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441  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Dark marketplaces? on: December 19, 2016, 04:00:45 PM
There are a lot of dark marketplaces these days but you should not trust them at all because they are full of scammers these days, its not worth buying on there.

Neither don't ever get involved to have transactions there. That is because most of the people there are doing dirty businesses and don't get fooled by any person there that tries to have a conversation there. The old dark market places are even good enough unlike these days it is full of sh*t out there and its reputation is totally black.
Theres nothing good even on those old dark market places and i could say its all the same,the difference only is that there are more lots of variety of illegal things that you could illegally sell off compared to the old days.If you are totally newbie regarding on surfing the darknet then its better not to go there or intend to purchase things out there because chances of being scammed is high.
I never had been at any dark marketplace, but i doubt there isnt nothing interesting at all into those marketplace, and since when we judge the transaction as long the buyer gets what he is paying, in the general i doubt people into the dark marketplaces are interested into any kind of scam, the most of them wanna make money the same way as we, sure scammer will show off always anywhere.

There can be bought anything, I sometimes been on it just too look but you can literally buy everything on it, we even talk about clothing..and all that kind of stuff.

Yeah, indeed we can do anything in the deep web if we master the way of doing something that is hidden in the internet. Because in the internet it has two elements that is hidden and open. And to be able to master the hidden items then we should work hard to learn how to control the elements. But keep also note how well you are doing something in the deep web for sure you will be known by those who have your shallot trade disadvantaged and when you should be the responsibility of the
442  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: December 19, 2016, 03:50:19 PM
Hi, I am looking for a way to earn some money without invest(because I am broke), I can dedicate 2 hours a day in that. what can I do to make a bitcoin per month without any investment?

it is hard to get it for free, you cna try trading but it is risky

Trading is not recommended to newbies. They should work around this forum and offer services in bitcoin payments to earn some bitcoin first, maybe along with signature campaigns. Once they gain a proper capital they can start trading on it and get to multiply their coins like they said in the first post.

However it requires skills and luck to make good money in trading, specially altcoin trading is risky as well.

Everyone was once a newbie and I think recommending altcoin trading to newbies are actually a good start. That way, they'll be forced to do research about altcoins and trading

I think no one should take such advices seriously

As to me, recommending altcoin trading to a newbie is like advising a novice driver to try driving on a highway in the rush hour after reading road regulations and rules. Instead of actually learning how to drive, you will get promptly run over or crash into someone with your eyes wide shut in horror. Altcoin trading is essentially gambling, or even worse than gambling given how many shit coins sprung up till now only to quickly kick the bucket soon thereafter. Thereby, there is no particular reason to do any research about these shit coins unless you are going to play Russian roulette, of course

Yup, all advice did indeed look very exciting or evocative. But all these things will not be able to give us a good profit, if we just follow the advice without having the urge or a good spirit. Because the profits or results that we can get from the things that we can do is have not a bad thing. Better think properly what we want to do and then make a plan
443  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Are You Disappointed In Trading? on: December 19, 2016, 03:41:11 PM
When I think of traders, I saw people riding the trades of people who are familiar with trading.  Meaning they invest their money to some person to do the trading for them.  And there are people who do trades themselves.  I think between this two, the one being disappointed is the person who invested money to ride on other peoples trade.  While the person who are trading themselves are more likely not disappointed because they know deep down that they have done their best.

I don't know for sure what you thought or talked about on trading. As we know that trading is looking for benefits and every advantage it can be obtained if we could do some things that exist therein. Just as in trading, if we can see or do an analysis properly. then the things that we can get is a big advantage. It also relies on those who do it
444  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: December 19, 2016, 03:33:26 PM
I think that the  best option to invest at current point of time is bitcoin because I think in 2016 it has give 70% of return which no other asset class has given it. Also gold has not given anywhere that much return in past 5 years.


