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4361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New Normal Game Setup - a success or a failure? on: October 19, 2020, 11:57:40 AM
In my opinion, the new normal games setup that is currently running is quite successful, because some of the sports leagues are already active.
Even though there are still some shortcomings it is normal, because to be able to run perfectly it still takes time. The most important thing is
that we as sports fans can watch our favorite team or player can play again. And also we can start playing sports betting again, because some
sportsbook sites are re-opening.
True the important thing here is that they're active, back in action, and that viewers could once again watch what they love. Still though, one of the failures in the new setup would probably be the best players in a team being diagnosed with the virus, therefore being unable to play, thereby having a match between a perfect team and a team filled with subs and therefore, filled with holes. I saw someone post here about something like that, not sure if it was a friendly match or not, but nonetheless you get my point.

It wasn't a failure but not also a 100% success by then. It needs more adjustment and more time to finally adopt the new normal, is a thing that no one around is shouting loud but all of them are just watching on TV or on the internet live. The game must have to continue despite these huge changes, though it wasn't really lively to see but that is what we have today. Social distancing, limited numbers of allowed person to get inside, we have nothing to complain because that is the protocol and we have to follow it.
Well, a compromise is something that is quite normal here tbh, if they were able to implement this new setup perfectly then I'd have to really bow down to them. Nothing that we can do about it though, it isn't like there's a huge riot over the new setup, and I'm pretty sure most of us know how difficult it is for even the new setup to be done.
4362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: October 19, 2020, 06:32:37 AM
Is there even a need for a reason for making it as an "enjoyment"? It's like asking something, why do you do that, do you do this, do you want to be that kind of thing. We want it cause we want to, there's really no need to overcomplicate reasons or whatever. We enjoy gambling because we enjoy it, that's my take on to gambling I suppose.

However the successful stories of those gamblers are making more sound than those who always lose.

Yet, success are really a great story to tell. It is not easy to get into that title being lucky and win especially great prizes or great winnings. Thus making it other gamblers to to try their luck and in return they tend to lose but somehow occassionally will be able to win and that motivate them to play more to get more chance in winning huge prizes.

Thi is one of the reason in getting addiction of gambling. however, there are only few people are getting addicted because all of us had common sene that we could not give in into that situation without considering our priorities in life
Aren't they made into "stories" because they were successful? Let's be real here, who would even listen to a story of a man losing to gambling? That's like our everyday lives, no one wants to listen to that, sure if you add a bit of sob story elements some may read it, but that's it. But success? Now that's a story most would be willing to read, why? Because they want to be one, they want to be like the guy that was successful. Do remember that successful stories are just 1 in a million stories out there, but only that 1 is told because it's a unique instance, and not an instance that could regularly occur.

4363  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did bitcoin lose its value? on: October 19, 2020, 05:52:21 AM
The price being stagnant doesn't automatically equate to it losing value. Doesn't that mean that the various currencies that have been stagnant actually has no value at all? I guess you could say that Bitcoin would only lose its value once the demand for it is all gone, but with it being described as a currency, it is unlikely to happen. And additionally, there's no need to correlate USD and Bitcoin imo, they don't have much of a relation aside from being both currencies.

Additionally, you also said about the Fed printing money to address the pandemic, but Bitcoin did not do that. The supply currently being mined right now is just a part of the program that was set up in the beginning, and even with the pandemic or not, said process would still continue on.
4364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has the properties of an employment opportunity on: October 19, 2020, 05:05:31 AM
This is simple advertising, that's it, there's no need to put so much emphasis on how it could help you or whatnot. Yes, you're technically getting employed for your services, specifically to spread their name (whatever bounty you're in) across the forums through the use of signatures, but that's it, it isn't even an official employment, the funds you get wouldn't even be enough for you to live comfortably even if you stayed at a campaign for years. It's closer to calling it as a source for "beer money" rather than employment. Plus, this employment comes at the cost of not knowing really whether you're advertising for a scam project or not. It's basically you just accepting whatever job that could give you money (those that just keep joining bounties that is)

