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4321  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 10, 2017, 08:21:53 PM
wow so glad i brought this thread back from the dead last year


but i think we need more memes folks, liven the place up a little , these walls of text are making my poor little brain cell hurt.  Grin Cheesy

So anyway here ya go folks...

a video of BADecker  spouting his nonsense in person!!!      comedy gold!
now you may ask, so why does BADecker never link to this retarded web page seeing how he parrots all the pious drivel the site spouts.
simple ...who'd wanna be exposed on bitcointalk for being an  ignorant moron?  (i know this place is full of em, but whatever...)
Sorry BADecker... aka  Ken Ham, i just blew your cover!!  lol



                      
                  
4322  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 10, 2017, 06:24:19 PM


"A Mississippi electric company has filed suit against GAW Miners for non-payment and breach of contract.

According to court documents, Mississippi Power Company (MPC) is seeking repayment of roughly $224,000 in services, as well as nearly $50,000 in costs incurred specifically for servicing GAW.

MPC is looking to collect an additional $73,493.48, an amount the utility claims it is entitled to as a result of the alleged breach of contract.

The suit was filed on 8th April in the Southern District Court for the Southern District of Mississippi. The electric utility is being represented by Mississippi-based law firm Balch & Bingham LLP.

In total, MPC is seeking $346,647.29 plus interest and any court fees associated with the suit."


 Hey I know ....in lieu of a $346,647.29 payment to MCP,
(good lord!! and i thought my electric bill was huge)
 homero could just use one of those prime controller thingies and just have it firehose a few million xpy.
that should cover it.

oh wait a minute... he did firehose xpy...dont think he paid the power bill tho...I believe he sent them
to Corruptsy and cashed out a boatload of bitcoin.... (because his lawyer doesnt accept xpy..ya think?)
4323  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 09, 2017, 02:28:29 AM
https://twitter.com/jmordica


How ionic! Another Christ follower fucking his fellow man outta their hard-earner money.


"Father, who art in heaven, sent me to this forum to seek out the best ball cupper of them all."

homeros scam thread reduced to Chippendale Jeebus sporting grape smugglers and a Rolex with discussions of ball cupping eh?
ahh ok, Glebs here...that explains it Grin Cheesy
4324  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 06, 2017, 10:33:14 PM
So who the fuck is mark Cuban
He tweets And bitcoin falls poeple belive HIM???
Damn those naïef poeples who is holding bitcoin 😓😓😓

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=mark+cuban

anyway...is the $3000 party this week or next?
4325  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2017, 12:14:40 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20150102053041/https://hashtalk.org/topic/27197/paybase-will-not-be-born-in-a-day

i wonder if cryptomademan (remember him?) made it in crypto .... "I am in it to win it. All the way good or bad  Cheesy"

or how about coinminer... I'm here along with everyone else (that believes in paycoin), and we say that we stand strong, we stand fast, and we stand United! Count me in for the revolution!

rof
4326  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 05, 2017, 12:02:55 AM

I have to do every fuckin thing 'round here  Cry: https://twitter.com/WoWGava/status/580715119677603841


Well, you are the best at it after all, sir! I didn't think it was necessary! Tongue

There used to be a site that had a full archive of hashtalk available - does anyone have it still if it's still online? Thanks!

https://web.archive.org/web/*/hashtalk.org

remember when badbitcoin posted a post about how they were invested in paycoin and how it wasnt a scam and how they were awesome at seeing through scams... then removed the post from their page showing that. anyone got that?

does that mean badbitcoin should add badbitcoin to their list?

oh yeah, i remember that whole fiasco
4327  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2017, 11:59:01 PM

I have to do every fuckin thing 'round here  Cry: https://twitter.com/WoWGava/status/580715119677603841


Well, you are the best at it after all, sir! I didn't think it was necessary! Tongue

There used to be a site that had a full archive of hashtalk available - does anyone have it still if it's still online? Thanks!

https://web.archive.org/web/*/hashtalk.org


thanx gleb. !    late 2014 and 2015 is chock full of some real gems! hardly surprising as that's when it all imploded.
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4328  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 04, 2017, 10:25:36 PM



This is exactly why we can't use carbon dating to verify the age of things. The Bible record suggests that there might not have been any C-14 in the atmospher prior to the Great Flood of Noah's day.

The point isn't the Bible record. The point is that we can't go back very far with any certainty. We don't really know how much older than 5,000 years the universe is, through scientific observation.

Having fun yet?

