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441  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-09-08]Bitfinex Invests in Derivatives Exchange Built With Bitcoin’s LN on: September 09, 2020, 09:57:57 PM
This could be viable alternative for daily trader who wants control over cryptocurrency they trade. I just wonder what's maximum balance can be "deposited" when creating LN channel?

the maximum margin per account/channel is 1,000,000 satoshis, but i think you could open multiple channels to increase that. that's probably not a good idea though because i doubt the order books are very deep when you go to liquidate your positions.
442  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-09-08]Bitfinex Invests in Derivatives Exchange Built With Bitcoin’s LN on: September 08, 2020, 06:50:30 PM
this is the first i've heard of LN markets. pretty cool implementation of a CFD market, but a tad too early in development for my taste:

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LN Markets is an alpha software under active development. Please use with care, preferably on Testnet or with small amounts. LN Markets comes with no guarantees, use at your own risk.

i suppose with max margin of 0.01 BTC, one can only lose so much. Smiley

i was able to find the trading page, but does anybody know how to see the order books? and what index is being referenced for price? their site is a bit lacking in information. https://lnmarkets.com/product
443  Economy / Gambling / Re: #4 Bitcointalk Poker Series @ SwC Poker (0.06 BTC, BIG BTC Ticket by SwC) on: September 08, 2020, 06:30:34 PM
+1. just make a new account already! Smiley
I do not know what is their policy with Multi account. Normally it should not be allowed so it did not hit my mind. Hopefully by this weekend I sort out with them and get back my account.

you can't use multiple accounts in the same cash game or tournament (obviously!) and you can't use multiple accounts to evade a chat ban. otherwise, you're fine. they have no specific policy against making a 2nd account and using it instead of your original one.

you can check the house rules here: https://swcpoker.eu/house-rules

support is pretty slow these days. Roll Eyes
444  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance's own yield farming and swap platform on: September 08, 2020, 12:21:50 AM
This is all to make a decentralized trading platform on the back of a centralized trading platform (Binance) if I'm not mistaken?

bella (and others) are just using binance as a platform to airdrop their "utility" tokens. for the token issuer, it's like an IEO in the sense that it's very big exposure for their platform launch. for binance, it works because they're creating supposed "utility" for the BNB ecosystem.

what CZ is really doing is pumping the price of BNB. 90% of the BEL rewards to be released in this staking scheme are for BNB stakers. he's leveraging defi hype to suck BNB supply off the market and into staking pools.

BNB pumped 25% on this news. Roll Eyes
445  Economy / Gambling / Re: #4 Bitcointalk Poker Series @ SwC Poker (0.06 BTC, BIG BTC Ticket by SwC) on: September 08, 2020, 12:01:16 AM
congrats on taking it down yesterday, @Improved!

What's up guys? Just 15 mins to go and still some regulars haven't registered. Are you guys making my way easier for the Championship? Tongue
Yeah, I am wondering what happened to  bitmutiny, SteamTyme and figmentofmyass. Its very unusual that they are missing when you look at the spreadsheet at the last tourneys.

i just moved the day before, with the truck and everything. fuck waking up early the next day to play poker. Tongue

i also forgot to get internet hooked up at the new place. it's not getting installed until next monday now (wtf!) so i might miss next week too. we'll see, depends where i sleep the night before.

As you see I already missed it. I am working on changing my email with SwC. Once it settled I will let you know. So 2 out of 8 already missed which is not good for me. Hopefully, I will join you in the next tourney once my SwC account sorts out.
With SwC, you could just have created a new account and use that one until the issue gets resolved - that’s the beauty of it.

