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4341  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: [Diskusi] Berbagi Info Liquidity Pool AMM Semua Blockchain - ERC, BSC dll. on: April 20, 2021, 05:01:51 PM
Dalam beberapa hari terakhir saya menemukan pengalaman baru, metode scamming perlahan yang dilakukan oleh dev token.

1. Penipuan LP burning, jadi disini yang dibakar bukan LP tetapi token yang dikirim ke dead address
2. Penipuan Renounced, dimana scammer mengirim tokennya ke proyek yang memiliki liquidity lock panjang. Mereka mengatakan LP mereka dilock, aslinya yang di lock adalah token lain.
3. Token burning tapi di minted lagi oleh dev. mereka memang tidak bisa mengambil dari dead address, namun mereka minting saat pump dan langsung dump harga.

Dari dua kejadian ini, harap pastikan dulu apakah mereka benar dengan yang diposting atau tidak. Jangan ikut hype burning semata.
4342  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Akankah doge menyentuh 1$ suatu hari nanti ? on: April 19, 2021, 08:33:35 PM
kalau tahu harga akan lebih rendah lagi, maka sell sekarang bisa menguntungkan, namun market belum jelas, arahnya kemana (ane gak paham baca situasi) baiknya kita lihat dalam minggu ini.

Perubahan arah tren market saat ini rada sedikit bingungin bagi newbie kek saya. Analisa tiba2 berubah, atau emang ane yang kurang sabar. saat membeli doge di harga 700, saya pikir tren doge sudah akan berakhir, dan TP secepat mungkin. entahlah, kenapa elon seperti asik banget ngegoreng nih coin, dan masih banyak yang mau beli karena sinyal dia. tapi yang nekad adalah yang beruntung, apalagi yang mau hold 2 bulan terakhir.

4343  Other / Off-topic / Re: Tottenham Hotspur: Jose Mourinho Sacked on: April 19, 2021, 05:40:58 PM
I was expecting Tottenham board to keep him for another season then sack him if the result doesn't improve. It doesn't make sense to make a big change late in the game.


Maybe they don't want Tottenham to remain in such a bad position for the remainder of the last game. I think the board has a target to be able to play at UEL (at least), so they are considering sacking mourinho now. Although this is not a guarantee for tottenham to get to UEL in the final standings.

Maybe it true that Mourinho relies on star player with expensive purchases nowadays, so he failed to build a solid team like when he in Porto. I don't know.
4344  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BSC TOKEN] WHIRL Finance - a Multi-Coin Cryptocurrency Wallet on: April 19, 2021, 04:20:58 PM
Hello sir Where can I see the price of the Price of the Token Whirl? I want to try it for farming, of course I want to take the right position to take a buy position
You can check the price from CMC or Coingecko. or throught from this chart You can farm from Kindcow or https://whirlflashx.finance/

Make sure you are ready to pay tax 2% for every transaction (buy and sell) also for stake and unstake your Whirl. calculation are important to minimized your losses.
4345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 19, 2021, 07:51:15 AM
@Bitnity I said "also" its mean I agree if Milan have a big match same as Inter, IMO, the most important match for Milan Atalanta and Juventus, because I think Milan can win againts the rest, I know, Sassuolo and Lazio have a chance to defeat Milan, Torino can draw with Milan, but in my view, Milan have a chance to win vs Sassuolo, Lazio, Benevento, Torino and Cagliari. This is just my prediction ofc. Based on current Milan strenght, H2H maybe different also for reality results.
4346  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: April 18, 2021, 09:45:21 PM
Kita tidak bisa memperdebatkan hasil analisa, ini hanya akan menjadi perdebatan yang sia-sia. Karena, masing-masing memiliki sudut pandang yang berbeda dan memulainya dari mana. Jadi, baik MAAManda dan Dread Pirate Roberts memiliki relevansi masing-masing dari cara mereka menganalisa. MAAManda melihat short term, Dread mungkin melihat ke arah long term. Jadi ini adalah analisa masing-masing, ga perlu melihat mana yang relevan atau tidak. Bagaimana pun, prediksi tetap prediksi, jadi ga perlu saling mencari relevansi, mungkin akan lebih baik untuk mencari alasan terbaik analisa tersebut, jadi kita bisa belajar bareng. IMO
4347  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Deflationary Tokens on: April 18, 2021, 09:28:14 PM
These coins are majorly experimental tokens. Bomb was famous for this then. These days some BSC tokens that are majorly Meme are deflamatory tokens with burn rates. Safemoon, Safemars and the rest.

