Oh, I thought DNS seed was something along the lines of consult a main key domain such as for us devcoin.org or devcoin.com or devcoin.net and fine in its DNS somehow a whole list of IP addresses of nodes various people all over the net on gosh knows what domains of their own are running 24/7 as seed nodes.

So I was envisioning sometihng like maybe look up nodeip###.devcoin.com for values of ### starting at 001 and continuing until you reach one that does not exist, and each one will tell you the IP address of a different node somewhere out on the net.

I guess I will have to look at the code, if our old code even has DNS seeds in it, and based on what I see there look into setting up a bunch of DNS seeds on devcoin.org and devtome.org or whichever devsomething domains it is that I control, then plug into the hostnames used for that the IP addresses of some nodes that people are committing to run 24/7.

Or is that even what it means?

Maybe it isn't really some special tricky use of DNS at all, maybe all they really mean is that if you have the ability to look up names to resolve IP addresses, then you can name nodes in the code instead of having to put their IP addresses?

I am a little wary of doing DNS lookups because I0coin crashes regularly due to trying to look up an IP address, it seems it might be trying to do some kind of lookup by name of some node it somehow heard about, but the boost library crashes when the lookup fails.

It would be nice to know why only I0coin keeps crashing that way so as to avoid our adding of some need to look up names to other coins causing those other coins to start regularly dying like I0coin regularly does.

-MarkM-

I do not know what exactly a DNS seed is, what exactly it is that I have to set up at the DNS-provider, in the zone-records of the domains I want to put DNS seeds into.

Once I have all those set up I can look into putting them into the code if our old caode even has DNS seed support in it.

(If it doesn't I can just find IP addresses to put into the last resort IP addresses list that is in the code.)

-MarkM-

Wow what pool was that? I thought only bitparking merged-mined devcoins?

-MarkM-

You are looking at DVC/BTC column by the sound of it. Look at the DVC/USD or maybe the USD/DVC.

-MarkM-

Bitnickels have been around for years. Problem is they are lately worth over half a bitcoin each!

See http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/inbtc.html

( Linked to from main menu found at http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html )

-MarkM-

Since you it seems working on free open source hardware, I hope you are on the DeVCoin receivers lists for that? Or at least that your team is, or somesuch?

-MarkM-

Pizza was thousands of bitcoins, so look at it this way: you [may yet get] a 5 GHash miner for way way WAY less than a pizza! Plus a free single included! What a deal!!!



-MarkM-

Ease of interchange. They are eaisier to flip between than trying to flip between bitcoin and various forms of fiat.

Also unlike things like EVE Online currency, Lindens, World of Warcraft gold and such you can flip without worrying that some central authority is going to decide they don't like what you did with their currency thus confiscate it or reverse a transaction etc.

You gain some privacy for example by flipping between bitcoin and litecoin, but the more alternatives you have the more paths you have for such privacy and compounding such privacy.

Plus maybe if there are enough of them you could end up with only a few famous ones being checked looking for your wealth instead of a fully exhaustive check of all possible hiding places or transit routes for value being investigated.

-MarkM-

What is a DNS seed, exactly? Does it involve some special text-record entry in a DNS zone file or a bunch of A records or aliases or what?

Once we know we can put them into the DNS of all the devcoin-related domains.

-MarkM-

Okay lets start with "convince me it is broken".

As in "if it ain't broke don't fix it"...

Seems to work pretty good as it is.

-MarkM-

Yeah but holding litecoin is also likely to be very profitable - that is a large part of why mining it is likely to be.

If possible I'd hold the litecoin and dump some scamcoin or other for cash to buy a card.

Or fiat, of course. Dump fiat first.

-MarkM-

By the way you usually pronounce the ending d as a separate letter, instead of trying to figure out how to pronounce a word that happens to end in d: "mysql-dee", "system-dee", "bitcoin-dee", "devcoin-dee" etc.

-MarkM-

A daemon is basically what windows would refer to as a system service.

Or what DOS used to call a Terminate and Stay Resident (TSR) program.

Basically a program that drops into the background, disconnecting from the input/output streams you invoked them from. So that once you run the command, you get your command-line input back to type another command instead of having to wait for that program to stop before you can enter some other command (such as to run another program).

Devcoin fires up a whole GUI, as well as still keeping hold of "standard out" (stdout) and "standard error" (stderr) output streams and the "standard input" (stdin) input stream. If you run it from a text mode (command-line) console you will see the stuff it pours out to stdout and stderr, which is (at least mostly) the same stuff that it also sends to the debug.log file.

In unix one customarily puts a d at the end of the name of a program to indicate it is a daemon, thus the name devcoind for the daemon version. Devcoind actually acts not only like a daemon but also like a control-program used to send commands to a daemon. You run it with the -daemon switch to send it into daemon mode, or without the daemon switch to use it as a control-program for sending commands to the copy that you previously already sent into daemon mode.

Often, maybe usually, the control program for talking to a daemon is separate from the daemon program itself, for example the systemd daemon has a systemctl program used to send commands to it instead of including the control-program functionality into the systemd program itself.

Similarly, mysqld is the mysql daemon that is the actual resident database-system system-service whereas mysql is the client program used to send commands to the mysqld to actually create databases, look things up in databases and so on.

-MarkM-

See now that sounds better already.

-MarkM-

Not good enough; once the current signer gets run over by a bus it is too late to get them to sign over to someone else.

We use majority right now, that seems more robust though also has its own potential weaknesses presumably.

A majority of the files have to be identical. Its that simple.

-MarkM-

Too centralised. Hardforking on signing key would be a bitch.

Better to just get a bunch more places where the files are available.

-MarkM-

A bitcoin per 10,000 BBQcoin sounds like a decent price, I could sell a few hundred thousand BBQcoins for that price if anyone is interested in larger quantities.

-MarkM-

You didn't mention the receiver files. Maybe you simply happened to be in the same directory those files were in when you ran the devcoind? As one place they can be to work is wherever you are when you run the program. They then copy them over from there to their actual destination in a subdirectory of the data directrory. The other option is to specifically put them in that subdirectory yourself, which would usually mean you'd create the diata directrory create its subdirectory and put the receiver files there.

Obviously simplest, it is weren't for the difficulty of conveying to Windows users the concept of "current working directory" and how to put yourself in a particular directrory before running something, would be to make sure you are sitting where those files are when you first run the program.

-MarkM-

It has enjoyed the benefits of obscurity, just like bitcoin did in its early years.

-MarkM-

It also might have the fairest distribution, since it has not been limited to people with huge GPU farms; anyone has been able to pick some up all along even with just a CPU.

So it is one of the coins that have all along been providing the much asked-for feature of being accessible to ordinary machines without even needing a GPU.

-MarkM-