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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 05:04:25 PM
i think 0.01btc will be tough to break.
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 05:04:00 PM
boom boom all the way maan
443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:57:49 PM
I have registered cravecoin.slack.com.  Slack is a GREAT communication tool for building a community for a coin like this.

If you'd like to join, please PM me an email address. Unfortunately I need to send the registration invite via email.  This email address only has to be used once to register so if you'd like to use a burner, please feel free to do so.


Invites sent to those who have requested so far!!  Come join us!!

you can join here without any invites join the chatroom

http://digitalcurrencyinvestors.com/2015/04/crave-coin-3/

apparently theymos is there lol
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:47:13 PM
guys what do you think of this site

http://digitalcurrencyinvestors.com/2015/04/crave-coin-3/
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:46:34 PM
114btc to 0.01btc wow
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:43:02 PM
Just reminding you that when Dark went ballistic, it went $60000000 with market cap. It has over 5M total coins... and do the math with our coin supply.

its gonna take alot more than this to beat dash coin. that coin is in a different league. people are liking this coin for its return on creating a masternode thats why its going up. question is when will it stop
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:41:55 PM
Hey guys, Crave will be crossing the $1 million market cap point soon and this will take us into a new league where more substance is needed here from us and dev.

I think it's time to start shifting this board from a price-centric circle-jerk board into a board of substance about Crave's projects otherwise the FUD and misinformation or lack of information for new potential Cravers will drive them away.

JL



No offense, but it sounds like some of the things you mention you're trying to split the community - (having separate threads and everything)

A lot of everything you listed is already covered on http://www.cravecoin.info



If you look around at the million dollar coins, they all have separate forum sites which add to their legitimacy and help newbies navigate the coin, understand the coin and use the coin.
Newbies shouldn't have to a)swim through dozens of pages looking for information on the coin but instead finding nothing but posts on price and pumps and pictures of dancing Putin; b) swim through dozens of pages to find out who is legitimately cares about the coins future and has information.
And us 'old-timers' of the coin, shouldn't have to swim through this crap either just to find actual content.

Yes, I know of that site. It's a good start...needs a forum similar to dashtalk.org...needs a thorough masternode setup guide for Windows users and perhaps add some screenshots...needs a redesign, IMO.

yes indeed i do think digitalcurrencyinvestors.com will be the replacement to launch altcoins its more organised everything in one place. spoke with the owner he was around, live prices and coin market data for each coin will be added
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:40:17 PM
this is a epic ride i really dont know what to do with my coins got 11500 of them should i wait for 0.01.
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE 0.52M, Dark Assets = Embrace The Dark = MASTERNODE HARDFORK APR 8 on: April 09, 2015, 04:39:34 PM

I have registered cravecoin.slack.com.  Slack is a GREAT communication tool for building a community for a coin like this.

If you'd like to join, please PM me an email address. Unfortunately I need to send the registration invite via email.  This email address only has to be used once to register so if you'd like to use a burner, please feel free to do so.


Looks interesting but we shouldn't have info be behind a registration wall and we certainly shouldn't have potential users have to register through you (no offense) unless you are awake 24-7-365.
JL


Here, at the bottom of this link, you can set it up so anyone can join

https://slack.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201330256-Inviting-new-members-to-your-Slack-team

As soon as that's done, im in!

you could join here

http://digitalcurrencyinvestors.com/2015/04/crave-coin-3/

got chatroom the whole lot. site is specifically for cryptocurrencies. dev can edit it the info on that page. i saw someone said they gave dev the password
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE HiPOS 40MB blk 0.52M addrindex,stealth,Tor,BLUR = Embrace The Dark = on: April 05, 2015, 11:12:55 AM
Weird how this thread turns dead when the pumping stops isn't it.

