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4261  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TES] ϟ ϟ The Tesla ϟ ϟ OFFICIAL ϟϟ Bittrex - Cryptsy - Cryptopia on: August 07, 2015, 06:13:51 PM
You need luck and also you should not split the coin!  Tongue Because all of you small stake take tiem to stake.  Wink

uhm. but if i split them i have more oportunities to stake at least one right? or do i stake same number of coins having 1 (40Kcoins) than 20 (2k coins) "blocks of coins" for example?

Overall the % of stake is the same. You'll just get more smaller stakes. Like both a 2000 and 6000 will stake. My 2000 gave me 5 coins~ after a week and my 6000 gave me 15 coins.
4262  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer S6 speculation on: August 07, 2015, 05:54:27 PM
They're skipping a RACK MOUNT generation, to be picky.

 9-)


Dunno, they didn't say they would not release a rack mount, they just said they were releasing the smaller factor next. It was supposed to be last month but now they said they would announce at some point within a month or two.
4263  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH on: August 07, 2015, 05:51:15 PM
Where do the specs cited come from? That's not what one would expect from Bitmain. Unless they are giving up their small form factor for more big mine oriented ASIC. That would further favor hash centralization however...
4264  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TES] ϟ ϟ The Tesla ϟ ϟ OFFICIAL ϟϟ Bittrex - Cryptsy - Cryptopia on: August 07, 2015, 05:45:38 PM
You need luck and also you should not split the coin!  Tongue Because all of you small stake take tiem to stake.  Wink

And i believe the minimum to stake is 1k anyways, so once they get split down to 500~ they won't stake anymore?
4265  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is it worth it ? on: August 07, 2015, 02:36:31 PM
Ah right ok I get you ...

I will wait around and see when and if the S7 gets released and possibly go for one of them unless I pick up an S5 dirt cheap ...

Yeh the electric cost is the worse .. but I think i am on a pretty good rate within the UK ... I cannot seem to find anything under 0.10 per kWh

The PSU I have at present is a Corsair CX 750

Cheers.


I see, but there is no point in comparing your electricity cost to the rest of the UK... You're actually competing with maybe something like 90% of the miners running on 0.03-0.05usd/kwh. With your 0.15usd/kwh you'd be better off using those 0.08usd/kwh datacenter or trustable cloud which varies. But even using overpriced hosting at 0.11usd/kwh would be better for you.

Alot of people recommend not mining if you're at 0.1+ and that you are, it seem. So regardless what you get, profiting for you will be hard. Good luck nevertheless!
4266  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: New to Mining hardware and i got some questions on: August 07, 2015, 02:27:54 PM
Hello everyone

recently i moved to a new place for work and i happen to get an opportunity for a free electric source and i was wondering if that would be great to start bitcoin/altcoins mining with asic hardware i never really had any and i have some questions
(note i can not get big and heavy asics because of moving alot i would like to small/light asics and no problem in having alot of them but not the heavy ones )

1- What is the best companies that sell asics with good user friendly experiance

2- What is the best hash/watt items that is out there now

3- is it hard to setup them ? i have alot of computer hardware experiance

4-how about shipping and its fees ( i live in africa )


I don't know how prohibitive shipping would be, but for the best Hash per Watt and smaller units, there ain't alot of choice. I'd go with used Antminer S3. There are very few manufacturer that still produce ASICs.

At the moment Bitmain. Spoodoolies make some ASIC too but with some bigger form factor and louder units, Avalon too, but the Avalon4.1 are kind of expensive and rare. If you have to pay significant shipping cost per unit, you'll probably have to go with the more recent unit, the Antminer S5, but the GH/$ is more expensive. The Antminer S5 is no longer on production so you will have trouble finding unused units. Even Bitmain now sell their used S5 only.

IT also depend on how much noise you can afford to have.
4267  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Is it worth it ? on: August 07, 2015, 01:19:26 AM
S1 is 180GH/s at 360W.

Expects to earn 31p a day.  Will cost you 99p a day to operate.

Right now, the most efficient miner out there is the S5 from Bitmain.  In your case, the numbers are that it would expect to make £1.97 a day and cost you £1.62 a day to run.... so if you happened to get an S5 for free, you'd make a net profit of 35p a day.