Yes, these coins are the ones that are successful on the BSC network, but you also need to know, be careful about arbitrage exchanges. There are those who complain that they are not profitable even though there is a considerable price difference between AMM and CEX, buy Safemoon from pancakes and sell them at Bitmart, besides losing tokens due to burn during transfer (tx tax), the trading fee for Safemoon is quite large, trader need to pay around $200 of all traded assets, valued at $ 2000
4348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 18, 2021, 09:12:06 PM
There is still a 9-point gap that must be achieved by AC Milan to at least equal Inter's points. The victory against Genoa, enough to make Milan reduce the points gap. However, there is still a long way to go, Inter had to lose 3 matches while Milan had to win in the next 3 matches. Something quite difficult, but maybe Milan can still achieve it. since Inter also have several big match moust be done.
4349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 16, 2021, 09:34:37 PM
I'm interesting with West Ham and Newcastle match for tomorrow's schedule. For Newcastle, this is an important match for them, because a victory will make them further away from the relegation zone. As for West Ham, a win might take them to 3rd place in the standings and this is a result that I think is extraordinary. If we remember last season, West Ham fighting to out from relegation zone  and lucky with their last 4 matches 😄
4350  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: April 16, 2021, 09:23:24 PM
Finally got to see the spectator at the stadium. 1000 supporters may seem a little, but this could be a good test in the midst of COVID. of course, it is too risky, but with a stadium capacity of more than 20 thousand, I am sure the officials can handle supporters in implementing distancing and health protocols. Life in Europe is much more disciplined (it seems) than the supporters in my country.
4351  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: April 16, 2021, 05:53:39 PM
Personally I can't bet on Tottenham as long as the players are in a hidden conflict with Mourinho so I think they will try to play for themselves and ignoring the fact that Mourinho is still their coach which may lead to a game with both team to score and most likely a draw. Spurs have no real desire to win this game ...the odd itself is telling us this.

Even though at the moment Tottenham player is having problems with his own coach, I don't think this is an excuse for players not to maximize the strategy provided by Mourinho. If indeed they still carry problems with Mourinho on the field, and do not carry out the instructions given, then Toteneham will be more difficult to get into the top 5 for UEL. If the match against Eveton fails to win again, maybe Mourinho has failed seriously

Edit: fixing quote
4352  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Hati-Hati dengan Proyek-Proyek DeFi on: April 16, 2021, 04:47:52 PM
Loh bukankah kalo ga kebagian tokennya, uang kita juga harusnya ga kekirim kesana ?
Btw singkatan dari IFO itu apa gan ?

Makanya, kasus ini seperti malfunction pada sistem, sehingga banyan peserta yang dirugikan karena tidak menerima refund.

IFO : Initial Farming Offering. selengkapnya https://s.id/zVcNo


Mengenai ApeSwap dan token farming lainnya, ini bukan tokennya yang dijadikan acuan, tapi profit yang didapat. saat ini ada banyak token mengadopsi tax, dimana ada biaya transaksi ada pula yang di burn. nah kalkulasi ini penting. Karena, jika pada akhirnya token semakin banyak diminati, dan staker makin besar maka nilai APY/APR staking juga makin turun. Jadi bayaran lancar bukan point utama, tapi profitnya.
4353  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Altcoins - XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, dll on: April 16, 2021, 04:40:20 PM

Sampai sekarang model-model aktifitas profit instan seperti ini masih juga memiliki peminat, padahal tidak ada jaminan buat mereka untuk bisa mendapatkan profit. Biasanya klo udah pada nyangkut baru merasa kapok.

Sekarang peminat semakin meningkat di jaringan BSC malah mas. Sejauh ini ane ga pernah seberuntung mereka sih, buyback juga dapatnya yang makin ndlosor.  Tapi, memang mereka sepertinya lebih siap kehilangan ketika menghadapi proyek rug, karena bisa jadi profit mereka sudah jauh melimpah ruah. Bagaimana pun, ini bukan trading yang sehat, kalau kita pakai uang panas, maka makin panas pula telinga kita dipojokin orang2 sekitar apalagi kalau hasil ngutang.

Entahlah, sekarang juga musim LP burn, tapi LP burn maupu. lock ini juga bukan jaminan bakal aman. banyan yang token di lock dan di burn, karena nilai LPnya kecil, dev masih profit banyak untuk kemudian ninggalin proyek tersebut.
4354  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Newbies you should catch these little scam tricks if you want to stay in crypto on: April 15, 2021, 10:35:25 PM
You are absolutely right, now many scammers create telegram clones to trick users. I've also been put in a fake group, luckily the scammers aren't really smart or newbie scammer maybe. When I'm has been added by scammer, I know the username, who is the admin and owner of the real group, and the scammer doesn't change anything that makes it similar to the real group and account owner. So that I can immediately leave that fake group.

