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4361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: April 14, 2021, 05:21:44 PM
Manchester United is a very experienced side in European competitions like this. They’ve been present in the Europa league for some recent seasons now while this is the first ever appearance for Granada, full excitement and less expectation. Gunnar Ole did a great job beating Granada away without conceding a goal. Granada is a no-match for Manchester United and I don’t see a miraculous comeback anywhere.
Yeah, MU one step away to going to next phase, now they just need to be draw. Also not bad for Granada even they are lose in this round, because some big clubs in history as UCL champions failed in previous round. They must be proud with any of their results.


I will support Roma for tomorrow, because I want to see Italian club going to Final or even become champions for this season. Spain dominating UEL few years back, now we need new champion, I wish they are from Italy.
4362  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Burning cryptocurrency. on: April 14, 2021, 02:03:43 PM
In a centralized cryptocurrency (ie majority of altcoins) this is trivial since the owners can simply change the protocol and make the coins they burnt spendable again. There is also the problem with their protocols that the burnt coins may not actually be burnt and due to exploits and security flaws those coins may already be spendable.

By the way burning tokens is a market manipulation technique to get that shitcoin to pump and nothing more.

Okay, so far I believe that tokens that have been sent to the burn address are tokens that cannot be returned by anyone. Examples of cases in ETH or BSC. When coins are sent to the dead address (on average sent to 0x000dead) can the ETH/BSC developer return all these tokens? Or can the smart contract withdraw the token sent to that address to be returned to the original address. Or is it that only the "potential" exploitation of the smart contract can bring it back?

Then, what if it is sent to 0x0000000 does this have the same system? Are there any examples of coins found doing this before, since I never know this case?
4363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 14, 2021, 01:49:25 PM
Arsenal are rumored to buy 4 players in the upcoming transfer window. Of the 4 names that were rumored, almost filled all the lines, here is player target for Arsenal
1. Mat Ryan will be permanent (GK) from loan status
2. Achraf Hakimi (RB)
3. Martin Odegaard to be permanent (AMF) from loan status
4. One player who is rumored to be filling in at left-back (no name has been explained)

Are these players the right players for Arsenal?
4364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: BNB price on: April 13, 2021, 09:36:17 PM
And also the announcement that it's going to have a burning a few days from now. That removes a number of tokens in the total supply of it in its own economy that will increase the price.
BSC + burning = price increase.

Burning tokens only have a short-term effect for token/coin prices. Sometimes this only gives a flash pump effect. Indeed, it can provide long-term value for "most projects", but the most important part of a token's fundamentals is its demand and usability. Like BNB, their burning managed to increase the price of the coin because currently the demand for BSC tokens is increasing. So burning became a significant fundamental and managed to bring BNB up and touch ATH $ 620. Even if burning was done, maybe BNB's price would not have been this high if BSC didn't really attract developers.
4365  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Hati-Hati dengan Proyek-Proyek DeFi on: April 13, 2021, 09:26:19 PM
Kalau DeFi itu yang ditawarkan farming, yang sudah kecium baunya. Tapi newbie masih kena juga.

Bukan hanya newbie sih yang kena mas, banyak pemain lawas yang juga kena rug proyek farming dan yang paling parah adalah flash pumpnya. Saya ingat bagaimana proyek yang mana 1 token dijual seharga sekitar 0.2 BNB saat awal peluncuran saat ini hanya berada pada kisaran $2-3. Di grup ini bukan hanya newbie yang nyangkut, tapi juga member yang sudah cukup lama bermain di DeFi. Jadi sangat wajar jika newbie juga ikut kejebak. Bisa juga karena newbie terjebak pada grup "degen-degenan" hingga akhirnya mereka lebih sering loss daripada profit.
4366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: April 13, 2021, 09:08:23 PM
Unfortunately, in the end, Bayern had to admit their defeat against PSG because of the away goals that were successfully made by PSG in the 1st leg. Bayern failed to take advantage of many opportunities, even though if there was one more goal they could score, then they had the right to qualify for the semifinals. But, PSG also deserve to being go to next round because of their brilliant performance on 1st leg.


Madrid vs Liverpool I think real madrid has an 80% chance of qualifying for the next phase considering Liverpool's current condition is difficult to play with their best performance. Winning 2 - 0 isn't easy for Liverpool to achieve.
4367  Other / Off-topic / Re: Two years on Bitcointalk and success.......... on: April 13, 2021, 03:24:13 PM
You have proven that "merit is not to be the first, but how you try to provide the best for the community is the main thing". I remember when you started on this forum, you were one of the newbies with rikafip who provided information about potential scams that members should stay away from. You are consistent with it, and I think a lot of members giving you a big thanks even not saying anything to you here. Well,  I congratulate you on your success and achievements. thank you to bring great information for community.
4368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: You won today, but then you will lose often on: April 13, 2021, 03:06:53 PM
Good for you if you managed to stop before risking everything. Knowing the bad side effects of this vice.