Additionally, having no negative trust really just all boils down to you following the bloody rules. Most negative trust comes from there anw.
4365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beware of fixed matches offer - member wbet7pending! on: October 19, 2020, 01:20:32 AM
Well, it's a pretty stupid way of scamming or something. People who want info about match fixed stuff should go to them, not the other way around. As for how they would know? Well, it's up to the one who wants to know to research properly. Cause really, the fact that they're looking for people to join in on their match-fixing is a sign of a scam already. Additionally, fixed matches only happen on a small circle, so what's the sense of it actually spreading it in public?

Oddly enough, the newbie in question was actually scammed by wbet7 it seems, and yet here he is doing things that would probably also flag him as a scammer. Whether he could truly do as his word says, but the fact that he's selling info about fixed matches is more than enough to flag him as one I suppose.
4366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it just me or anyone experienced it as well? on: October 18, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
Wdym by unusually fast? Like it's just a figure of expression, or it legit just goes "gotta go fast" fast kind of experience? Never had such experience though, and I rarely do automatic betting in my case. I've done them a few times, but it's more of out of curiosity instead of me actually using it to the fullest. Care to share what platform exactly you had the experience? or is it just in general? Cause if it's in general I highly doubt there's something suspicious happening there. That, or they're all on it, especially since they probably think people don't check sees when it comes to automatic betting (if they ever show it).
4367  Economy / Exchanges / Re: All Exchangers scamming now on: October 18, 2020, 07:39:33 AM
Then make bots fight against bots if that's your point. Bots are quite limited in what they can do, and sudden movements are out of their specialization imo, which makes people personally doing trades have an advantage to it. Plus, bots don't really predict anything and only follow a set algorithm, so if left alone for a certain period of time, it may make you lose your funds quite quickly, so really, blaming bots for whatever is happening in exchanges (whatever you think it is) is quite pointless. Cashouts and support not responding? Probably go to a better exchange then simple as that. Also big exit scams aren't really new or anything, it's still happening in fact afaik.
4368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. on: October 18, 2020, 06:17:11 AM
I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?
of course those who had been advertised in this forum for long time now except this Signature i am wearing because this needs
 not to be old before i trust,since the manager is a well respected in this forum for long time now so playing in their site is what i also value trustworthy.
Well a forum IS one of the ways to actually find good sites, especially a forum that is filled with well-known veteran members that actually offer honest opinions and replies to questions, still reading the TOS even without being a high bettor is still a requirement imo. Don't really need to read everything, if you're not a high bettor, you can pretty much just read the deposit withdrawal agreements as well as countries allowed or restrictions for each country in their TOS, and you should be done.
I am surprised by the poll results! I didn't expect to see many gamblers voting "no"!
It, somehow, explains why there are so many topics complaining about their accounts being locked or being unable to withdraw their funds.

Reading the ToS of any platform/company before using its services is a must especially when money is involved.
It's like a contract between you and the platform and by using any of the services offered by the latter, you implicitly agree to all their terms.
Not really surprising tbh, only those more experienced ones would read TOS since they've experienced the pain of having problems with their accounts. Most people actually experience close to zero problems when playing, so they just continue on with the same attitude not just with gambling sites but with other sites as well, since really let's be honest here, reading the TOS is a pain in the ass, and is more often than not unnecessary for others.
4369  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin used for illegal activities on telegram on: October 18, 2020, 05:15:43 AM
Well, when they have nothing to blame but their incompetency, they have to find fault at something else that could make them seem not at fault, and Bitcoin seems like a juicy bit of thing to place the blame to, especially with the amount of ignorance people has about it. Still, not really a new thing, even if they do this, sooner or later people would know that Bitcoin is clearly not at fault, like it's a currency, a medium, people aren't that ignorant to actually not notice that.

