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441  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: The Great Reset and the Rise of Bitcoin | Award Winning Documentary on: April 22, 2024, 02:51:07 PM
Ακούω διάφορους (mindset του περασμένου αιώνα) οι οποίοι πιστεύουν ότι τα κράτη μπορούν να βγάλουν ένα crypto που θα εκτοπίσει το Bitcoin... λόγω κρατικής ισχύος!
Εγώ ακούω κάτι καλύτερο: ότι οι τράπεζες θα φτιάξουν νόμισμα που θα το εκτοπίσει. Το οποίο ισχύει ότι θα φτιάξουν (νομίζω World Bank και World Economic Forum έχουν ανακοινώσει W-CBDC), αλλά να περάσει το Bitcoin σε τι; Lol.

Το Bitcoin ναι μεν θα πάει πολύ ψηλά (6 ψηφία άνετα την μέρα που θα ανακοινωθεί αυτό) και θα είναι ιδανικό νόμισμα για διεθνείς διακανονισμούς, όμως το φτηνότερο fee για να μπεις στην αλυσίδα θα είναι κανά χιλιάρικο.
Νομίζω πως είναι υπερβολή το χιλιάρικο. Αυτή τη στιγμή παρατηρούμε τεράστια fees γιατί κυριαρχεί hype για τα νέα Ordinals. Όταν εξαφανιστούν αυτά (που θα γίνει όπως και με τα NFTs), δε παίζει να έχουμε πάνω από 50 sat/vb. Δεν υπάρχει τόσο τρομερή κίνηση on-chain όσο ακούγεται. Το 90% του block space πάει στα Ordinals.
442  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 22, 2024, 10:14:41 AM
I was so close on this one. I figured out how to go backwards from C1 to S1, but I never understood how the rules are encoded, so I was quite just brute forcing by mind. The big problem was that I neither understood how the word position is translated. For example, "wE~T" which I found as "seat" is in position "1" ("wE~T1"), but it's the third word in the phrase.

Hey, it was me! I've PM'd OP with some proof. Thanks for the fun and good luck everyone! I won't spoil anything!
We were solving it at the same time! You didn't need to pay $300 for a mining fee, though.  Tongue

I don't know how he or she made it yet, but I know he or she is smart enough, and I hope you'll all continue to participate in my next challenge, complex rules, double rewards. Wink
Challenge accepted my friend.
443  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 21, 2024, 03:25:44 PM
Upon deciphering a part of the given C1, you could see there's tool 4, prope 10 (for property), semin 3 (for seminar), and that would be enough for you to make out the rest of your 12 word seed phrase (given that you decipher the rest of the cipher blocks).
You only need the first 4 characters for each word. "prop", "tool", "semi". I think he has clarified this already.

I also doubt that the words are scrambled, like "property" -> "pr_o_p", "seminar" -> "se__mi". He's bragging about the puzzle's simplicity, and that's too complex.
444  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 21, 2024, 03:06:34 PM
One thing that I'm struggling with, do we actually know the plaintext S1? If the words have letters omitted from them, if there's symbols and numbers that can mark the word orders, extra obfuscation characters for more security, and if everything is in a securely random mixed position, doesn't that make S1 different from the actual plaintext?
But, he tells you that S1 is a seed phrase, and particularly this one:
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arena brisk seminar tool risk cat despair repeat seat property cattle later

Maybe I didn't understand exactly what you meant, but I cannot see the doubt of what's S1.

Do we actually start with the seed phrase to end up with the C1, or is there arbitrary personal choices involved BEFORE applying the rules to substitute
As far as I can tell, there's an arbitrary choice to which he refers as a "starting point", and information about this is onto the cards. And it normally has to happen at first, so yes, before everything else.

Edit: But, don't take my word for it. Let's wait and see what he has to say.
445  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Important reminders on: April 21, 2024, 10:49:04 AM
I may be hated for saying this, but what's currently happening in the mempool is a feature, not a bug. The fact that we have a fixed-sized block limit means that the current clogged up state would inevitably happen sometime.
I'm going to disagree with you. The fact that Bitcoin is currently useless for small transactions, and very expensive for large transactions is a serious problem.
I never said it isn't a serious problem. What I said is "it's a feature". Here's another feature: 21 million cap. "But this might not sustain the miners' income". I know. It might not. But, it's a feature nonetheless. Same applies to a fixed-sized block limit. It's inevitable that rich people will outweigh the poor sometimes, in terms of confirmation priority.

I'm now teaching my kids to use Monero
You're a father figure! I wish I had a father who taught me about Bitcoin and Monero. Congratulations.  Smiley

LN isn't going to solve this if opening and closing a channel costs a week worth of food.
Agreed.

