All the project details are included in the white paper. Looking at it, you can see if the project is promising or not. You should read ICOs white papers before investing, and regularly check how project is going.
You need a "White paper" for that ? Really ? Wouldn't knowing the basic idea be enough ? Wouldn't knowing that the ICO by design is scammy be enough ? You are leap frogging over common sense people. The reason you are doing that is becasue you WANT to profit.. off of "schemes" ..that are tacked onto a block-chain / token. So you are LOOKING for a scheme to invest in. A scheme as in something not a currency but some alternate use case for a block-chain. You are interested in the scheme because you want to know if the scheme holds promise of profits. You are in fact simply scam aficianado's.. pushing ICO's to dump for BITCOIN PROFITS. And dev's LOVE crypto because they are free to be anon while pushing ENDLESS scheme's while rigging them and manipulating them free from regulation. (like in the real stock markets) Go hard idiots.. All of earth watching see's what i see. They are not falling for the charade. You're an unusual guy, aren't you spoetnik? Being the only honest one here.. yeah. Have anything to say about the topic NOOB ? Maybe jiggle your little dick-holster at me when you get to Junior status Investard.  |
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All the project details are included in the white paper. Looking at it, you can see if the project is promising or not. You should read ICOs white papers before investing, and regularly check how project is going.
You need a "White paper" for that ? Really ? Wouldn't knowing the basic idea be enough ? Wouldn't knowing that the ICO by design is scammy be enough ? You are leap frogging over common sense people. The reason you are doing that is becasue you WANT to profit.. off of "schemes" ..that are tacked onto a block-chain / token. So you are LOOKING for a scheme to invest in. A scheme as in something not a currency but some alternate use case for a block-chain. You are interested in the scheme because you want to know if the scheme holds promise of profits. You are in fact simply scam aficianado's.. pushing ICO's to dump for BITCOIN PROFITS. And dev's LOVE crypto because they are free to be anon while pushing ENDLESS scheme's while rigging them and manipulating them free from regulation. (like in the real stock markets) Go hard idiots.. All of earth watching see's what i see. They are not falling for the charade. |
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You all are ignoring what they are.
As in HOW THEY WORK and whether that is appropriate and.. fair.
Why did dev's drop mining coins and ramp up output (more coins) ?
You are all skipping over the ideology of crypto that was established many years before an ICO existed.
Lets recap.. when Ripple or Ethereum launched they were considered scammy..
Because they were an ICO.
That is history people.
Problem is the newer crowd joining in kept lowering the bar.. simply out of greed.
Don't kid yourselves this is not about "crypto currencies"
It is purely about profits.
Period.
So what do ICO's have to do with a crypto currency ?
Not a god damn fucking thing.
They are a scam vehicle.. a new age version of an old pyramid scheme scam design.
Can any of you with a straight face say the ICO distribution method is an improvement over a mined coin like Bitcoin ?
If Satoshi wanted to ICO Bitcoin he would have chucklefuck's.
All we have here is losers.. shitbirds and profiteers and investards.
The morality nose dived hard when mass SCRYPT cloning took hold and worthless garbage like Doge coin exploded in popularity.
The reality is crypto outgrew morality.. it has no need for it anymore and left it for dead.
And unlike all of you i will not contribute to this bullshit.
I quit.
I never have nor will i ever own or support an ICO coin in any way.
Apparently for a little Bitcoin "dust" many of you will.
Crypto is in fact being killed off.
It is now stained forever..
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@romani245 I agree but what bothers me the most is the "coin" is rigged. Pretty simple.. a coin that is not launched fairly has no real future beyond profiteer investard pump & dumps on exchanges. And do the pajeet noobs here factor that in and care ? Of course not.. they see BTC dust for the taking by pushing a fake Airdrop scheme. I am wasting my time here. All these idiot noobs think they are investors. They have no clue what crypto-ideology is. So morality is of no concern to them.. especially if its going to get in the way of their profits. This Altcoin bullshit is scammy garbage. People who participate in this idiotic crap spending REAL MONEY know better and can not be deterred. They are intent to cash in and cash out and "bro down" as Cartman said. Watch South Park - S18E01 - Go Fund Yourself to see what this moronic shit has become.  ..and honestly i am tired of lecturing the greedy little asshole noob pieces of shit that are flooding in here. Fuck 'em.. go fund yourself pajeets ! |
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Those are not exactly valid points, as their team consists of a bunch of other people who all have relevant experience, maybe not exclusively in blockchain tech but in overall finance and development. Change offers everything TenX, Monaco, Polybius, ... offers, but also everything a bank offers, including insurance and loans.