We do nothing tbh, this kind of thing is actually unavoidable, especially with how the system of Bitcoin is set up. Only thing we can do is as you said, report any suspicious groups that deal with illegal stuff, using Bitcoin or not. It's actually an action supposed to be done in general, not just for the protection of the crypto scene.
4370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Proof of pure luck on: October 18, 2020, 04:24:59 AM
It shouldn't be that hard to achieve 100% randomness since there are many built-in functions and libraries that programmers can use to generate random numbers.
Collaborating few of the random output to create a string of random of numbers should not be that difficult. But if all the gambling sites start using this then they might not be able to generate profits out of their site. This is risky for their business which is why many gambling sites fake their data so that their users only win a limited number of times.
No, it's not possible. It's at most pseudo randomness, you couldn't even call it truly random due to the fact that the programmer himself was able to create it. Is randomness something that could be tampered or altered with? If it was, then is it still called random? Also I doubt casinos would even bother fake their data, scammy and fake ones for sure, but legit ones? There's absolutely no need to. Especially if their reputation is already well known, there's absolutely no need to fake numbers.
Many players are claiming that some gambling type requires more skills especially on poker. But what if the skilled player faced a very lucky person. Even if the pro player do cartwheel while his cards was bad as hell. He can't change anything about unless risk some money for bluffing(talking about poker).
Thing is, a skilled person could capitalize on his cards and decide whether to quit early or not. A lucky person? He'll just believe on his luck blindly till the end, possibly acquiring more loss compared to the amount he actually won. The difference between a skilled and a lucky person is a skilled one knows whether to play or not, that's basically it imo.
4371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: https://funxbets.com Scam?? on: October 17, 2020, 07:13:56 AM
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Good luck on depositing a minimum of $100. First glance of it seems it was rushed and I think I've seen the same interface before. Some of the reputable and known casinos doesn't have a minimum deposit or if have some maybe $10 or something but this casino is asking for a $100. I suggest to stay away from this casino and if you are really interested on playing just play on reputable gambling sites there's a lot of them.
It's asking for a $100 deposit??? Scam bro. Just the amount itself already screams of the fact that "I AM A SCAM, BUT YOU'RE AN IDIOT SO GIVE ME MONEY" kind of stupidity. Who in their right minds would deposit $100 just to activate the withdrawal system? If it were $1, maybe max $5, it'd actually be understandable, but it's not. Yes, some sites ask for deposits before being able to withdraw, but it's mainly because they provide free giveaways that players can enjoy, and said deposits don't exceed $5 even.

There's also the issue that the site is 17 years old. Not that I'm telling it's a scam 100%, but the chances are high.
4372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. on: October 17, 2020, 04:52:30 AM
I do, but not entirely. Heck, I ignore most of them sometimes, but really, it depends on how much I know about the site already. I come across platforms from forums that have reviews on them that already contain info I want, so if I ever do try that site, I ignore everything and just head-on. If I'm completely new though, I try to look for some info, specifically for KYC, withdrawal, and deposits, countries allowed, etc. Most TOS contain generic information anyway, like hacking/taking advantage of a loophole, etc. is banned or something like that, so there's really no use in reading it all.

Ofc, this happnes before I play, when I actually sign up to their site. I have plenty of time, especially since it reduces the amount of pain in the ass to come whenever some issue or problem crops up due to either their or my fault.
4373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any Crypto with stable change and good trading volume? on: October 17, 2020, 01:21:47 AM
I don't think that cryptocurrency and stable volatility could even coexist. There's stablecoin for that, but what's the sense in using them even? You could try stocks though, especially those of the big companies, since they rarely dip, mostly happens whenever something bad/wrong happens in the company, but you can easily discover that before you lose everything. Additionally, if such a "gold mine" existed, a lot of people would have entered it already, which pretty much makes profiting off of it quite difficult already. I'm hoping for the best with Bitcoin losing its high volatility in the near future, but completely losing it is impossible and the levels of how much it loses are still dependent on the future. 
4374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin on: October 16, 2020, 10:06:10 AM
PVP games such as 8ball or the like are more suited for casual gaming and/or tournament based gaming. It really isn't suited for a platform where you bet against each other which is, really, it's just a competition and if it's as such, they would rather host a big one rather than a small 1v1's. As for casual gaming, well, there are already a lot of offline games and even online ones, iirc, my sister used to play something like 8ball in her phone with another player, probably hosted by Facebook if I recall correctly.