+1. just make a new account already! Smiley
446  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Taxes for Airdrops and Rewards? on: September 07, 2020, 11:37:09 PM
My example is different here.  Im talking about coins you get from staking... example... u get coins from waves leasing or any other altcoins.  But during the whole time, you just get additional waves or other altcoins.  Say you get a few hundred dollars worth of it when you add up each transaction at the time you receive those waves or altcoin...like 5 dollars each time...but obviously it could be more or less if that coin price is different.
Anyone?

i know you're really hoping to get a different answer, but all the tax experts say the same exact thing: based on the IRS's 2014 guidance, staking rewards are treated as gross income at the time of receipt.
https://tokentax.co/help/how-taxes-work-for-crypto-mining-and-staking/
https://cryptotrader.tax/blog/how-to-handle-cryptocurrency-mining-on-your-taxes
https://medium.com/@BlockchainAssoc/why-staking-rewards-need-better-tax-treatment-81ea4d542ebd

Then say you reported one hundred or few hundred etc.  Then later on... that coin is worth nothing... then what happens?

sell for a loss, then deduct the loss on schedule D (capital gains and losses). this will even everything out so you only owe taxes on your actual profit:

you're screwed when it goes to 0 because you're still liable for the original income BUT when you sell for a loss you can also deduct those capital losses in the tax year you sold. as long as you don't have more than $3k in realized losses during any year, you can deduct all those losses so it all evens out.

but when you get coins from staking.. it seems like you need to immediately sell it for usd or usdt to prevent getting screwed

yes, unless you have other ways to cover the tax liability, or ways to hedge the downside risk.....or you just want to gamble. Wink
447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Gameplays and Strategies on: September 05, 2020, 10:14:03 PM
how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue
Obviously he know nothing about playing poker in casino  Tongue . Even Daniel Negreanu has terrible time to deal with online poker on ggpoker, I saw his livestream from youtube ( probably for a week already ) and he admitted that it is hard to really play online poker. Everyone seems pro at a glance and he cant really translate how he normally play into his online experience though

did you see doug polk troll negreanu into an online heads up grudge match a few weeks ago? Cheesy

https://twitter.com/RealKidPoker/status/1288602794665025536

i was really surprised to see DN accept the challenge. indeed, online is not his game at all as he himself will acknowledge, and tbh i don't think NLHE is really his game either. it almost makes me wonder if he set things up so he could explain away losing.

i rarely pay attention to the poker scene or watch live streams these days, but this is one i intend to watch. it should be pretty interesting. polk is obviously not in top form. he's recently been getting crushed at low stakes HU tables. https://www.parttimepoker.com/doug-polk-daniel-negreanu-heads-up-challenge
448  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Taxes for Airdrops and Rewards? on: September 05, 2020, 09:56:53 PM
Anyone else?  So if you get waves to your waves wallet from leasing or other wallets like that... but you don't sell them... do you report that?

now you're talking about staking rewards, which are distinct from airdrops. read this: https://tokentax.co/help/how-taxes-work-for-crypto-mining-and-staking/

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If you mined bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies or received rewards from crypto staking, then you are liable for income tax on what you earned.

In the United States, per IRS guidance, crypto mining is to be treated as ordinary income using the total fair market value of the currency at the date of receipt. This means that mining proceeds are reported as income, not capital gains.

every payment you received from leasing waves is considered ordinary income, not capital gains. you're supposed to calculate the fair market value of every payment when it was received, then report them all as income. there are crypto tax softwares that can do this for you now, so you don't have to manually calculate the value of every single payment.

That also makes no sense because until you sell it... what if each one is worth 5 dollars and you got say 50 for the year so two fifty profit.  But you didn't sell them or anything or trade it but then later on it drops to 0... so you pay taxes on that two fifty... but then get screwed when its 0?  Because if you do report that, wouldnt you have to sell it immediately to not get freerolled so to speak?

if you're worried about getting screwed by volatility, then yeah, you might sell the waves as they come in to maintain the USD value.

you're screwed when it goes to 0 because you're still liable for the original income BUT when you sell for a loss you can also deduct those capital losses in the tax year you sold. as long as you don't have more than $3k in realized losses during any year, you can deduct all those losses so it all evens out.
449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Poker Gameplays and Strategies on: September 05, 2020, 09:22:02 PM
I think online poker is a great way to start learning poker. If you can survive online tournaments or cash games you are definitely ready to play offline games. You are right that it's a completely different setup when playing in a real casino with real people on a table. At home no one can see you, you don't give away tales, but in a casino everyone is watching you.

how is playing online gonna help you hide your tells at the casino? Tongue

throw on some sunglasses, a hoodie, maybe some headphones---just imagine you're phil ivey---you'll be okay. Cheesy

live games (at least at low stakes which is relevant to 99% of people around here) are much softer than online, at least in my experience. that's also what i've heard from other players.
450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ✅ SwC Poker ♣️ Player Lounge on: September 05, 2020, 09:11:38 PM
subscribed, thanks for making this thread.

