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4281  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On on: February 25, 2020, 03:41:03 PM
I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.
If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.
Dude... Wilder lost his title, and the closest opportunity to getting it back is via this rematch. No sane boxer would miss this kind of opportunity, no matter how outclassed they were.

If Wilder loses again in the 3rd fight, I don't think he would wear the "champ" belt for quite some time since Fury would move to the next opponent.
4282  Economy / Economics / Re: In the past where taxes were honoured ~ on: February 25, 2020, 03:31:55 PM
if we trace indeed between zakat and tax have the same goal, namely to prosper others, and help our brothers in need. it's just that the system used is different, taxes are coercive, if they don't obey they get a fine, but if taxes grow from the heart
Well, in history, people get slaughtered because they refuse to pay Zakat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakat#Failure_to_pay

It's obligatory by the way,

Quote
Islam has five primary obligations, or pillars of faith, that each Muslim must fulfill in his or her lifetime. They are as follows:

...

Zakat, almsgiving, is the third pillar. Social responsibility is considered part of one's service to God; the obligatory act of zakat enshrines this duty. Zakat prescribes payment of fixed proportions of a Muslim's possessions for the welfare of the entire community and in particular for its neediest members. It is equal to 2.5 percent of an individual's total net worth, excluding obligations and family expenses.
Source: https://www.saudiembassy.net/five-pillars-islam

Kindly go to Politics and Society board if you want to discuss more about this.



There are two sides of human, x and y, push and pull, good and evil, yin and yang, etc., you cannot embrace one side and completely neglect the other. Some people want to feel good/right by voluntarily paying taxes, however, some will not.
4283  Economy / Economics / Re: Amazon to accept bitcoin payments directly... the real breakthrough!? on: February 25, 2020, 02:30:51 PM
This article might be interesting for you. https://www.investopedia.com/articles/company-insights/090216/when-will-amazon-accept-bitcoin-amzn.asp

tl;dr
You could still purchase Amazon gift cards with Bitcoin and use it. So it's pretty much buying with Bitcoin. Since there are companies that were already doing this, I don't think reinventing the wheel would be a breakthrough.

Surely this would be the moment which would solidify mass adoption of the currency?
Let's put the browser extension aside, Amazon accepting Bitcoin would be good for the ecosystem. But, IMO we need more than that. We need everyone, and every major retailer to accept Bitcoin.
4284  Economy / Economics / Re: How to stop the world recession that is soon coming. on: February 24, 2020, 04:28:28 PM
There are many ways to deal with a recession. One of them is by saving money when the economy was good and then spend it in the recession (this is Austrian if I'm not mistaken). Or by using loose government policies (Keynesian).

You might find this article interesting since it is from Friedman's point of view. https://fee.org/articles/the-great-depression-according-to-milton-friedman/
4285  Economy / Economics / Re: In the past where taxes were honoured ~ on: February 24, 2020, 04:08:00 PM
I never heard of it, but my guess is it's a voluntaryism utopia. Or if it's real, then it must involve some God/belief. I think the old Jewish and Arab communities have tithe or zakat. These kinds of donations could be considered as tax.
4286  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering Contests on: February 24, 2020, 03:35:49 PM
I once participated in this kind of contest.
I found that the safest strategy is to bet with the smallest possible (minimum bet) and the highest winning chance for the newbies to feel the competition. However, depending on the number of participants (and how rich they are), you might not move up that fast on the leaderboard. You could raise your bet if you feel comfortable already. Then, do the auto-bet non-stop.

Disclaimer: even with the highest winning chance, you could lose badly if you wager a high amount of money. This is not gambling advice, just for the sake of discussion.

You could try this method on Wolf race *paid advertisement detected* Grin
4287  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Online gambling or Casino gambling? on: February 24, 2020, 08:24:30 AM
Dude, it's like going to the cinema or watching the NetFlix. It's a different experience. Also, it depends on where you live since gambling in land casinos is very expensive if you include transportations, meals, drinks (and perhaps a hooker and a hotel).

Cheap people like me prefer online gambling, accompanied by cans of beers.
4288  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On on: February 24, 2020, 08:06:27 AM
Damn, I missed this match! I've just come back from Youtube and shocked about how Fury outclassed Wilder that much. I've predicted Fury would win, but not dominating like this.