Reinstating the "coin days destroyed" priority mechanism can help. Spammers can't destroy unlimited coin days, but this isn't in the interest of miners. And that's a fundamental problem: the ones who earn from high fees benefit from the flaws in the fee system.
Doesn't prevent the problem, perhaps discourages it by a little bit. What if they mint these tokens through centralized platforms with enormous amounts of UTXOs? I also don't like coins days destroyed, because it's anti-fungibility. A coin with value 100 days is more valuable than one that was just created.

I just hate seeing Bitcoin lose market share to shitcoins, because Bitcoin can't handle the transaction volume that comes with it's popularity.
The sooner we accept that Bitcoin cannot handle the entire populace on-chain, the better. Free markets are trial-and-error based. If Bitcoin has erred as electronic cash, then it's down to us to see which change in a crypto-protocol would make it look more like cash. Maybe there is none. Maybe it's dynamical block size. Maybe it's tail emission. Or even a compression method we haven't even thought of. In practice, we can see which is more recognized as cash.



A lot of Monero proponents on Twitter are bragging about Monero, and how it's better cash. Do they have any idea how bad the system works if the network was clogged up with gigabytes of monkeys every once in a while? I know, it'd still be cheap, but to finish syncing you'd have to verify like a million of monkey-ring signatures, which would slow down it by orders of magnitude.
446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Apr 2024] Fees are HIGH, wait for opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: April 21, 2024, 10:05:17 AM
Here are some important reminders for the lot of us: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5493652.0.



But do you think this madness is sustainable over time? Those who overpay for putting images of bananas in the blockhain can do it for two reasons, for the revenge of not having increased the size of the blocks or because you hope that someone more retarded than you will pay you much more money in the future for the bananas (or both).
There is no revenge, and even if there was any, it is simply not worth the money. It is just greater fool's theory 101. People risk millions of dollars for more in return. Not idealistic reasons, not BS. Just human greed.

Why does someone care about whether their ordinals transaction will be N1 in 840000's block or not?
Why do people throw coins in fountains and make wishes? Why do they send coins to Satoshi's address? Why do they pay outrageous amounts of money for baseball cards? Because it's not reasoning that drives the market. It's emotions.
447  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Important reminders on: April 21, 2024, 09:54:18 AM
I may be hated for saying this, but what's currently happening in the mempool is a feature, not a bug. The fact that we have a fixed-sized block limit means that the current clogged up state would inevitably happen sometime.

Another important reminder: Censorship won't prevent monkey jpegs. Let's leave asides if censoring monkeys would undermine one of the important properties: It just technically doesn't work. People who spend dozens of millions of dollars in monkeys everyday can bypass every censorship measure and save them straight to the UTXO set, which would be a lot worse for the rest of us.

Here's another: As long as the law of supply and demand defines the price of block bytes, we can never on-board billions or even millions of people on a layer-1 solution, unless we undermine another important property; being practical to verify the ledger.

Final reminder: The free market decides the ideal tradeoff. "Is it better to have a dynamical block size?", "Would it be worse if we traded 'being practical to verify' with 'being for the poor'?", "Would a tail emission save the situation?". These questions are not easy to answer. However, we have a lot of cryptocurrency options, each tailored to meet different needs. It's up to us to determine which option suits us best and to refrain from complaining about the shortcomings of a single solution.
448  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 20, 2024, 06:31:57 PM
But when you go from S1 to C1, think differently, what practices would you, as a normal person, employ? I said it's simple and straightforward, but put in a little bit of interference like moving positions as well.
I can think of nearly infinite "simple" ways, that's the problem.

Correct, it's 5 letters for each seed word, not 6 letters, you're one step closer.
Your wording is a little ambiguous. Do you mean that it's five the letters that reveal information about the seed word and one letter that's irrelevant to the word? For example, the first four characters of the word, and one character for its position ("aren1"). This is what I understand so far. First five are related with the word, and the last one perhaps has to do with the silver card placement.

It's not actually relying on a third party, it's being indifferent to a third party, that's not the same thing, as if I had to lock every seed phrase card into a safe and now I can put it in a desk drawer and just put a piece of paper in the safe that explains the rules.
The difference is that the drawer and safe are yours, whereas if Google decides to ban your account, or even shut down their Drive service, you can no longer access the data.
449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Apr 2024] Fees are HIGH, wait for opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: April 20, 2024, 01:59:17 PM
So, this was the record for the day?
Nope. The record of the day is easily this: https://mempool.space/tx/2bb85f4b004be6da54f766c17c1e855187327112c231ef2ff35ebad0ea67c69e. 3.6 million satoshis per vbyte. This person paid more than 6.732 bitcoin in transaction fee. It's the top transaction of the halving block. I guess you can call it the rarest Ordinal, or whatever they're called.  Tongue

I'm curious as to who will give more than $400,000 (!!!) for an Ordinal.
450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 20, 2024, 01:19:59 PM
It's not really hard to derive backwards, the point is to understand the process of going forwards.
It's quite impossible to go from C1 to S1, so I guess going forwards is even more difficult to figure out than that.