Thanks for that - one quick question .. If I were to have the S5 from Bitmain, would the one 750W Corsair PSU I have power it ?

Cheers.


yes but close to the edge.

no overclock room.

and you may need to down clock from freq 350/1150gh

to freq 300/1000gh or freq 325/1075gh

Thanks - how would I know if I did indeed need to down clock it ? What would be the obvious signs .. HW failures ?

I would look at upgrade PSU anyway I think but if it could run it until that time then that would be great ...

Now the hunt begins to find an S5 at a good price in the UK ..

Cheers.


No, it really depend on the efficiency of the PSU. A EVGA G2 would do it no problem. Also the cap are high quality so you could run them at near max load for a long time without any problems, so at a small efficiency loss you would still have some headroom.
But for example i have 2 undervolted S1, they take 150~ watt each, on a 94% PSU they take 160watt each~ or so. On a 430w Thermaltake with no rating they drain 410watt or 205 watt each +10watt for the psu fan.

So it depend on the efficiency rating of your 750w psu.

And seeing the marginal daily gain of the S5, i would recommend you just wait and see if the S7 comming out SoonTM will be ROI-able, because at your very high electricity cost you won't ROI it. To be honest your electricity cost is so high it would be much better for you to have it hosted.
4268  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Antminer S6 speculation on: August 07, 2015, 01:10:20 AM
S6 has been mentioned (I believe by Dogie, but might have been by BitMain directly) that it's not going to happen, will be "skipped".

 It's the S7 we're all waiting on now....


Is it true or are you trolling us? Can you show me source of this? I can't believe they skip a generation for whatever reason.

They're not skipping a generation, the even number generation is a Rack mount unit, the uneven number is a small form factor. The next unit coming will be s7 as reported by several users of reply from Bitmain.
4269  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH on: August 06, 2015, 09:52:19 PM
Both  of these "used" S5s are running a bit odd - the "bottom of status screen" hash board runs 6-8 degrees cooler than the other of the same unit or than any of the other hash boards in ANY of my S5s when running at the same clock speed, the "top" board is kinda mid-range on temp compared to the boards in all my other S5s.
 Temps are running about the same on the S5 with the straight-blade heatsinks and the one with the older-style curved ones and they're both meeting specs easily though, once I got a couple configuration quibbles fixed (MY glitches, not theirs).


 I got a call from FEDEX the day after they shipped about some sort of customs issue, but they apparently resolved it before I noticed the call - by the time I noticed I HAD a voicemail about the issue asking me to call them back, tracking on their web site showed that the units were already in Indianapolis (I think they have a major hub there, for similar reasons to why UPS put THEIR primary air shipping hub at Weir Cook / Indianapolis International a couple decades back).

Gotcha. Isint it normal for them to be 6~degree apart? I never found out why, maybe its the positing of the chips. (Since it basically just report the temp of itself, not necessarily the actual temp of the chips on the board) depending on where the chip is placed, the temp is more or less truly representative.

So you say the 2 new old units are odd. Do you mean more so than other S5's?
4270  Economy / Services / Re: [BIT-X.com] OPEN SPOTS Earn Bitcoins by Posting | Signature Campaign on: August 06, 2015, 09:25:27 PM
My payment's over 24 hours late, however the weirder thing is that there's a 10,000 satoshi deposit on my bit-x account from 3 days ago. Has anyone had anything similar? I haven't been paying attention to any recent spamming.

I have not received differed deposits of any kind. Just the finite value being off from what the bot reported. I sent a PM, marco will probably reply when he have the time.
4271  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [2900 TH] Kano CKPool (kano.is) from the cgminer devs [0.9% PPLNS] on: August 06, 2015, 09:04:43 PM
Edit: Nevermind for me, i found out how unsecure PW saved in chrome are and retrieved it there, i will change my email to gmail.
@Kano

So there was an issue with password recovery with Hotmail. Thus you now reject Hotmail as new registering email. But my e-mail is already set to an @hotmail.com. Right now i'm asking for a recovery password and i am not receiving the recovery e-mail. (After a few minutes)

So what would the procedure be for password recovery for people who previously registered with Hotmail?
4272  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: NSA KNOWS on: August 06, 2015, 06:44:41 PM
Why don't you consider being a boring person by doing silly stuff like obeying the law.

