BitCash tests new lows then breaks down
Well, no. 'New lows' for Bitcoin Cash would be below $205. No wonder you don't like Bitcoin Cash - everything you 'know' about it is just plain false.
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Maybe I'm very optimistic, but I think bitcoin will again surprise those who today see the price of $ 500K as impossible.
$500,000/BTC is very close to the point where the market cap would equal the market cap of gold. At least in today's dollars. I really don't see any scenario where we could go higher in real terms. Of course, we could (probably will) have runaway inflation of the USD. Such could result in a dollar price above this, But I personally don't see a scenario where the totality of bitcoin becomes valued as higher than the totality of gold. I'd be happy to be surprised in this manner, however.
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my problem with selling bitcoin cash and moving it to BTC proper is taxes. IF I ignore it the IRS may call it a stock split...
Granted, we're in somewhat uncharted territory here, but I really don't see what the problem is. For 'merkans, probably the closest model is a corporate spinout - like when HP (HPQ) split into HP Inc and HPE. On the day of the split, the cost bases were adjusted (or determined). The value of HP Inc stock plus HPE stock at t=0+ was equal to the value of HPQ at t=0-. No taxable event, just an accounting adjustment to the cost basis for when you actually do sell. Of course, when you do sell, that is a taxable event. Did you expect otherwise? Of course the IRS is gonna get a share of your windfall. But using this model*, the tax would be owed upon the gain, which would be based upon the cost basis determined at the fork -- not on the entire value of what you are selling. *Again, this is likely uncharted territory. But this is a perfectly fine model. I can't imagine anything closer. Can you? It could be considered a like-kind exchange. If they did not go through fiat, certainly I would argue. But I thought the discussion was cashing out of Bitcoin Cash. Though...getting the additional coins in the first place...income? dividend? magic?
No - a spinout as described above. These things happen to stocks from time to time. Use that model. Hence, my HP example.
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If BCH succeeds in killing BTC, then: 1) There will be a general crash in crypto because it will be proved that they can be killed by such attacks; and 2) There are many better coins than BCH to play with.
Nonsense. If the market moves strongly to Bitcoin Cash over Bitcoin Core, then the narrative that 'Bitcoin Cash is The Real Bitcoin' will have been proven true. That is a BIG fucking IF , Jbreher. Hey, now. It's not my 'if' - it's coinosphere.tk's 'if'. I didn't set up the hypothetical. I was just fixing the conclusion.
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my problem with selling bitcoin cash and moving it to BTC proper is taxes. IF I ignore it the IRS may call it a stock split...
Granted, we're in somewhat uncharted territory here, but I really don't see what the problem is. For 'merkans, probably the closest model is a corporate spinout - like when HP (HPQ) split into HP Inc and HPE. On the day of the split, the cost bases were adjusted (or determined). The value of HP Inc stock plus HPE stock at t=0+ was equal to the value of HPQ at t=0-. No taxable event, just an accounting adjustment to the cost basis for when you actually do sell. Of course, when you do sell, that is a taxable event. Did you expect otherwise? Of course the IRS is gonna get a share of your windfall. But using this model*, the tax would be owed upon the gain, which would be based upon the cost basis determined at the fork -- not on the entire value of what you are selling. *Again, this is likely uncharted territory. But this is a perfectly fine model. I can't imagine anything closer. Can you?
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It might looks rosy on paper or sound theoretically nice but any of these currency coins (BTX, ...
The block size is 10 MB with segwit enabled from the beginning... I think you are confused. This is the thread where we discuss Bitcoin Cash. You might find more discussion relevant to your interests at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1883902.0
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If the market moves strongly to Bitcoin Cash over Bitcoin Core, then the narrative that 'Bitcoin Cash is The Real Bitcoin' will have been proven true.
I'm not proud to admit this, but I've done my fair share of illicit substances during my lifetime. It seems you have a line on some heretofore unknown consumable that I would love to sample ! These are some pretty freaking vivid fantasies you are having !!! Well, I recognize that I'm not looking very prescient on this so far. But there's enough bubbling in the plotline such that this may develop more as an epic rather than a short story.
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If BCH succeeds in killing BTC, then: 1) There will be a general crash in crypto because it will be proved that they can be killed by such attacks; and 2) There are many better coins than BCH to play with.
Nonsense. If the market moves strongly to Bitcoin Cash over Bitcoin Core, then the narrative that 'Bitcoin Cash is The Real Bitcoin' will have been proven true.