why its hard to be famous when we are now in the era of online / online gaming  . i think people right now are going to demand for online game or player vs player ( p2p ) including my self but before i was happy on the games with single player and offline but  now my taste change idk why but i feel alone playing games with no p2p support  . its not hard to be famous if the game or gambling site has a great elements that can surely magnet people to play on them  . waiting for other players just to start the game wont also be a problem if the site is popular  but btw your thread of pvp game can still help him if ever he did not found the thing that he was lookin for .
It's hard because you're adding that factor of betting. Online games are prevalent, yes, but with the added section of bets included, a lot of those players would probably bail since most of them actually play casually. Even if we do say that there's eSports that still ask for money, those are tournament-based, which makes the games big and the prizes bigger as well, add that to the big community included with it.
4375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone betting on "Electronic Leagues"? on: October 16, 2020, 04:39:57 AM
So it's a tournament of players playing sports games on pc? Did I get that right? Sounds like they should just label it as eSports and not something else since I'm pretty sure the definition still encompasses what they're doing right now. First time I actually saw them having called it Electronic league though, always thought it was eSports. Been participating in some local NBA2k tourneys in our place and it's always called as eSports.
I'm so much not a fan of this virtual or electronic games especially with the fact that, your predictions are entirely subject to the programs put in place by the programmer to generate the outcomes on each games. It makes predicting so difficult and in a matter of an minutes, your chances of winning or losing a lot is relatively high but, I'll stress on the losing as it has been my case the few times I e tried them. No doubt a lot of other persons do understand certain options to stake on that comes rather frequently but, not measuring a teams strength based on the quality of players they are supposed to add just don't help my predictability and it's so uncool to me. But then, it is fun as it makes betting never to be out of season.
Doesn't that mean that eSports on general are dependent on how the programmer programmed the game? And that dictates the winner? Unlikely tbh. Balancing and the like is done daily and in case of sports that are based on irl teams, stats are mostly balanced and would actually just skew towards whatever that said player is skilled at. Arranging them in a team where it's more likely to make you win is part of the skill that's required in these types of games.
4376  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a new $2 trillion bill bring back the US economy to pre pandemic levels. on: October 16, 2020, 12:41:22 AM
According to Brookings Institute if the US government passes a $2 trillion (stimulus) bill, then there’s a good chance that they can revive the US economy to pre pandemic levels by mid 2021. However will the US government actually approve such a huge stimulus bill?, and what happens if it fails to revive the economy then how will they fix it?. Lastly what do you’ll think about this huge stimulus bill should the US government actually approve it.?

Source:

https://money.yahoo.com/coronavirus-stimulus-a-2-trillion-bill-would-bring-the-us-economy-back-to-prepandemic-path-in-2021-brookings-finds-210605554.html
How high of a chance are we looking at here anyway? The US government would not approve of it if the chances aren't even at realistic levels, and if they even do so, a road plan, a proper one with details at the very minute levels are recommended for it to even happen. And even if they ever do this, more problems would crop up in the next few years due to the debt the US has increasing even more than it already has. Who would shoulder that burden then?

And if ever a second wave of the pandemic comes, just how big or how huge would it's effects be? It could even be completely possible to remove the benefits of that $2 trillion stimulus bill that would be released, and by then, everything would have been wasted. Not only did their debt grew, they'd probably have to increase it more just to react to the pandemic.
4377  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Enpugh is enough time Truth about btc on: October 15, 2020, 01:07:42 PM
Not like there's anything that could change even if we knew about the "truth" of BTC. Even if it was the average joe in your work that made it, or the nerd/geek gang of your hs alumni, or just banks messing with the financial word and made this, nothing would change, BTC is there, it basically runs through the community now. Look at how CSW tried to capitalize on the name of Satoshi, and look at where that went, a lawsuit. Not really sure about what happened about said lawsuit though.

