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4301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is this the long awaited bull run? on: December 16, 2020, 10:37:45 PM
yes 3 years is a long time, and of course this requires a lot of patience to hold Bitcoin,
I'm sure many people have sold it, and congratulations for those who are still holding.

Bull run it is, but not as big as the bull run last 2017 because we are seeing altcoins market is not that bullish.

Bitcoin's new ATH has already been achieved this year, the 3 years of long drought really convince us that bitcoin is not gonna make a new ATH soon, but here it is, right in front of our eyes, so let's see what will happen next, good luck!
4302  Economy / Gambling / Re: Sportsbooks that aren’t paying out on Biden winning the US Presidential Election on: December 16, 2020, 10:25:25 PM
I was about to post about betbtc already settled the bets, but when I read the previous page, I saw they already posted.
Hopefully the other sites have already settled the bets as well so everyone will be happy, especially now that bitcoin has already hit a new ATH.
4303  Economy / Gambling / Re: Is this a scam? on: December 14, 2020, 10:49:14 PM
I found this video that seems too good to be true. I don't understand how it would be scam, can someone shed some light on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtCoBG97X68&feature=youtu.be&ab_channel=ChairStacker
You know it's too good to be true, from that moment of recognition you already have doubts, so don't gamble on any platform that you have doubt. it might not turn scam right away but in the long run it will, it's just wait for the right timing to go off when they already accumulated the amount they expected.
4304  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2020 US Presidential Election | Trump vs Biden on: December 14, 2020, 10:43:52 PM
Yeah, there are still gambling platform that hasn't yet agree with the recent result from the US election, as you have said, the rich politicians always making frantic efforts in turning their lose into win through some dubious means with the government mercenaries. What the Electoral College said this time will be final and Trump and his political party will be compel to accept the outcome result from this election and US will be great again.

This is not a new tactic. Some of the gambling platforms have used silly excuses before to deny winning amount to deserving people. US based gambling sites can't do that, as they will be taken t o court if they attempt to do anything even remotely similar. I am not sure what we can do against such gambling platforms which are based in various island nations. This is the reason why I stick to reliable gambling sites, which have been online for at least 2-3 years.
A big shame to them, they are not supposed to run such competition if they don't want to give the rewards to the winners. Even it was not finally declared that Biden won the Presidential race a few days after counting is done but it clear for everyone who wins the election. These greedy people must be put in jail if they are not able to pay. If they are not going to pay their obligation legally, then such a time that bettors will act in the wrong way just to get their money back.

That is right mate, this will never happen if we are using a legit platform or those site/s that have been trusted for many years in providing good services.

Calm down mate, gambling sites always have a rules to follow, when they say they'll wait for the official announcement, they would do that as they are not only catering bettors backing on Biden, they also have bets backing Trump and one party will complain if the rules are not followed, hence it will result to ruining the reputation of the site.
4305  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you rely on the odds when placing bets? on: December 14, 2020, 10:16:56 PM
When placing bets on sports betting I do not rely entirely on odds, because for me the most important thing is to follow
the information on the players or teams that will play. This is very influential on the results of the match, but that doesn't
mean the odds don't matter. But sometimes I dare to bet on the favorite team even though the chance of winning is small.
Because basically all gambling lucky plays an important role.
That's the correct way, the odds are just a numbers, there's more to it that we should look at and analyze deeply, sometimes the odds are the demon that will make us bet easily especially if a good team is given a good odds that we aren't expecting. I have a lot of experience in betting where I do fall for a big trap, because of the good odds of my favorite team, I did not study anymore and just bet blindly as I was too confident, then the result is the entire opposite so I conclude that a trap really exist on odds, so be careful.
4306  Economy / Gambling / Re: 1XBIT.COM ᐉ Bet online ᐉ BTC Betting ᐉ Online betting odds on: December 14, 2020, 03:12:44 PM
Is there any chance i can recover the 0.07btc you stole me like 2 years ago? I didnt violate any term as u told me and as u tell everybody
If the problem of yours will be solve it will give a headache for 1xbit as it's expected that a lot of bettors who had the same situation as you are will ask for there problems to be solve too. So good luck to you mate, hopefully there's still a chance.
4307  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake or nitrogen my point of view on: December 14, 2020, 02:47:08 PM
Only yesterday stake sent 1.2 milion $ for all her memebres that have raffle tickets and 1 winner get 212k stake love to give and there bonuses is high and the important thing you get money no free bet no roll over or that shit