Cool

and here we have yet another demonstration of the sheer ignorance of our buddy badecker.
he's probably never heard of anything other than carbon dating which only works back to 5000 years or so.
dude, you ever heard of all the other elements that dekay with known half lives? no didnt think so....
educate yourself... seriously educate yourself.
sometimes i think you really don't believe all the shit you spout, you've just gone so far down the road of delusion
with these threads ,that to take it all back now is impossible and you'd look foolish (you do anyway) ,so you  figure ....
"gone this far, might as well just carry on and go full retard!!!"
4329  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 04, 2017, 08:13:27 PM
Good morning Bitcoinland.

After 4 days of slowly rising prices we had a nice little $100 correction and bounce halfway back up and seem to be consolidating well above $2500... currently $2525 (Bitcoinaverage).

This is the kind of moderate growth we need to keep going.

Go Bitcoin go.

Definitely, slow & steady upwards price increments is the way to go. Much better than huge pumps which are unsustainable & are usually followed by an inevitable dump.

Be nice to break $3000 by the end of 2017, that's my personal hope.

breaking $3000 by end of year is a cakewalk ,
tho it wont be a rise, more likely a crash from $3500
(followed by $4000 shortly thereafter)...this is bitcoin folks....
4330  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2017, 07:57:08 PM
Looks like the possibility that homero is not gonna serve time is becoming more remote by the day
and perusing the bowels of this thread proves that alone ,some hilarious gifs too!
(well hilarious for some folks... maybe not so much for the credulous suckers victims )
30-80 months is the recommended sentence straight from the US Attorneys Office.  If he serves more it will be because the victims voices were heard by the judge or less if they are not.  If you are elderly, disabled, etc it would be in your best interest to speak up once the sentencing phase comes up.  We aren't there yet.
AGREED!

Is there anyone here who can speak for @Gava, who was critically ill and put all his savings into XPY for his family, before he died broke?

wow. never heard that story tho remember  gava posting on hashtalk. really sorry to hear that.  that really sux.
when you follow a thread like this and all its often raw and over the top humor its easy to get caught up in it ,
and forget that many real people really got hurt bad. I myself got "suckered" , thankfully only pocket change
(don't invest,more than.... lose.....etc)
so I guess it's easy for me to joke about it. won't any more.
4331  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | Hybrid Security | 25% PoS on: June 04, 2017, 07:37:42 PM

Long time diamond hodler, thread lurker here... So I just registered at the diamond multipool and
signed a message with my wallet to prove I controlled the receiving addy I registered.
I pointed one of my gpu nicehash miners(V1.7.5.12) at the bitcoin addy I was assigned for a few hours.
The nicehash "my miner" page showed mining activity and some bitcoin dust so I know it's working.
Alas though, upon clicking  "mining stats" for my diamond addy (on dmd multipool page) it shows all goose eggs (zeros)
Also notice that it does not list the equihash (zcash algo) algo I'm mining with which, atm ,is
the most profitable algo, afaik. Also under "all accounts stats" I see two diamond accounts that are not mine.

Can someone clue me in on what's up?  
Thanx   siraz

All is fine sirazimuth, just send your earnings to your BTC address you see on the multipool page.
The page does not refresh very often, payments are processed every 48 hours I think, not sure about this. Cryptonit is this right?
Just be patient if you want to mine this way.

ok thanx.. i kinda suspected that

we did stop adapt and add new algo stats from nicehash they change just to often

but we track ur nicehash balance
its visible as unconfirmed balance

once it switched to confirmed balance that means nicehash payout did arrive at multipool and next BTC -> DMD conversion will include ur BTC

conversion this days just happens every 2 - 3 days

keep in mind that the payout limits from nicehash affect when ur balance go from unconfirmed to confirmed

they changed that to be pretty high so for get a payout once a weak u must be able to mine over 0.01 BTC in a weak
if ur balance at nicehash is below if will be part of their once a month payouts for balance above 0.001 BTC

and for a daily payout at nicehash u need crazy mining income of above 0.1 BTC

ok thanx for that info. appreciate the quick response.
don't i wish i was mining above .1btc a day!  maybe someday when diamond $5 a coin  Cheesy
4332  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | Hybrid Security | 25% PoS on: June 04, 2017, 06:11:32 PM

Long time diamond hodler, thread lurker here... So I just registered at the diamond multipool and
signed a message with my wallet to prove I controlled the receiving addy I registered.
I pointed one of my gpu nicehash miners(V1.7.5.12) at the bitcoin addy I was assigned for a few hours.
The nicehash "my miner" page showed mining activity and some bitcoin dust so I know it's working.
Alas though, upon clicking  "mining stats" for my diamond addy (on dmd multipool page) it shows all goose eggs (zeros)
Also notice that it does not list the equihash (zcash algo) algo I'm mining with which, atm ,is
the most profitable algo, afaik. Also under "all accounts stats" I see two diamond accounts that are not mine.

