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4321  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers lose more money than win. on: November 17, 2020, 11:52:18 PM
It may actually really happen to most people included in gambling. But in online gambling, as right now, I think the percentage is 50:50.
Nowadays, many people concern about gambling and they are playing gambling. But what makes them still survive until now because they have a different point of view, strategies, and also tricks to make themselves make or earn profits.

And inthis case, related to control how much money have they spent and gained, it is better to make a certain portfolio about winning and lost. It seems difficult moreover many gamblers do not need and also talk more no about this. However, we can think about what will happen to our portfolio if we only have red signs on the portfolio. That is why this is also needed in order to be guided and also at least notes for gambling
4322  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Gang uses crypto for illegal purposes on: November 17, 2020, 11:46:37 PM
This is always a bi matter for several countries, about using crypto for illegal purposes, not only in gambling but others, too. However, this is a part of the negative side of cryptos. There are still many positives sides, but we must really let other common people know this because if not, they will only think about the negative issues.

And about gambling in China with this kind of condition, I am afraid that this becomes another bomb likely to make gambling in that country to be more strictly regulated or illegal. IN this case, although their people will easily join in overseas gambling, they may also face some difficulties around them because of the rules.

So, will it really give another perspective about the world of crypto in that country?
4323  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Now is the best time on: November 15, 2020, 11:58:22 PM
If you mean the best time to attract people to join your project, it doesn't depend on the current situation but depending on how good / how promising your project. Even if it is Defi hype or crypto investment hype, but people aren't blind. The investors are getting smart, they know how to analyze good or bad a crypto project. If you only launch a project just because of following the hype, then I doubt it can be successful, buddy.
4324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin could destroy economy on: November 15, 2020, 11:52:15 PM
* The rich people could earn more in investing bitcoin while poor people could lose more. (vice versa the rich people may lose more and poor people can earn more)
What? Instead, Bitcoin investment allows people with a small amount of money can try to earn money as well. It is much different from the conventional investment, there are complicated requirements and you should have much money to join. Why don't you compare with invest in Forex? You deny the fact that Bitcoin makes everybody able to join even if you are a poor man. You can trade or invest even only have a small amount of money.

* the use of bitcoin to travel spending outside in the country is more like selling your country asset and that could destroy the economy of that certain country.
How can? Is the money I got from trading or investing in Bitcoin basically the money from my country? Or it is the money of my government?
No, the money got from trading or investing in Bitcoin is from all places in this world, it is global. Please open your mind and your eyes!!
4325  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I guess bounty hunters really kill projects on: November 14, 2020, 09:02:14 PM
I personally think you are wrong as well as because do you know how much budget for bounty hunters? its only 2 or 3% of total budget -snip-
It is true, bounty hunters only have a very small number of the tokens. Commonly, the allocation is only around 0.5% - 1%, lower than you stated above. How they can dump the price for a long time? Furthermore, not all bounty hunters sell their tokens after the distribution happens. Some of them decide to hold or keep the tokens to dream of selling at a bigger price in the future. With this fact, OP shouldn't blame the bounty hunters for the dumping price of YOUC lately. Even if bounty hunters really sell their tokens, the dump won't last a long time.
4326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Should I accept Bitcoin for payments on my online store? on: November 14, 2020, 07:26:46 PM
It deserves to try, why not?  Wink
If you apply it, it makes people who have Bitcoin be easier to pay. On the other hand, you contribute to make Bitcoin be real as a payment tool. I think it will be interesting, you start to make people realize that their Bitcoin is very useful now. So, people are aware that Bitcoin is not only for investment or trading, but it also can be used for payment purposes. FYI, there are already many people who are trying to accept Bitcoin as the payment of their stores. So far, it is quite successful, buddy.
4327  Other / Off-topic / Re: European Central Bank survey about digital euro on: November 14, 2020, 03:55:51 PM
Is that true when they someday create the Digital Euro, it will be decentralized? I don't think so and I also didn't find the exact statement that stated that in the article.
Well actually, it is about
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The European Central Bank is asking the public about the kind of digital euro they want to use.
It is different between the digital euro and also something that is decentralized. I personally cannot believe how a central bank will create their digital euro but it is decentralized, they will not regulate it. It seems too strange to know.