It is indeed very true. because I also see or menyakini that in the new year or the next year prices will be higher than the bitcoin thing we can get right now. Because it coincided with the holding and holding certainly will give us a great advantage in the period thereafter. But it also depends on our thinking, and if you are still unsure then you can wait until the price of the bitcoin under $300--.
445  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What is your trading strategy? on: December 19, 2016, 03:23:42 PM
I like to keep it simple. Look for historical highs and lows, set your levels, buy high, sell low! For all the newbies to trading, keep it simple, buy high, sell low! don't think too much about it Smiley

This is effective on trading strategy where in you can earn more just making sure of your every moves.
Be wise on buy and selling or trading especially coins, make sure that you are not that in less estate of pricing it.


but sometimes we can not predict that the price of coin will growing up or goes down. it is very hard for someone who newbies in trading.

All of which is true, but what's the harm if we still see the advantages which could possibly occur in the future..?.?. Because of the advantages or think of the advantage that we can be in the future will make us excited each time and it can be possible to get a bigger profit than we think. So, it is indeed a better way and profitable than the others
446  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I'd like to get some bitcoins. Is now a good time to do so? on: December 19, 2016, 03:14:27 PM
The timing may be right or wrong depends upon your luck because in 2016 btc has give 70% of return which no other has given so much. 2017 seems no longer different. 1000$ will be on cards soon so you got cool % to make it in coming time.

Everything is indeed something lucrative in the bitcoin and that we can see from the price or the growth of the bitcoin is good enough or that the very profitable all those who use it. And indeed it is possible that next year will experience higher growth again, because we see that all the things that exist in the bitcoin now because each holding and holding the price of bitcoin can penetrate the $1000 ++
447  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 19, 2016, 03:07:32 PM
I liked this thread because this is very important statement especially if you want to make money with money. Be it whatever field you may be without risk nothing much is there and with risk you got lots of options to explore. It should always be based on research and not on rumor while investing in it. You should be risk taker and not risk averse to make money.

Yeah it's true. If we have an awful lot of risks that are located in the world of work or a place to make money, because all things about finding money surely has to do with how to remove all of the power that we have. good thoughts, muscle, power and energy. so all this has risks of its own. so, we can not eliminate the risk, but we can minimize the risk with projected the correct job. Do the right thing and certain other investment or jobs that will benefit you
448  Economy / Economics / Re: Sell Everything? on: December 15, 2016, 02:31:03 PM
Why sell everthing that is nt good that is only e+destroying economies an it an become only chaos that is not good to do and it will never be i really cant understand that in people brains.
Selling does not mean destroying economies selling means that they are needing money and they going to buy soon when the price is going down it will not become chaos, People nowadays are a fast thinker even they know that it can be take risk they always say goo.

It is not bad to sell your bitcoins and yeah where did you got that idea of selling will destroy economy? As a matter of fact, when we are selling bitcoins we are contributing to the cycle of bitcoin and the market keeps on moving. It is more acceptable to say if all of us are not going to sell our bitcoins for there is no cycle happening in market with that move.
By selling it encourage market circulation and good thing you can sell with a profit but if not never do that unless yo are in a desperate situation. Bitcoin is an investment and a precious asset that the longer you keep the more it's valuable.
Selling everything? Sounds like half-truth statement. We need to buy and sell but not everything just in case. Sell everything and the price will fall down after that others will buy with low price, then the price rise again, it always going that way. You can sell everything if there is no an alternative to cover your living expenses.

Yeah, it's selling is fun or something that can make us benefit. But if we do the sales in excess then it will impact badly on every thing we sell or we will not be able to do a seller at a later date. Because of economic or legal system will definitely always in front and will give us an advantage if we could follow the economic law instructions correctly.To be able to use a sales correctly, then we should be able to learn about the law of economy and we should be able to use our thoughts and analysis. The results obtained in order to be nice
449  Economy / Economics / Re: How would you double $100,000 safely? on: December 15, 2016, 02:18:26 PM
There is no magic solution and none investment is a hundred percent a secure sanctuary. Maybe a good one is your portfolio to include the following types -stocks, bonds and cash (including bitcoin). An asset allocation of 50% stocks, 25% bonds, and 25% cash would be a good one but you could to reform according the risk you are willing to take.
You got to be specific with your investment, having that big amount will enable you to invest in different investment opportunity just make sure you made the right study before putting into investment. Do not focus in crypto only as in real world there's a lot of opportunity also.

