Lol maybe we should rename it DramaCoin or SoapOperaCoin - but here is a little more drama: You can call HEX a tool of commerce and someday it might be -but there is no commerce right now - so HEX exists as the shadow of Heisenberg and our projection of the meaning of Heisenberg - and I think Heisenberg would have snapped Putin's neck given the chance - or maybe not - maybe Heisenberg would have dealt his thugs some meth and made a profit - wait I'm coming around as I write this - Heisenberg was a neutral man of commerce and thus HEX should be a neutral tool of commerce!! Fuck me...yeah I have changed my mind...(but still think the Tartar cause is a noble one).

Sorry but HEISENBERG always picked sides and I think HEX should have the BALLS to do that too.

Guys please stop squabbling - Placebo's Tartar idea is by far the best thing that HEX has going for it right now - it might do good and get us press - But let's keep working together - I agree that asking for funds at this stage is lame - we should be working together to get the coin more well known with whatever ideas we can work together on - Tartar don't go you know that HEX is a great branding opportunity that is what drew you here and once we get our shit together this coin will take off and we will all be kicking ourselves for not buying more when it was at 1...d DEVs it is good to see you coming back from the dead and I agree with Kros that we all have to figure out what we can contribute - Placebo already has figured that out his TARTAR idea is awesome (I still have to send you funds don't go away)...

Hey look at that if we win coinok they give us a paper wallet and 4 other things - I bet we could buy the votes for less than 400 bucks...

Come on buy some HEX at 1 people and dream big - let's make BIG things happen with BIG ideas, not little ideas like a paper wallet

I got to admit that a paper wallet does sound pretty cool, but I don't think any hackers are going to be coming after HEX at this point in time with a ten foot pole -- which makes the idea of a paper wallet for HEX moot right now.  It might make more sequential sense to introduce a HEX paper wallet when we have a functioning HEX economy. Heisenberg hex.com do you have any other tricks up your sleeve? The sell orders at 1 are building up and I think that is because we need DEVs to come out with an ambitious plan, not a paper wallet. (Again the paper wallet does sound cool but it is probably not the most logical time to introduce it.)

We should focus on an idea that is going to blow the socks off people!

I'll deposit when I get home from work...

I think what Saul is saying is that we have to come up with a plan. We need our coin to actually have a special purpose if it is going to survive and prosper. 99% of coins are pure speculation bc they offer nothing. But if your coin offers something substantial the sky is the limit. Saul is right to be brainstorming that is exactly what we need right now. We need to reinvent HEX as something with substance. I don't think it matters if HEX is trading or not right now - we need to reinvent. I don't think everyone would dump if we returned in a couple of weeks with a bunch of services - but we could also keep trading while this was going on...

Crazy Idea 7: What about a cam sight where the girls accept HEX as payment? If we could pull that off the HEX market would get liquid and would start shooting up in value literally overnight. And it would be in the interest of the girls to do this bc they wouldn't have to split the money with anyone - if it was set up on Skype - and if they held their HEX it could go up in value if a cam economy was being built behind it.

Saul your betting idea is a good one and you are right that alt coins are in danger of getting killed.  Everything feels like pump and dump right now because (as you said) no services are being offered.   

Yeah, any gangster style gambling games/ or just games that accept HEX might get us some momentum.  If we want HEX to work in the long run and not just be another dump coin we have to figure out how to add value to it...which puts everyone in a good spot right now because the price is low.  So if anyone has a really good idea for how to add value to a coin why start your own coin? You could just buy up some cheap HEX and join this community and add your idea to this coin...

Crazy Idea 6: Russian Roulette style gambling game with HEX.  You play against one other person.  6 shots in the gun.  One shot per person until one dies.  The winner takes all the HEX.  Basically programming for a 1/6 outcome, but with some simple graphic about how the other person just got shot in the head -- maybe use a Deer Hunter graphic or something... Actually I guess the odds change after every shot 1/6, 2/6, 3/6, 4/6/ 5/5, 6/6 -- b/c you keep having one less empty chamber -- unless you spin the chamber each time to reset the odds --  I know nothing about programming though so this is probably way more complicated than it seems...

I think that is an AWESOME IDEA Saul.  Heisenberg is all about reinvention.  It is time for HEX to reinvent/reboot...

THIS IS AWESOME PLACEBO NICE WORK!!!

When the new website goes up (if there is a new website) there needs to be a page displaying that HEX can be used to support the Crimean Tartars and also explaining the plight of Crimean Tartars in a Russian controlled Crimea

HEX for Tartars in Crimea! I like the ring that has...