Because laws are so insanely broad and ambiguous that "obeying the law" is slowly becoming as safe as not doing it. Eg. you really don't want to be caught on cam while doing a bitcoin transaction because money laundering.

That's a bit of an exaggeration but when i think about it, its sadly not much of one. The law is open to interpretation, there is a huge grey zone where you can break the law even if you're not, or not be breaking the law even if you are, or should be.

I'm just thankful i'm not in the US, where bitcoin is in a negative legal status. It's much better in Canada.

4273  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH on: August 06, 2015, 06:34:18 PM
Just got my pair of the used S5s - one of them has STRAIGHT BLADE heatsinks in it, the other the usual curved.

 I wonder it Bitmain finally gave up on that curved sillyness....


 Both of them were pretty clean, the shipment packaging was a little marginal but it worked, a couple of the HS blades were bent up on the bottom but that's pretty common and easy to fix....


I see, they work well performance wise? I am supposed to received mine tomorrow. For some reason, having to pay import tax for UPS is an "unexpected issue" and that delayed it to tomorrow or something. Well whatever.

I might try your pull the pin trick to get 100% fan at all time, maybe not, the melting issue is supposed to have been fixed and there's manual user control fan firmware out now. I will of course test that and also cut its internet to see how it reacts.

If i can keep the fan speed dialed down just a bit and it doesnt wind down when it lose connection, i might go for it.
4274  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: PCI-e replacement cables for modular EVGA PSU series? on: August 06, 2015, 06:22:18 PM
I have had the same connector melting problem with my zeusminer Thunder x3's But only when i overclock.

Right now i'm using with 8awg car audio amplifier wiring going from the boards to a pair of car battery terminals that i have all the power supply outputs dumped to.
Its not pretty, but its cheap and it works.

The EVGA 1300 PSU is kindof a tight fit in a zeusminer, wires get pretty close to the fan. they grazed the fan on a few occasions I had to zip tie em away and I'm still not comfortable with it, i switched the direction of the fans so i wouldn't worry about the fans sucking the wires into them. Did you have any problems with that?

If you dont mind my asking,

How did you get that cointerrra power supply to fit so nicely? Can you post more pics of that? Does it overclock well? whats the ceiling on clock speed with that PSU

Ugly, cheap and effective is good in my book. Go Pragmatism.

For fitting the PSU, that's really easy. I didn't fit it in xD. The psu is resting next to the Zeus, so that void any stuffing and cramming issues one might have. The stock cables from EVGA are very much quite long, and so i have a lot of range to where i can put the psu. On top, sides, behind, etc. Prior to changing the cable, i had terminal melting at "stock speed" 328mhz after about 1 year of use.

The server PSU are rated 1100 so i could push them if i wanted, but the fan produce a high pitch noise and is unbearable when the load is too high. At the moment i found the lowest freq that doesnt generate HW, i litterally went from non stop HW at 275mhz to 276mhz which i get 0 HW (well, beyond the regular 6-7%~ rareish HW that you get overall). I lose 4mh over it and it think its a good sacrifice. The PSU go down to 820watt usage with 94% eff~. At which there is a high pitch noise but the dB is low enough that my ear stops bleeding.

And it doesnt really fit in in lenght, but for thermal dissipation i still slided in it in the middle, there's some holes in the bottom of the asic, i ran some long tie wrap to hold it in position, put some foam underneath it to point the exhaust at the middle fan, so the heat it generates is expelled outside directly. Added some tape because nothing is complete without ducttape. That way it doesnt budge as much.

And thats it...

Eventually i'm going to sell and get rid of all of this, because i am going to evolve my mini farm into something mostly quiet. I might keep the PSU, as if they are run under optimal load (or anything under 700watt) i can't really hear them. We'll see as the Thunder X3 obviously blow over the noise of everything else.
4275  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Antminer S6 and S7 Speculation on: August 06, 2015, 06:08:13 PM
I'd tend to agree that the noticeable drop was probably related to Bitmain - but I'd guess it was "pulled the August 5 batch to ship it" machines, not pull machines that aren't due to ship for almost a week, given the actual timing and the timing on WHEN they shipped that "August 5" batch.

I would doubt so. I received the tracking number and confirmed the package was in UPS hands at the same time it spiked. I do not think the machine can teleport from the mine, while in use, to packaged and in UPS's hands within minutes.