Why would we put our cryptos in a bank? We won't. Change isn't ment to be a centralized financial entity but rather a decentralized banking network, fully supported by the network.
To say that you are a "Blockchain Expert" when you worked as an Inside Sales Rep until 1.5 months ago is an outright lie. To say that you are a "Blockchain Developer" when you've never developed any blockchain is an exaggeration at best, or a lie at worst. If the team is willing to lie about this, you'll never know what else they're willing to lie about. I only spent 5 minutes to find out the above. Here's what I found in another 2 minutes: Change-Bank's "CTO, Blockchain Developer" was an iOS Developer at Montise Create until March 2017. Cannot find any info on Montise Create. How knowledgeable is this guy in managing developers, or about banking, or about cryptos? How would Change be able to give loans, if people do not give them money (cryptos)? Someone doesn't understand how banking works. What problem is Change solving in insurance? I consider myself to be a cryptocurrency expert as well, as I can answer 95% of questions people ask me about it, because I've spend the last 9 months studying hours upon hours a day, learning how to trade, read graphs, research dev teams, and so on. But, if you look at my resume, you'll see that I 'technically' have 0 experience in that area because I spent the last years working in insurance. The company you're looking for is called Monitise Create, probably a spelling error. I've seen multiple startups grow to multimillion companies over the course of 2 years, not because they had experienced managers but because those managers were able to learn on the spot. One of my best friends is CFO in 2 LLC's and 1 international trading company. The only experience he has is learning on the spot. I've grown my portfolio with over 700% in less than 6 months and by the end of this year I should have doubled my monthly income through trading and consulting on the side. My experience is reading on fora like this one, and spending hours upon hours studying trading and finance when other people (my clients) binge watch another netflix series. Experience doesn't prove as much as people say, your attitude is much more important. Change will be able to give loans through the network. It'll take away some anonymity, as it'll require background checks, but I'm sure it'll be more like going short or margin trading on an exchange. I imagine it'll be like me investing 1BTC my friend loaned me and giving him back 2BTC 1 month later. Change will solve mostly insurance problems when travelling overseas and you don't have the time to arrange insurance with a standard company. It will use the blockchain safety and speed to provide insurance a lot faster. You missed the point.. these are NOT SUPPOSE to be "Startups" or "companies"  You are suppose to be here to help contribute to getting an open source decentralized crypto currency adopted.Not helping shady dev's fabricate centralized fake little crypto companies for ROI's. YOU ..are a cancer, and all the other pajeets that flooded in here.You have the fucking nerve to call yourself a "crypto expert" ? Wrong you are an idiot and have the same retarded idiotic mind set as all the other noobs here. Wow for a second I wasn't taking you seriously, that is until you used that big, bold font. Both intimidating and impressive. these are not suppose to be startups or companies'
How old are you? Do you have any idea how business is done? you are suppose to be here to help contribute to getting an open source decentralized crypto currency adopted
I'm sure the crypto world would be worth 140 billion if there would be no companies involved and literally everything would be decentralized, no devs, no exchanges, everything is free for everyone lol dumbfuck Not helping shady dev's fabricate centralized fake little crypto companies for ROI's.
If you're talking about the devs/company, than yeah that part is centralized, but guess what, eth/btc/... every single coin you ever heard of has centralization dumbass, coins don't appear out of nowhere YOU ..are a cancer, and all the other pajeets that flooded in here.
You really seem angry and frustrated and I literally have no idea how my comments could have made you like this, so I'm guessing you had a pretty bad childhood. Did your uncle touch you on your weewee when you were a child? You have the fucking nerve to call yourself a "crypto expert" ?
Yes. No. You are a fucking noob and don't get it. There SHOULDN'T be a White Paper in the first place. The crypto-currency should be launched working.. |
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Those are not exactly valid points, as their team consists of a bunch of other people who all have relevant experience, maybe not exclusively in blockchain tech but in overall finance and development. Change offers everything TenX, Monaco, Polybius, ... offers, but also everything a bank offers, including insurance and loans.
Why would we put our cryptos in a bank? We won't. Change isn't ment to be a centralized financial entity but rather a decentralized banking network, fully supported by the network.
