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4361  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: May 21, 2017, 10:26:01 PM
Even if they track him down the govt have Nfi how to recover the funds, they never return anything to the original holders anyway.

Just like any other ponzi scam the govt keep the funds Vern goes to a country club for few years as a white collar criminal and drinks pina coladas on the beach as he siphons the wallets afterwards.

It is ok for the govt to tax everyone into oblivion and chase you for a few hundred you claimed as write offs after paying 40% + income tax but trying to find a thief who stole millions they are not even interested.

The govt know every phone call, internet web page and credit transaction you do now.

I find it strange none of cryptsy employees know anything, where are they, no one has any credit card references to travel logs, receipts or passport records?

Yeah right he just vanished into the ether like fricking Keyser Soze.

What an absolute load of BS...

Funny that you evoke Keysaer Soze in this space.

Read the first sentence here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyser_S%C3%B6ze#Concept_and_creation

Then read what follows the quoted following found here: http://cinetropolis.net/christopher-mcquarrie-gets-verbal-on-the-usual-suspects/

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Let’s talk about this film relationship to these other crime films.


well now I'm gonna hafta watch "The Usual Suspects" again.... Popcorn Time! (awesome app btw)

oh yeah ... hey bigvern cryptsy bitcoin thief scumbag...you suck (gotta stay on topic)
4362  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: May 21, 2017, 08:06:31 PM
Even if they track him down the govt have Nfi how to recover the funds, they never return anything to the original holders anyway.

Just like any other ponzi scam the govt keep the funds Vern goes to a country club for few years as a white collar criminal and drinks pina coladas on the beach as he siphons the wallets afterwards.

It is ok for the govt to tax everyone into oblivion and chase you for a few hundred you claimed as write offs after paying 40% + income tax but trying to find a thief who stole millions they are not even interested.

The govt know every phone call, internet web page and credit transaction you do now.

I find it strange none of cryptsy employees know anything, where are they, no one has any credit card references to travel logs, receipts or passport records?

Yeah right he just vanished into the ether like fricking Keyser Soze.

What an absolute load of BS...

Excellent analysis.

Keyser Soze, LMAO.  Grin

that does kinda sum up the whole debacle nicely. i had to google that keyser dude...oh yeah usual suspects... excellent flick!

(btw next batch of ledgers will ship june 9 from their website.
they accept bitcoin (of course).
they are the best hw wallet imo .  not surprised amazon sold out)

4363  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 21, 2017, 02:07:49 AM


Wrong.
Science is not a religion. You say that theories are acknowledged by scientists to not be facts?
Well that's the very difference between theories and theorems... But only few theories remain. Most science aspects have been proven right now.

Could you give an example of a scientific theory that is not proven? Cause the only ones I see are... Well no scientist "believe in them" they just find those theories interesting and we think it MIGHT be the answer but that's all.

I agree with you that science is not religion. So you are wrong with your "wrong," because I didn't say that science is religion.

Belief in science theory as fact is religious belief.

Looks like you didn't say that the first time.
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If science theories had been proven, they would be science laws. The fact that they remain theories shows that they have not been proven.
Most of them are laws yeah... Do you have an example of what is called a theory and not a law?
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People who believe unproven things to be fact, have religion going for themselves. Science theories are not religion. Only the people who believe that they are factual when it is not known, are the people who have a religion going for themselves in the science theories.

Cool

Nobody says that...
I don't understand what you're saying...

I had been accused of saying that science is religion. I was using the statement Science theories are not religion to show that I understand that not even science theory is religion.

Look at it this way. Imagine that a sculptor makes a little statue. He carves it out of stone, or maybe even wood. It is a nice little statue. Is it religion? Of course not.

If people start to worship the little statue, they have a religion regarding the little statue. The statue itself is not religion. Yet, the worshipers have a religion regarding the statue.

In a similar way, science and science theory are not religion. But if people "worship" science theory by calling it truth when it is not known to be truth, they are starting into their own religion regarding the science theory involved. And their religion is exceptionally religious if they KNOW that the theory has not been proven to be fact, but they treat it as fact anyway.



Big bang, relativity, evolution, and black hole theories are not known to be factual. They are not laws.

Big bang is not known to be something that could exist. But if it were know to be possible, it still would not be known to have been the way the universe came about.

Relativity still has strong opposition in other things. It is not known to be fact.