Its just a bear trap ,look at buy support its above 48 BTC .

i agree i just think whale selling his stash. great run here hope it continues, over to unreal coin now for some great profits to buy up more crave if it all goes well
451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] CRAVE HiPOS 40MB blk 0.52M addrindex,stealth,Tor,BLUR = Embrace The Dark = on: April 03, 2015, 05:27:30 PM

not at the moment were heading down. we have like 4 days until any news of nodes. 1st date missed now  there is doubt of second date so people will be cautious. 30k is possible doubt is not good
452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 08:01:05 PM
sent you a PM
453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 07:54:23 PM
anyway its no point its your coin do what you wish, do not take it as fud its the same concern i addressed when it was at 400sats. ive not changed it. good luck with your coin. as far as investors are concerned you can profit given the supply being dried youl see what happens

454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 07:52:21 PM
conclusion i can't see it working.

my approach is far fairer and less manipulative

been working on it for over 3 months now.

i was more interested in the credit system but it seem like the credit system is for the nodes.

my credit system would have been for anyone.

the whole purpose of it would be to provide loans to anyone as long you fit the requirement of the lender. the lender then uses the credit system to assess whether or not he should lend.

now to make use of the coin there are many factors to giving a credit score, like how many coins you hold in your wallet daily, how much you spend previous loans etc. you can then increase loan requests by providing details of yourself. this creates a profile and by creating a score on spending encourages the user to use the coin for their personal spending thus fulfilling the purpose of being a alternative currency.

ofcourse scams are gonna happen so to reduce this and effort in stopping them the best thing is to make lenders work hard to build a profile. increasing the fee will not help as scammers will pay $100, $1million if they have too as long as it turns them a profit so fee does not matter.

have 5 tiers where you can only lend max in each level then depending on history they move up a level. each level is hard and therefore they wouldn't want to scam as it wouldn't be worth it. you can require them to hold x amount as escrow too.

you can move up levels by providing details of yourself.

building a successful credit system is what i am trying to create and i saw this coin thinking it could do the same.
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 07:35:33 PM
do you think price will go up all the time. i think it won't as more nodes will be created and when nodes released big dumps because of the cut supply increase price model you have here. the only reason why someone would make a node is to make money of the increase right. now if they think price wont go up they wont buy as the weekly return would not be worth it at whatever level you buy

BN's will provide services, (loans, escrow etc.) for which they will earn remuneration. Are you getting it yet?

It's not all about the bloody price.  Tongue

and the little amount of nodes there are will make that market manipulative. just like how under 8 major banks are in the uk managing trillions of funds
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDITS | BITTREX | YPOOL | EMPOEX | BITBANK | NEW UPDATE 02/18 (CCC) on: March 27, 2015, 07:33:42 PM
i just cant see a good rate of return buying 250k at 1000sats is 2.5btc = $686 weekly payment 0.01btc-0.02btc = $5.4 is it reall worth it. i would only ask that if it was reduced it would be much interesting and attractive. not worth it for me

In this ecosystem, there is no easy money. If you want to earn you have to actually do something, be it investment, offering services or even just mining. But keep in mind that as interest increases so does mining difficulty, and so does price. However , as the trust protocol matures Banks will be more willing to loan out funds. If we allow any small interest to have bank then we risk scammers running fly by night operations resulting in problems for the average user. The investment has to be large enough to discourage such people and also reflect the commitment of the owner to providing the service.

Allow me to correct you a little, then think over what i say.

It actually costs 1.8 BTC right now to purchase enough for a bank node. So let's do some math, since hashrate doubled over the last few hours.

You are now only mining ~ 2500 BCR a week,  at current rates that is 0.017 BTC. And that is mining with some serious hardware to compete in this environment.

Randomuser1 instead spends 3.6 BTC and sets up two nodes with an additional 25K BCR for operations. He is 1/20 existing nodes and earns ~ 2000 BCR per week for his nodes. He will earn 0.04 BTC per week just for having the nodes. This means 9 weeks his nodes are already in the black.

Because he is a bank he can now perform operations such as escrow, Insurance and contracts.

Say in the first week he takes a 80k BCR contract for development of the Android mobile wallet and negotiates investment insurance for 40K BCR @ 5% rate. He then manages to do the job with 70K BCR. He pays his insurance agent their 5% and keeps the rest. So of the 10K profit, he pays 2K insurance, leaving him with 8k BCR, or 0.16 BTC.

His total for that week is 0.2 BTC. Depending on how much liquid BCR he has , he may have taken on smaller jobs like insuring your payment for some odd jobs in the crypto-world. which can potentially increase his total earnings. The only limit to how any contracts he can do is his monetary constraints and demand for his services.

