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4261  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: exchange Bitcoins To Paypal on: April 06, 2015, 01:37:03 PM
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You wont have luck with this. You dont have enough trust that anyone will try out your service.

On top... your suggestion to test out your service is of no value. Its not that people fear that you dont send them anything, they fear you send but charge back some months later.

So far that "test it out" is risky on another level too. For sure a scammer would send out small amount. But once the big amounts come in they stop their service. Thats what ponzies do.

So no, that wont work.
4262  Economy / Gambling / Re: DaDice.com - Next Generation Social Gambling Dice Experience on: April 06, 2015, 01:34:42 PM
dadice... you really should consider the workload of your game script. I sometimes log in to see if i got referrals that play and everytime i do so, and the script is running, my firefox workload is maxed out. Leaving it at this doesnt make fun browsing anymore.

As soon as i log out the workload is gone again.

So i think it would be a good idea to check if you can do some optimisations on that front.
4263  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Easter egg on: April 06, 2015, 01:05:26 PM
I dont want to search so long but maybe you mean that you can, with the use of change addresses, find out, with a high certainty, more addresses someone owns?

Change addresses are a risk to anonymity in my eyes.

Only guessing...  Tongue
4264  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Marketplace Buttercoin Folds Despite $1.3 Million Investment on: April 06, 2015, 12:52:43 PM
Would be interesting to know what amount of money they still have in order to pay it back to their investors. I guess it would be hard to explain if much is gone.

But i like the news so far because it seems to be the first exchange or eve bitcoin venture that went wrong and actually can refund the investors, hopefully for the biggest part.
4265  Economy / Securities / Re: HAVELOCK tried to BRIBE ME! on: April 06, 2015, 12:19:09 PM
Most likely he's just taking advantage of the situation to extort some guy he knows has a lot of btc since it worked with Mr PBmining.

Did it really work with PBmining? Is there a thread about this?

I found this thread about the situation with pbmining: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887871.0 though i didnt find that Airwolf was the one who was paid for threats. Only claims by others that he even got his coins from MtGox back, which sounds highly unlikely.

So can you give a lead to informations on this?

If true then i guess its easier to get coins back from a scammer who fears being doxxed and still has the coins instead getting coins from a business that went wrong and simply doesnt have coins anymore.
4266  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Decentralized Army on: April 06, 2015, 11:54:55 AM
You would need to think very careful about how to organize an army consisting of many different subarmies. Normally there is one big head who organizes everything and through delegating he can command and act fast. But if this is missing then i wonder how reaction time would be in case of a war.

One thing to consider too... whose bread i eat those song i sing. Even if you say these people will be honest, we already see that this wont be really true. Think about universities or newspapers. They all depend on donations and know what... the result is that universities dont do science for the danger of GMO. They would lose a lot of money if they would do so.

Or newspapers... losing a big advertising partner can be deadly.

So im not sure how to prevent that those persons have an unhealty influence. Its not so very different from now then.

We live it a digital era now, its not like we need to send scouts on horse between armies to communicate. We could have a control center on the internet itself, and the internet could vote about combat strategies based on a rank system.

An anonymous , decentralized HQ, which would be based on a rank system. For example people would have to play a video game simulator about a combat situation and whomever would score the highest that score would be added to his anonymous profile, and the highest their score is the more voting rights they have, over the real army.

This would ensure that the leadership to be also a decentralized network of specialists, which would be much better than current generals, and also since they would be anonymous and decentralized, no outside influence could influence them.

But this assembly would only assemble when a full out war would happen, local problems would be dealt by the local militias.

Though that might add risk to the war. Giving out the actual status of war to many generals might mean that the risk of one of them being a spy is very high. That means that having so many people to know about the status lowers the chance of winning a battle.

Maybe it could be turned out a bit by users that play different battle situations regularly and based on the outcomes they get scores. Then, depending on the actual battle data confidentially only a handfull could be chosen. Of course the risk still exists because foreign countries might want to place a general in this group.
4267  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 05, 2015, 05:54:10 PM
I meant that there has to be two FRR rates. One for receive swap, one for offer swap. It sounded like you thought the option to use FRR rates for receive swap means that, when disabled, and chosing a rate that is higher than FRR on the swap offers orderbook, that you can clear this orderbook without taking the FRR-rate swaps.

Pretty sure FRR is always just one rate, for both offering and receiving funds. Or are you saying there ought to be two rates?

