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4381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling thoughts. on: October 20, 2020, 11:20:47 AM

1. Which one do you prefer, Casino gambling or online gambling?
2. How much money are you willing to spend on gambling?
3. How do you manage your lose streak or win streak?
4. If you will have $1000, what game in the casino you are going to play?
5. What is the best advice that you can give to a gambler?
1. Online gambling, I myself am not really fond of social gatherings so having the chance to be able to play online is pretty nice.
2. Pretty limited, it depends on how much I have for the month and what expenditures I got, but it won't exceed a total of 10% of what my pay for the month that is. If I get beer money from some sites, I use some of that to play, but other than that, there's nothing.
3. Nothing, I just play for fun anyway. As long as my funds run out, I just stop, winning streak or not.
4. Crash, Roulette, BlackJack. Those 3 are some of the games that I really enjoy for some particular reason. They aren't that complicated, nor do they actually require skill, but I still have lots of fun with them.
5. Don't gamble? Like really, as a gambler, that's the best advice I could give to a fellow gambler.
4382  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will 2017/2018 Bullrun repeat in 2021? on: October 20, 2020, 07:07:11 AM
If we're solely basing it on history, then yes, there's a possible chance that the bullrun would happen around early to mid 2021. Not to mention that various companies have shown favorability to Bitcoin as a store of value, investing their company stocks into it, and let's not even mention how Grayscale has kept buying out Bitcoin recently these past few weeks. Still, anything can happen, it's also the reason why Bitcoin is well known as a highly volatile market. You never know what piece of news can actually affect the demand of people for it.

I'm guessing that once Bitcoin breaks around $13-$14k, you can expect to see a few signs of whether the market would actually hit a bullrun or not. Most people are actually expecting it imo, since really, every halving the market has always shown significant growth, so a lot are probably expecting the same this year.
4383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Towards another gambling site. on: October 20, 2020, 05:34:13 AM
I'm guessing the best bet you'd get with is just generally strategies to minimize the losses, but that's it. There isn't really any strategy in the game of roulette itself, though outside of that, you can get countless of strategies to avoid the casino from taking advantage of you. Best tip? Don't get greedy, pretty much just like how it is in terms of any other type of gambling game. Gambling is in a sense, basically, you waiting for a result after throwing in money, meaning after you threw your money that's it, no guide left. BUT, you can still form strategies BEFORE throwing money, so play around that.

Still, goodluck with it, roulette is pretty laid back at times, especially when you're playing in an online casino. Afaik, roulettes on physical casinos are much more intense due to the people playing together with you in a table.
4384  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Situation :( on: October 20, 2020, 01:34:58 AM
17.They did not invent a vaccine between 1900-2020 for coronaviruses ...they knew coronaviruses existed etc ,do you really think that in 1 year they can do what others couldn't do in 100 years ? How about the mutations and so on ... It's going to take a long time before they find the cure ...
This made me laugh lmao. You're basically asking scientists to learn how to run before even knowing how to walk, do you know how ridiculous you sound? Why didn't your God send down a sign that the virus was there, and why didn't your God then tell scientists that this and that is the cure? Not that I hate religion or anything, just that putting God on every little argument thinking you sound holy/religious sounds stupid so please stop that.

Wrong, all problems come from the fact that we are humans. Humans have every kind of sin inside them after all, and from that basically stems every little problem we have, from being late to assignment due dates to having an excessive debt to the world.
4385  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New Normal Game Setup - a success or a failure? on: October 19, 2020, 11:57:40 AM
In my opinion, the new normal games setup that is currently running is quite successful, because some of the sports leagues are already active.
Even though there are still some shortcomings it is normal, because to be able to run perfectly it still takes time. The most important thing is
that we as sports fans can watch our favorite team or player can play again. And also we can start playing sports betting again, because some
sportsbook sites are re-opening.
True the important thing here is that they're active, back in action, and that viewers could once again watch what they love. Still though, one of the failures in the new setup would probably be the best players in a team being diagnosed with the virus, therefore being unable to play, thereby having a match between a perfect team and a team filled with subs and therefore, filled with holes. I saw someone post here about something like that, not sure if it was a friendly match or not, but nonetheless you get my point.

It wasn't a failure but not also a 100% success by then. It needs more adjustment and more time to finally adopt the new normal, is a thing that no one around is shouting loud but all of them are just watching on TV or on the internet live. The game must have to continue despite these huge changes, though it wasn't really lively to see but that is what we have today. Social distancing, limited numbers of allowed person to get inside, we have nothing to complain because that is the protocol and we have to follow it.
Well, a compromise is something that is quite normal here tbh, if they were able to implement this new setup perfectly then I'd have to really bow down to them. Nothing that we can do about it though, it isn't like there's a huge riot over the new setup, and I'm pretty sure most of us know how difficult it is for even the new setup to be done.
4386  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's in the game, after all? on: October 19, 2020, 06:32:37 AM
Is there even a need for a reason for making it as an "enjoyment"? It's like asking something, why do you do that, do you do this, do you want to be that kind of thing. We want it cause we want to, there's really no need to overcomplicate reasons or whatever. We enjoy gambling because we enjoy it, that's my take on to gambling I suppose.