But it is possible after making room in the storage, they went back to their mine and started unplugging more stuff and then plugging new stuff, refilling the storage with more S5s.
4276  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: GreenAddress: open source multisig wallet service on: August 06, 2015, 05:42:53 AM
I have the desktop chrome plugin version...
It's the third time this week i come to try to access my wallet and i can't login. Is there a way to to get a desktop version that can login even when the website is down? Otherwise i don't get what's the point of a desktop/web wallet hybrid with better security if you can't access your BTC half the time?
4277  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: PCI-e replacement cables for modular EVGA PSU series? on: August 06, 2015, 03:16:59 AM
I also tried with few different pliers but it didn't work.I never dared to connect those.When I first time used that crimping tool I used maybe an hour to make just one 6-pin pci-e connector.Now it goes in a moment.Or maybe those 4 six-packs of beer which I had drunk had something to do with it...

Haha, the cables i made were much simpler than pci-e, they were single cable ring terminal for the thunder x3. I replaced all the confusing cables by a single 14AWG stranded cable.

Its good cable but horrible crimp. I was able to pull fairly strong without the crimp budging so i think they will do until i get rid of the ASIC or replace the terminals.
First crimp ever;


I then covered the +12v with red tape but yeah. xD
4278  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Bitmain Antminer S6 and S7 Speculation on: August 06, 2015, 02:42:30 AM
Noon yesterday net hashrate was 413 and today it's 296.  Is the big swing from Bitmain, KnC or the hot weather?

Hmm luck affect the guessed network hashrate too, i wouldn't go saying Bitmain went and offlined 100PH in a shot. It's not 296 today either, look more like 360. But its possible they onlined a bunch of hardware yesterday and offlined a batch of S5 today to be ready to ship for the 14th+ august date.

I find the up spike and then down spike exactly syncing with bitmain's S5 event days pretty funny. And maybe suggest that Bitmain is truly doing what everything think they are doing...

Price: 440.0 USD(1.55783314฿)  Stock: 177

Slowly getting to 0.

They can replenish the stock at anytime, too.

Read your post, went back and looked at the graph (https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=30days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=) and see I was wrong.  Looked at my daily notes and see I must have misread the chart, having the wrong info recorded.  The chart indicates it dropped to 327.

Indeed, though the values are always guesstimates from the network blockrate. Nevertheless it still looks like the rate dropped sharply exactly at the time where they shipped me a batch, as if they offlined a batch after finishing preparing and offloading the last batch.

Also i use this website to track the hashrate and diff; https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty
4279  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: PCI-e replacement cables for modular EVGA PSU series? on: August 06, 2015, 02:40:00 AM
I bought these http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Insulated-Terminals-Ratchet-Crimping-Plier-AWG-22-10-0-5-6-0mm-HS-30J-/111411896671?hash=item19f0aaa15f they look very similar so i hope they will work for this. I bought these one because initially i only needed them for crimping insulated terminals.

Those are great link, i wonder if i could find a supplier in Canada. Doing this sound like fun, but it look like the materials cost for certain cable would be the same cost as buying them made. I'll keep an eye out! Smiley



I have crimping tool which looks just like that.I just paid a lot more of it.But it has been very useful, I've crimped tens or maybe hundreds cables wit it.Not only for miners but other electronic hobby projects.It's cool to have very professional look like cabling  Smiley.

Ah well i'm glad you say so. Usually that thing on other websites, amazon and most listings, it goes for 30USD so i was happy to find it for 13USD~
In a pinch before i used regular pliers and a hammer and err. Even tho it "works" i wouldn't trust those ending for long xD
4280  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY CPIG BTCLend xpyerr.ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: August 06, 2015, 12:58:13 AM
Coinstand 2.0 is coming, millions of products. Paytards in ecstasy.

https://i.imgur.com/cMyVF91.jpg

Can the handpicked minions get $20 per coin? I didn't receive my invite last time, I'm sure they'll fix that this time around.

......Right. If only my thousands of $ "worth" of XPY wasnt actually worth a total of 2 dollars, then maybe i could buy some stuff on Coinstand 2.0 xD
Hah well, maybe the XPY will eventually one day reach some sort of value where the XPY i have will be worth recovering my password over.
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