If you think so, others also have their own thoughts. So, we are just sharing here, open a discussion, but why should you say bye for this?

Bye!

Grin
4328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Public perception of Bitcoin as payment method (survey) on: November 14, 2020, 02:58:30 PM
..snipped..
Hi, I have done joining the survey.
They were long questions and you made the questions so clearly. I really appreciate it.

Well, actually about using Bitcoin as a payment method, so far, I never use it as a means of payment.
As you stated in one of the questions I quoted:

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Bitcoin should be allowed by governments to be a means of payment.

I can't answer this as "agreement" because, in my country, Bitcoin is only legal as a digital asset, but not for payment. And if it is for payment, I think that it is still difficult, but don't know later.

However aside from that, I do believe that other countries may be more open and start accepting BTC as a payment method. many global eCommerce or companies are also on that process probbaly.
4329  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Info] List Bounty Campaign Yang Exchangeable [Ter-update] on: November 14, 2020, 02:36:13 PM
HEX ada 2 Campaign ya ? yang satu dibayar menggunakan token HEX dan yang satunya pake BTC

HEX
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286632.0

BTC
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285933.msg55497023

Update terbaru terkait campaign HEX, untuk saat ini terkait bounty HEX berbayar BTC, BM dan Escrow oleh Hhampuz.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289201.0 (detail bisa dicek langsung dan ini mungkin seharusnya masuk ke thread Signature campaign berbayar BTC, ini sekedar info saja untuk menanggapi postingan agan @khiholangkang. )

Btw, ada lagi campaign altcoin yang sudah tradable (saya cek tadi sepertinya belum ada yang post di sini). namun jika ternyata sudah ada, bisa langsung deleted saja.  Smiley

Bounty        : Stobox
BM              : stobox_official
Pembayaran : $STBU Token
                         $STBU Voucher
Lebih detail bisa cek ini:

Level
0000000000000
Hero/Legendary
Sr. Member
Full Member
Member/Copper
Jr. Member
Newbie
 $STBU Token
000000000000
$30 / week
$25 / week
$20 / week
$15 / week
-
-
 $STBU Voucher
000000000000000
$100 x 1 / 4 week
$50 x 1 / 4 week
$100 x 1 / 8 week
$50 x 1 / 8 week
$100 / 4 week
$50 / 4 week
Available Slots
00000000000000
13 [Filled 0]
15 [Filled 2]
20 [Filled 21]
26 [Filled 14]
50 [Filled 1]
50 [Filled 3]

Available slots are subjected to change without prior notice.
Exchange: Sudah listing di ProBit Exchange dan Uniswap (v2)
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/stobox-token/markets/

Btw, silahkan lakukan research terlebih dahulu untuk memutuskan ingin join di campaign ini atau tidak. DYOR  Smiley



 
4330  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Ingin menjadi seorang trader profesional ! on: November 13, 2020, 11:59:52 PM
Seharusnya target CL sudah ditentukan sebelum melakukan open position, jadi disaat pergerakan harga diluar ekspetasi maka cut-loss inilah yang akan menjadi rem. Tetapi jika ingin melakukan cut-loss dadakan buat open order yang sudah lama dibuat, maka perlu beberapa pertimbangan.

- Jika market sudah tidak liquid, sebaiknya memang dilakukan CL (dan agan bisa melakukan switch market)
- Jika marketnya masih liquid, lakukan CL di harga yang tinggi, lalu buyback setelah harga mengalami koreksi (tapi jangan open position saat koreksi masih berlangsung)
Itulah hal yang miss dan saya salah lakukan, karena masih terlalu berharap jika koin akan naik lagi, namun ternyata tidak. Dan pada saat itu, sama sekali belum ada keberanian penuh untuk CL.
Dan sepertinya opsi yang kedua bisa jadi pilihan, karena marketnya sedang ada pergerakan naik, agar tidak terlalu rugi (walau ini sudah jadi resiko).  Cheesy

..Kejadian seperti ini kalau dari saran temen saya mending jangan entri di koin ini lagi, mending cari di koin lain yang memiliki potensi mengembalikan kerugian sebelumnya. DWYOR/DYOR CMIIW

Jadi memang, target CL ditentukan pada saat akan entri seperti yang disebutkan oleh mas Abhiseshakana, mungkin jika ada masukan lain boleh donk share tekniknya di https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2874360.0 agar lebih luas cakupannya  Wink
Nah, ini bisa menjadi opsi, setidaknya bisa mengembalikan kerugian sedikit demi sedikit. Dan tentunya benar sekali, harus lebih hati-hati dalam research market serta menentukan strategi CL ke depannya.