Problem would be that if you create a difference between the rate being paid and the rate being received, either Bitfinex would be stealing the difference (if the rate paid by traders is lower than the rate received by lenders) or there would be a shortfall in the funds collected and Bitfinex would have to pay to cover the difference and bring it up to the rate the lenders expect to receive (if the rate received is higher than the rate paid)

Hm... in that case its definitively a bug when FRR shows up on the swaps demand side. I saw them there often and was wondering why since the rates werent the way that they could be there.

I dont see a reason for that option existing. In fact its unfair to those offering at FRR. Why give them an disadvantage against normal orders? Is there a reason that explains this?

Fixed and variable rates aren't strictly comparable; you can't say with certainty that one is a "better rate" than the other because the variable rate could change at any time. A situation can be imagined where you would want to lock in a fixed rate that's slightly higher than the FRR at that moment, in case the FRR rises in the near future. That doesn't really explain why anyone would choose to take a 0.7% fixed rate over a 0.1% variable rate, but it does explain why the option exists to choose to not take variable-rate swaps.

Oh, you mean taking an FRR rate means that your taken swap constantly changes the daily rate? I did not think so. I thought its only for offering the swaps. When the swaps are taken then its a normal swap with the rate fixed for the rate it had when you took it.
Would be a strange setup if it works not that way.
4268  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 04, 2015, 08:06:24 PM
Im not sure that this option means that you dont want FRR swaps. For me it means that you want to take swaps at FRR price and i think that FRR for receive swap is another percent value since it wouldnt make sense otherwise. So one would create an FRR at the FRR for actively given swaps on the green side. So probably something way below the 0.11%. It really would be strange if its another way. But when i think about it. Im sure it isnt that way. Most users dont even have this option checked i think and still the FRR wall is eaten a bit often.

I'm having real trouble figuring out what you mean here. For example, "one would create an FRR at the FRR for actively given swaps on the green side" is not a phrase that I'm able to parse.

I'm looking at the Margin Trade page, where there's a dropdown section titled "Margin available", which... doesn't seem to be entirely accurate, but attempts to say how much money is available for swaps. There's a checkbox labelled "Include variable rates?". I'm assuming that with that box ticked, FRR-swaps are included in the margin available for you to take from, and that with it unticked you'll instead only take swaps from fixed-rate offers.

Sorry for that. Tongue

I meant that there has to be two FRR rates. One for receive swap, one for offer swap. It sounded like you thought the option to use FRR rates for receive swap means that, when disabled, and chosing a rate that is higher than FRR on the swap offers orderbook, that you can clear this orderbook without taking the FRR-rate swaps.

But i see now what you mean. With include variable rates? one can circumvent the FRR-wall.

I dont see a reason for that option existing. In fact its unfair to those offering at FRR. Why give them an disadvantage against normal orders? Is there a reason that explains this?

simple email to support would answer this

"The IP address belongs to Incapsula, which is our DDoS protection service.

As Incapsula acts as a proxy for Bitfinex, it means that we have to be relying on extra information from your connection to "guess" the IP address. If for some reasons the network you used or the browser you used did not forward any of that information, the Incapsula IP can appear in lieu of your real IP.

I fully understand your concern. You experienced the affects of a DDoS attempt, though very annoying, no real bug. "

camolist you got that answer from support? it is very confusing and lacks of technical detail, there is nothing to "guess" about a source IP address, every connection comes with a source IP address and nothing need to be forwarded...
This is the first time happening to me in about a year, and if ppl start seeing successfull logins history from FOREIGN IP addresses this is absolutely normal to start worrying and flooding email support with questions.


I wonder too what that answer means. I mean i always use the same browser. Its not possible that from this ip a ddos came in so my ip should always be the same. And i doubt that camolist is used as a proxy and they log in with my login details so that their IP is shown when they forward my login details. Would be a bit weird that way.

I havent seen such IP-login-stat with other exchanges too.
4269  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 04, 2015, 06:52:26 PM
Yes, i have a similar behaviour. Im logged in but when i click a link i get a blank page. Reloading again i have to relogin. And when i did so then it start again after i clicked the first link inside.

This worries me. I hope its not that my account is safe because of 2FA but others arent. If enough other accounts were hacked successfully then my funds would be missing too. I really hope everything is fine.

Staff?

Edit: And yes i see IPs logged in that werent mine? GUYS?

Now i see that i logged in 18:29 with my correct ip and ten minutes later with a different one. Though im still logged in. I run MarginBot so i thought it might be that but its different IPs and my server has a fixed one that doesnt show up as far as i see.