Got to be extra careful as due to being bachelor you'll easy to decide, and regrets comes after every mistakes, proper balance in anything
that you are planning to do in life.

It helps to survive and keeps you away from endangering not only your finances but also your physical and mental health.

Yeah, @OP made a really good decision when he stopped gambling. When he experienced significant losses and cost a lot of money, many people were trapped to continue betting. They are even willing to go into debt to gamble. In the end they are not only lost money, but also lost his family. Many people in my village got kicked out because they couldn't stop gambling and left a lot of money from debt. Hopefully the OP will get a job that can make his life better after quitting gambling.
4369  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: My crypto journey so far on: April 12, 2021, 09:44:26 PM
I dont think that by buying altcoins you are diversifying your portfolio.
All altcoins are highly correlated to bitcoin price, and if bitcoin fall all of them will (some coins will hold better for specific reasons, but they will also suffer)
Exactly, diversifying asset to altcoin maybe not good choice when they are also following BTC price. And yes, this is not for long terms. Diversify asset with altcoin will be working good when altseason. Like current market, if we are diversify our portfolio from January with ETH, BNB, DOGE, TRX, they already get huge profit than only in BTC.
But we must be remember, when BTC down, altcoin can be down more than BTC percentage like BTC down 0.4%, altcoin can be down for 8% or more.
4370  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Jangan Terpikat Janji Manis untuk melipat gandakan Uang dengan Mudah on: April 12, 2021, 09:23:25 PM
Memang sekarang ini sudah banyak model HYIP ataupun Investasi dengan kedok "Bitcoin" . Untuk teman teman disini yang sudah memahami hal seperti ini alangkah baiknya juga mengedukasi masyrakat ataupun saudara untuk jangan tertarik dengan investasti yang secara logika sendiri itu tidak mungkin pembagian profitnya ataupun yang mereka janjikan

Mengedukasi masyarakat tentu saja, kita bisa mengedukasi mereka. Namun kadang mereka yang diingatkan malah salah paham dengan niat kita. Tak sedikit orang yang kalau kita edukasi jawabannya malah nylekit
"Apa kamu ga mau liat aku sukses, banyak uang".

Jika sudah menemukan orang kek begini, mending kita saja yang mengalah, karena percuma juga kita ngeladenin dan mengedukasi mereka, hasil tetep bakal ngeyel.
4371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: April 12, 2021, 09:15:07 PM
snip

Ronaldo likely will not be sell by Juventus since they are still need him for the next season. If Allegri back to Juve, he will give important result for the next season, of course for Scudetto.

Messi, under laporta it will be come true to see him stay at Barcelona next season, but will see, since Barca have financial crisis maybe too hard to keep him.
4372  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kesalahan Umum Yang Dapat Menghilangkan Crypto Yang Anda Miliki on: April 11, 2021, 04:32:52 PM
Begini mas @celot stop loss pada futures ada 2 macam, yang pertama adalah mark price dan yang kedua adalah last price, kalau teman mas set SL dengan memilih mark price, maka ini akan mengikuti mark price terakhir, yang artinya bisa jauh lebih murah keangkatnya. Misal, set mark price BTC pada harga $6000 untuk SL, pada saat last price $5950 bisa saja masih mark price $6050, akan beda kalau mas set SL dengan last price, maka harga terakhir jika kurang atau sama dengan harga set pada SL maka akan otomatis keangkut. misal kita stop loss di last price $6000, namun harga terdekat dari $6.000 buy/sell order $6980, maka akan langsung stop di $6980 tersebut.


Kotak: mark price
Bulet: Last price

CMIIW
mungkin mas @roycilik bisa jelasin lebih detail yang pengalaman di futures
4373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BSC TOKEN] WHIRL Finance - a Multi-Coin Cryptocurrency Wallet on: April 11, 2021, 12:33:45 AM
Whirl team updated their website to https://whirlfinance.io, and add $20.000 for Liquidity and locked for 1 Year. They are also locked 26M Whirl for 6 months allocated for future development. More info can be found here https://twitter.com/FinanceWhirl/status/1380123007520137220?s=19