Whats the deal with this EndTheFed guy?

He is promoting all the tournaments all the time, even pushing late reg . it makes no sense to promote late reg when you actually play the tournament because you want an overlay so you have to beat less players to win more money.

Also now he is even giving bubble protection. He promotes tournaments every 10-20 minutes via copy/paste and isnt even registered himself yet. Mostly he registers if there is an overlay at the end of late reg. 100% a house employee, otherwise all of this would not make any sense. Employees (which dont admit they are) should NOT be allowed to play.

i'm fine with prop players if it keeps games going, but they need to be identified as SwC employees, absolutely.

SwC does seem to be going down the drain lately.

i appreciate that they've shaken up the tourney schedule a bit recently, but aside from that, it's nothing but disappointment. communication is just terrible. nobody can get a straight answer about anything---if they can get an answer from support at all. the chat policies are totally fucked up now. it's hard to believe ownership hasn't changed hands.
451  Economy / Gambling / Re: #4 Bitcointalk Poker Series @ SwC Poker (0.06 BTC, BIG BTC Ticket by SwC) on: September 05, 2020, 08:54:08 PM
FOMA is way tighter than i am, he labelled me quite early on and was spot on LAG he's very TAG. If the odds are there he's calling, albeit there are probably some tight folds for better spots
Probably the tightest among all participants in this series. If he calls / check raised then there is almost 95% this dude has a good card on his hands.

i'm glad you think so. Wink

Everyone ready for Sunday's game? I am pretty sure I'll own you guys this time... Last week you got a foretaste of what's awaiting you in series #4...  Cool

i haven't missed a game in months but i might sit this one out. moving/renovating is so exhausting, i could really go for sleeping in tomorrow. technically i'll be around so i'll see how i feel and play it by ear.
452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Andreessen and Rajaram joins Coinbase as Board of Directors on: September 05, 2020, 08:39:21 PM
How can a Coinbase IPO kickstart a potential Bitcoin bull run?

mainstream, equity-focused investors don't want to touch BTC or derivatives. they like to hold equities. there are very few affordable or liquid options to do that with that provide any sort of exposure to the crypto market.

i dunno about "kickstarting" a bitcoin bull run, but i could see a coinbase public listing drawing in attention/interest to the crypto space from traditional investors. it'll allow them to dip their toes into the market, get them comfortable with the idea of cryptocurrency as digital assets, and get them ripe for bigger listings like an eventual bitcoin ETF.

Coinbase isn't the biggest or the best crypto exchange platform.The Coinbase stocks are not tied to the price of Bitcoin.

i think coinbase shares would be indirectly tied to bitcoin/crypto prices. the market would price shares based on earnings + speculation on future earnings. higher prices encourage adoption and more adoption encourages higher prices in a feedback cycle, all of which means higher earnings for coinbase. coinbase has huge market share, so what's good for crypto is good for them, and that's how the stock market will treat it.
453  Economy / Speculation / Re: empire market exit scam = caused the price to drop yesterday? on: September 04, 2020, 10:54:54 PM
it's already been offline for 2 weeks. everyone assumed it was an exit scam like a week ago........so no, i'd say it had nothing to do with the drop over the last couple days.

the bitcoin market doesn't react much to DNM news anyway. it isn't 2013 anymore---don't go expecting another silk road crash like october 2013. that is never gonna happen again.

it's pretty well understood at this point that all darknet marketplaces either exit scam or get shut down eventually. i feel like this is already priced in.

Ovbiously they wouldn't deposit the coins on the exchange the same day.

i doubt they're flooding exchanges with the coins. we're also only talking about 2-3k BTC anyway. the exit scam may have played some role in the drop, but i certainly wouldn't say it was the cause.
454  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Are bitmex just trying to scam with their kyc policy? on: September 04, 2020, 10:39:36 PM
There's a chance dexes will take over though too?
One would hope so. I will believe it when I see it. Most people want a hand to hold and big daddy to abuse them.