To say that you are a "Blockchain Expert" when you worked as an Inside Sales Rep until 1.5 months ago is an outright lie. To say that you are a "Blockchain Developer" when you've never developed any blockchain is an exaggeration at best, or a lie at worst. If the team is willing to lie about this, you'll never know what else they're willing to lie about. I only spent 5 minutes to find out the above. Here's what I found in another 2 minutes: Change-Bank's "CTO, Blockchain Developer" was an iOS Developer at Montise Create until March 2017. Cannot find any info on Montise Create. How knowledgeable is this guy in managing developers, or about banking, or about cryptos? How would Change be able to give loans, if people do not give them money (cryptos)? Someone doesn't understand how banking works. What problem is Change solving in insurance? I consider myself to be a cryptocurrency expert as well, as I can answer 95% of questions people ask me about it, because I've spend the last 9 months studying hours upon hours a day, learning how to trade, read graphs, research dev teams, and so on. But, if you look at my resume, you'll see that I 'technically' have 0 experience in that area because I spent the last years working in insurance. The company you're looking for is called Monitise Create, probably a spelling error. I've seen multiple startups grow to multimillion companies over the course of 2 years, not because they had experienced managers but because those managers were able to learn on the spot. One of my best friends is CFO in 2 LLC's and 1 international trading company. The only experience he has is learning on the spot. I've grown my portfolio with over 700% in less than 6 months and by the end of this year I should have doubled my monthly income through trading and consulting on the side. My experience is reading on fora like this one, and spending hours upon hours studying trading and finance when other people (my clients) binge watch another netflix series. Experience doesn't prove as much as people say, your attitude is much more important. Change will be able to give loans through the network. It'll take away some anonymity, as it'll require background checks, but I'm sure it'll be more like going short or margin trading on an exchange. I imagine it'll be like me investing 1BTC my friend loaned me and giving him back 2BTC 1 month later. Change will solve mostly insurance problems when travelling overseas and you don't have the time to arrange insurance with a standard company. It will use the blockchain safety and speed to provide insurance a lot faster. You missed the point.. these are NOT SUPPOSE to be "Startups" or "companies" You are suppose to be here to help contribute to getting an open source decentralized crypto currency adopted.Not helping shady dev's fabricate centralized fake little crypto companies for ROI's. YOU ..are a cancer, and all the other pajeets that flooded in here.You have the fucking nerve to call yourself a "crypto expert" ? Wrong you are an idiot and have the same retarded idiotic mind set as all the other noobs here. |
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Sadly once again Spoetnik is right here. Most of the people who backed 'whatever' kind of ICO have no idea what they are doing.
These "investors" were baited by the promise of fast money every ICO is spreading. When they realize that they need to wait for potential profit to happen,
which may never occur if the ICO will fail, suddenly this picture looks not so bright. I can wait to see what Chinese ICO ban will do to the ICO scene - hopefully, we will see less of trash ICO projects.
You missed the point.. ICO = SCAM. Not this ohhh... only some of them are routine you all harp on relentlessly. This is not Kickstarter. And they banned crypto bullshit too.. so did Paypal and China half the world. ICO's are are a crooked perverted rigged scammy abomination of the idea of a crypto currency. They are not crypto coins. They are simply a new version of an old scam. It's how they work.. you can't side step how they function. It's like saying oh some PONZI SCHEMES are legit because they pay "investors" (Willing scam participants) ..that is fucking retarded ..yet that is what you post here 24/7 NOOB ACCOUNTS. |
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Reading the testimonials of traditional scams online..
You would read how they are pressured to sucker in others in the hopes of getting out and if they are lucky breaking even.
THAT is what this forum is about.
Bullshitting for BTC dust while coin "dev's" rake in a fortune.
The reality is here idiots.. you SHOULDN'T be supporting this bullshit.
There is nothing more to it than that .
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At least the site was transparent about informing users about it. I'm not surprised anyway that sites do these. Especially the streaming sites where you have to stream from the site. Which is why I use some streaming apps that take the feed from such sites. Lesson for all: use ad block. Nothing is free in this world. Stream and torrent, help people mine crypto. Nice.
They weren't "transparent" about it at all.. that is why it made world news. |
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When i download torrent i mine monero?
Nope. It is saying if you visit the web page. The ability for a web site to do that already existed before this story. So it has little to do with torrents. In other words if you have a web site you too can go an add the coin mining to it. So.. This could be happening on any site with almost any Altcoin.. Monero or others. The Javascript is in web pages and is coded to mine coins.. via the web browser. Go here for more info on it.. https://coin-hive.com/documentation/minerI can't.. i blocked it in my hosts file  |
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All aspects need to be looked at.
What it is for starters.. then it's implementation.
Then.. how it is handled.
I say it fails on all accounts.
And there is also a lot of suspicious aspects to it.