I think Fury got a bit lucky with the "AJ-like damage" received by Wilder with that right hook. Wilder just couldn't recover after that blow. However, I'll still bet Fury wins 9 out of 10 (1 draw) versus Wilder.
4289  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't be a hypocrite and admit that you are a gambler on: February 24, 2020, 07:44:54 AM
hold on dude, I really surprised to see u your thread here. I wanna says that life is gamble too. Full of surprise and no one knows the result even sometimes history repeat itself. Even when i trade sometimes TA doesn't work at all, so i try to see bigger timeframe and still felt like gambling for me.. Grin Grin
My apologies mate, I've been busy lately.

Well, you could still use TA as one of many analyses in your investment decision. Many people made mistakes because they use TA as a sole technique to predict the market. But still, even if you use many techniques, then you are still "gambling" since no methods are 100% valid.


Sorry, I think it is not true to assume "life is a gamble". We know that every religion provides a guide to living properly in the world. And all know that the result of our life will be divided into 2 ending, to "heaven or hell". It is a bit different than the fundamental of gambling, so I think it doesn't include the kinds of gambling because of having a clear direction.
Nope, religions provide not only good/moral materials but also evil/immoral materials in its guidance. What people don't understand is, they got their morality from parenting and society, not from old books.

Nobody has seen heaven or hell, why you assume it's real? Not just some political agenda to control people?

Just food for thought, lol. If you are interested in this kind of stuff, better jump to politics and society board Grin


I'm locking this thread. Sorry for the delay.
4290  Economy / Economics / Re: GOLD and BITCOIN: What is their similarities? on: February 20, 2020, 05:43:33 PM
Show me what you know.
Lmao, asking something without manner...

I think the most persuasive argument is both have a limited supply. One could argue that altcoins made the supply unlimited. However, that's also applicable to gold. The gold supply is unlimited if you include all planets in the universe.
4291  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't be a hypocrite and admit that you are a gambler on: February 20, 2020, 05:09:46 PM
This is quite an interesting argument.  It is indeed debatable and I guess there is no right or wrong on this one because it is all about perspective.  Here is one article to refute that belief.

What's the difference between a risk and a gamble?

In this article, it differentiates between a gamble and a calculated risk, thus making some valid point against OP's point.  This is also an interesting read because it clearly differentiates gambling and the daily decision of people taking and was presented as calculated risk.
Dude, read the purpose of this thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226378.msg53863341#msg53863341

The problem with calculated risk is, you couldn't control the surprise or unknown risk. It's like flying on an airplane. Everyone makes sure that all of the procedures were met, and everything is under control, yet every time you take a flight, you gamble with 1 in 205,552 probability of losing.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/how-safe-is-flying-here-s-what-the-statistics-say

I'll lock this thread in 24 hours since I've satisfied with the answers Wink
4292  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you share at least one gambler who have become rich in gambling? on: February 20, 2020, 04:53:58 PM
Billy Walters
Dude, this guy is in prison for insider trading. Also, in sports betting, he could bribe opposition to intentionally losing the game.

I'm more convinced with gamblers who play in skill games, like poker, blackjack, etc., that utilize card counting method. They could become rich before getting blacklisted to enter casinos.



And for the lottery, 70% went bankrupt in just a few years.
https://www.nefe.org/press-room/news/2018/research-statistic-on-financial-windfalls-and-bankruptcy.aspx

If they (the winners) don't know how to make money in the first place, they won't be able to sustain their spending. Wealth is built on the continuous stream of cash inflow.
4293  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔶 [ANN][XRC] Bitcoin Rhodium — 2,1 juta XRC. PoW. Hadiah triwulanan on: February 20, 2020, 04:31:30 PM
yup gan, kalo dari persepsi gue kenapa 50% dimining di block1 pastinya developer $XRC pasti punya pertimbangan jika nantinya benar2 diadopsi ke freemarketone / sebelum direlease nantinya koin $XRC ini tidak terjadi kelangkaan dan memastikan sirkulasi dan harga tetap stabil.

yang penting gue sebar portofolio ke coin2 yang menjanjikan dan masih murah2 nggak fokus ke satu koin saja buat investasi jangka panjang
Ya terserah agan toh pilihan investasi itu kembali ke diri masing-masing, ane tidak mempersoalkan hal itu.
Ane hanya mempersoalkan cara marketing yang kurang etis. Seharusnya disebutkan 50% dari total koin akan digunakan sebagai reserve untuk berbagai kegiatan, airdrop, dll.
Ane tanya dijawab berbelit-belit seakan-akan menutupi hal ini. Itu doangs.