Evolution should have been dropped as theory long ago. The whole thing is just stories, most of which do not fit what has happened. But if the stories fit, there are other things that fit as well, making evolution something that should not even be considered theory.

Black holes exist. Black hole theory tries to explain them. So far, nobody knows if the theory fits what is actually happening in a black hole. Black holes are fact. Black hole theory is not known to be fact.


People who know that theories are not necessarily factual, but believe them to be factual, must be betting in the lottery a lot. For them, science theory is like a religion. If they are adamant "believers," the theories are a religion for them.

Cool

Holy extra big bundle of bollocks Batman!!
Gonna need an extra large bottle of chunky badecker blue cheese drivel dressing
to drizzle all over that gigantic tossed word salad....


That's okay. Your religion is a good thing for you. Thanks for expressing it.

Cool

just to clarify.. and I'll say it reeeeeal slow....
I   don't    have     a      phucking               stupid          religion       ...got it?

you retarded delusional willfully ignorant arrogant godswill-evangelizing full of bollocks pious preaching  evolution science denying jerk.
but i still love ya dude!!
how's that for expressing my non-religion?
4364  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: May 21, 2017, 01:46:34 AM

Not only is probability math science law, but it is one of the foundational pieces of physics in the universe. Probability math, alone, shows us that evolution is impossible.

Can you win the lottery if you are only 1 in 10 million people playing? Yes, you can. The odds are that you won't.

The odds against evolution is so great that ... forget it.


False, if that was the case no scientist would support evolution:
''1987 estimate found that "700 scientists ... (out of a total of 480,000 U.S. earth and life scientists) ... give credence to creation-science".[23] A 1991 Gallup poll found that about 5% of American scientists (including those with training outside biology) identified themselves as creationists.[24][25]
This simply shows that most scientists have not deeply considered probability math. In fact, most scientists probably have not deeply considered evolution, but simply have accepted the conclusions of fellow scientists, often without even meeting or knowing those fellow scientists.


You keep mentioning probability math. What is your point, what probability are you talking about?

The thing we were talking about is evolution. What are the odds that the atoms and molecules that make up a simple living cell could come together in just the right places to form what a living cell would be? The odds against this happening even once are literally impossible.

Add to this the proper motions for each and every atom and molecule so that the cell can be alive, and you have another big impossibility.

Add to this the fact that any "soup" that we can envision that would allow the above to happen, would immediately kill the new living cell. This means that the cell would have to be ejected from the soup at exactly the time it formed and became alive. This is another impossibility.

But, if the above happened, it would have to happen over and over each time there was an advancement in the cell, to the next level of evolution.

The probability math odds against this happening even once are so strong that it is impossible, and impossible, and impossible, beyond any chance of a possibility. Do the math.

Cool

you sir are so willfully phucking ignorant it is beyond comprehension.
for chrissakes get outta your delusional  echo chamber .and do some research on these subjects you crow about.
oh no wait a minute never mind..you wont listen to the real science. you got yer fingers in your ears if it goes against your retarded fairy tale beliefs.

4365  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool on: May 21, 2017, 12:46:20 AM
I have to wait a week or more for payout free money this fucking bullshit. (fify)

great attitude there bud...lemme guess...you have issues with road rage?
4366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HLM] HELIUM - PRE NOTICE on: May 21, 2017, 12:09:51 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong...my understanding is at time of snapshot, your helium coins allotted will be equal to your current balance of spreadcoin at the exact instance of snapshot?
Or is there  a certain window of time after snapshot that you can buy /mine more spreadcoin and still have those credited toward your helium allotment?   (I know, that's kinda sneaky eh? )
If not (which is what I'm guessing is the case)
will there be an ann of the time of snapshot before it happens. Because that is undoubtedly gonna
spike the price of Spread and currently I'm waiting (as I'm sure many others are too) for a good buy in price and don't want to be
caught waiting when snapshot (ann) occurs.
hey i know!  maybe have a pre ann for the ann.  Cheesy Grin
4367  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: May 20, 2017, 06:11:46 PM

Time to buy a Trezor wallet.  Cry Cry Cry

i just got a Ledger myself.  Love it. On my key ring . don't think you can do that with a Trezor
4368  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 20, 2017, 06:01:01 PM
bitcoin market behaving like typical bitcoin market...taint nuthin but a thang
so here's my prediction for this date next year (ill quote this post in a year to see how close i am  on 5/20)


 feb 9 of 2018 will be  ... $1850  ( fyi...just pulled that # outta my arse from watching price for past 3 years...and  i'm a hodler)

never been so happy to have been so wrong, even if it was my arse I extracted that gem from Cheesy   (please excuse my conceited self quoting)
4369  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 19, 2017, 09:28:01 AM
2001  ..A Bitcoin Odyssey

incoming  (meme)
4370  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 19, 2017, 01:43:00 AM
kinda weird this is still up on youtube.
Needless to say, seems as if his humongus scammy-ass footprint is and will be splashed across the intertoobz for all eternity.
So if someone does do some sorta periscope vid thing for court date, how about scoring it with  this .Now that would be epic...ya think?!

