gh unit at 30+gh, along with the water blocks to cool it.
Last Friday I shut down my singles because with the 25% increase without a price boost my Singles were no longer profitable at 4w/gh. I have a feeling everyone else with 65nm class equipment did the same thing.
It is completely illogical to mine at a loss with electricity factored in. Completely and utterly illogical. So I think a number of farms shut down; you can't mine at a bitcoin price below that of the electricity used to mine.
This is why the Monarch chips are interesting; they can mine easily when others have to shut down. Unless you live next to a river or a volcano, this is not something you can get around easily :-)
C
(note: I will be hacking my Singles this weekend to run a lot slower and more efficient. This will help for awhile)
yeah all the above 2 watt gear is getting turned off. there is a lot of 2 watt gear s-1's etc. when it drops out growth will slow down to 13-15 %. maybe lower. |
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what power supply?
how did you feed power to the gear?
maybe the 1 blade is under powered?
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I said the evga was best. its biggest flaw is it is a little loud .
I have a seasonic 1200 platinum it is better if you want a quiet psu.
but it is 290 usd.
I can't find a good sale .
I use the seasonic on 11 gridseed blades pulls 900 watts for the 11 blades. the nice thing about it is 8 separate pcie cables
while the evga uses 6 pcie cables.
but 290 vs 153 or 170 and the evga wins out.
I assume it would be a bit quieter when not running full out - and it wouldn't be with the 2 S3s overclocked. Bitmain's original specs for the S3 were 504GH/s at 390W from the wall. Latest I read was that maximum overclocked draw was 0.981W/GH/s, so total draw would be ~1100 watts from the PSU, which might get the fans spinning. In any case... I've got an SP10, so I'm very well acquainted with loud fans  yeah that puppy is very loud. I was running 7 s-1's clocked to 393 freq house was hot and fans were really loud. And the wife was pissed off at the noise. Oh I hear it all the time... the first time I plugged that SP10 in, she came in from outside on the porch and said, "What the hell is that noise?" When I explained it was my new miner she said, "You have got to be kidding me. There's no way I'm listening to that damn screeching." So, I tweaked the settings and put it in a corner in the basement. Every day she'll still throw a comment out about not being able to hear me over the noise.  Oh, the famous wife or GF factor. If BTC goes to 10K, the first question would be-why you had ONLY seven? I agree that noise, especially noise with changing tonalities (like S1 does when it accelerates) is a major decision maker. If S3 is noisy, I will have to sell at least some. when it (btc to usd) went from 100 to 1100 last fall she did not complain much. If the s-3's underclock/undervolt to 400gh and 240 watts they will run very quietly . this may be possible to do. |
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Guys i need your help, i am looking to start my mining operation. I have never done it before, but please can you guys help me I am looking to invest 2-3btc on mining, i dont expect MASSIVE profits overnight, but some profits would be cool! Any experienced guys out there can help me with the setup etc:) thankx! okay first question is what is your power cost? Next question is longer. 3 btc gets you close to 4 antminer s-3's . they will hash at 1.8 - 2.0 th your watts use would be 1450 to 2000 watts. can you supply this much power? |
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I said the evga was best. its biggest flaw is it is a little loud .
I have a seasonic 1200 platinum it is better if you want a quiet psu.
but it is 290 usd.
I can't find a good sale .
I use the seasonic on 11 gridseed blades pulls 900 watts for the 11 blades. the nice thing about it is 8 separate pcie cables
while the evga uses 6 pcie cables.
but 290 vs 153 or 170 and the evga wins out.
I assume it would be a bit quieter when not running full out - and it wouldn't be with the 2 S3s overclocked. Bitmain's original specs for the S3 were 504GH/s at 390W from the wall. Latest I read was that maximum overclocked draw was 0.981W/GH/s, so total draw would be ~1100 watts from the PSU, which might get the fans spinning. In any case... I've got an SP10, so I'm very well acquainted with loud fans yeah that puppy is very loud. I was running 7 s-1's clocked to 393 freq house was hot and fans were really loud. And the wife was pissed off at the noise. |
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Just a heads up regarding the technobit miners. Under no circumstances should you connect more than one miner to one line, even though each line on a PSU has multiple plugs. The same logic would apply to the Antminer S1. The seller of the technobit miners advised us not to try to cut power from CPU power connector.