I think this prolonged discussion should be over now as there is no comparison between Nitrogen and Stake.  I wished there was a poll on this thread and we could see the stake is far more recommended site than the nitrogen sports.
A poll is good but you don't need a poll on this one to determine which of the two gets the most votes from posters here. I remember we have a poll on what is the best sportsbook in crypto, and I thought non of these two sites mentioned here won the top, it was sportsbet IIRC.
4308  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Paying on Alibaba.com with Bitcoin?? on: December 14, 2020, 02:08:59 PM
I'm lucky to land in this thread, I have been searching some information like this because I'm planning to purchase in this online store.
Thank you OP for bringing this question, we have the same interest and thank you for those who have provided a relevant information about the topic.

I have bookmarked the thread, will be reading comments from now on.
4309  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you rely on the odds when placing bets? on: December 14, 2020, 01:56:03 PM
Odds is not something to rely on, if you'll do that, it will make you bankrupt easily.
The market or the betting odds that we are saying are just probabilities according to what people think set by bookmakers, but it could be real or trap, so make sure we understand that so we will not fall for the trap, bookmakers are smart enough, it's their job to mislead people so bookies will win most of the time.
4310  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★BetBTC★ Sportsbook | Bitcoin Sports Betting | Since 2014 | Instant Withdrawals on: December 14, 2020, 12:52:45 PM
Congratulations for the winners, for those who haven't won yet, better luck next time, there's always a next time.
I think I'm gonna put my prediction early, most of the winning predictions now are posted early.

Thanks you. I will try them.

No KYC mate, I can vouch for that.
4311  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🏆⚽ Adkinsbet.com | Sports | In-Play | ESports | Racebook | Virtual Sports | ⚽🏆 on: December 14, 2020, 12:37:49 PM
They have a promotion every week and the games then start on the weekend, I guess that will be somewhere today or tomorrow that there is a new promotion coming? 40 mbtc for the winner every week that's a lot of money. With so many participants, the chances that somebody will win it is pretty high.
Yes, but that seems a very successful promotion every week as a lot of people are joining, 40mbtc is high for us but for them it's not really that big, but we should be thankful because Adkinsbet.com is giving people some fun here and I'm really impressed with the big number of participants supporting it.
4312  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2021 NBA Season on: December 14, 2020, 12:18:40 PM

I may have been premature on this one. He’s looking pretty good so far in his preseason debut.

Yep, I agree and somehow he outshine his brother Lonzo on this one.

Comparing the two brothers right now, It seems that both have similarities on their game. Especially, that they're both Playing on PG post. But, I'll take Lamelo on this one. I mean, yeah he improved a lot to be honest (through the years) and I must say the hornets did the right thing drafting Lamelo. A PG that is a pass first type, he got the height and vision, a commendable in-court IQ. But, the only thing I'm quite not impressed is that he passed the too flashy sometimes. But yeah orverall, he'll be great.

Ps. Let's insert Liangelo, thoughts about him?
I can say he's a good shooter though, but he's still lacking something. Defense maybe? Oh, well hoping he  could earn a spot though.



These brothers rea really good, they are well trained by their father who instill to his kids to consider basketball as their passion. Lamelo is good too, he will be more develop in the NBA but it's too early to judge, we will certainly see him producing big numbers once the season will start.

All I wish is a good luck to them, hopefully soon Liangelo will be able to play in the NBA.
4313  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will Bitcoin reach 20k $ in 2021? on: December 14, 2020, 10:43:31 AM
After hitting 19.5k $, Bitcoin suddenly dumped below 17k instead of targeting for 20k $. Do you think guys will Bitcoin reach 20k $ in 2021? Or will it stay below 17k $ like as always?
Share your own thoughts and let us know friends.

Everybody thought that Bitcoin is going to set to another all time high but unfortunately it did not we could be celebrating when the all time high was hit unfortunately we will have to delay our cerebration maybe next year, that is the definite time that we are going to have another all tiem high and another celebration.
That's Expectation against reality, While many is looking for ATH others are just cool and firm in their holding because they believe in Bitcoin and not in a easy growth that mostly whale manipulators are the starter.
Look at the movement this year,mid of November the Bull starts but just within the Month if falls and now staying neutral in lower amount.
People need to wait patiently and not looking for fast profit because the effect of this is panicking and selling more than holding.

