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4321  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving economy at the cost of what? on: June 16, 2020, 08:30:13 AM
Saving the economy of a nation at the cost of our life. Yes, in many developing to underdeveloped countries people started starving due to lockdown hence there could be no other solutions for those governments except lifting the lockdown restrictions along with the instructions of mandatory social distancing and masks wearing. Fortunately the rate of death due to covid19 is not significant compared to most other new diseases of last few decades which could be the another reason governments started risking our lives for saving economy Shocked.

It seems we might need to lead our usual life among this virus and patients of covid by wearing masks and by using sanitizers on hands and our touchable everyday things. Tier1 countries may support people by feeding them to keep them staying within home but that is not possible for most other countries hence we cannot expect to continue lockdown.
4322  Economy / Economics / Re: I tried money making apps! on: June 15, 2020, 06:05:44 PM
There was a beer money type of reddit where people shared what they did to earn extra couple bucks every month and none of them were anything beyond that, a beer money and that is the trouble with these, you can't really make that much money with apps to begin with, if it was that easy why would anyone go out to work.

However in some small poor nation this could actually worth something to some people, even in the poorest countries 100 bucks is bare minimum living wage (mostly) and with these all you can make is 20-30 bucks per month if you work really hard on them. As you can see it is definitely a side income for some people in some poor nations but this is a niche population we are talking about. All the rest of us here in the higher economy world can't really make anything even remotely enough.
4323  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC big Movement.... &.....ALT.......... on: June 15, 2020, 05:09:41 PM
Seeing 7k wouldn't really matter too much since we have done that multiple times already. We have reached to a level where bitcoin peaked over 10k, went back to 7k, peaked over 10k, went back to 7k and did this around 5 times now if I didn't count wrong. It was first last year, then it happened on summer/early September, then it happened at the start of the year and now it happened again, so maybe it was 4 times but the November/December period could be fifth or not since it went up but not that much.

At the end of the day bitcoin has been around 7k-10k mostly on the past 1.5 years and it did moved higher or lower time to time but very rarely, all the other days were all 7k-10k. If we go down to 7k again which is totally possible, I would say buy as much as you can, because even if it goes to 3k after that, it will recover to 10k eventually.
4324  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC next Movement......... on: June 15, 2020, 03:53:59 PM
People are too afraid after the prices fell down today and I totally understand the logic, I would be scared too if I didn't see this too many times in a row. However I have been here long enough to know that when bitcoin wants to drop it drops, you can't stop it, you can't slow it down, whenever it wants to drop it drops. The thing about bitcoin not going down or up is the fact that usually that means it is pondering, the investors and traders are all just checking what would be the best way to go.

There is really not that much money to be made from either direction right now, whenever there is too much futures in one side they go other side because that way you can definitely get the money of everyone else on the other side, but right now it is all staying around the same looking at each other.
4325  Economy / Speculation / Re: Volatility warning on: June 15, 2020, 02:42:52 PM
Seems a reasonable warning after seeing today's fall of bitcoin market. I'm expecting market to bounce back after testing $8900 levels but not sure how strong will be the bears in coming days which may take up to $7000 levels as well. Like you have mentioned  it is time for all the bitcoin investors to measure their level of risks and capability of continuing holding. Usually I do not react based on market fluctuations but this is pandemic times and we may need money due to unexpected reasons which makes me to think about altering my portfolio.

After halving, I'm very much confident about sustaining of bitcoin market above $10k even the past history after each of halving was not saying that. Some people have explained why bitcoin was near $10k even in this pandemic situation like only halving was the trigger. But, I am seeing gold is performing well then why not bitcoin.
4326  Economy / Speculation / Re: TA indicates a sharp drop soon on: June 15, 2020, 01:02:03 PM
It is always a shocking thing for me on seeing the speculation on down markets are working perfectly whereas bullish trend based speculations were proved wrong. I am just talking about the recent times but I kept ignoring all the speculations which talked about "possible drop" but they finally proved me wrong Sad.

Today bitcoin showed a sharp downfall it was recovering from day before yesterday's $9200. But right now it is trading around $9100 which may do anything from here like it go further to test $8600 levels of may keep sustaining around the current level and then may start climbing up slowly toward $10k level too. I am not seeing any major trigger for this fall other than few technical reports which showed about drop. I read US stocks are dumped but not sure how bitcoin investors got panic due to that.
4327  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What is your opinion about HEX? on: June 15, 2020, 12:32:08 PM
I claimed from one of my BTC addy but I needed to pay the equal value of HEX in terms of ethereum gas. I'm not sure what are calculations they are following because they adjusted many of my balances and also locked most of HEX for 180 days or something. When I followed, hex was trading around 51 satoshi in yobit but after that it got heavily dumped to below 40 satoshi.

I showed interest on hex when some advertisements are so showing like already it got 1000% growth. But  after I started following, I'm not seeing any significant growth.