Some day a properly slick one will turn up but even then I wonder how many will take it up.

proper UI and atomic trade matching will make a world of difference. i see the push towards full blown AML/KYC on centralized platforms, and the improvement and decentralization of DEXs as two sides of the same coin---both gradually driving liquidity towards DEXs.

from looking at the direction of bitcoin development, i believe hidden scripts and cross-chain atomic swaps are gonna become very important avenues for maintaining on-chain privacy. this will in turn become an important source of liquidity for DEXs, and as we all know that's what really matters when people choose which exchange to use---how thick the books are.
455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Andreessen and Rajaram joins Coinbase as Board of Directors on: September 04, 2020, 10:27:13 PM
Is this the preparation for a potential IPO? Coinbase Reportedly Planning to Go Public This Year—Paving the Way for the Next Phase of Crypto Adoption.

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According to sources, Coinbase has started planning for a stock market listing this year, which would make it the first major US cryptocurrency exchange to go public.

This is interesting and the timing wouldn't been perfect specially if bitcoin market continue to soar in the next two years. Yes, there are a lot of complains against Coinbase recently, but if this whole IPO happens next year, it might be another catalyst for the eventual bull run that we all have been waiting for.

it won't be an IPO. insiders say they are looking at a direct listing. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-coinbase-ipo-exclusive/exclusive-cryptocurrency-exchange-coinbase-readies-stock-market-listing-sources-idUSKBN24A21W

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One of the sources said that Coinbase, which was valued at more than $8 billion in its latest private fundraising round in 2018, is exploring going public via a direct listing instead of a traditional initial public offering (IPO).

an IPO would flood the market with shares and dilute the holdings of early investors. i think their plan is to use a direct listing to prevent such dilution and limit the number of shares on the open market. this will allow early investors to cash out at much more inflated prices.
456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: VPN for cryptocurrencies? on: September 04, 2020, 10:15:35 PM
Using a VPN isn't really going to help you that much in terms of security though. VPNs are mostly for privacy purposes; though I'm not sure with SurfShark. I'd personally recommend Mullvad.

one thing to keep in mind: any one of them could be a honeypot. that's the danger of centralized, opaque services.

i used to swear by PIA because their no-logging policy was tested twice in court, but then they got bought by kape technologies, who is known for collecting and selling user data. https://www.reddit.com/r/PrivateInternetAccess/comments/e0kq68/longtime_pia_user_here_run_dont_walk_away_from/

mullvad and windscribe seem to be the recommended alternatives now.

another option is to route your traffic over tor. wasabi wallet does this by default.
457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Everything you wanted to know about Grayscale BTC Trust but were afraid to ask! on: September 04, 2020, 05:36:17 PM
On a positive note: if the GBTC has amassed such a massive influx of money without proper institutional money, guess what might happen when/if the "real" institutions decide to invest!

where do you expect that proper institutional money to enter? i reckon with GBTC's ridiculous premium and 2% management fee, there are better options emerging. i know wilshire phoenix and fidelity are cooking up a bitcoin fund with a 0.9% expense ratio.

any idea what bakkt's custody fees are? all i can find are the original fact sheets that state there was a fee holiday through june 2020.
458  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Swiss Canton Zug to Accept Taxes in Bitcoin, Ether From Next Year on: September 03, 2020, 11:23:37 PM
Without a doubt, this will push another avenue for crypto adoption.

meh.

it's about as much of a push for adoption as at&t adding an option to pay your phone bill through bitpay. actually it's much smaller---based on zug's population vs at&t's customer base, at&t rolling out bitpay support reaches hundreds of times more people.

anyway, after the initial excitement about "bitcoin" support wears off, you come to realize that everyone just skips over it in the dropdown menu and pays with their credit/debit card or bank transfer as usual. and when you get right down to it, even if you do use bitcoin to pay your taxes (i recommend against it!) they are just getting paid swiss francs by a payment processor.
459  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When Bitcoin Maximalists are Promoting/Shilling an Altcoin on: September 03, 2020, 11:00:40 PM
if a legitimate company wants to do what they do in this space they should do it through legitimate and regulated channels such as going to stock market. but they don't. why? because they can get away with scam if they create an ICO. there is no regulation, no law or anything else that can prevent or prosecute them from or after scamming people.