Can someone clue me in on what's up?  
Thanx   siraz

All is fine sirazimuth, just send your earnings to your BTC address you see on the multipool page.
The page does not refresh very often, payments are processed every 48 hours I think, not sure about this. Cryptonit is this right?
Just be patient if you want to mine this way.

ok thanx.. i kinda suspected that
4333  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: June 04, 2017, 01:35:24 PM
 Looks like the possibility that homero is not gonna serve time is becoming more remote by the day
and perusing the bowels of this thread proves that alone ,some hilarious gifs too!
(well hilarious for some folks... maybe not so much for the credulous suckers victims )
4334  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Diamond (DMD) Evolution v 2.0 | Hybrid Security | 25% PoS on: June 04, 2017, 01:26:12 PM

Long time diamond hodler, thread lurker here... So I just registered at the diamond multipool and
signed a message with my wallet to prove I controlled the receiving addy I registered.
I pointed one of my gpu nicehash miners(V1.7.5.12) at the bitcoin addy I was assigned for a few hours.
The nicehash "my miner" page showed mining activity and some bitcoin dust so I know it's working.
Alas though, upon clicking  "mining stats" for my diamond addy (on dmd multipool page) it shows all goose eggs (zeros)
Also notice that it does not list the equihash (zcash algo) algo I'm mining with which, atm ,is
the most profitable algo, afaik. Also under "all accounts stats" I see two diamond accounts that are not mine.

Can someone clue me in on what's up? 
Thanx   siraz
4335  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 03, 2017, 11:34:33 PM




Which was debunked:

''All around us, in nature and the universe we see machine-like operations. These operations are extremely complex inside life and the cells. Machines have makers.'' (Where did you get the idea of machines have makers, you said that a monkey using a rock is a machine, how does that tell you it has a maker, how exactly did you get to that conclusion)(You also still haven't defined what machine-like operations actually mean, then you post a bunch of videos explaining how cells work, ok?)

''The advanced machines of the universe have an advanced Maker - God. Machines have makers.'' (Again assumptions for no reason, how do you know advanced machines of the universe have an advanced maker and how do you know the advanced maker is god)

1) Premise: Whatever begins to exist has a cause.

1A) Firstly this is just an appeal to intuition and intuition isn't always a pure pathway to truth (i.e. - intuition states that the Sun goes around the Earth). There may indeed always be a cause for anything and everything that has or ever will come into existence, including whatever came into existence at the Big Bang event (the postulated beginning of our Universe), but that cause isn't always evident. Some quantum physicists would in fact claim that there are uncaused things (i.e. - radioactivity).

1B) Whatever cause in itself that has come into existence has, IMHO, thus resulted from a previous cause, which had a previous cause which had a previous cause and that chain can be extended as far back as you wish. Stated another way, there is no such thing as a First Cause.

1C) Whatever thing that came into existence came into existence from a previous thing(s) which existed and which in turn came into existence from a previous thing(s) which in turn came into existence from yet a previous thing and so on as far back as you wish to go. Stated another way, you can only bring something into existence from a previous something. You cannot bring a material something into existence from pure nothingness or from anything immaterial.

2) Premise: The Universe began to exist.

2A) I need note here that the "Universe" is defined as the sum total of all the bits and pieces that collectively make up the, or our, "Universe". The "Universe" is just the label we give to all of those bits and pieces (particles, atoms, molecules, dust, rocks, planets, stars, etc.) that came into existence in-the-beginning or later emerged into existence out of simpler states (i.e. – molecules from atoms).

2B) The assumption here is that our Universe is the be-all-and-end-all of the Cosmos**. While that may be the case, it's not necessarily so. Just because you came into existence doesn't mean that others don't also exist. Our Universe could be one of many. There could be parallel universes or even a postulated Multiverse or Megaverse - maybe.

3) Conclusion: Therefore, the Universe has a cause.

3A) The effect (resulting from the cause) of the Universe coming into existence or coming into being is called the Big Bang event, so the cause of the Universe (i.e. - the cause of the Big Bang event) was something prior to the Big Bang event. If the Universe had a cause then that cause was obviously pre-Universe or before the Big Bang event.