However the successful stories of those gamblers are making more sound than those who always lose.

Yet, success are really a great story to tell. It is not easy to get into that title being lucky and win especially great prizes or great winnings. Thus making it other gamblers to to try their luck and in return they tend to lose but somehow occassionally will be able to win and that motivate them to play more to get more chance in winning huge prizes.

Thi is one of the reason in getting addiction of gambling. however, there are only few people are getting addicted because all of us had common sene that we could not give in into that situation without considering our priorities in life
Aren't they made into "stories" because they were successful? Let's be real here, who would even listen to a story of a man losing to gambling? That's like our everyday lives, no one wants to listen to that, sure if you add a bit of sob story elements some may read it, but that's it. But success? Now that's a story most would be willing to read, why? Because they want to be one, they want to be like the guy that was successful. Do remember that successful stories are just 1 in a million stories out there, but only that 1 is told because it's a unique instance, and not an instance that could regularly occur.

4387  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did bitcoin lose its value? on: October 19, 2020, 05:52:21 AM
The price being stagnant doesn't automatically equate to it losing value. Doesn't that mean that the various currencies that have been stagnant actually has no value at all? I guess you could say that Bitcoin would only lose its value once the demand for it is all gone, but with it being described as a currency, it is unlikely to happen. And additionally, there's no need to correlate USD and Bitcoin imo, they don't have much of a relation aside from being both currencies.

Additionally, you also said about the Fed printing money to address the pandemic, but Bitcoin did not do that. The supply currently being mined right now is just a part of the program that was set up in the beginning, and even with the pandemic or not, said process would still continue on.
4388  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin has the properties of an employment opportunity on: October 19, 2020, 05:05:31 AM
This is simple advertising, that's it, there's no need to put so much emphasis on how it could help you or whatnot. Yes, you're technically getting employed for your services, specifically to spread their name (whatever bounty you're in) across the forums through the use of signatures, but that's it, it isn't even an official employment, the funds you get wouldn't even be enough for you to live comfortably even if you stayed at a campaign for years. It's closer to calling it as a source for "beer money" rather than employment. Plus, this employment comes at the cost of not knowing really whether you're advertising for a scam project or not. It's basically you just accepting whatever job that could give you money (those that just keep joining bounties that is)

Additionally, having no negative trust really just all boils down to you following the bloody rules. Most negative trust comes from there anw.
4389  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Beware of fixed matches offer - member wbet7pending! on: October 19, 2020, 01:20:32 AM
Well, it's a pretty stupid way of scamming or something. People who want info about match fixed stuff should go to them, not the other way around. As for how they would know? Well, it's up to the one who wants to know to research properly. Cause really, the fact that they're looking for people to join in on their match-fixing is a sign of a scam already. Additionally, fixed matches only happen on a small circle, so what's the sense of it actually spreading it in public?

Oddly enough, the newbie in question was actually scammed by wbet7 it seems, and yet here he is doing things that would probably also flag him as a scammer. Whether he could truly do as his word says, but the fact that he's selling info about fixed matches is more than enough to flag him as one I suppose.
4390  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it just me or anyone experienced it as well? on: October 18, 2020, 11:07:29 AM
Wdym by unusually fast? Like it's just a figure of expression, or it legit just goes "gotta go fast" fast kind of experience? Never had such experience though, and I rarely do automatic betting in my case. I've done them a few times, but it's more of out of curiosity instead of me actually using it to the fullest. Care to share what platform exactly you had the experience? or is it just in general? Cause if it's in general I highly doubt there's something suspicious happening there. That, or they're all on it, especially since they probably think people don't check sees when it comes to automatic betting (if they ever show it).
4391  Economy / Exchanges / Re: All Exchangers scamming now on: October 18, 2020, 07:39:33 AM
Then make bots fight against bots if that's your point. Bots are quite limited in what they can do, and sudden movements are out of their specialization imo, which makes people personally doing trades have an advantage to it. Plus, bots don't really predict anything and only follow a set algorithm, so if left alone for a certain period of time, it may make you lose your funds quite quickly, so really, blaming bots for whatever is happening in exchanges (whatever you think it is) is quite pointless. Cashouts and support not responding? Probably go to a better exchange then simple as that. Also big exit scams aren't really new or anything, it's still happening in fact afaik.
4392  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. on: October 18, 2020, 06:17:11 AM
I'm not a High bettor so i don't really care about TOS as long as i trust the site and how do i found trusted sites?
of course those who had been advertised in this forum for long time now except this Signature i am wearing because this needs
 not to be old before i trust,since the manager is a well respected in this forum for long time now so playing in their site is what i also value trustworthy.
Well a forum IS one of the ways to actually find good sites, especially a forum that is filled with well-known veteran members that actually offer honest opinions and replies to questions, still reading the TOS even without being a high bettor is still a requirement imo. Don't really need to read everything, if you're not a high bettor, you can pretty much just read the deposit withdrawal agreements as well as countries allowed or restrictions for each country in their TOS, and you should be done.
I am surprised by the poll results! I didn't expect to see many gamblers voting "no"!
It, somehow, explains why there are so many topics complaining about their accounts being locked or being unable to withdraw their funds.