I hope all is well but if something strange is going on i would suggest make sure funds are safe.

Ok you experienced exactly the same as me, by any chance the IP you see on logins history is "198.143.41.97" ? I already opened a ticket with them by emailing support, hope this is a bug on their system and this is not hackers... I will post some news if I figure out simething else...

Its not that ip but others i dont know. I think its a good guess that a hacker is using tornodes or other proxies. So i think the ips would be different all the time.

But it stopped now. I dont know why. Did bitfinex act or the hacker wasnt successful. Anyway... seeing these logs saying these ip successfully logged in doesnt make me feel safe.

Though when i see my past logs i see that there are many different ips. My provider gives me a semi non dynamic IP, so for long times i should have the same ip. And if it changes it should be in the same ip area. So im wondering what these ips mean.

Maybe im worried too much but i think being worried because of such thing is smart since there are enough exchanges that died already.
4270  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 04, 2015, 04:54:34 PM
I dont understand what you mean with tunneling. Either FRR is eaten up by 6 figues + or not. But i dont see how it could get tunneled normally.

When taking  a swap you can choose whether you want your demand to be matched with variable-rate swap offers or not. Which makes sense as a feature to have, because "FRR, currently 0.1%" isn't necessarily better than, say, a fixed-rate swap at 0.11%, if you expect the going rate to rise. But when someone specifies a demand for a massive amount of swap with "Don't take variable-rate swaps" checked, they can sweep out all the fixed-rate offers up to 0.75% without touching the FRR wall at all.

Possible motivation for doing so... I guess it could be an attempt to push up the flash rate. If so, it is at least a "gentler" way of moving the going rate than the old game of "It grinds slowly down for months until at 0.02% the whole FRR wall goes at once, and then the going rate jumps dramatically up to 0.75% until the wall is rebuilt"

By the way (as someone who has already lent out money at Bitfinex at rates far beyond 1%/day historically): Even if you manage to get a 0.6%/day 30d loan out there, don't expect it to last any substantial amount of time.

Mostly very true - they don't last long. But if you happen to have funds repaid at the right moment it can still be worth trying to catch the spikes. I've had the rare/occasional swap last a lot longer than expected at a high rate (at least one that's still going after 2 weeks). My guess is that they're small enough quantities that the high rate passes unnoticed because the total fee remains low.

Im not sure that this option means that you dont want FRR swaps. For me it means that you want to take swaps at FRR price and i think that FRR for receive swap is another percent value since it wouldnt make sense otherwise. So one would create an FRR at the FRR for actively given swaps on the green side. So probably something way below the 0.11%. It really would be strange if its another way. But when i think about it. Im sure it isnt that way. Most users dont even have this option checked i think and still the FRR wall is eaten a bit often.

Might be wrong though. Staff?

Edit: Oh, and yes... i think most users dont care about the rate of swaps they automatically took. Its simply mostly in the same area.
4271  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 04, 2015, 04:38:25 PM
Today I experienced some strange behaviour with Bitfinex web site, screen went blank everytime a page was requested, I logued out, and logued in again after about 30 mins, and all started working ok again.
Then I went to account security / logins history and found two successfull login from an IP that it was not me, IP was from another country.
I think nothing was stolen from my account because I have two factor authentication, but I'm worried about this.
Anyone experiences something similar?, ofc I already changed my account password, but I should have some device compromised or this is some bug at Bitfinex  Huh  Angry the password was impossible to guess btw...

Yes, i have a similar behaviour. Im logged in but when i click a link i get a blank page. Reloading again i have to relogin. And when i did so then it start again after i clicked the first link inside.

This worries me. I hope its not that my account is safe because of 2FA but others arent. If enough other accounts were hacked successfully then my funds would be missing too. I really hope everything is fine.

Staff?

Edit: And yes i see IPs logged in that werent mine? GUYS?

Now i see that i logged in 18:29 with my correct ip and ten minutes later with a different one. Though im still logged in. I run MarginBot so i thought it might be that but its different IPs and my server has a fixed one that doesnt show up as far as i see.

I hope all is well but if something strange is going on i would suggest make sure funds are safe.
4272  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Decentralized Army on: April 03, 2015, 03:32:58 PM
You would need to think very careful about how to organize an army consisting of many different subarmies. Normally there is one big head who organizes everything and through delegating he can command and act fast. But if this is missing then i wonder how reaction time would be in case of a war.

