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441  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 02:11:08 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automatic_Identification_System
442  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 02:06:04 AM
Just FYI, they're not smuggling here. The ships follow regular routes, it'll be easy to trace. I have other resources if need be. Solid can vouch for me on that, although I'd prefer not to use them. Could get me in trouble. I don't own enough Uro to be unemployed, and I'm not greedy enough to buy more.
443  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 02:00:52 AM
I'm tracking every ship within 200 miles.

I promise you that you are not.

Honestly, you internet jockeys have to get over the idea that all the information on the world is online. 

It isn't.



marine traffic.com
if it's not military, it's on radar.
Safety first.

Marine traffic isn't radar.

And it doesn't have everything, not by a long shot.

https://www.google.com.au/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=track%20cargo%20ships


Its a start but:
http://www.vesselfinder.com/
http://shipfinder.co/
Exactly, many pieces to the puzzle.
These are some of the easier tools.
444  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 01:51:33 AM
I'm tracking every ship within 200 miles.

I promise you that you are not.

Honestly, you internet jockeys have to get over the idea that all the information on the world is online. 

It isn't.



marine traffic.com
if it's not military, it's on radar.
Safety first.
445  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 01:50:18 AM
The traders are gonna have fun riding this one up...
446  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 01:44:53 AM
The only ones selling will be those who haven't gotten the news. i.e. multipools
447  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 01:33:23 AM
IF the shipment is going to Mundra, the vessel is not yet underway, as it is not scheduled for port at this time. I'll update once it leaves. If the ship i'm watching is not ours, I'll still find it, it will just take a little longer.
448  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 01:20:44 AM
I'm tracking every ship within 200 miles, but there are no bulk carriers underway in that range. It should be bound for Mundra, that's where the majority of the big urea shipments are offloaded.  I can access the shipping records about 48 hrs after the ship docks (approximately), but the port of origin is encouraging.
449  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 01:06:43 AM
Port data for asalouyeh is unavailable to me (language barrier)
at any rate, it lags a couple days behind, so it will soon be double verified.
There is at this time only one bulk carrier moored at asalouyeh, so that's probably our boat. I'll keep track of it once it gets underway.
Thank you to Bohan and GES for supplying this much needed boost to the community.
450  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 13, 2014, 12:33:52 AM
Beautiful! I've been looking at Iranian urea, the sanctions were recently relaxed, and IPL is importing a lot of the shit! this could be good stuff! Give me a little while here....
451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 12, 2014, 12:07:10 PM
Urea purchase is bilateral agreement, which can be published only with the permission of  both parties! So if you want your proofs make a deal with GES and publish the details.

I don't even need documents. Customs records are public domain. How do you think I verified Rivaa's import/export history?
All I would need is the name of the ship, port of entry and a date range so I don't have to slog through 5000 entries.
I think this is a reasonable request.
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452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 12, 2014, 11:55:04 AM
Urea purchase is bilateral agreement, which can be published only with the permission of  both parties! So if you want your proofs make a deal with GES and publish the details.

I don't even need documents. Customs records are public domain. How do you think I verified Rivaa's import/export history?
All I would need is the name of the ship, port of entry and a date range so I don't have to slog through 5000 entries.
I think this is a reasonable request.

If you want to get results please stop fudding my call for action.
But maybe, it not in interests of GES or the buyer! why they have to provide this information, on a place of the buyer I wouldn't provide it to you
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This is in the best interests of the entire community.
The only way it can harm GES is if there is no urea.
453  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 12, 2014, 11:42:37 AM
Urea purchase is bilateral agreement, which can be published only with the permission of  both parties! So if you want your proofs make a deal with GES and publish the details.

I don't even need documents. Customs records are public domain. How do you think I verified Rivaa's import/export history?
All I would need is the name of the ship, port of entry and a date range so I don't have to slog through 5000 entries.
I think this is a reasonable request.
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If you want to get results please stop fudding my call for action.
454  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 12, 2014, 11:38:17 AM
Urea purchase is bilateral agreement, which can be published only with the permission of  both parties! So if you want your proofs make a deal with GES and publish the details.
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I don't even need documents. Customs records are public domain. How do you think I verified Rivaa's import/export history?
All I would need is the name of the ship, port of entry and a date range so I don't have to slog through 5000 entries.
I think this is a reasonable request.
455  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 12, 2014, 12:33:44 AM
And I have made no false statements.
456  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 12, 2014, 12:32:49 AM
I still won't call it a scam- I'm just once again disappointed that someone is trying to make something out of nothing.
I just don't like being lied to.

I strongly suggest that you retract your false statements. I know 100% for sure you will never find any real proof that you are "being lied to", simply because neither me, the Uro Foundation, or any of the 6 companies involved with URO so far have lied about anything that has been communicated to this community or to the general public.

In addition, everything I have sent to you in PMs are true as well. However, that does not make it right for you to post them in public.

All the old news on the GES website are true. All the stated events and figures are exactly what happened. Your inability to verify this due to your lack of connections with the entities involved in those events say nothing about whether they have happened.