4331  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Question about crypto profit on: November 13, 2020, 11:50:17 PM
There are two possibilities for the reasons why they are buying BTC right now moreover the supply is high.
First, it is about buying BTC for investment although it is at a high rate right now. This may be influenced by the trust and also the worth of the BTC itself. They have their own consideration and it is about their belief that BTC will have a higher price again at least in the next year. So, many hopes to get a worthy investment of hodl.

The other reason is that they are buying the BTC for certain other profits. Here, we can see the use of daily trading where they will get profits from daily trading. In this case, they buy the BTC and then make profits directly to sell t as a daily trading profit. In futures trading, we can get profits even the price of BTC drops or rise.
4332  Economy / Economics / Re: Would you like to become a co-owner of a world bank? on: November 13, 2020, 11:41:04 PM
A co-owner of world bank?
I think this is difficult to do. The bank system is now using blockchain technology, yes that is true. BUt about the relation t the crypto, it is still a competitor moreover about the DeFi projects.

Being a co-owner of a bank is absolutely not easy, we must have the knowledge and also experience about it in order to make certain decisions, program, and also decision that is fairly wise and careful.
And in this case, we can really see how the bank system actually runs if we know the truth
4333  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multiplayer vs single player games on: November 13, 2020, 11:18:53 PM
Both are okay, single and multiple players are something interesting to take or participate in them. Moreover, multiplayer will also make the game more fun directly at the same time. However, should we really play it even we don't know each other in that slot room for betting?
It is actually normal and often happening but of course, we can see how it makes some interesting ways to be in multiple or single players.

Btw, the link is fixed now and it is the link for Bitcasino.io itself.
4334  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can bitcoin get an insurance? on: November 13, 2020, 11:13:36 PM
So far, I never heard about insurance for Bitcoin. Bitcoin is decentralized, so it may be not available to make insurance. Moreover, if it is about investment for the digital asset, it may be difficult to insure our investment in it.
Insurance will need some requirements and also, of course, the important thing under the law. But Bitcoin is once more decentralized. So it may be difficult to make it as proof of something if we lose our investment.
4335  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Ether Wallet Scam on: November 12, 2020, 11:49:16 PM
Based on your story, I think there is confusion here:
The wallet is hacked, but why did you accuse that ether is a scam? This is a very different way to do that. You are scammed by ether if ether did something wth your asset, get it to lose because ether wallet who did it. And you may create a wallet in a fake ether wallet.
But from what you said is that the wallet is ahcked. So, it is not the fault of ether wallet, and it odesn;t mean that ether wallet is a scam.

However here, an online wallet is too risky. Ether wallet also has noticed about it before registering, an online wallet is risky and better to use mobile walet. or a hardware wallet. about how to store the private keys and other crucial data, I do believe that we need to store it in a saver device and must have a backup.
4336  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Ingin menjadi seorang trader profesional ! on: November 12, 2020, 11:41:17 PM
...
yang saya lakukan adalah menjual ketika naik dan membeli ketikan terjadi penurunan, simpel saja.
Ini pernah saya lakukan gan, beli saat harga turun saat itu, tapi ternyata harganya terus turun dan turun hingga sekarang, sama sekali nggak ada naik-naiknya bahkan sampai sekarang, koinnya masih ada dan nyangkut. Sudah ada lebih dari 6 bulan dan akhirnya saya relakan untuk hold saja. Jdi strategi seperti itu masih terlalu umum  Grin Grin