Say the next week a worthwhile individual  decides to start a new asset/coin but they lack the funds to pull it off, they approach hi as a bank to lend them the funds and help set it up, in exchange say for a 3 % premine, or a hard-coded 3% of every block. If it is a good investment that is managed well, the bank can make untold profits by indulging in such activity. This also benefits our ecosystem either through the insurance one may take out on their investment or by the resulting stimulus of the removal/addition of large chunks of coin at times, as well as attracting more users, investors and entrepreneurs.

Note that once a person starts turning a profit, they are likely to buy more BCR and expand their operations. This creates a lot of buy pressure, resulting in even higher prices.

At a later date, our random user may find that maintaining two different nodes is too much work, especially when they start processing loan requests. So he may decide to sell his node at a 20% profit. That is 300k BCR which may be worth 9 BTC or even more depending on market conditions.


The PoS fad has ruined the average user mentality in that they were getting used to easy money and forgot that real money, real profit, real crypto comes from work, development and business mentality. Now that people are wising up you see the majority of those coins are struggling and floundering. This is because there is no real ecosystem, it's just a flood of emissions without economic activity to support it.

It's not a hand outs system essentially a "what you kill is what you eat" system, where you only get something if you actually did something.
Miners earn small tx fees , nodes earn processing fees and banking tx fees. At times of surplus reserves they can be subsidized to encourage lending, in return users could use the funds to earn more.

So if you have a talent , say graphic design, you could potentially start as a normal user, but if you sell your warez for BCR you can potentially make enough to have a node of your own. Likely you can actually make the required 250K long before someone who tries to do it through mining only.

Don't get me wrong, mining is important, it gets the chain moving and also introduces new money , but what actually gets any economy moving is trade. So trade your skills/warez up the ladder.



LOL, that doesn't mean after a bank node is released that it will be dumped all in one chunk straight into the buy side of the market.  It just means that over time, your node will grow in value through early adoption.


ofcourse not all at once but it will be aggressive dumping as its still profit.
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDITS | BITTREX | YPOOL | EMPOEX | BITBANK | NEW UPDATE 02/18 (CCC) on: March 27, 2015, 07:30:11 PM
i just cant see a good rate of return buying 250k at 1000sats is 2.5btc = $686 weekly payment 0.01btc-0.02btc = $5.4 is it reall worth it. i would only ask that if it was reduced it would be much interesting and attractive. not worth it for me

In this ecosystem, there is no easy money. If you want to earn you have to actually do something, be it investment, offering services or even just mining. But keep in mind that as interest increases so does mining difficulty, and so does price. However , as the trust protocol matures Banks will be more willing to loan out funds. If we allow any small interest to have bank then we risk scammers running fly by night operations resulting in problems for the average user. The investment has to be large enough to discourage such people and also reflect the commitment of the owner to providing the service.

Allow me to correct you a little, then think over what i say.

It actually costs 1.8 BTC right now to purchase enough for a bank node. So let's do some math, since hashrate doubled over the last few hours.

You are now only mining ~ 2500 BCR a week,  at current rates that is 0.017 BTC. And that is mining with some serious hardware to compete in this environment.

Randomuser1 instead spends 3.6 BTC and sets up two nodes with an additional 25K BCR for operations. He is 1/20 existing nodes and earns ~ 2000 BCR per week for his nodes. He will earn 0.04 BTC per week just for having the nodes. This means 9 weeks his nodes are already in the black.

Because he is a bank he can now perform operations such as escrow, Insurance and contracts.

Say in the first week he takes a 80k BCR contract for development of the Android mobile wallet and negotiates investment insurance for 40K BCR @ 5% rate. He then manages to do the job with 70K BCR. He pays his insurance agent their 5% and keeps the rest. So of the 10K profit, he pays 2K insurance, leaving him with 8k BCR, or 0.16 BTC.

His total for that week is 0.2 BTC. Depending on how much liquid BCR he has , he may have taken on smaller jobs like insuring your payment for some odd jobs in the crypto-world. which can potentially increase his total earnings. The only limit to how any contracts he can do is his monetary constraints and demand for his services.