Stop imagining that you know everything there is to know about how to find out anything you want. Such a notion is totally and utterly misguided.

If you wanted your coin to succeed, and the urea is real, why would you not post some proof of shipment, knowing that it would cause the coin to skyrocket? Would that not mean success?
and this is how you treat your friends?
I've fought the fudders for you ceaselessly.
457  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 11, 2014, 11:25:50 PM
I still won't call it a scam- I'm just once again disappointed that someone is trying to make something out of nothing.
I just don't like being lied to.
458  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 11, 2014, 11:23:40 PM
gonzo is a muppets character.

FYI Bohan has stated there WILL NOT be a proof of delivery.  he said you internet detectives gave rivaa over 1000 calls and emails, many racially charged and full of threats. as you can see by the audios chang recorded of himself calling GES in the early days its easy to see the side who is not believers has gone a little off the deep end.  Anyways back to delivery, the statement was something to the tune of... we had a press release that it is completed. completed = done, just like the press release that dell is shipping an "assload" of servers paid in bitcoin. that is completed too, but you'll never see a followup press release stating that those servers arrived, just like your not going to see a photo of a boat or any bullshit that wouldnt make you happy as a disbeliever anyways.  the price is low enough now, if your worried about newbs losing money go scambust on the other threads and leave us in peace.

Dell has a corporate footprint which is easily verified via impartial 3rd party sources.
I could find nothing about GES that was not produced by GES.
459  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 11, 2014, 11:13:22 PM
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Here is a link the the $25M USD single transaction BCL from GES:

http://imgur.com/LRNO8ho

Please DO NOT promote this.

It is a confidential document, for your reference only.

When you are satisfied, I would like you to post an update.

Thanks

 
I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

There will never be "Proof of Shipment": this is nonsense. The deal is real, and was done.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As people have said before, its going to be the commodities sector that will end up owning all the coins, because obviously you are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.

5 years from now, you will look back and with embarrassing regret at the level of immaturity being displayed in this community.

bohan
Thanks for the great work here.
I really believe in your project, i think it's a fantastic concept, and you are working extremely hard on it. I have seen that document already, and it is not convincing to me.
It indicates that there was indeed a deal, but not necessarily anything to do with commodities.
Especially as it was originated by a Florida company. The bank involved handles mainly real estate and construction related transactions through that office. (although it's irrelevant to the current discussion, my guess would be a contractor working on the red light camera expansions ordering equipment.)
It disturbs me that I have identified many of the bulk carriers which ply regular routes to India, have reviewed thousands of port records, and yet I can find no evidence that GES, UTI, or Rivaa have ever imported urea into India or Pakistan.
All of the sites I have seen regarding Nilesh consist of him bragging about how great he is, without providing any substantial, independently verifiable information that would confirm that he is indeed a successful commodities trader.
particularly damaging is the way that he posts videos on his site of news stories which are unrelated to his company.
This indicates that he is seeking filler material because GES has no real accomplishments to publicize.
showing pictures of urea does not mean that it is YOUR urea.
the community is grimly hanging on, but I believe that confidence will continue to wane if we do not soon receive proof of shipment.
The coin cannot be pegged to Urea if there is no urea to peg it to.
if there is no urea, then you should state that the coin will be pegged to urea in future if possible.
If the contract IS being fulfilled, give us proof of that.
( Also, I've been involved in martial arts my whole life, and I would never brag about it on a public website, especially one for my business.)
Thank you for your concern, but I simply can't find any reason to believe in Nilesh.

I simply can't believe that a multibillion dollar company, as you say, would have no footprint.
"because I say so" is not enough reason for me to believe this coin is actually backed by Urea.
Chang and company, as much as I despise you, I have to admit when I'm wrong.
460  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [Moderated] [ANN][URO] A Real Long Term Currency: 1 Uro = 1 Metric Tonne Urea on: August 11, 2014, 12:57:04 AM
I have recently become doubtful of the backing behind Uro, as I could find nothing to indicate that  GES has enough of a market presence to underwrite this project. (or, indeed, any market presence at all.)
In fact, though Bohan is tremendous, and has added many great features to this coin to make it superior in it's own right, without backing I couldn't have supported this coin if it was based upon a lie, and there was no urea backing.
Rivaa is legitimate, yet not large enough to provide the necessary backing.
I am now pleased to announce that I have verified connections between Rivaa and several large and reputable companies who do indeed have the resources to back this project, and that it does fit within the scope of their established and successful businesses.

I couldn't find anything to indicate that nilesh  can support this deal.
As a last ditch effort, I returned to rivaa. I finally found some inter connections which I can release, and which will at least provide some  reassurance for the community.
I finally found a rivaa director with connections to seats on the boards of other companies with large market cap and a footprint in finance and
commodities trading, not as an importer exporter, but as futures trading.
As Uro is meant to act as a stored value token for trading, this indicates to me that the involvement of Rivaa is significant. with this information, I can now once again feel confident that there is backing and a long-term plan for the financial success of uro.
With all of the features being added, the coin itself is superior to many on the market.
I'm pleased to be back on the URO train.
PS I still don't trust nilesh.
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