Reading the ToS of any platform/company before using its services is a must especially when money is involved.
It's like a contract between you and the platform and by using any of the services offered by the latter, you implicitly agree to all their terms.
Not really surprising tbh, only those more experienced ones would read TOS since they've experienced the pain of having problems with their accounts. Most people actually experience close to zero problems when playing, so they just continue on with the same attitude not just with gambling sites but with other sites as well, since really let's be honest here, reading the TOS is a pain in the ass, and is more often than not unnecessary for others.
4393  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin used for illegal activities on telegram on: October 18, 2020, 05:15:43 AM
Well, when they have nothing to blame but their incompetency, they have to find fault at something else that could make them seem not at fault, and Bitcoin seems like a juicy bit of thing to place the blame to, especially with the amount of ignorance people has about it. Still, not really a new thing, even if they do this, sooner or later people would know that Bitcoin is clearly not at fault, like it's a currency, a medium, people aren't that ignorant to actually not notice that.

We do nothing tbh, this kind of thing is actually unavoidable, especially with how the system of Bitcoin is set up. Only thing we can do is as you said, report any suspicious groups that deal with illegal stuff, using Bitcoin or not. It's actually an action supposed to be done in general, not just for the protection of the crypto scene.
4394  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Proof of pure luck on: October 18, 2020, 04:24:59 AM
It shouldn't be that hard to achieve 100% randomness since there are many built-in functions and libraries that programmers can use to generate random numbers.
Collaborating few of the random output to create a string of random of numbers should not be that difficult. But if all the gambling sites start using this then they might not be able to generate profits out of their site. This is risky for their business which is why many gambling sites fake their data so that their users only win a limited number of times.
No, it's not possible. It's at most pseudo randomness, you couldn't even call it truly random due to the fact that the programmer himself was able to create it. Is randomness something that could be tampered or altered with? If it was, then is it still called random? Also I doubt casinos would even bother fake their data, scammy and fake ones for sure, but legit ones? There's absolutely no need to. Especially if their reputation is already well known, there's absolutely no need to fake numbers.
Many players are claiming that some gambling type requires more skills especially on poker. But what if the skilled player faced a very lucky person. Even if the pro player do cartwheel while his cards was bad as hell. He can't change anything about unless risk some money for bluffing(talking about poker).
Thing is, a skilled person could capitalize on his cards and decide whether to quit early or not. A lucky person? He'll just believe on his luck blindly till the end, possibly acquiring more loss compared to the amount he actually won. The difference between a skilled and a lucky person is a skilled one knows whether to play or not, that's basically it imo.
4395  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: https://funxbets.com Scam?? on: October 17, 2020, 07:13:56 AM
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Good luck on depositing a minimum of $100. First glance of it seems it was rushed and I think I've seen the same interface before. Some of the reputable and known casinos doesn't have a minimum deposit or if have some maybe $10 or something but this casino is asking for a $100. I suggest to stay away from this casino and if you are really interested on playing just play on reputable gambling sites there's a lot of them.
It's asking for a $100 deposit??? Scam bro. Just the amount itself already screams of the fact that "I AM A SCAM, BUT YOU'RE AN IDIOT SO GIVE ME MONEY" kind of stupidity. Who in their right minds would deposit $100 just to activate the withdrawal system? If it were $1, maybe max $5, it'd actually be understandable, but it's not. Yes, some sites ask for deposits before being able to withdraw, but it's mainly because they provide free giveaways that players can enjoy, and said deposits don't exceed $5 even.

There's also the issue that the site is 17 years old. Not that I'm telling it's a scam 100%, but the chances are high.
4396  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you read the TOS of a gambling site? Honest answer please. on: October 17, 2020, 04:52:30 AM
I do, but not entirely. Heck, I ignore most of them sometimes, but really, it depends on how much I know about the site already. I come across platforms from forums that have reviews on them that already contain info I want, so if I ever do try that site, I ignore everything and just head-on. If I'm completely new though, I try to look for some info, specifically for KYC, withdrawal, and deposits, countries allowed, etc. Most TOS contain generic information anyway, like hacking/taking advantage of a loophole, etc. is banned or something like that, so there's really no use in reading it all.