They are looking for an ATH so they'll be able to dump their bitcoin.

We holders of bitcoin has different target, no one hold forever, but for those who are targeting like $100k or more, they'll be happy to see a new ATH also as that is the start of a higher price and that makes them more excited on holding.

ATH will definitely come, but we don't know when, so keep holding because we believe that bitcoin will increase as adoption increases.
4314  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ POLL ]: Boxing - Anthony Joshua vs Kubrat Pulev - JOSHUA WINS IN ROUND 9 on: December 14, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
Let us not forget it took Joshua 9 rounds to defeat Pulev and he managed to knock him out in the final few seconds of that round. If Pulev managed to stand up the referee would have allowed the fight to continue which means at very earliest Joshua could have won was the 10th.

On current form he would struggle against Wilder and have no chance against Fury.

I dont think that he can even struggle against Wilder, if he would be in same shape as he was in his first fight against Fury.
Ruiz showed how not ideal Joshua's defence is, and how he hold punches. Will he be able to hold aggression from Bronze Bomber?
Agree, he has zero chances against Fury. He wont outbox him and win on cards, neither he is able to KO Fury.

Joshua seems wasn't praise in his fight against Pulev, people are not satisfied with the way he showed that he wasn't so aggressive in the fight. Personally, I think Joshua is still a dangerous fighter but his style if he will not adjust, he might loss against Fury or Wilder.

That's what I noticed too, but you can't blame the fans, it seems like they did not see what they were expecting from Joshua, it was expected that Joshua would finish Pulev early with a KO win, but it didn't happen, it was in the late round where Pulev got knock out, and actually Pulev is not anymore on his prime that's why Joshua had easily dominated him.
4315  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2020 US Presidential Election | Trump vs Biden on: December 13, 2020, 12:28:03 PM

I thought that it's all final and Biden is the clear winner of this election. But with those suits and formality that Trump is filing, this made other bookies to have a delay for the payment of those Biden bettors.
Just a little more patience for those Biden winners, for sure they'll send the payouts as soon as possible. Other bookies have been doing it, they probably want to be sure that there will be no ruckus if something unexpected happens.

Trump can file a suit but the suit is just an arrogant denial that he is beaten by Biden, they cannot sustain it, he had the money that's what rich dirty politicians are doing, file a suit so he can give his supporters and allies reason to still support him, here in our country, politicians are always in denial that they've lost in the election, they always think that they are cheated.

It's his right, his camp believe that there was a cheating, so they filed a lawsuit, and we don't know what would be the decision for that, however, people believe that Biden won clearly the election and there was no cheating. Talking about being rich, it's not only Trump that is rich, Biden is rich as well because he is a millionaire. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a34205042/joe-biden-net-worth/

Isn't it obvious that who ever will win the elections, the loser will claim that there was a cheating in the election. I think the results are transparent and trump should admit his defeat. I am not favoring trump or biden, but the should set an example and accept the defeat with an open heart.
Even bettors already know who wins, even if they back on Trump they already know Biden wins and they have accepted the loses, however, it's not them who complain, it's Trump who made a complain and bookies needed an official announce of the elections before they will grade the bets.
Presidential elections or whatever do not always go smoothly even if it is decided who will win and that happens in any country, and whoever wins and loses will try to find the slightest mistake to bring up.
And it's clear that Biden won absolutely without cheating and supporters on both sides admit it, and maybe Trump still doesn't believe he lost, so whatever it is Trump is just trying to bring up the slightest mistake even if it's not necessary. exaggerated.
If we will continue to talk about that, it will be a never ending discussion as both candidates have their own supporters, we should be talking about "bitcoin betting" as the title says, and until now bets are not graded yet since there has been no official announcement that is release.

Since there's a lawsuit, it will be the course which will judge that, let's leave that to them as they are the experts on that field and it's their job.
Let's be objective here as this has been taken so long, people are already bored on waiting.
4316  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcoin betting on the 2020 US Presidential Election | Trump vs Biden on: December 13, 2020, 11:49:00 AM

I thought that it's all final and Biden is the clear winner of this election. But with those suits and formality that Trump is filing, this made other bookies to have a delay for the payment of those Biden bettors.
Just a little more patience for those Biden winners, for sure they'll send the payouts as soon as possible. Other bookies have been doing it, they probably want to be sure that there will be no ruckus if something unexpected happens.