if life has taught me anything, it's that laws and regulations do not stop people from scamming others, nor do they guarantee the success of an enterprise. do you have any idea how VC-backed startups and public companies fail and/or engage in fraud? even massive companies and those considered blue chip investments---enron, madoff investment securities, worldcom, tyco international are a few recent big ones that come to mind.

it's just a nanny state mentality that says we need the government to protect investors from the boogeyman. nanny state regulations create massive, massive barriers to market entry for perfectly legitimate enterprises---permitting and licensing fees, undue capital requirements, the need to hire legal teams for every area of compliance, the need to actively lobby regulators and legislators, etc. this is one of the key reasons why a handful of giant multi-national mega corporations are able consolidate every sector of industry. small businesses could never compete in this environment.

and that's exactly the value ICOs provide to small startups. they find loopholes in existing regulations to allow for much greater market access---for both fundraisers and investors. cross-border investment, micro-investment, no need for accredited investor restrictions.

retail investors like me are cut off from so many profitable high growth investment opportunities because of the SEC's accredited investor restrictions. i'm too poor to invest in high risk "regulated" ventures, which leaves me with conventional stocks, mutual funds, blue chips---all of which have extremely limited upside. gotta love the nanny state for protecting me! Roll Eyes

investors who are unwilling to engage in due diligence should pay the price IMO. that goes for ICOs, it goes for IPOs, it goes for angel investing. morons putting all their money in absurdly risky investments and then crying to the SEC is the reason we are where we are today. nobody fucking gauges investment risk anymore. everybody thinks profits should be handed to them on a silver platter. caveat emptor!
460  Economy / Gambling / Re: #4 Bitcointalk Poker Series @ SwC Poker (0.06 BTC, BIG BTC Ticket by SwC) on: September 03, 2020, 10:29:28 PM
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Thank you for explaining what is semi-bluff, but I think you miss the point here! You didn't have anything after flop and turn, you had outs that's true, but on your first 200 chips bet on flop would you pay all in to see that flush?!

on the flop, i was the favorite to win. i may not have had a made hand, but it's a little odd to say i didn't have anything when i was the most likely to win at showdown.

would i pay if you check-raised all-in? it depends on the situation---pot odds, whether i feel pot committed, whether i feel like gambling when i'm a 60/40 favorite etc. there are many situations where it would be acceptable to call, especially if i've made significant bets already.

Would you chase your outs in tournament without re-buys in the middle of the game?

i was not chasing draws. that usually implies passively calling down with bad odds. i rarely do that outside of multi-way pots that pay me off huge if i hit.

i was the preflop aggressor betting in position to a passive checker---big difference IMO.

on that AQ vs 77 hand, i'm sure if you hit one of your 6 non-diamond outs to a straight on the river, you wouldn't be complaining. i'm sure that open-ended straight draw factored into your decision to call the turn, right? and so you must understand the equity of draws even if it feels shitty when your opponents hit them. that's just poker.

Now it's late to talk about what we would do, but if I reraised you on flop and make a big raise on turn would you pay that river?

again, it depends on the pot odds, but quite possibly. i would maybe just 4-bet shove all-in on the flop, especially in a MTT where i'm looking to build a stack as early as possible or get knocked out.

if you check-raised me on the flop and again on the turn, then yes i would call. without knowing the exact stacks/pot, i assume i'd be pot committed by that point.

And don't get me wrong, what bothers me how similar both hands are and how you got flush on the river in both hands!

the chances to make a flush by the river when on a flopped flush draw = 35%. (and that's not taking into consideration straight draws or draws to a higher pair)

it's a very frequent occurrence, so it should be no surprise that it happened twice. this is why flush draw + open-ended straight draws are extremely valuable semi-bluffing hands because you will improve to a straight or flush by the river the majority of the time. by default, that makes it stronger than any pocket pair on an unpaired flop board.

what you're also not considering is all the times i did not hit my outs by the river, including those times where we did not show down and you did not see my hand. you're thinking "this guy is so lucky every time" (who do you think i am, @Hhampuz? Tongue) because you have selective memory for these 2 hands. in truth i am running quite bad in this series.....
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