Ofc, this happnes before I play, when I actually sign up to their site. I have plenty of time, especially since it reduces the amount of pain in the ass to come whenever some issue or problem crops up due to either their or my fault.
4397  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any Crypto with stable change and good trading volume? on: October 17, 2020, 01:21:47 AM
I don't think that cryptocurrency and stable volatility could even coexist. There's stablecoin for that, but what's the sense in using them even? You could try stocks though, especially those of the big companies, since they rarely dip, mostly happens whenever something bad/wrong happens in the company, but you can easily discover that before you lose everything. Additionally, if such a "gold mine" existed, a lot of people would have entered it already, which pretty much makes profiting off of it quite difficult already. I'm hoping for the best with Bitcoin losing its high volatility in the near future, but completely losing it is impossible and the levels of how much it loses are still dependent on the future. 
4398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Any p2p LUDO, Carrom, 8ballpool game with Bitcoin on: October 16, 2020, 10:06:10 AM
PVP games such as 8ball or the like are more suited for casual gaming and/or tournament based gaming. It really isn't suited for a platform where you bet against each other which is, really, it's just a competition and if it's as such, they would rather host a big one rather than a small 1v1's. As for casual gaming, well, there are already a lot of offline games and even online ones, iirc, my sister used to play something like 8ball in her phone with another player, probably hosted by Facebook if I recall correctly.

why its hard to be famous when we are now in the era of online / online gaming  . i think people right now are going to demand for online game or player vs player ( p2p ) including my self but before i was happy on the games with single player and offline but  now my taste change idk why but i feel alone playing games with no p2p support  . its not hard to be famous if the game or gambling site has a great elements that can surely magnet people to play on them  . waiting for other players just to start the game wont also be a problem if the site is popular  but btw your thread of pvp game can still help him if ever he did not found the thing that he was lookin for .
It's hard because you're adding that factor of betting. Online games are prevalent, yes, but with the added section of bets included, a lot of those players would probably bail since most of them actually play casually. Even if we do say that there's eSports that still ask for money, those are tournament-based, which makes the games big and the prizes bigger as well, add that to the big community included with it.
4399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Anyone betting on "Electronic Leagues"? on: October 16, 2020, 04:39:57 AM
So it's a tournament of players playing sports games on pc? Did I get that right? Sounds like they should just label it as eSports and not something else since I'm pretty sure the definition still encompasses what they're doing right now. First time I actually saw them having called it Electronic league though, always thought it was eSports. Been participating in some local NBA2k tourneys in our place and it's always called as eSports.
I'm so much not a fan of this virtual or electronic games especially with the fact that, your predictions are entirely subject to the programs put in place by the programmer to generate the outcomes on each games. It makes predicting so difficult and in a matter of an minutes, your chances of winning or losing a lot is relatively high but, I'll stress on the losing as it has been my case the few times I e tried them. No doubt a lot of other persons do understand certain options to stake on that comes rather frequently but, not measuring a teams strength based on the quality of players they are supposed to add just don't help my predictability and it's so uncool to me. But then, it is fun as it makes betting never to be out of season.
Doesn't that mean that eSports on general are dependent on how the programmer programmed the game? And that dictates the winner? Unlikely tbh. Balancing and the like is done daily and in case of sports that are based on irl teams, stats are mostly balanced and would actually just skew towards whatever that said player is skilled at. Arranging them in a team where it's more likely to make you win is part of the skill that's required in these types of games.
4400  Economy / Economics / Re: Can a new $2 trillion bill bring back the US economy to pre pandemic levels. on: October 16, 2020, 12:41:22 AM
According to Brookings Institute if the US government passes a $2 trillion (stimulus) bill, then there’s a good chance that they can revive the US economy to pre pandemic levels by mid 2021. However will the US government actually approve such a huge stimulus bill?, and what happens if it fails to revive the economy then how will they fix it?. Lastly what do you’ll think about this huge stimulus bill should the US government actually approve it.?

Source:

https://money.yahoo.com/coronavirus-stimulus-a-2-trillion-bill-would-bring-the-us-economy-back-to-prepandemic-path-in-2021-brookings-finds-210605554.html
How high of a chance are we looking at here anyway? The US government would not approve of it if the chances aren't even at realistic levels, and if they even do so, a road plan, a proper one with details at the very minute levels are recommended for it to even happen. And even if they ever do this, more problems would crop up in the next few years due to the debt the US has increasing even more than it already has. Who would shoulder that burden then?

And if ever a second wave of the pandemic comes, just how big or how huge would it's effects be? It could even be completely possible to remove the benefits of that $2 trillion stimulus bill that would be released, and by then, everything would have been wasted. Not only did their debt grew, they'd probably have to increase it more just to react to the pandemic.
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