Namun, setelah baca post dari suhu ini:
Jika trading tanpa menerapkan CL, maka seorang trader akan menghadapai potensi kehilangan aktifitas tradingnya, yang berarti kehilangan profitabilitas dari momen-momen yang akan terjadi didalam suatu market.
Saya jadi kepikiran untuk CL, mungkin. Namun masih memantau dulu sebentar apakah bakal naik lagi sedikit lagi atau tidak. Ini sudah terlalu lama saya hold, apakah worthy jika cutloss sekarang.  Grin
4337  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is an entertainment? on: November 12, 2020, 11:28:06 PM
It depends on each perspective. For some people, gambling is only a game, because they only play it for fun.
For others, gambling is like a business or job because they get income from it
-And some others said that gambling is for something crucial and sometimes dangerous because it is addicted and if someone can't maintain or control it, they will lose much.
4338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is NOT a replacement to the Stock Market/ traditional investments on: November 12, 2020, 11:19:55 PM
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Bitcoin is NOT a replacement to the Stock Market/ traditional investments
I totally agree with this, Bitcoin is not replacing.
But about saying Bitcoin is not an investment, I am still confused and don't know why it is said so.

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An investment is an asset or item that is purchased with the hope that it will generate income or appreciate in value at some point in the future.
What about this?
We put our funds in Bitcoin and hold it as an investment for a certain period for the sake of getting more income or profits in the future. I think this is also one of the investments.
But well yeah, once again, the definition may be different for each person here.

Source: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/investment.asp

4339  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] KEBERLANSUNGAN FORUM DISKUSI BITCOINTALK.ORG & MEMBER-NYA on: November 11, 2020, 11:59:58 PM
..Ane sempet kecewa karena adanya sistem merit karena sebulan lagi mau naik ke SR. Eh ada sistem baru harus memiliki minimal merit untuk naik rank selanjutnya, ane juga sempet ga buka2 Bitcointalk sampe 1 tahun karena udah sulit untuk bisa naik rank.
Sama, dulu saya sempet kecewa, apalagi dulu rank saya baru naik member, hahhaha
Sampai vacum juga beberapa bulan karena alasan tertentu. namun, akhrnya punya semangat lagi untuk aktif lagi di forum, dimulai dari baca-baca, ya benar kata para suhu di sini, dengan membaca, kita jadi tahu lebih banyak (walau saya juga gak terlalu banyak tahu), tapi setidaknya tidak malas lagi untuk mengikuti perkembangan di forum ini.
Dan akhirnya, dari merit standar member, saat ini sudah Senior member. Bersyukur sekali karena banyak member di sini yang mamu mebantu..  Smiley
Jdi jangan putus asa hanya karena merit  Smiley
Sudah banyak member yang membuktikan bahwa mereka bisa naik rank, bahkan ada yang dari 0 merit. Jadikan itu salah satu cambuk semangat..

jumlah anggota ga ada ngaruhnya? ngaruh bangetlah, forum itu pd dasarnyaa  komunitas semakin besar komunitas ya semakin besar pula forumnnya
itulah kenapa banyak campaign di forum ini krn baanyak orang disini dan blm lg  topik di google rank naik klo bnyk yg ngepost or buat topik di forum

cm mungkin makin kurang krn sdh jrng bounty beda kek dlu
dan jg post orang sering di hapus, makanya pd malas kali.

Itu yang disampaikan oleh Theymos, dia lebih ingin forum yang berkualitas. Buat apa forum besar namun banyak spam posts dan juga diskusi yang OOT?
Akan lebih baik jika forum besar dan juga dengan diskusi dan postingan yang sebagian besar adalah bukan spam posts bukan?
Dan bounty manager jaman sekarang juga sepertinya sudah mulai menerapkan kuliats postingan, dilarang spam posts dan lainnya..

4340  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino workers forced into unpaid leave on: November 11, 2020, 11:49:11 PM
So, this is still related to the impact of this pandemic right?
Well, this pandemic really gives big impacts, many employees not only in gambling industries are also off, leaving their jobs, as in my country, but many people are also jobless without any severance pay. This is so sad.
Moreover, that is an offline casino where this pandemic really limits the movement and also implement social distancing.

But is that what the best for the government to their citizen? Cutting their job without any payment? Later, will they give the salary for them if they are jobless?

This is a blunder where the casinos also less income and if they do not cut the employees, they may probably be not able to pay them.
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