Spesifikasi koin:
Total supply: 2,100,000 XRC
Premine block #1: 1,050,000 XRC
Block reward mulai block #2: 2.5 XRC
4294  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔶 [ANN][XRC] Bitcoin Rhodium — 2,1 juta XRC. PoW. Hadiah triwulanan on: February 19, 2020, 11:17:45 AM
^ Ah yang bener gan, berarti agan tahu kalau dalam total supply yang sebesar 2,100,000 koin, 50%-nya sudah di mining pada block #1?

Output Total: 1,050,000 XRC
https://explorer.bitcoinrh.org/xrc/Block/785793c0c87e83ed9cf3851359210c03123aa6a43d2d0a96ee000c4373e24274

Baru kemudian di block #2 outputnya berubah jadi 2.5 XRC
https://explorer.bitcoinrh.org/xrc/Block/47839194529f578854645641c8dddb3500fff694f1b7d7c1b2fbdc8b7618acf2

Auto sultan itu yang bikin genesis. Semoga ini bukan karya anak bangsa Cheesy
4295  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Illegal gambling in Asian football increased partly because of crypto? on: February 19, 2020, 08:52:49 AM
Yep, crypto, especially Bitcoin, is neutral money, and you can do good things or bad things with it. It's up to the users what they will do with their money. It's not someone else's business.

However, for the so-called "privacy coin," that's entirely different because it has a built-in tumbler to anonymize its transactions; in other words, it's no longer neutral. This situation is terrible because governments now have reasons to crack down the crypto industry.

Anyway, CMIIW, they could still play sports betting legally on licensed sites, such as bet365. https://onlinebettingcodes.co.uk/bet365-legal-countries/

I hope they will accept Bitcoin payment directly (without Neteller).
4296  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔶 [ANN][XRC] Bitcoin Rhodium — 2,1 juta XRC. PoW. Hadiah triwulanan on: February 19, 2020, 06:45:44 AM
Reward atau hadiah hampir semua crypto ada cuma caranya masing2, Bitcoin saja banyak fork-nya dan dapat BCH, BSV, dll
Komodo, IOST, punya cara sendiri daily/monthly/yearly reward

Kalo BitcoinRhodium rewardnya diambil dari dari coin airdrop yang tidak terdistribusi.
Ente ngomong apa sih gan? paham enggak? Kalau gak paham tanya dev-nya.
Koin airdrop yang tidak terdistribusi asalnya dari mana? Premine atau donasi atau "pajak?"

Kalau gak ngerti ga usah reply ane daripada ane semprot.
4297  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another STO failed! STO won't work anymore. on: February 19, 2020, 03:00:01 AM
Yes, I mistyped, but that is not Liquid, it's Liqio exchange. You can see their bounty campaign thread from this link, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210813.0

To be honest, I have seen my proper STO project, like Mobu, Stellero, Bitbond, Hyghtech and so on, and no one could make a success! So, I am totally off from STO projects.
I see, Liqio Exchange...

To be honest, I doubt it was a regulated STO. If it's not regulated than it is just like a common ICO/IEO.

What if, in reality, only a small percentage of ICO/IEO that were able to reach softcap in 2017, and the rest were fake? They could say that they successfully reach hardcap even if in reality no one buy the token. This kind of thing need to be properly audited.

IMO it would be better if hunters search for community coins instead of these fund raising schemes.
4298  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Another STO failed! STO won't work anymore. on: February 18, 2020, 01:45:34 PM
Where's the link? I couldn't find anything about Liquio Exchange.. maybe you mistyped "Liquid?"
A proper STO should come with legal prospectus and stuff since securities are regulated.

I think you mean IEO/ICO?
4299  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: 🔶 [ANN][XRC] Bitcoin Rhodium — 2,1 juta XRC. PoW. Hadiah triwulanan on: February 18, 2020, 01:15:41 PM
Ini kayanya PoW, tapi kok ada hadiah triwulanan? Dari mana koin untuk hadiah tsb? Apakah dari premine? Sudah dipremine berapa juta dari 2017?
Kalau tidak pakai premine, apakah pakai "pajak" alias devfee kah kayak BCH (lagi hot)?

Sebelum ini terjawab, sebaiknya hati-hati saja gaes. #gamble responsibly
4300  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion & Betting] Eurovision Song Contest 2020 on: February 18, 2020, 12:58:24 PM
I couldn't open Fai Rumore, anyone experiencing this issue? Anyway, I found this video just in case the previous one stops working
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPv9ZPXmFWU

After listening to the updated songs list, I'd still pick these two songs:

My current basket, "Fai rumore & Shaj."

Here is the live performance for Shaj's lovers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CznVbKqA1Q

Very beautiful songs, I hope one of them would win. I couldn't understand a word, and yet I felt the songs resonated with my heart. lmao
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