One thing to consider too... whose bread i eat those song i sing. Even if you say these people will be honest, we already see that this wont be really true. Think about universities or newspapers. They all depend on donations and know what... the result is that universities dont do science for the danger of GMO. They would lose a lot of money if they would do so.

Or newspapers... losing a big advertising partner can be deadly.

So im not sure how to prevent that those persons have an unhealty influence. Its not so very different from now then.

When speaking about replacing... what about all the big war things that only a small army cant afford. Plane carrier, stealth bomber, development of these tools.

I think militias has to constantly check things out on other militias in order to prevent that an area, where maybe only rasist or a sect live, have their own legal army and make their own ruling because of that. When the people living their think its fine and good to kill other races then this army is bound to those local rules. Though rules should be defined on a larger scale.

At least some rule would have to be there that militias has to check out the other militias in order to see what goes on there.

Well the idea behind my decentralized militia network is that its very easy to mount a defence and very hard to mount an offence.

You need every militia leader to mount an offence to attack another country, which would expose them as powerhungy and warmongering tyrants, so they would quickly become replaced or reorganized.

But if a real threat is coming then its easy to organize them, since they all have a common goal to defend their land, so they would form a temporary coalition which would be disbanded after the war. And because it would be a defensive army , they could not threaten foreign countries with it.

Now the financing is easy, since all rich people in that land would have a good interest to protect their property, they would donate to the army to defeat the agressors, and every other person that cares about that land.

If 1 militia commits crimes agains humanity, then either those people could move, they would not be bounded to that region, or there is always a civil way of private court system to deal with, and the private court will always rule objectively, and the court orders will be enforced by the other militias too.

So we would have 2 critical networks, the army network and the court network, and whenever militia goes out of line, the hurt people can turn to the court, and the court will enforce its orders with the other non-corrupted militias.

If everything is done well, the majority of the things will never be corrupt, and the majority will always clean out the corrupt minority.
4273  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Investor from the Fiat-area is looking for bitcoin investment tips on: April 03, 2015, 01:57:00 PM
I can imagine your thread is real since all the latest news out there showing that established organizations try to jump on the topic.

If you check the price development of bitcoins then you would need to have trading skills since you most probably wont get the permission to hold them with these fluctuations.

If youre interested in interesting products or ideas then check the security subforums. Get ideas from there. The blockchain can be widely used. But beware of investments because practically every investment publicly advertised turn out the bad way.

Beware of mining hardware. You need a calculator that includes the rising difficulty in order to make a real decision. Then add the uncertainty of the hardware developer delivering early enough or at all.

Though there are offers out there for hosting with very low electricity prices you might consider when going that route. You might check out http://bit.ly/1uM1Tw9.

The best route for an investment firm would be to have a promising business idea based on the blockchain.
4274  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: April 03, 2015, 11:52:36 AM
Lower leverage.... Trade don't gamble
I agree.

I also hate when someone ask a good thing to put their btc into, people tell them to gamble, which is stupid..

gambling is leverage trading, not bitcoin itself/

Saying that gambling is leverage trading let it sound like you could predict anything there so that you can get an advantage. Though thats not correct for all those dicegames. With real trading you can predict in some way. So no, i would not say that gambling is something like trading. You dont even have a lever.
4275  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Decentralized Army on: April 03, 2015, 11:48:43 AM
When speaking about replacing... what about all the big war things that only a small army cant afford. Plane carrier, stealth bomber, development of these tools.

I think militias has to constantly check things out on other militias in order to prevent that an area, where maybe only rasist or a sect live, have their own legal army and make their own ruling because of that. When the people living their think its fine and good to kill other races then this army is bound to those local rules. Though rules should be defined on a larger scale.

At least some rule would have to be there that militias has to check out the other militias in order to see what goes on there.
4276  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Decentralized Army on: April 03, 2015, 10:59:35 AM

ok yeah that makes sense, like a distributed network of small size army tribes?  how do you stop 1 group not getting too big?

The others will stop them. There will be constant communication between each garrison, if the commander of 1 garrison starts to recruit more people than allowed or buy more weapons, with the mission to conquer the planet, then either the local people would change the leader of that garrison to a better one, or the other garrisons would come in and forcibly replace that commander, if it is found that he abused his power.

A private court system would decide on these problems and instead a big government enforcing the courts, small cooperative militias like this would enforce court orders, so if the garrison commander that abused his power is found guilty and must leave office, then the other commanders could enforce this court order with all means necessary.

Wouldnt that court and the overview be again a risk? And if people could change a provate armies boss then this army is useless since they need the power to stop an uproar.