Say the next week a worthwhile individual  decides to start a new asset/coin but they lack the funds to pull it off, they approach hi as a bank to lend them the funds and help set it up, in exchange say for a 3 % premine, or a hard-coded 3% of every block. If it is a good investment that is managed well, the bank can make untold profits by indulging in such activity. This also benefits our ecosystem either through the insurance one may take out on their investment or by the resulting stimulus of the removal/addition of large chunks of coin at times, as well as attracting more users, investors and entrepreneurs.

Note that once a person starts turning a profit, they are likely to buy more BCR and expand their operations. This creates a lot of buy pressure, resulting in even higher prices.

At a later date, our random user may find that maintaining two different nodes is too much work, especially when they start processing loan requests. So he may decide to sell his node at a 20% profit. That is 300k BCR which may be worth 9 BTC or even more depending on market conditions.


The PoS fad has ruined the average user mentality in that they were getting used to easy money and forgot that real money, real profit, real crypto comes from work, development and business mentality. Now that people are wising up you see the majority of those coins are struggling and floundering. This is because there is no real ecosystem, it's just a flood of emissions without economic activity to support it.

It's not a hand outs system essentially a "what you kill is what you eat" system, where you only get something if you actually did something.
Miners earn small tx fees , nodes earn processing fees and banking tx fees. At times of surplus reserves they can be subsidized to encourage lending, in return users could use the funds to earn more.

So if you have a talent , say graphic design, you could potentially start as a normal user, but if you sell your warez for BCR you can potentially make enough to have a node of your own. Likely you can actually make the required 250K long before someone who tries to do it through mining only.

Don't get me wrong, mining is important, it gets the chain moving and also introduces new money , but what actually gets any economy moving is trade. So trade your skills/warez up the ladder.

458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 07:27:16 PM
whats the idea? the idea here is more to cut supply increase price which will not happen indefinitely thus the model won't work. having this very limited amount of nodes manipulates the services the nodes provide.  
'The model' is not designed to simply increase the cost of BCR in perpetuity.

i trade the stock market. it doesn't take a genius to figure out why it won't go up all the time thus no point in becoming a node.
Again, you are confusing your own short term profit motives with what is intended.


From the dev:
The premise is simple.... we now have tons of currencies, but no real financial tools and services. This is a huge gap that needs filling and i have decided to step up to the task and try making it a reality.

My goals in succession were as follows

1) Create a viable currency as a base currency for all transactions.

2) Integrate financial services and tools one at a time to meet industry demands

3) Introduce a consensus system that governs Blockchain Financial Institutions by way of democratic vote

4) Implement an Asset issuing facility on the blockchain that runs concurrently with BCR... meaning that people can issue stocks in their companies/ventures/banks right on the blockchain and transfer them as required.

5) Create a incubator for ideas, internal and external whose profits are brought into the BCR ecosphere  thereby proving funding, profit and enterprise for all participants.


there was a white paper, an abject failure because my ideas evolve daily and it just could not get across ideas I want to express.

Any rise in price will be an artefact of value and utility provided.

Bleating and moaning about early adopters is asinine. Nothing is preventing you from being one.

they weren't my words they were devs when he said supply is decreased increasing value of nodes giving them huge profits for holding.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 07:24:51 PM
Ah....i did say something about procrastinating and FUD right?

Right now i'd like to get the basics shipped to the average user then worry about automation in the next update.

ok dev seems like my points are coming across as fud but you know ive addressed them before but got buzi.

do you think price will go up all the time. i think it won't as more nodes will be created and when nodes released big dumps because of the cut supply increase price model you have here. the only reason why someone would make a node is to make money of the increase right. now if they think price wont go up they wont buy as the weekly return would not be worth it at whatever level you buy
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BITCREDIT | USER BANKNODES | BLOCKCHAIN LENDING | AUTONOMOUS CREDIT SYSTEM on: March 27, 2015, 07:19:54 PM
dev says there is only 60k bcr under 10k sats soon the cost of buying a node will cost more than 25btc now will someone invest that much, on the uncertainty that the price will continue to go up
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