There has been some coins which have followed mandatory locking period regardless of their air drop programs and they somehow sustained in the market unlike most other forks. So, if the devs themselves will not be dumping then there would be some chances for HEX to be having some decent value in the future but I'm not sure what will be going to happen because they are not generous in terms of rewarding us which must be they signal for devs may go for dumps from their pre-mines.
4328  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The Future of Crytopcurrency on: June 15, 2020, 04:20:22 AM
Governments "will not" be silence to this? I mean it has been going around for 10 years now and governments all around the world are making some laws about crypto already supporting it. Sure there was a lot of times when governments did go against it but at the same time I feel like that small number means nothing when most of the worlds governments accepts bitcoin.

Right now the biggest country in power is probably USA and they have states (no federal laws regarding crypto afaik) that accepts crypto payments for taxes as well. So, I would like to say that governments will do nothing bad to it, they will support it. At least that is what they have done so far and they have raised billions of dollar in taxes combined, why would they change it later?
4329  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What do you think is the right time to buy BNB now? on: June 14, 2020, 09:13:56 PM
Looking at the price right now BNB is at around 16.7 dollars and that is not really all that bad to buy right away right now. I am not saying its the best time to buy, but you know the saying "the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago, second best time is today", if you just keep wishing you have bought before and not invest right now, few years from now you will be wishing you bought today and keep doing that cycle all the time.

Plus it was around 10 bucks just recently when everything dropped and nobody really cared about it, if you have bought from those prices you have made %60 profit in just one or two months as well, which as you can see means that you should buy it whenever it comes to your mind. I would say buy now, if drops than buy some more.
4330  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 14, 2020, 08:41:50 PM
Hakimi definitely doesn't warrant a price like 60 million during this period, the world is in a big trouble or at least getting better nowadays and the football clubs couldn't make any money at all, there is no way any team should pay this much to get Hakimi, he is a good player and if this pandemic didn't happen and teams finished the season, some team may have paid him that much but not anymore, or at least hopefully not anymore.

However if Hakimi gets sold for 60, I am %100 sure Madrid is buying Kante with that money, he would be PERFECT for Madrid and he would definitely take them to a higher level next season. They were looking for Pogba as well if he doesn't go to Juventus, a Pogba+Kante midfield would be like a dream come true for Real Madrid and would get them so much pressure at that position against other teams.
4331  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: June 14, 2020, 08:21:40 PM
It is a very tricky subject to go against and criticize the players as well, you can't say anything because if you do either you are a bigot who doesn't understand science or the other one is you are racist and hate blacks. For example, I would like to say something like ; these players have gone outside to protest what has happened to blacks in the nation, yet they do not want to play in NBA with a fear of getting the said sickness, if you are afraid of the sickness why did you go out to protest?

Now this doesn't say you hate blacks, this doesn't say players should play neither, this just talks about a dilemma and whenever you say something like this people blame you for being a bigot and racist, when you are the one who has supported these people for over 2 decades but nobody knows that.
4332  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE.me - Crypto Casino 🎰 Now Accepting EOS | Roll Hunt | Bonuses on: June 13, 2020, 07:45:59 PM
There is a huge difference between betting 2 bitcoins total and betting 1.6 bitcoin all at once. Since there is no competition I am not entirely sure if HDF would try to go beyond burritodick, I mean if there was something in return maybe he would try to beat him in order to become first and get the first place prize, but since there is no competition and the leaderboard is there just as a design thing and nothing important, I believe there is really no reason for hdf to try and beat him aside from just accessory type of deal.

Maybe there could be some sort of achievements and badges what not even if no prizes, that way people would at least work for a badge, even if it worths zero and no prize, there would still be a goal. If not, I think being third is more than enough in a leaderboard with no prizes.
4333  Economy / Gambling / Re: ♨️🎲 WINDICE.io 🎲 Contests 🏆 TvT 🔰 Progressive Faucet💰 Jackpots 🎁❤ on: June 13, 2020, 07:18:52 PM
competitions prize are low, site is nice, i <3 plinko
Competition prizes are another reason why it looks like the website is not as awesome as it used to be but still awesome.

They used to give away 0.2 bitcoin rewards and now it is 0.03 rewards, that is really all you need to know about what happened between those days and this day. I am not saying 0.03 is bad, it is still an awesome amount, we are talking about giving away 200 dollars and that is a ton of money to give away in a competition where most likely people would gamble anyway, so it is 200 dollars extra free to people.

However we are talking about 0.1 bitcoin winning just for the first place versus 0.03 to everyone involved, you can see how they moved down a lot, just because it is awesome right now doesn't mean it was better before, and just because it used to be higher doesn't mean it is not awesome right now.
4334  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: FOMO In Crypto; How to identify It on: June 13, 2020, 06:08:55 PM
The best case is to see the price jump way too much than it should. There is really no easier method then checking the price of any coin. If you see something going up over 10% and you want to buy, that is FOMOing and you should not do it, same with going down as well, do not worry when it goes down, just buy it discounted.