Then, there are currently a lot of presales without a 3rd party, presale hosts just announce from telegram group. When we buy new tokens on the official group, we also have to be careful. Because, often scammers infiltrate by providing fake address presales. If we are not careful, then we will become victim to this kind of petty crime.
4355  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Altcoins - XRP, BCH, LTC, EOS, dll on: April 15, 2021, 09:19:21 PM
Dimasa bullish ini, banyak koin "zombie (tidak ada pembaruan pengembangan, hanya ada di exchange kecil, dan volume kecil)" yang digoreng, hampir tiap hari kita bisa menemukan koin zombie yang naik hingga 200% atau bahkan 1000% lebih. Semakin banyak yang FOMO semakin banyak yang kaya dan semakin banyak pula yang auto sangkut. Koin-koin ini pun variatif, mulai dari yang angkanya lumayan mahal bahkan ada juga yang koin kacang. Untuk token BSC sekarang musim token dengan harga $0.00000xxxx dengan suplai hingga Kuadrilion+, Ini juga hati-hati, walaupun kita sudah beli dip, token bisa makin tenggelam. Saya ngeri saat masuk koin ini meski dari candle sudah dibawah level harga pembukaan, bisa sampai jauh ke bawah. $100 kini jadi $16, wkk ngeri...
4356  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Hati-Hati dengan Proyek-Proyek DeFi on: April 15, 2021, 09:04:13 PM
Makin gila aja, ada IDO juga Grin
Legit tidaknya itu tergantung proyeknya gan, bukan tempat offeringnya.
Benar sekali, IDO/IFO ato apapun sebutannya, semua tidak menjamin bakal aman. Teman saya ada yang pernah ikut IDO Defi100 token, di BakerySwap, kenyataannya IDO mereka ga jelas dan banyak dari investor yang tidak mendapatkan token dan juga tidak direfund oleh mereka. Pengakuannya refund sudah beres, tapi tidak di lapangan. Bukan hanya pengakuan dari satu orang, namun banyak peserta IDO yang mengalami hal serupa.

Jadi, tetap berhati-hati saja, penyedia proyek hanya sebagai perantara, scam tidaknya proyek itu sendiri yang memiliki peran penting.
4357  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: April 15, 2021, 08:42:56 PM
'82 Mu still leading 1 goal over Granada, with 3-0 aggregate goal, MU now make sure their position to going to the next round. While AS Roma still need to make sure Ajax can't create 1 goal if they don't want to play in extra time. Hopefully Roma can keep their position now.

FULL TIME results:
Slavia Praha 0 - 4 Arsenal
MU 2 - 0 Granada
Villareal 2 - 1 Dinano Zagreb
AS Roma 1 - 1 Ajax
4358  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Burning cryptocurrency. on: April 15, 2021, 03:58:51 PM

Technically they can't, but my arguments are about changing the system. For example a bank can not close your account overnight and don't give you your money but they very well can if they wanted to. Or in ethereum terms they shouldn't have reversed all those valid blocks but nobody could prevent them from doing so.
Lets say a token with a huge burnt supply gains a high value, nobody can stop the ethereum foundation and Vitalik Butterin from creating a new fork to spend those burnt coins.
That's the problem with centralization.

thanks for your answer. So, if this happens, isn't that the coin will abandoned by the investor? If in the example of Ethereum do that, then I believe investors and the community will abandon the coin immediately. That's what I thought.

However, the Mint function of the token is what the user should be able to know. Because in tokens with this function, creators can freely mint tokens as he wants. So even if it is burned, the coins can increase if the developer wants to do this. Again, the consequence is that a big dump will occur, I guess only a scam developer would be willing to do this. But still can't imagine about using tokens from dead address.

At least, this is new knowledge for us, to careful about this possibility, if not ethereum, another coins may do that.
4359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ibrahimovic under FIFA and UEFA investigation on: April 14, 2021, 09:40:41 PM
Very bad news for Milan if Ibrahimovic gets banned from playing for 3-5 years in the European Competition (UCL / UEL) and competition organized by FIFA. This could be a sign that Ibra must retire early. However, I am quite confused by the amount of the fine, whether it is 100 million euros or only 100,000 euros. because in some media it says only 100,000 euros.
4360  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ETH and BSC on: April 14, 2021, 09:11:15 PM
BNB is not threatening ETH only because of ETH's high fees; although it helps.

Binance, the biggest crypto exchange in the world, is offering incentives for users to stop using ETH and start using BNB. that's a lot for ETH to compete with. Imagine what an altcoin project would pay for 24/7 advertising on every page of Binance. BSC gets this for free.

If you haven't noticed, DeFi/NFT users don't give a shit about decentralization. They only care that it's open and without KYC. CZ is taking advantage of that fact by offering a more centralized network, but the trade-off is that it's 100x more scaleable, cheaper and faster. A long criticism of ETH is: "If this is useful and successful, then competitors will simply fork it and offer it cheaper and faster" (ETH HAS NO PROPERTIES WHICH ARE IRREPRODUCIBLE). Oh, that's exactly what CZ did!

ETH devs have failed to provide a solution for scaling in 5 years. They've simply failed and now they need to deal with more competent competitors. If ETH fees go to $1 tomorrow, they'd still have a very significant challenge.

ETH fees are more likely to decrease because people stop using it than ETH devs do something innovative for scaling.

ETH 2.0 promising a solution for this, and people waiting for it. But, I'm afraid if this just a hope, because in reality too much delay from dev. In other side, BSC look like easy to change their token tx fee. Few weeks ago we need to pay 10 GWEI for transfer BSC tokens, and now it reduced to 5 GWEI. From this, I'm thinking about why BSC can do simple things like this, while ETH need to change entire network to fix current gas price issue.
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