And people fighting an army to change the boss? They would need weapons for that and they would face an army then. Of course, if other militias work, then they could help. Question is if enough people would stand up since i believe the majority would stay in fear.

Maybe the key would be the militias controlling each other. But even then... factions might build with generals who think different or follow a leader that promises them things. Even without an instant war, things could slowly turn bad. You cant intervene because the problems arent big enough but at one point the factions could turn violent and they might be so big that its a real problem then.
4277  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Electrum - Lightweight Bitcoin Client on: April 02, 2015, 09:22:58 PM
Either python? is too slow or the code for python is not optimized.

something has to be optimized and I am working on it.

I hope theres a solution soon since now i wait for my wallet to let me do something, my notebook is working hard, though the process only is using 13% of my 8 cores. The problem is... i got some bitcoins and i cant get them out anymore because electrum is working all the time, showing me a blank window. Ill try creating a new wallet with the brain sentence. Maybe a fresh wallet is a bit faster so that i can get my funds out at least?

Edit: It seems thats a workaround for now.

I finished that optimization. It is already on github, and will ship with version 2.1.

Great news. Smiley

Ill let you know how it works once i can test it. A fast electrum really would be a help.
4278  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 02, 2015, 08:59:03 PM
By the way (as someone who has already lent out money at Bitfinex at rates far beyond 1%/day historically): Even if you manage to get a 0.6%/day 30d loan out there, don't expect it to last any substantial amount of time.

Too bad, i really thought it might be worth to check out if its worth to wait for these things happen. I mean normal traders most probably dont check the swap rates they got when margin trade.

I guess the best thing is still to relatively fast get your money lent out for 2 days for a rate before FRR-Wall.
4279  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 02, 2015, 08:49:54 PM
Of course it happens as I have shown with the screenshot. It's happening right now and nobody cares. You can also look it up on bfxdata. Seemingly because suddenly people (god knows why, it never happened before 1.5 months ago) order large amounts of money (6 figures+ multiple times) and don't include "variable" rate" to be taken which cleans the order book behind the FRR but leaves it intact. Tunneling like that should not be possible, it messes up the order book, ruins any predictability and further kills liquidity.

I checked bfxdata but they only have a volume weighted graph. But even this shows rates of 0.22. Impossible with FFR before it. So either FRR wall vanished because of some bug for some time or the FRR rate was calculated wrong for a moment. Maybe FRR showed up on the wrong side of orderbook only. Smiley

I dont understand what you mean with tunneling. Either FRR is eaten up by 6 figues + or not. But i dont see how it could get tunneled normally.
4280  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [OFFICIAL]Bitfinex.com first Bitcoin P2P lending platform for leverage trading on: April 02, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
People can either take a fixed rate or flexible rate. FRR historically has spiked due to manipulation and wiped out a lot of positions, hence the setting to allow traders to either consider FRR and take the risk of a spike or not.
FRR has spiked? lol. It went from 0.02 to 0.1 Sry, but that is the same crap that was said last time when I posted about this issue. How it could potentially be clever to reserve at 0.7 (who the fuck believes this?) because FRR would run out... Of course it didn't, there is still plenty and it's still at 0.1 when the spikes regularly go to 0.7 and beyond. When was the last time FRR was over 0.2? Ages ago and exactly because shit like this is allowed. If these guys want to take out six figure offers force them to take from FRR or calculate FRR dynamically but fix it once the offer is put on the book. What's happening is seriously ridiculous and absolutely in line with all the bullshit that has happened on the swap market before.

Instead of having a liquid market that reacts dynamically to increasing supply and demand (low demand it's at 0.02-0.05, high demand it goes to maybe 0.3) we always get shit like this just because fucking BFX is too stupid to remove the fucking FRR. I'm so fed up with this shit.

I dont have a problem with FRR. Swaps on FRR are still only people that dont want to manually put in their loan offers. FRR doesnt push the price forward or backwards. Its the peoples money on there and their money would be elsewhere in the orderbook without FRR. So taking it out only would lead to offers done manually. It wouldnt help you to make great swap deals i think.

But what do you write about taking offers behind FRR? Is that happening or not? It shouldnt be possible if FRR is there. So were offers taken that were behind FRR?

I noticed that somethings not correct with FRR too. I mean it sometimes shows up on the left side of orderbook with values that dont match or dont make sense to show up there. I wonder if FRR is calculated in a buggy way. But i surely would like to have given some swaps at 0.6% per day for 30 days... oO
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