People do get into bitcoin and other crypto when the price suddenly starts going up, but the reality is you should have bought before it went up. Many people keep saying "how could I know when it will go up before it does" like it is impossible to guess, but look at the price on any other day, you will see that price is not going up every single day, it is usually either going down or staying around the same prices. Buy when it is like that and only sell when it goes up.
4335  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trade isn’t for Me guys. on: June 13, 2020, 04:11:33 PM
In the past on this forum, there had been a lot of people shared about quitting trading and that this community has been always tried to convince them to learn and then to proceed their trading; not sure what has happened to them after that but there are responsible community members here who are always suggesting about learning so that people will never need to leave off crypto trading.

There cannot be anything to do when people are getting frustrated and then deciding to quit trading, other than suggesting them to take a break and then try to focus on learning part of trading.

I never agreed to the myth of trading is not for everyone. Definitely it is suitable for everyone because there are different kinds of trading approaches are available and definitely at least one type of trading will be profitable for OP as well. I'm seeing a lot of people are sharing like long-term holding of bitcoin is profitable way of trading for them; I believe it is more suitable for any trader.
4336  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: A trading chart does not play out to 100% on: June 13, 2020, 03:19:23 PM
There cannot be anything to make you sure about 100% accurate of future movements. This is because, we are all predicting the future of market based on past movements but future is simply influenced by many other factors and not just limited to past. So, there cannot be any tool/chart available to get you 100% accurate predictions.

Moreover most tools and charts are known for lagging in providing any clear signal. It means they may show you just what happened and you need to interpret what is going to happen which cannot be accurate all the times because it would be just a guess work but based on past things (and not purely 100% guess work). Also, I have seen some advanced tools are "overwriting", it means for example will show you buy signal at $10100 levels but markets is trading at $10400 levels (I tried to wait to buy at $10100 but it showed target reached at $10800).
4337  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bankera..3 years after ICO...a money grab ICO??? on: June 12, 2020, 07:42:14 PM
Yeah when it is 3 years later and there is still no change, you know it is a big scam. There is no way to actually "prove" a scam but to call it one. You can't just get all the owners and find their personal records, all their bank details and all their crypto wallets and see what they have spent the money they collected on and figure out if they actually did it for personal gain or did that for the coin. That is not the data we could reach right now so there is no way to actually "prove" it.

However, has anyone in their right mind would have any questions about a scam when for 3 years people who have collected your money did nothing at all? If someone takes 3 years to do even the simplest thing, that is not just failure, that is outright scam and there is no questions about it.
4338  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Someone just paid $2,6M in fees while sending just $133 in ETH on: June 12, 2020, 06:37:20 PM
Who ever did this is so stupid. I believe he wished he checked the network fee before he clicked the send button. May be he is so busy and doesnt care about the transaction fee because he has a lot of ETH on his wallet.
I don't know, but I think, when he did it, maybe he was drunk, because if this is a bug, I don't think it's possible, if not drunk, it might be intentional, considering that the misdirection of this fee occurred again after this incident with an almost similar amount of $ 2.5M.
Yeah that is the thing about these transactions, we really don't know why anyone would do it knowingly and why this could be anything at all, we are trying to see a reason why anyone would do this to benefit themselves and we are having hard time finding it out. Fee is something that usually goes to miners, am I missing something there? Isn't it the miners who get the fee?

If that is the case, and if that person is willing to lose that much money to miners, that means in order to profit from this, he has to make sure that he gets it back (or anyone he knows that is a miner) and how can you be so sure about mining a certain block with that money in it? Or maybe there is some other blockchain feature that I am not aware of? I really have ZERO clue about what someone could gain from doing this, no idea.
4339  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Discussion (Altcoins) / Re: Bounty hunters United we stand on: June 12, 2020, 06:04:49 PM
You say you are standing united but at the same time whenever there is a bounty where some project gives out 10 cents for 10000 people you still all fill that bounty. I mean sure stand together and ask for better bounties but at the same time unless you start to not really show any attention to bad ones, how are you going to get their attention?

I know right now if I start a project I can just give pennies on the dollar, hell just create some fake coin myself and make you work for it as well, yet there will be thousands of people that will apply from all over the internet if I do that. So, why do you think project owners who knows this will suddenly start listening to the needs and requests of the bounty hunters who are not united and who do not posses any threat?
4340  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any use for failed cryptos? on: June 12, 2020, 04:04:14 PM
There cannot be anything we can do out of failed cryptos. In recent times, I have seen a discussion about how to remove dead tokens from ethereum addy; I conclude that dead tokens are becoming a problem like spam thanks to ethereum and and their innovation of smart contracts. I'm not kind of person blaming technology for human's mistake but at the same time ethereum and their intensive support to host ICO definitely led to end of interest for many people here. Yes, ethereum is not the first coin to offer platform for smart contract.

The only thing you can do with failed coins and project is to learn not repeating the same mistakes for both projects and investors.
At least for the prices we had paid for those coins/tokens, we should remember those lessons. Unfortunately people are known for forgetting lessons and repeating mistakes and this is the reason for scammers are still existing.
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