"This music video is intended for mature audiences who are tired of losing against crypto-currency villains" 
 ROF!!


 I often wonder if homero is still <grinning> these days.   I sure do and then some when I stumble on shit like this among many others.
 (then again I thankfully wasn't a sucker victim...I think I even made a couple of satoshis, but that's a story for another day.......)


 

Ahahaha... I have to again take credit for the best Homero scammer <grinning> gif ever...




how'd you know i was lookin for that one? LOL. thanx owl!
4371  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: May 19, 2017, 01:32:56 AM
Did you realize on your own that animals don't invent Gods or you needed help from your cult? I can enumerate you a shitload of things plants and animals do not do, you would be surprised to find out there are differences between us and other living beings. But bravo, your discovery that animals and plants do not praise gods will change the world as we know it, you little genius. On a more serious manner, I know you cultists see yourselves as gods walking the earth, I already said that about you. That's what makes you a fanatic in the first place. On the other hand, no, I do not see myself as a God among nature because I am aware of the reality of things. We reach a conclusion however: you said nature is beyond what mankind can think, therefore God exists. That is false, what is beyond what mankind can think is called supernatural, you should know that. And no, supernatural does not necessarily mean God. It means supernatural and you need evidence to prove that a certain supernatural is a God. That is the flaw in your mindset. That's the 'apology'. Not being able to understand something and immediately calling it God, because you've been taught since birth about God, you grew up in a culture that praises God, your brain is in big difficulty when put to work on rational, scientific things, without implying that a God exists. You are a victim of religion. Do you know what the real issue for most of the islamic immigrants is? They suddenly realized the possibility of the non existence of an after life. That kind of makes them want to live this life, not end it and risk it. The same that gave birth to Gods will also be able to 'kill' them as a 'rule' and keep them as a myth. And I am talking about mankind. It won't happen too soon because, as we can see, religious people know how to 'go with the wave' in order to keep the myth alive. That is why instead of simple, classical christians you now have deists, theists, creationists, and many other ramifications. They don't have an identity anymore because they need to adapt the lie to the modern world and its discoveries. If it was true in the first place, it would have stayed the same.

I am a little curious. Is there any scientific proof for or against the existence of God in all your religious blabber up there? No? I didn't think so.



If you are new to the forum, you can see the scientific proof that God exists here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.

Cool
I am a little curious of how and why did you ever thought of God, my dear imbecile hypocrite. Did you climb out of your mothers womb and yelled God? Were you in kindergarten and suddenly a thought sprung in your mind 'This chaos must have been created, I'll call the creator God'. Or maybe you were baptized, taken to church, taught about the religion in  which you grew, the very same religion that taught you in the first place that a God exists? You keep bitching about the lack of scientific proof or disproof in my comments, as if you would have any scientific material in any shit that you post. Not only a hypocrite, but also a liar, by claiming to be a physicist and a biologist. My question for you is why do you deny and run away from the religion that has taught you about God? And more important, in what God do you believe?

You may know that by ignoring these two questions it will only make a liar out of you, a fraud, a guy who writes here only to sustain his activity on the forum. That, or a really imbecile hypocrite who knows that he would have no chance to make people believe in God by the very same thing that gave birth to a God, religion, and tries what many apologists try: stick with the science, that works for the youth today. You sick fuck. Answer thosse two questions and it will get more scientific than you would ever hope for.
Indoctrination is so strong that most people do not even know why they believe in the nonsense they believe.

They just believe no matter if it is true or even remotely makes sense.

I think the fear of punishment is what keeps their belief alive.

Ask them where is God? And watch them internalize their incoherent world view.

Sometimes BADecker says God exist outside of this universe, sometimes he says he is hiding in people's souls. Lol...

The real answer is they don't know where God is or what he is.  All made up concept, refined as required.