I think local papers/internet blogs would pic up a story like this for sure and from there it might make it to larger outlets - If you could make this work it could be a big boost for HEX. It would probably be easier if you had the store/stores set up first - take a few photos - and we'd have to figure out a way for the Tatars to claim their HEX. It could get big.  There are 650,000 Crimean Tartars, which is larger than the population of Iceland. Maybe every six months or so we could have a new charitable cause but frame the cause in such a way that Heisenberg is taking something on in the world...

Charities often keep 90% of the donations for administrative costs but moving money with cryptocurrency is easier - if HEX could do this much more efficiently and say get 100% of the donation to the people this could make us quite we'll known quickly. Also it would be in the best interest for a grocery store in Crimea to accept HEX bc it would get them more business...

You are going to Crimea? Where are you from? Maybe if you could get one local grocery store to accept HEX that would be enough. Donations could come in worldwide bc it is very easy to get HEX and then send it to a Tatarian HEX donation spot. Tatarians could claim their HEX by...we'll we would have to figure that out. Do they use computer cafés or do they have their own computers? We could makes slogans like Heisenberg takes on Putin or HEX for Progress or something like that.

Connecting HEX with a relief effort would be good promotion...

I think you summed it up Krostue as to why it is time for this coin to move on from the original team - for one thing I think they have posted like 3 comments lol- And Krostue it sounds like a crappy situation you are in - But there is a lot of energy here to move the coin forward. If you have some coins you should hold them because in the future they will be worth more and you will be rewarded for your early work on this project...

Saul I see your point maybe the crime aspect of the show is too seedy and leaves out a lot of the potential of the coin and what Heisenberg really represents. Still, bad ass public figures and maybe HEX hotties are not criminal things - just rebellious things that might help us get more popular and build a community

I agree that HEX is a great abbreviation and that there must be some as yet unrealized way to capitalize on that.

I don't agree with Parkole that we need to have these discussions in private - transparency is not a bad thing - and the most important part of any coin is the community around the coin and these debates/discussions show that we have a community who are willing to be in it for the long haul.

Crazy Idea 5: Many of the decisions that Heisenberg made were quite unexpected and innovative ( even if in a criminal way). And the identity of Heisenberg remained a mystery for most - like Hank. So maybe we find a way to marry HEX to the innovative things in the world and the mysterious things in the world. We could flip the Most Wanted concept on its head and have a HEX Most Wanted page on the new website where we offer free HEX to people who have recently made any type of innovative contributions to the world such as scientific, artistic, musical or whatever. We could use a HEX voting system to nominate them and vote for them. These people probably would not claim their prizes in which case we could roll them over but it would help us build a community and perhaps get us press...

Crazy idea 4: What if we create a web page on the new website that we are going to make (if the reigns gets turned over) for HEX hotties or Jesse's Groupies or something like that. And just like the Barstool Sports website has a hometown hottie of the day contest - we could have a weekly or monthly hottie contest and give them free HEX based on the votes that we get in HEX for the different girls ( if no real girls enter which they probably wouldn't at the start we could just use pics of public figure hotties).

Wow yeah that is outside my scope of fun too but we should immediately give that website some free HEX and get them to accept HEX so that we can put that fact on the heisenberg hex website -- that would have GREAT promotional value - there probably isn't anything more bad ass on the internet than felons in fist fights, so yeah they should be accepting HEX!!

Fuck these coin voting scams don't you see we have to bust out of the coin mainstream with an idea! We have to become the voting machine.

For one thing convicted felons can't vote when they are in jail or are on probation. But if we create a system to vote for bad ass public figures convicted felons can always vote!

That little nugget is a piece of promotion right there Placebo bc it is the type of ridiculous comment that gets people talking...and when people talk they get interested and when people get interested the coin gets popular. Alt coins right now ( perhaps pre-working ethereum) are just a big popularity contest. They are not used for commerce. So we have to figure out how to be the most popular if we want to win. We are back in high school Placebo and the jocks sitting with Auroa coin and Spain coin are beating us bc like it or not they had a better idea...

No I don't want it to be a scam coin but I am trying to think outside the box so that we are doing something that no one else is doing - That's what gets you publicity...and even if aurora and Spain coin do collapse they did reach some dizzying heights first - they made it that high bc they thought outside the box (at least Aurora did). People probably didn't think a 50% premined coin would do so well - but people crave change and they create a good story. It is like that line in Batman that goes something like "you have to become more than a man you have to become an idea." The concept of Heisenberg as a launching pad is great but we have to make Heisenberg more than a coin we have to make Heisenberg an idea...so no I don't think it would be a scam to create a community of people no matter what methods we use to connect them.

I thought that merely having a coin based on Heisenberg would be enough to create a community because that show was so popular but if that is not enough we should be open to thinking outside the box.

The point is that Heisenberg is more than a character in a television show. What does he represent to you? What ideas do have for the creation of a community based on Heisenberg? I feel like there are a lot of possibilities and any of them are better than just doing the same old same old...