DYOR & DWYOR
4374  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Hati-Hati dengan Proyek-Proyek DeFi on: April 10, 2021, 11:39:21 AM
Memang lebih baik kalau farmingnya di pool atau proyek yang udah jelas, karena ino akan jauh lebih aman. Cuma, pada hakekat manusia memiliki kebiasaan berbeda, itu yang membuat mereka tertarik untuk mencoba proyek baru anon karena menawarkan reward lebih tinggi. Salah satunya ada komunitas yang ane ikutin, mereka cenderung memilih proyek baru untuk farming karena APYnya yang masih tinggi. Selama sudah balmod, mereka membiarkan farming berjalan. Mereka ini tipe pencari proyek dengan metodw "high risk high return". Kalau ane sih sudah cukup kena rugnya, jadi dah ga ngikutin mereka, karena menurut saya ini butuh modal besar yang ga pantas untuk saya ikutin. Daripada ikut makin nyesek dengan rug apalagi ada banyak token yang mencuri dari smartcontract, alhasil makin ngeri aja bagi saya pribadi.
4375  Economy / Reputation / Re: KICKICO-KickEx:Legit business or scam in making? on: April 09, 2021, 05:45:27 PM
But imagine how much trading you have to do in order to unlock those tokens, especially if you are small time trader, and only those will go through something like this to get few dozens of dollars worth of tokens. Since they are probably not an experienced traders, they will probably end up loosing more through trading than those tokens are worth.


I can't imagine anymore, even though it looks tempting, with the current ETH gas price, it will make us more and more losing. We never know where this token price will end. So, it is better for this tokens to have value in the wallet than we are forcing, but when all the tokens are unfreeze, that tokens cannot be sold at a high price, as we know this is just pump and dump, we don't know where the price will be stopped.
4376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: April 09, 2021, 04:49:23 PM
The controversy behind Fernandes' penalty for being violated by Eteki, in my opinion, MU deserves to win. MU controlled the game, they were superior to the players.

Granada is still far below the quality of MU players, so it is not surprised for us to see MU dominates the game. However, despite this result, Granada has a good enough motivation to provide a fight against MU. Maybe in the 2nd leg, Granada will make it difficult for MU again even though they are already in a difficult position to win 3-0 to qualify for the next round.
4377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Motosport General discussion tread --- Formula1, MotoGP, WTCC, ETCC, DTM..... on: April 09, 2021, 02:19:56 PM
The MotoGP team landed to Indonesia to see work process on the Mandalika Circuit, Lombok, Indonesia. According to the post on Facebook, Indonesia is likely to host this event in 2022. Hopefully everything will go as the plan, even though I can't watch it live there, of course this will bring pride to all Indonesians.



Source MotoGP FB Pages
4378  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Trust wallet yang ngirim busd ke alamat contrak lain dengan sendiri on: April 09, 2021, 01:54:02 PM
Btw belum ada atau memang gak ada ya solusinya agar kontrak yang bisa ngambil busd sendiri itu bisa kembali ke pemilik aslinya.
Seperti yang disebutkan oleh khiholangkang, tidak ada cara untuk melakukan pengembalian. Bahkan untuk saat ini, saat saya tanya ke tim unrekt, sulit untuk mendeteksi token mana yang mampu mengambil token target. Mungkin ada, tapi butuh riset kontrak yang lebih mendalam yang saat ini diluar kapasitas tim unrekt. Makanya sekarang saya lebih suka gunain wallet baru dengan nilai kecil untuk mengantisipasi hal ini. kalaupun ada token yang tiba2 mahal, saya milih unrekt token lain daripada ganti wallet.
4379  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Hati-Hati dengan Proyek-Proyek DeFi on: April 09, 2021, 01:37:47 PM
Farming kok masih rame ya? Padahal sudah jelas-jelas ga masuk akal buat token-token anon/geje. Duit ga bisa dipetik gitu aja dari pohon bung Grin
Apa si yang bikin awet, tiap kali liat ANN baru ada aja farming-nya.

Staking + Farming = Lengkap sudah.

Karena asyik buat gandain cuan mas, makanya makin marak farming sekarang, tapi, kalau pinter ngambil peluang, banyak yang autosultan dengan token kaya gini. Cuma mereka juga kehilangan banyak modal ketika kena jebakan proyek rug. Koin macam ini gorengannya ngeri soalnya.
4380  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [INFO] Signature Campaign [Hanya Pembayaran Bitcoin]| Ter-Update !!! on: April 08, 2021, 11:31:56 PM
om nya aja juga lompat-lompat tuh, kemaren gambar hiu emas sekarang gambar kita sama awkakwkawk...


Loncat-loncat yang dimaksud adalah member yang sudah memiliki signature untuk proyek lain dan memutuskan pindah ke proyek lainnya, disaat kampanye di proyek sebelumnya masih belum selesai dan manager juga tidak mendepak peserta dari kampanye yang diikuti oleh member tersebut. Memang tidak ada landasan atau aturan yang sudah menggunakan signature tidak boleh pindah, tapi ini menyangkut kesetiaan peserta campaign. Kalau memang kampanye berakhir dan member berganti signature itu bukan loncat-loncat namanya. Pada akhirnya manager akan mempertimbangkan kembali mana peserta kampanye yang memiliki loyalitas pada satu kampanye untuk didahulukan dipilih daripada mereka yang sering out saat kampanye masih berjalan dan ini yang disebut dijadikan cadangan oleh mas roycilik.
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