Well said. The fear of punishment is what kept them in there, a form of legal and spiritual slavery. To know that you are owned and if you do not obey, the big one is going to be really angry about it. I also think there is one more fear keeping them inside, a hypocrite one: the fear of being wrong, the fear that your whole life was a lie. It is a flawed thought that one can not change later. Some say that religion is built inside the human, that it is something that we feel the need for. Well, that does not make it good. We also had and still have a killing instinct inside of us, it doesn't mean we should follow it.

This is almost the complete reason that Horacewoodwood continually resorts to religion rather than science in a science topic. Of course, there is his troll pay, as well.

Because of this, science is a religion for him.

Cool
You still have not answered two simple questions that I have asked and all you do is try to find a scapegoat. And it is all so simple, you can not ever answer those questions. Because your linage is religion, your God is your religion. You won't ever deny it, you little slave, because you are not allowed to do so. What you will always do is try to make it look like I am off topic. The truth,the one that you try to hide, is that it is impossible for any human being that believes in God to scientifically prove God without going through religion. That is because religion is the one that brought up a God story in the first place. Denying religion as a believer is the same as denying cause and effect, the principle that you base your proof on. So, there either is a God, or there isn't. And if there is one, it is one that belongs to a religion, because that is how Gods appeared, it is a fact. If you deny religion, you deny God. If you don't, you will have to answer some questions. This is a yes or no, not a maybe, unless God is a maybe for you and we get to the point of 'why the fuck do we even bother'. Until you answer you are nothing but a fraud, a cultist, a fanatic, a retard, an apologist, etc. All of these because you have no clear pathway regarding your position about God.

Are you religion? No. You are fact. The evidence and proof is in the fact that you are posting here. Delete all your posts and your account, and it might be difficult proving that you are fact.

However, believing the things you say, especially if their is no way to prove them, is religion.

Somebody might read your blabber. But if you don't do a little like a scientist, and split it up so that people can see what you are talking about, who cares?

The proof for God has been shown. Your religious attitude is being shown every time you blabber. Perhaps you can get into science sometime. But if you don't, who cares?

Cool

BADecker does not address the question as usual and since he has no rebuttal, he just simply claims Horace's
perfectly understandable logical posts are "babble".
that's ironic because badecker has taken the art of posting babble
to a whole new level . just read this thread.  its 95 per cent badecker babbling biblical bollocks bullshit beliefs interspersed with
rational posts calling him out at every turn.
4372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 19, 2017, 01:03:51 AM


Wrong.
Science is not a religion. You say that theories are acknowledged by scientists to not be facts?
Well that's the very difference between theories and theorems... But only few theories remain. Most science aspects have been proven right now.

Could you give an example of a scientific theory that is not proven? Cause the only ones I see are... Well no scientist "believe in them" they just find those theories interesting and we think it MIGHT be the answer but that's all.

I agree with you that science is not religion. So you are wrong with your "wrong," because I didn't say that science is religion.

Belief in science theory as fact is religious belief.

Looks like you didn't say that the first time.
Quote

If science theories had been proven, they would be science laws. The fact that they remain theories shows that they have not been proven.
Most of them are laws yeah... Do you have an example of what is called a theory and not a law?
Quote

People who believe unproven things to be fact, have religion going for themselves. Science theories are not religion. Only the people who believe that they are factual when it is not known, are the people who have a religion going for themselves in the science theories.

Cool

Nobody says that...
I don't understand what you're saying...

I had been accused of saying that science is religion. I was using the statement Science theories are not religion to show that I understand that not even science theory is religion.

Look at it this way. Imagine that a sculptor makes a little statue. He carves it out of stone, or maybe even wood. It is a nice little statue. Is it religion? Of course not.

If people start to worship the little statue, they have a religion regarding the little statue. The statue itself is not religion. Yet, the worshipers have a religion regarding the statue.

In a similar way, science and science theory are not religion. But if people "worship" science theory by calling it truth when it is not known to be truth, they are starting into their own religion regarding the science theory involved. And their religion is exceptionally religious if they KNOW that the theory has not been proven to be fact, but they treat it as fact anyway.



Big bang, relativity, evolution, and black hole theories are not known to be factual. They are not laws.

Big bang is not known to be something that could exist. But if it were know to be possible, it still would not be known to have been the way the universe came about.

Relativity still has strong opposition in other things. It is not known to be fact.