Such as who is behind it.
And the fact TOR coin seemed to be what this was born from.. which was labeled a scam.
Too many suspicious coincidental shit with a rigged scammy coin design.
Then we have Lauda pointing out the account farming.
Obviously this is shady rigged crap.
And.. the ONLY reason anyone is supporting it is because they think they can get some BTC dust while the owners stake their 100000000000000000000000 coins.
Classic story in crypto actually.
Rigged scheme coin bullshit gets launched.. it is rigged so they dev gets paid a fortune.
The scene goes along with it for a tiny slice of the pie.
They are as usual co-opted.
Crypto = money vs morality.
And we see which side won long ago.
Crypto is dead and scammy.
Dead because it can never go anywhere after this much idiotic bullshit has gone down.
It has no future.
I know that also because NONE OF YOU make any effort at all to get "your coin" adopted and used.
You don't care.
You care long enough to ask why someone else did not get it used then long enough to DUMP them for BITCOIN PROFITS on an exchange then move to the next scammy ass retarded shitcoin number thirteen thousand and four hundred and twenty one.
This shit is a joke.
And so is this rigged scheme coin.
@DeepOnion
You have a Junior account.
You are a fucking noob.. your opinion is dog-shit.
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If you have the audicaty, no the nerve.. no the fucking god damn gall to call yourselves "investors" ? Then fucking act like it ! Step one pajeets.. get your shithead ass's on Google and search what a sound investment is. I have a feeling they will not advise you to buy shitcoins in the tune of 100's of millions of unaccounted dollars to nameless shady dickheads on TheTalk. Grow the fuck up idiots. Start acting your age..oh sorry i forgot many of you are little shits playing stock market with Mommy's money here. Note: there is no age requirement to get burned on shitcoins. Paid your crypto-taxes ? Regulations ? They are gradually coming so you are playing with fire. I am tired of idiots claiming they are investors in crypto simply because they ran to Poloniex and bought some 100% PREMINED scheme "tokens" for some crypto related scheme coin bullshit for profits. They buy them then kick back and scratch their heads wondering whey they didn't make 10000000000000% profit yet. WHY are you "investing" ? If you can figure that out then you got my earlier point. I seen a documentary about the housing bubble crash world wide and it outlined what a good "investment" was and it was common sense. So obvious i refuse to outline it. Participating in pointless scammy unregulated crypto bullshit for ROI's is your problem pajeets. You are all happily flushing the crypto-toilet for a few bucks now.. then a sound investment later. Crypto is a joke. And that is half the reason for my lack of interest in this moronic crap. The other lately has been summer time + my PC screen gets as hot as a nuclear reactor melting down. And surfing the web with a tablet or phone is gay. |
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heh. This is just as bad as the bittorrent bitcoin miner, and they claimed to give the bitcoin to some "charity"
Yeah i recall something about that too and didn't Utorrent bundle one with them program way back too ? I am using 2x still.. right now. AND.. i was just at TPB and they are not doing it right now. Maybe the bad press across the web has turned them off the idea. By the way the cocky little TPB mod that banned my account XPMULE years ago can blow me  That goes for the retarded fag mods at MetalSucks that banned my Disqus account the other day too. And Neowin.net also.. Ahh well if i name all the places that banned me i'd be here all day HAHAHHA Hey internet.. kiss my fucking ass pricks LOL You all think i give a fuck what people think ? RECAP: Disable JS on TPB.. with plugins like Noscript etc. |
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I never read a white paper in my life.
I am not an "investor" either.
Nor have i ever owned an "ICO" coin (which is not a crypto currency)
They are scheme "coins" for profit.
ICO = SCAM
..all of them.
WHY ? Because of HOW THEY WORK !
I am a crypto currency supporter.. not a shithead Investard profiteer looking for scammy schemes to profit from.
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0. Pick a coin that can be mined and get 0.0000001 SAT's Take that and trade with it on an Exchange. I did it that way and made and cashed out and spent about 12 fucking god damn grand. And i could have made more but i was sickened by the shit hole scene this has become. Only a moron would send real money to shitty ass crypto bullshit web services None of you are EVER going to be in my league. |
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I wonder how many people would volunteer to sign up to do it.. permission / knowledge it's happening is key.
Doing it with out any consent is not too classy.
Imagine you show up on random sites now and they 100% max out your CPU.
Ok with that ?
Side Note:
It was TPB + LTC that got me into crypto.. years ago they had a donation address on all pages for both BTC + LTC.
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What does those 2 previous comments have to do with the scammer fraud rpietila ?
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