Trump can file a suit but the suit is just an arrogant denial that he is beaten by Biden, they cannot sustain it, he had the money that's what rich dirty politicians are doing, file a suit so he can give his supporters and allies reason to still support him, here in our country, politicians are always in denial that they've lost in the election, they always think that they are cheated.

It's his right, his camp believe that there was a cheating, so they filed a lawsuit, and we don't know what would be the decision for that, however, people believe that Biden won clearly the election and there was no cheating. Talking about being rich, it's not only Trump that is rich, Biden is rich as well because he is a millionaire. https://www.marieclaire.com/politics/a34205042/joe-biden-net-worth/

Isn't it obvious that who ever will win the elections, the loser will claim that there was a cheating in the election. I think the results are transparent and trump should admit his defeat. I am not favoring trump or biden, but the should set an example and accept the defeat with an open heart.
Even bettors already know who wins, even if they back on Trump they already know Biden wins and they have accepted the loses, however, it's not them who complain, it's Trump who made a complain and bookies needed an official announce of the elections before they will grade the bets.
4317  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Moloney vs Franco III: Ordered by WBA (No date yet) on: December 13, 2020, 11:27:20 AM
I was surprised honestly, I thought it was the same fighter that was defeated by Inoue because the last name was so familiar.
Just for FYI for those who are not really a boxing enthusiast, this fighter is Andrew Moloney and the one that is beaten by Inoue was Jason Moloney.

Anyone knows what's their relationship?

Well, I am wondering as well at first on who is the Moloney that Naoya Inoue was fighting and after some research on google Andrew and Jason are actually twins and both are a professional boxer that is why both share the same surname and face as well.



The controversial fight between Andrew Moloney and Joshua Franco was really rising some issue about the wrong call of the referee that the eye swelling was not due to the headbutt but a poke of a finger, because if you would look closely at the slow replay you can see that Franco's eye was still fresh after the headbutt, and it was then revealed that it was during a punch of Moloney that cause the swelling.

Wow, so they are twins, and they are both boxers, but this one Andrew is the better fighter I think.
Naoya Inoue also has a brother in boxing but not a twin, his name is Takuma Inoue (https://www.asianboxing.info/takuma-inoue.html).

Surprising, the twins has similar record
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/698248 (Andrew Moloney 21-1)

https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/693965 (Jason Moloney 22-2, because he loss to Naoya Inoue. )

4318  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where can I bet on who win on NBA? & can we also bet on other sports? on: December 13, 2020, 10:50:55 AM
I guess you should learn actual betting on a sportsbook here in the crypto space, we have a lot of bookies here.

just go to the gambling section and try to read comments on their ANN thread.
Check here ; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=56.0

the sites that I'm using are

1-betbtc
2-sportsbet
3-nitrogensports
4-sportsbet
5-betnomi.
6-stake

just choose or maybe try them all if you want.
4319  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stake or nitrogen my point of view on: December 12, 2020, 10:14:45 AM
Nitrogen has many of this from the past But up to now still Their players experience these incompetence ,Good that There is OP like that bring this to conversation so the Nitrogen Team may seriously look upon problem now and may act as what is necessary or else they will continuously lose players since there are already many sites now that offers more and attractive.
I'm definitely sure they are reading this thread, it's a very honest experience and opinion about their site, they just need to improve because they are still not out in the competition, they have the name, they just have to build it again.
4320  Economy / Gambling / Re: ★BetBTC★ Sportsbook | Bitcoin Sports Betting | Since 2014 | Instant Withdrawals on: December 12, 2020, 09:10:47 AM
Hi @BetBTC, I tried to find the betting odds for NBA Preseason and it seems like it's not available, aren't you offering odds for the NBA preseason?

Looking forward for you reply.

They may not be available yet because it has not yet started. not every bookmaker has those odds listed at the same early stage.
You also often see events that only start in months (just think of the Olympic Games or the European Football Championship).
Those matches are still months away and it may take longer before they are visible. I think they will be published soon.

I'm talking about preseason games, it's not a regular season, and preseason games have already started.

Here are the results ; https://www.nba.com/.. Tomorrow there's another games.

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