Evolution should have been dropped as theory long ago. The whole thing is just stories, most of which do not fit what has happened. But if the stories fit, there are other things that fit as well, making evolution something that should not even be considered theory.

Black holes exist. Black hole theory tries to explain them. So far, nobody knows if the theory fits what is actually happening in a black hole. Black holes are fact. Black hole theory is not known to be fact.


People who know that theories are not necessarily factual, but believe them to be factual, must be betting in the lottery a lot. For them, science theory is like a religion. If they are adamant "believers," the theories are a religion for them.

Cool

Holy extra big bundle of bollocks Batman!!
Gonna need an extra large bottle of chunky badecker blue cheese drivel dressing
to drizzle all over that gigantic tossed word salad....

4373  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) on: May 19, 2017, 12:45:49 AM
kinda weird this is still up on youtube.
Needless to say, seems as if his humongus scammy-ass footprint is and will be splashed across the intertoobz for all eternity.
So if someone does do some sorta periscope vid thing for court date, how about scoring it with  this .Now that would be epic...ya think?!

"This music video is intended for mature audiences who are tired of losing against crypto-currency villains" 
 ROF!!


 I often wonder if homero is still <grinning> these days.   I sure do and then some when I stumble on shit like this among many others.
 (then again I thankfully wasn't a sucker victim...I think I even made a couple of satoshis, but that's a story for another day.......)


 
4374  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 14, 2017, 03:43:02 PM
note how in that definition posted above, nowhere are the words "evidence" or "reason" ....
small wonder...when it comes to religion, there is neither

4375  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2017, 11:44:07 PM
CHOOO CHOOOO.  Cool

I'm glad I hopped back on the train at $1750

I guess we are headed for $2k in a matter of a couple weeks or less?

I still think a correction can come at any moment in the next few weeks, but I will enjoy the ride up while it lasts!

Congrats hodlers, it looks like the rally isn't over yet!



well truth be told, the rally actually started on   2009-01-09 02:54:25
and has been going strong ever since....
4376  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2017, 02:48:08 AM
if 1610 doesnt hold, you've got open air to 1350

open air?...breath deeeep
bitcoin  gonna be fine
 1800 on wednesday . i know ...says so right here on my tea leaves..

Good job, black cat.

yeah.. used to have a black cat. he brought me much luck,
and now I'm a btc hodler... might have to get me another
4377  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 13, 2017, 02:21:57 AM
I never really hated religion. It always amused me that otherwise rational adults could believe in
the equivalent (in rational terms) of a santa claus or a tooth fairy albeit an invisible sky daddy, aka GOD.
When pious delusional folks start besmirching science by posting mindless drivel 24/7 on bitcointalk threads 
claiming science proves god exists..well then... I hate religion

incoming BADecker drivel in 3...2...1...
4378  Other / Off-topic / Re: Scientific proof that God exists? on: May 13, 2017, 01:54:46 AM
Of course, big bang has never been proven.

Not only has it not been proven to be the source of the universe, but it has not even been proven to be something that is possible. We are so far from proving big bang, that even if it were proven to be possible, it still would have to be proven to be the way things came about.

Theories are changing. There are 3 major big bang theories. There are 4 major black hole theories. None of the black holes produced from the black hole theories could fit into any of the big bang universes produced from any of the big bang theories. The theories just don't match up mathematically.

Science has a long way to go to even suggest that the pile of BB math that they have is anywhere near close to reality.

Cool

Citation for that crock of shite you just posted? .
..right then chaps...  get ready to drink!!


It's spelled Shiite, but if I were Muslim, I'd rather be a Sunni.

 Grin

Ok, let me just spell it out for you, as obviously you have no phuking clue about terminology outside of your little nutshell you live in.
So in England (that's another country across the Atlantic Ocean) "shite" is slang for "shit" ,and its spelled "shite" . Got it?
Muslim, Shiite and Sunni are completely irrelevant to my post. Just goes to show how clueless you are. But then again
based on your post history here, that's really no surprise.
4379  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2017, 01:18:10 AM
if 1610 doesnt hold, you've got open air to 1350

open air?...breath deeeep
bitcoin  gonna be fine
 1800 on wednesday . i know ...says so right here on my tea leaves..
4380  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 13, 2017, 12:23:42 AM
It was less than two days ago that we kept on hitting new ATHs on stamp. It's only down by $90 from the $800 we were at then. Bitcoin's becoming so valuable that one or two hundred dollars down is a small  necessary correction.

fify
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