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So it's impossible to use 6 letters for each seed word, right?
Why not? Say you have 12 rows. In the first two, you use 12 letters to note the rules (as it seems needed). The rest of rows are consisted of 60 letters. Given that we only need the first four letters of each word and its position, we would need 4*12 letters + 12 positions = 60.

But, I think you've said that we need more than just the words and their positions. Right?

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Imagine writing down the name of each wallet in a small notebook, with the corresponding seed phrase below in ciphertext, and then keeping a copy of the CipherCard in your safe with the rules for substitution encryption written on the back of the copy.
Again, I can tell the security of this setup. However, I believe it is more complex than needed, and complexity is the enemy of security. I think that a well-setup multi-sig could provide about the same levels of security, but with less complexity.

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You could even keep a picture of the CipherCard in Gmail's drafts folder, the rules in Outlook's drafts folder, and the ciphertext of the seed phrases in the drafts folder of all your email services, and then use another CipherCard to manage the passwords for all your mailboxes.

Doesn't that make sense?
In my view, if your setup has to rely on third parties, it isn't an ideal setup.
451  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 20, 2024, 11:29:52 AM
The good news is that you are on the right track, the better news is that the rule is indeed simple.
I hope you don't mess with me, and that I'm indeed on the right track.  Tongue

If you encode the word's sequential number with the word, then each word and its sequential number form a "block" that can be placed out of order, which is a very important way to write seed phrases in secret.
That's a good point. For example, the word "brisk" comes with position "2". But, what do you mean with "can be placed out of order"? I understand it as "if we have a word and its position, then the order is irrelevant to us". For example, LwE~T1 could be the word "property" along with the position "10".

I say the rule is simple because it uses one or two "blocks" of information about how to choose the cards
OK, so there's more than just word and position. I can think of a third piece of information.

(even the black ones need to be chosen because I may have several different sets of cards for myself, for different purposes, and sometimes they tend to get mixed up with each other)
But, we only have one black card with two sides. Not entirely sure why you would want sets of such cards.

A little bit off-topic, but do you feel confident that having your seed phrase in ciphertext is a wise choice? I think it's extremely unlikely that someone can steal your coins, but with a slight loss of memory, you might get locked out of your funds.
452  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 20, 2024, 10:23:23 AM
No, in fact, these letters contain more information, and as we all know, to record the BIP39 seed phrases, it's enough to record the first 4 letters of each seed word, so we have room to cram in more information that is necessary to perform substitution encryption.
Not entirely sure what you mean in here. Yes, it is enough if we have the first four letters of a word, because they are unique. So, we have more room to introduce information that will obscure these letters? For example, could URU/Yw be "aren" followed by another input that is used in your rule to help us go figure out the next word?

I've been looking at it since yesterday, but it's a loss of time until this point. We know absolutely nothing about your rule. It could be anything, like take the first cipher-letter ('U') and use it to find potential letters that it points given a combination using the silver and black cards (e.g., from the first of the twelve combinations, it points to 'h', 'j', 'n' and 'm'). That's just one of the nearly infinite rules I can think of.

I checked an account under the nostr post you shared, from BitCat, which I presumes is yours, because they're describing a very similar patent of securing passwords. As far as I can tell, it's infeasible to achieve reversal; our only hope is that you've used a "simple" rule, which could be utterly subjective.
453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Apr 2024] Fees are HIGH, wait for opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: April 20, 2024, 09:48:19 AM
At $100 million per day, I don't think it's a fool.
"You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time".

I am out of explanation, I don't understand why it worth for every ordinals users to pay such a ridiculously high transaction fees, is there demand really that high on ordinals?
You mean you can't tell?  Cheesy  Big yes.

Does anyone know why were ordinals trying to get their inscription in halving block? Does anyone cares about that too? Holy moly
Because, "halving sats" are more precious than "ordinary sats". Just as the very first Ordinal sat is deemed as rare, I think. It doesn't make any sense, but often times, people don't use their reasoning when buying and selling stuff. Probably why billions of dollars are gambled every month, or coins are thrown on fountains as wishes.