3B) That's where the cosmological buck has to stop since we can't observe or measure anything prior to the Big Bang event.

3C) In context all we can say is that our Universe came into existence at the moment of the Big Bang event and that the Big Bang event had a cause. That says nothing about the larger context as suggested in 2B. It could be that our Universe popped into existence from within a larger Cosmos just like a baby pops out of the womb at birth.

4) Conclusion: Therefore the cause behind the existence of the Universe was God.

4A) Nearly all theists state that the cause of the Universe was due to an omnipresent (all-present), omniscient (all-knowing), omnipotent (all-powerful), all-loving, perfectly moral, and perfectly benevolent Almighty Being (i.e. - God). However these traits along with an entity who is itself uncaused, beginning-less, changeless, eternal, timeless, and space-less; an immaterial all powerful being who is a personal agent, endowed with freedom of the will, aren't verified; aren't all mutually inclusive and logical, with many an inherent philosophical inconsistency as well as many being actually contradicted by Biblical chapter-and-verse passages (i.e. - God is hardly all-loving).

4B) But a supernatural deity with some or all of these traits is also a total fallacy even if for no other reason than that the Cosmos has to be eternal (temporally infinite) since as I noted above there can be no First Cause and because you can't, and not even God can, create something material from the immaterial. It's a logical contradiction to postulate the creation / existence of an absolute something from an absolute state of pure nothingness and even God has to conform to logic (i.e. - God can't create a spherical cube). If you can't create something from nothing then something has always existed. If the Cosmos is infinite or endlessly cyclic, an infinitely repeating causal loop where A causes B and B in turn causes A, then what need for a God? If therefore, as theists want, that the Cosmos is finite since infinities aren't possible (i.e. - they tend to throw spanners into theistic philosophies - see 4D), then God too is temporally finite, therefore had a beginning and therefore had a cause. That of course contradicts the concept of an eternal deity and raises the obvious question, what caused God? If God is eternal then God created the Cosmos and our Universe an infinite time ago which is clearly not the case.

4C) Since science can't explain or actually identify the "cause" that caused the existence of our Universe, on the grounds that the cause preceded the Big Bang event and thus this cause can't be observed or measured, theists step into the gap and conclude that God is that cause. This God-of-the-gaps conclusion is also a fallacy since there are numerous other alternatives. The cause of the Universe could have been the Flying Spaghetti Monster or any deity or deities from any of the world's hundreds of creation mythologies. Maybe it was just a natural Big Crunch (a contracting universe) turning inside out at crunch time into a Big Bang; maybe an unknown and perhaps unknowable other natural cause we haven’t imagined yet; perhaps a quantum fluctuation; even perhaps (and this is my bias) a mortal, fallible, flesh-and-blood computer / software programmer fills the gap. God is only one hypothesis of many.

4D) Theists, even some cosmologists mistakenly say that there can't be an infinite Cosmos due to entropy (the state of useable energy available). An infinite Cosmos would have attained a state of maximum entropy an infinite time ago but that is not what we observe. I contend that at the moment of the Big Bang the clock was reset to time equals zero; the Universe was restored to original factory settings (including a state of minimum entropy). Consider this analogy. You only started ageing, started running down, and started increasing your entropy, at your conception. That's when your clock started. That state of conception was your original factory condition. What came before was irrelevant since as far as you are concerned, there was no before (although clearly there was). You had a cause therefore there was a state that existed before you. That cause was your parents and their state of entropy is an irrelevance as far as you (their child) is concerned at conception.


Even assuming that there is a first cause, the argument utterly fails to address how we can know its identity. The assertion that it must be the particular God that the arguer has in mind is a complete non sequitur. Why not the deist God? Why not some kind of impersonal, eternal cosmic force? Why not shape-shifting aliens from another dimension? Why not a God that sends Christians to hell and atheists to heaven? Or maybe the simplest of all, why not the Big Bang as the first cause? There is nothing in the argument that would allow one to determine any attributes of the first cause. (You have failed to explain this problem over and over)

There is nothing in the argument to rule out the existence of multiple first causes. This can be seen by realizing that for any directed acyclic graph which represents causation in a set of events or entities, the first cause is any vertex that has zero incoming edges. This means that the argument can just as well be used to argue for polytheism. (You yourself say that machine have makerS with S)

Through modern science, specifically physics, natural phenomena have been discovered whose causes have not yet been discerned or are non-existent. The best known example is radioactive decay. Although decay follows statistical laws and it's possible to predict the amount of a radioactive substance that will decay over a period of time, it is impossible — according to our current understanding of physics — to predict when a specific atom will disintegrate. The spontaneous disintegration of radioactive nuclei is stochastic and might be uncaused, providing an arguable counterexample to the assumption that everything must have a cause. An objection to this counterexample is that knowledge regarding such phenomena is limited and there may be an underlying but presently unknown cause. However, if the causal status of radioactive decay is unknown then the truth of the premise that 'everything has a cause' is indeterminate rather than false. In either case, the first cause argument is rendered ineffective.


great post my friend, thanx.
couple of  books come to mind you should check out if you haven't already...