If you connect two miners to one line, then that cable will feel twice as hot when you touch it, compared to having just one miner connected. I have an auxillary fan to the side of my technobit miners to add extra cooling to the power connectors, the 4 pin molar plugs are the ones most prone to melting from overheating.
yeah not only not enough wires in the four pin connectors. they are very often 20 gauge not 18 gauge so it is a double whammy for melted wires. |
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yeah those cables 8 to 2 x 6 can do 300 max they have 4 x 18 gauge pos wires at the psu an 18 gauge wire will do 75 watts so 4 will do 300 watts (so pulling 360-400) is just too much for 24/7/365 use... The op was very lucky. Just think if he had been off on a 3 day weekend at the Jersey Shore he would have come back to a burnt out house. Yeah, each blade on it's only lead back to the psu. Do not split them, share them, etc. the 6 pin pci-e plugs are meant to carry a max of 75watts. If you are splitting it across 2 blades, you are pulling about 350watts... Ill show u in the pictures...
Won't be long!
I know just what you did.. the cable on the psu side was 8 wires. the cable split into 2 6 wire plugs you used 1 cable and it went from 8 to 12 wires. this means 4 pos and 4 neg became 6 pos and 6 neg the problem is very simple the 4+4 =8 pin side can not carry 360 or 400 watts. you were just beyond its capabilities so it took 3 weeks to show up. |
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I said the evga was best. its biggest flaw is it is a little loud .
I have a seasonic 1200 platinum it is better if you want a quiet psu.
but it is 290 usd.
I can't find a good sale .
I use the seasonic on 11 gridseed blades pulls 900 watts for the 11 blades. the nice thing about it is 8 separate pcie cables
while the evga uses 6 pcie cables.
but 290 vs 153 or 170 and the evga wins out.
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Ill show u in the pictures...
Won't be long!
I know just what you did.. the cable on the psu side was 8 wires. the cable split into 2 6 wire plugs you used 1 cable and it went from 8 to 12 wires. this means 4 pos and 4 neg became 6 pos and 6 neg the problem is very simple the 4+4 =8 pin side can not carry 360 or 400 watts. you were just beyond its capabilities so it took 3 weeks to show up. |
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Well shit... In the bitmain threads they are saying the S3 isn't quite put together yet. That means the current hashrate increase wasn't from them and that there will be a bump once they start shipping them out.
I kinda hope they are lying to us and have been testing the S3's. So who is responsible for all that hashrate that was added recently?
KNC neptunes and asicminer gen3 probably played a role. Also, according to my snooping at antminer's address https://blockchain.info/address/1QB8Ds5KbGYBLQa5RyDQ2sVUeSKWf7qgkZ it doesn't look like they have sold more than ~5000 S3s so far. This would only increase the difficulty a tiny 2% if everything got turned on at the same time. We may finally, finally be seeing a plateau! I think the issue now is the margins on the hardware are quickly dropping and it's just not worth it for manufactures to produce more machines. I agree that diff will flatten . And sooner over later. take the pattern I use of replacing older gear with newer gear. looking to get more hash better power decent price. I am not the only person doing this. Now look at gear that does 2 watts per hash. And see that all 2 watt gear will not pay for power at a diff of 41 and btc at 620 usd. power at 15 cents. So all 2 watt gear is going to phase out . I no longer own any 2 watt gear (well 9 fury usb sticks) and I have 1th at 1000 watts and soon to have s-3's. My guess is quite a few miners are moving selling shifting their 2 watt gear. the 200 days from dec 21st 2013 to july 9 2014 growth is about 18% the prior 200 days growth was 24% the next 200 days growth will be under 18% my guess stands at 13-15%. asics will hit a wall .5 watts or at best .2 watts. this wall will be reached right around the next halving . Should be very interesting to see it happen. Or will all growth be moved towards LTC/alt coins? |
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Well shit... In the bitmain threads they are saying the S3 isn't quite put together yet. That means the current hashrate increase wasn't from them and that there will be a bump once they start shipping them out.
I kinda hope they are lying to us and have been testing the S3's. So who is responsible for all that hashrate that was added recently?
my feeling is bitmaintech. but not with s-3's. they may have a lot more s-1's + s-2's. they underclocked /undervolted them and ran them. But I am hoping that they just ran the s-3's and are playing with the truth same as you are hoping. I also think bitmaintech may have the ability to build far more gear then we realize. Then store it off line rather then mine it. This would be good as it would mean they want the mining game to last for years. |
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I wait for answer from him, about my compensation.
Everything is OK now. It is good to read it here that Sushi is fixing his errors. |
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