There can't be so many fools and fools don't have millions of dollars in their pockets. I have never met a fool that is willing to give me a dollar in nothing.
The altcoins market cap is about a trillion dollars. That's what you're looking for.
454  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: [Apr 2024] Fees are HIGH, wait for opportunity to Consolidate your small inputs on: April 20, 2024, 08:27:18 AM
Spammers literally pay 4 million dollars per hour now to create meaningless Bitcoin dust.
Hopefully, "a fool and his money are soon parted".
455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 20, 2024, 08:18:34 AM
What's the opinion on Bitcoin transaction fees here? I'd say Bitcoin is broken if any UTXO under 0.001 BTC isn't even enough to pay for it's own transaction fee.
456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mempool Observer Topic on: April 20, 2024, 08:08:17 AM
Pardon me, but did the halving return the block reward back to where it was?  Grin
457  Local / Ελληνικά (Greek) / Re: Η Solana Σπάει Ρεκόρ: Ξεπέρασε τα 2000 TPS! on: April 19, 2024, 10:44:56 PM
Ωραια τα λες αλλα νομιζεις τον απλο κοσμο που δεν εχει ιδεα τον ενδιαφερει αν ειναι centralized η οχι?
Δε με νοιάζει τι νομίζει ο απλός κόσμος. Αν μας ένοιαζε τι νομίζει ο απλός κόσμος δε θα είχαμε Bitcoin σήμερα.

Θες να πληρωνεις 100$ για μια συναλλαγη αλλα να ειναι σε ενα αποκεντρωμενο δικτυο, η θες να πληρωνεις .05$ και να εισαι στο solana? Οι περισσοτεροι θα διαλεξουν το δευτερο.
ΟΚ, κανένα θέμα. Ο καθένας έχει την ελευθερία να επιλέγει ό,τι θέλει. Κι εγώ για μικρής αξίας συναλλαγές χρησιμοποιώ XMR. Δε μου τρώνε ούτε cent οι συναλλαγές. Δε βλέπω το Bitcoin να προορίζεται για ανούσιας αξίας συναλλαγές. (Αν και το $100 fee υπερβολή ακόμη και με Ordinals)

Δεν σου κραταει κανεις node operator/validator τα χρηματα σου για σενα σε αντιθεση με την revolut και οποια αλλη revolut
Το καλό με τη Revolut, τουλάχιστον απ' όσο ξέρουμε, είναι ότι δε μπορεί να δημιουργήσει χρήμα από κοπανιστό αέρα, κάτι για το οποίο μπορεί να γίνει στο Solana ανά πάσα στιγμή.

Επίσης, ποιος σου λέει ότι δε θα αρχίζουν να λογοκρίνουν συγκεκριμένα coins, αφού είναι centralized; Πως είσαι σίγουρος ότι δε θα λογοκριθείς και θα σου κατάσχουν τα χρήματα, όπως και στη Revolut;
458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: == 2024 Bitcoin halving tribute puzzle - Challenge to win 10,000,000 sats! == on: April 19, 2024, 08:19:16 PM
Interesting! A few blocks before the halving, and I was thinking of grabbing a snack, chilling and watching the countdown. But, let's solve a puzzle!

I have never solved a "reverse deduction puzzle" or even "cipher problem", so I'm already in a disadvantageous position. I can see from the short ciphertext that each cipher-word is 6-letter long, which must be important. I've been looking the card combinations for quite a lot of time, though. No ideas.  Tongue
459  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Airgapped device for Electrum installation on: April 19, 2024, 03:56:06 PM
If you have a malware that works offline and randomly deletes your files, then you need to get rid of it.
And, believe me. A malware that does only that is one of the good malwares!  Cheesy

By the way, if you are afraid that your storage (HDD or SSD) is not secure, just buy a new one.
Storage isn't evil. It's the software that accesses your storage. If they're evil, a brand new hard drive isn't going to save you.

You don't need tails because tails is a live OS and every information gets erased.
You can use persistent storage to save important files, such as wallets. This means that the files are written in the USB drive, but encrypted using a very long password by default, like a seed phrase.
460  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Is the whirlpool by Samourai (Sparrow wallet and Whirlpool-cli) really blinded? on: April 19, 2024, 10:41:26 AM
We are not talking  about different participants, but about one participant in coinjoin, who during the coinjoin needs to transfer to the coordinator the address from which he will pay from one IP  and the address to which he will receive from another IP. So that the coordinator cannot link its inputs and outputs.
We are talking about the same thing. One participant uses the whirlpool client and changes identities when signing input and output.

Can you please explain in more detail how exactly you can get a new tor circuit without using tor management interface?
I found this discussion in their github repo: https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/issues/1328.

So, as it turns out, nightjar is kind of depreciated, and replaced by a direct dependency of Samourai libs:
Nightjar is actually going away in favour of direct dependency on the Samourai libs, which have recently been updated to be compatible with Sparrow.

This is the code that changes identities: https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/blob/9d0c35bc750091abdca2769b4ff6fde819d7503e/src/main/java/com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/whirlpool/tor/SparrowTorClientService.java. You can see that it imports the relevant libraries for this purpose.

At this point, if you're still having trouble understanding what it does, we can continue the conversation, but note that I'm not a Sparrow contributor, so you'd be better asking themselves by opening an issue.
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