"Cycles of Time"  by Roger Penrose
"A Universe from Nothing" by Lawrence Krauss
4336  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: June 01, 2017, 12:18:56 AM
Badecker is a religious fanatic, of course he would deny evolution. He believes himself to be some kind of renowned scientist, he reinterprets and redefines scientific laws, he believes in God but he is not religious, he is a God himself as he knows God's will, he understands how God is and he is also kind to forgive us for our blasphemy. He might also talk to God and save us from his wrath if we maybe say that he is right and the rest of the world as we know it is not. He does with science the same that he does with his religion. He claims in its name but denies it. Some might say he is full of himself but I have to disagree. He is not full of himself. He is full of shit.
 Cool


It is a law of science that a simple theory is more plausible than a complicated one. Another law is that a plausible theory must adequately address the entire body of evidence. What is the plausible and simple theory/explanation for the 40 cases from AECES? Answer: Survival of the personality.
I perceive that non-survival explanations given by you are neither adequate, nor simple.

I'm sorry, but how did you link your answer with my post which was about Badecker? I need some time to read all those cases, research and give you my opinion on them, so you have no answer from me, yet you replied to my post about Badecker as if it were my opinion on that matter.
Thanks for reading the cases, they really are, in my opinion, some of the strongest proof available.
I am still waiting for a rebuttal for these cases, it must include an explanation that is simple and adequate, but to me it seems that survival is the most simple and adequate.

I am still waiting for a rebuttal of the top cases demonstrating the survival of the human personality after the demise of the physical body.

These observations strongly support the survival hypothesis. What do atheists and humanists have to say about the compelling evidence presented here?

How could a rational atheist explain this evidence?
There is not even one post of real discussion of the evidence by the pseudo-skeptics in this thread.
The 'skeptics' in this thread are embarrassing themselves when they should be examining the ideas presented above.

''some of the strongest proof available.'' Give me a fucking break, they are all bullshit. There is no real testable evidence for any of them, they rely on eye witnesses.

Eyewitness misidentification is the single greatest cause of wrongful convictions nationwide, playing a role in nearly 75% of convictions overturned through DNA testing.

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=22550

Everything is debunked there, many times. Don't post shit like this please.




Af newbie is an expert on mental health?
I am skeptical.  Cool

Have you read the link or are you going to try to avoid talking about it. You asked for arguments against your shitty proof and I delivered, do you have questions or perhaps there is something there that you don't agree with?
Did not find addressed the Eisenbeiss case listed as #1 on AECES. Many of the problems are not valid and rely on misdirection. For example it is a problem if a researcher "believes in God also" but prior beliefs are not exactly relevant to evaluating the presented evidence objectively. Also there was no plausible alternative hypothesis presented. Skeptics did not meet their burden of explaining the evidence simply and plausibly.

apparently qwik2learn is not exactly too qwik2learn   Grin
4337  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 30, 2017, 11:23:00 PM
 looks like its dropping a tad. must be because i just bought...never fails..
4338  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 30, 2017, 10:05:19 PM
i thought this was bitcoin wall observer thread ... hmmmm...i musta hit the wrong ethereum wrong button....
4339  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: May 29, 2017, 11:10:20 PM
Yes my friends despite what these guys think
 they are all wrong according to BADecker!

Seriously dude, you actually think I'm gonna read your nonsense about proof of some magical
sky fairy and then somehow think oh yeah all these dumb scientists are wrong because
BADecker has indisputable scientific proof that god exists.
 He says so right here in this bitcointalk thread. and he's been repeating it for past...oh idk 2 years, 24/7
so it must be true!! 

faceplant

Oh yeah almost forgot...DRINK!!  (or was that the other badecker delusionism thread?  idk... same difference so who cares)
4340  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 29, 2017, 08:10:51 PM
what a boring bulltrap

eth is so overpriced also

need a good old dump to start fresh

i wouldn't mind a little sideways action for more than a day tbqh...
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