Yeah, indeed to get tremendous advantage then we must be more intelligent in thought. And if we want to get a good profit then the investment that we have to do is a good investment, so that what we get in such investment is not something a bad investment or only temporary (fraud). Crypto is indeed incredible and it's lot of crypto are popping up for all things existing therein, the conclusion is we must be wise in doing something
450  Economy / Economics / Re: You should never trust banks on: December 15, 2016, 02:05:06 PM
Banks are already dying. They should have all died in 2008, but they were too big so taxpayers were forced to clear up the mess. Tellers and associates have already been being replaced by ATM and artificial intelligence. For the past few hundred years we relied too much on banks because people don't have better choices. But that situation is no longer the case if we see widespread adoption of cryptocurrencies
Nope. I think banks are  not dying its very impossible there are so many things we can do in banks we can store our money safely and we can gain profit from them and also you can do a loan if you are a businessman or employee so i dont think so the bank will crash.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. Bitcoin forever will never die, and die if the bank all the developments of finance and also all the things about money then it will be a mess and all the things that do not have will only make us bad. The Bank is the thing that makes us the advantage. And also with the bank we can have the convenience of doing all the things that concerned about it. The Central Bank is in the growth of all the money there is in the world i i
451  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 15, 2016, 01:46:35 PM
I don't know how it's possible to get money without any moves. So probably I can't advice something correctly to you. But that was interesting to me to read advices of other users, but in any case every way for steady income asks some moves to it worked.

It is possible even you are not going to move or do some efforts but you need one important thing to that and that is big money for capitalization of your investment. Here in my country, there are a lot of rich people who are not working instead they are letting their money work for them by simply depositing their money in the banks in time deposit contract.

It would be informative to learn how you found out that a lot of rich people in your country really use time deposits as a source of their income. This is what people do when they are not very rich, just have some spare money. If you are wealthy, there are numerous alternatives that would give you more returns than a bank deposit could potentially offer.
For rich people definitely they are not rich because of deposits in bank. They are rich because they have their business or investment and what I know is that they only put their money in banks for safe keeping since bank has an insurance and for convenience also.

Yeah, you're absolutely right. But what you don't see, that all people have deposits in the bank..?? > Besides business and also the investment that made them rich, bank deposit is also one of the things that made them rich. so everything related could duplicate folding money is the thing that can make everyone rich. But there is no need to worry if you want to get the wealth, for bitcoin can give us all the things we want. It's just that we should be able to learn about the bitcoin to decide how that will be used in the bitcoin to become rich
452  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: December 15, 2016, 01:34:32 PM
But I agree with you that use bitcoin give more control and freedom, government cannot confiscate it.

There are exceptions. Gold bullion is quite easy to hide, and this makes it hard for the government to confiscate it. It is also very hard to confiscate Bitcoins, but there have been well known incidents when that happened. An example is the FBI confiscating Ross Ulbricht's coins from the Silk Road.

I never see that gold can be hidden safely. Because gold is the physical goods and where we store it will definitely be with easy to find, because in terms of physical gold is visible and in terms of the elements forming the gold we can search for it with the tools that are already berbedar. And for bitcoin then I think it is not yet possible to confiscate, as are digital and the FBI bitcoin can not enter into the system because it contains no bitcoin can enter
453  Economy / Economics / Re: What if US Dollar Crashes? on: December 15, 2016, 01:24:46 PM
We will not see such scenario. USA and other players in the world politics scene would never allow something like this to happen, although some of their rivals would be very happy because of this. We all know that not every country in the world are of equal status. And to many other econimies in the world are also depending on the US dollar. But at the moment I don't see any real danger that dollar chrashes.

Yeah, indeed all countries have different customs and regulations. So that it can make the activity or habits. The U.S. economy has a very good level and I think the U.S. will not make all the country that depends on its currency being bankrupt because u.s. internal problems. So these are the things that will never happen and all the things that exist in the U.S. will only make everything be good. If indeed USD Crashes then we can still be meminimalisirnya by using bitcoin
454  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way to manage money? on: December 15, 2016, 01:15:14 PM
How to manage money?I can deliver you a very easy solution to find out a easy process to manage money.However,in my opinion we should change our mentality to save some money in our daily life purpose.It's very effective and east too.In my personal experience i can give you 100% guarantee about that without facing any difficulty.