4378  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: When You trade Do You use VPN? on: October 15, 2020, 11:11:13 AM
There's no need for VPN when trading. It isn't like it's banned or anything, and afaik, if you're country has crypto banned, all exchanges in there are banned but you can still probably trade online since they can't really detect if you're trading. It's just up to the exchange though whether they would accept your account or not when trading, due to the said reason of your country banning crypto.

Additionally, there might be issues of tracing you back when hackers or the like get your account, as well as for official reasons of the exchange actually tracing you back for some reason related to KYC or something, which may inevitably lead to a ban. Besides, you're a legit customer, I don't see much of a reason why you should use VPN.
4379  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Hardware Cryptowallet with Fingerprint Authorization on: October 15, 2020, 09:47:18 AM
I completely get that these sort of "cool features" are nice, I think it's really a bit too much and a bit too unnecessary. For a smartphone that I pretty much use everyday and I have on my hand a lot of times? Makes complete sense. For a hardware wallet that has my funds that I mostly just hold and just transact from time to time? A bit unnecessary. A cheap small Ledger Nano S or Trezor One is enough for me.
Isn't the fingerprint more for security purposes rather than ease of access? At the very least, it prevents the common robber from opening it immediately. And even if a specialized robber were to be presented with a fingerprint scanner for him to fool, it'd still take time. In addition to that, I suppose they should've also added an offline gps which probably turns on once a fake fingerprint is scanned so that when stolen, can easily be located. I'm just throwing out ideas here though I don't really know how that works.

I hope it has a pin code back up. Sometimes my finger doesn't work on the phones I've owned. What if something happened to your finger?

Yea this is also a wanted feature. I tried looking up info about it, couldn't really find any. Their announcement itself on their exchange also doesn't really contain if it has a pin code back up or anything, though it did state something about auto-initializing when detecting a brute forced attack.

In my opinion, hardware crypto wallet innovation is the competition in the sales market. One and the same product will constantly improve, different gadgets will be added to it, and, naturally, the price will be more attractive to consumers. Reducing prices and increasing quality, this is marketing
 Only if we say that "A miser pays twice.", you should still think about old and tested devices. The same can be said for the mobile phone market.
I highly doubt adding more gadgets to a wallet used for crypto is a good thing. Especially since you're mostly using the wallet to hold coins. Sure, if you were to use it daily in spending stuff then probably, a different wallet to hold crypto to spend and crypto to hold, but with our hodling attitude right now? I doubt they'd include more gadgets in a wallet.
4380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How does a software defined House Edge work in a PF scenario? on: October 15, 2020, 06:17:53 AM
Huh Huh Huh
I've been trying to google-fu this answer, or any variant of an answer for years. It's really bothering me; and so much that I actually decided to make a thread here. I'll seek out other forums afterward if there isn't a satisfactory answer provided. It seems to be very closely guarded information- but people have worked it into their subconscious that it's just your "basic house edge" "1%" or otherwise. .. but from what I understand about the edge in a Brick & Mortar casino it's basically an expectation of profit over time. In a digital environment we have a digital edge; so my question is : how does a software defined edge interact with a provably fair engine?
What is this digital edge you even speak of anyway? Both types of casinos, online and offline all include house edge, and they're basically the same in that you're guaranteed to lose money to the casinos in the long run. It's not like the software or logic of a roulette in Brick & Mortar casinos are fundamentally different from those of online roulettes, same with other type of games, they retain the same basic aspects that Brick & Mortar games have, House edge and the style of game they have. If you're talking about table games such as Poker, then let me tell you that it has none. The casinos only take a portion of the fees the players pay, as well as from the pot or something like that.
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