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I honestly don't know much about this coin. I'll just try to honestly represent what is available elsewhere on this coin. People are stating to inject this into discussions on Bitcoin Cash. This is a thread where such folk can be sent for more meaningful discussion on BitcoinGPU. Initial probe (?): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2046790.0Website: http://btcgpu.org/The website indicates that BitcoinGPU is to be forked from Bitcoin Genesis at the same block height that Bitcoin Cash forked (478558). I can not yet find evidence of a single mined block. I may be missing it. Please respond below if you detect a BitcoinGPU block at height 478559 or higher. <editeditedit> From downthread: The main website has now been updated http://btcgpu.org/ and the fork block has been set at #491407 (not vetted) </editeditedit> Website snapshot:
[About UAHF] [Source Code] [View Specs] [Download Binaries] <<logo>> An implementation of Bitcoin peer-to-peer electronic GOLD. Learn about Bitcoin GOLD What is Bitcoin GPU?Bitcoin GPU is a full node implementation of the Bitcoin protocol. GPU mining can protect Bitcoin Key value: Decentralize. ROADMAPOnce Bitcoin ABC forked Bitcoin, BTCGPU will be activated at the same time. It will be 1M+SW . when the block size is full again, will en-crease the block size to 2M,4M... When mining? When code development is done, starts to mining. The developer is working hard on it. It will support original smart contract. If needed, hard fork again to support original smart contract. not side chain smart contract. ICOBTCGPU will create 16000 blocks after forked from No 478558th Blcock. every block 12.5 BTG. it will be sold to ico investor. 1BTC=10BTG. this ICO will help BTG chain the longest Bitcoin blockchain. all rised BTC will used to hire developors, advertisement, etc. ROBUSTA fork of the stable Bitcoin Core, Bitcoin GPU aims to build on this base with improved code quality. Development follows a process of continuous integration, based on industry best-practices. SCALABLEBitcoin GPU implements the UAHF (User Activated Hard Fork) proposal to accept GPU mining. Miners can choose the size of the blocks they want to mine, with a default of 1 MB. It includes replay and wipeout protection. MODERNFor too long, Bitcoin has been held back by the centralize mining industry. GPU brings Bitcoin into the modern age with an exciting technological roadmap to enable massive on-chain scaling well into the future with decentalize. [About UAHF] [Source Code] [View Specs] [Download Binaries] [Additional Downloads: Ubuntu Packages]
note: all links tie right back to this very landing page.
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BitcoinGPU is a fork ... if it managed a value of $600 then it would instantly have a market cap greater than BCH due to all the existing coins already in the market
If, if, if. Yes. If BitcoinGPU was BitcoinCash, it would be third in market cap. But it ain't, so it ain't. Your 'ifs' are worthless. I don't know anything about this project it's just a good example of how a fork should happen
'Should'? According to who? You? You wanna invest in BitcoinGPU? I'm not gonna stop you. Knock yourself out. Not that I mean to denigrate BitcoinGPU. But a fork of Bitcoin with segwit, 1MB creeping upwards, and new PoW is nothing that interests me. OTOH, Bitcoin Cash is simply Bitcoin with the transaction production quota throttle backed out. Exactly what I was looking for in terms of the One True Bitcoin. As were enough others that it has a market cap in the billions scant weeks after launch.
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Bitcoin cash would have had a much more friendly welcome to the cryptospace if they chose to use a different PoW algorithm and possibly a higher value too
Nonsense. If that would have been Bitcoin Cash's direction, it would have been every bit as irrelevant as BitcoinGPU. A backwater crapcoin consigned at best to be someone's pump and dump bitch. The approach Bitcoin Cash took launched it as the third-largest crypto. A golden baby that is likely heir to Satoshi's throne.
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This mystery miner is supposedly Zhuo' Er Jiang from btc.top... He was supposed going to stop stave off the EDA bug event earlier ... but accidentally overslept ... lol .
FTFY
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Lombrozo should follow through and ignore Wu's lies, I have no idea how he could accomplish it though. Lomborzo could even 'kickstart/donate' to get funding and have enough within the hour. Everyone is tired of Bitmain.
Jeebus, that's infantile. Actually it is not at all and it shows how much you and the other centralisers misunderstand Bitcoin. Bitmain has become a big fat, plump, centralised target. It is logical, and cheaper, to attack them than out-compete them. So you believe Jihan is smarter, nimbler, and just plain better than any collection of your whining cohorts. Got it.
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I think some Bitcoin proponents have entered the 3rd phase of obsession:
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Lombrozo should follow through and ignore Wu's lies, I have no idea how he could accomplish it though. Lomborzo could even 'kickstart/donate' to get funding and have enough within the hour. Everyone is tired of Bitmain.
Jeebus, that's infantile. Instead of pooling money to tear down Bitman, why don't you pool your money to outcompete them? Add to Bitcoin's security, rather than destroy it.
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Not if you're a Puerto rico resident. Seriously.
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Personally, I'd just declare any earnings as long term capital gains, pay the 15%, and be done with it.
If you can prove you held longer than a year, sure, but if it has been activity (such as trading), it's short-term capital gains. Further, LT rates depend entirely on tax bracket with those in the highest brackets paying 20%, not 15%. ^Forgot about the 20% tax bracket. Anyway, it would be worth holding an extra year for LT rates. Hell, the value of BTC will probably increase during that time anyway. Yep, if the amount you take out plus your income is over $38k you have to pay 20% on long term capital gains. Not if you are a Puerto Rico resident.
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False comparison. On a human scale, bitcoin transactions post in about the same time as credit card transactions - a couple seconds. Bitcoin transactions settle in several ten minute intervals. In contrast, credit card transactions settle in thirty days or more. Bitcoin can process approximately 3 transactions per second while credit cards can process upwards of thousands per second. Bitcoin -- in the form of Bitcoin Cash -- can process about 25 transactions a second. And for the interval of time when demand does not outstrip this capacity, zero conf transactions are reasonably safe for many use cases. Which yields a user experience roughly on par with credit cards to the buyer, and markedly superior than credit cards for the vendor. Will 25/sec be enough five years from now? No, but the incessant march of technology will resolve that issue.
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Anybody who does a normal transaction with normal fees gets confirmed quickly.
There was a time when these were not 'normal fees':
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