So how's your way of managing money effective has been effective to you? Would you mind if you can share it here for free.

Because with that type of saying, you are probably going to offer that with fee, just like what I can see with the forum ad space.

I'm just curious and interested to that process you are saying.
Might as well be a copy+paste of some advertisements. The words that he used sounds all so familiar and that surely sounds like someone selling an e-Book online of his success experience would say. Most of them say that they have this method and it guarantees you good result. They say that it's what they've been doing and so on so forth. This type of manipulation is very common. They make you interested about something but let's you pay to get more details about it.

If you really want to manage your money, I suggest to not buy some eBook like this. It might be just some pretty basic method which anyone that has the right mind can think of. There are books and subreddits out there dedicated for managing your money. Don't waste your money for something like this.

Have an interest in eBooks that are sold in the internet and offers how to earn money in the internet is something that is fun and exciting. But if we can't sort out or choose an existing e-book then it would give an impact of less pleasant. Because with just buying all the different e-book then we would lose a lot of money and where sometimes all your e-book has the core material and the same juice (only different from word processing). So we want to qualify well, then the money should be able to choose the best, good, and bad. And things to think about before is the best!!
455  Economy / Economics / Re: Should I believe in Bitcoin ? on: December 15, 2016, 01:04:39 PM
Yes you should

Yup, you're absolutely right. As people who have discovered and studied the bitcoin correctly then we must believe in the bitcoin for bitcoin is a very digital currency units and different from other digital currencies. In addition to providing ease of transaction we can also gain a lot of advantages of various things that exist in the bitcoin. From the start of trading profits, investment, etc. And more fun is that we can do it any time, anywhere and done the easy way. So mandatory law we trust the bitcoin.
456  Economy / Economics / Re: The Halving - Good or Bad for Bitcoin? on: December 15, 2016, 12:55:50 PM
Well, its part of the protocol, so obviously Satoshi thought that its good, and that ought to be enough for many bitcoiners I think. Also, this halving helps to increase the value of bitcoin steadily, so that bitcoin wont collapse before its time. Halving is bad for miners however, as it ensures that they get lesser profits, but I'm not a miner, and mining profits wont affect me anyhow, so well, I cant think of bitcoin halving as a bad thing personally. Its good enough for me as it ensures a greater stability and increase of bitcoin value.

Are you true to deliver profits..?? . Because it gives an advantage to halving indeed, but it could provide potential anjloknya price bitcoin where there is a possibility that all of the people start to saturate because must wait for all that halving bitcoin sell it. Because it is basically right now it's the amount of the scarce and not bitcoin makes rare are those who do the halving. It is true through halving the price of bitcoin ride, but it is not good news if it has emerged that could rival the crypto all the users using the crypto switch bitcoin
457  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will Bitcoin be replaced by another cryptocurrency? on: December 14, 2016, 02:09:35 PM
Its really posible with the rise of platforms where assets are being created into it such as ethereum. It will be more used later due to its gateways. Assets on Platforms are the easiest to developed.

All the things that now appears is something that benefits us, because with emerging platforms such as ico and also the ethereum then that increasingly make the growth of bitcoin high. For they all take shelter or rely on the parent transaction as bitcoin they do. And all this is extraordinary things and make us be even more to introduce the bitcoin to everyone. I believe the growth will be increasingly bitcoin good future and all those who are now using bitcoin will be the candidate miliader
458  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with lost bitcoins on: December 14, 2016, 01:57:12 PM
If you could recover your lost bitcoins then it would be easier for me  to recover my coins which i lost when my system crashed ,the coins once lost are lost forever and i am not happy with the situation but then you have to accept it ,lesson i learned is to take back ups and have it in multiple safe locations.
yes i also think so, i think if once you lost your bitcoin it  become very difficult to recovery it again, it can only be possible if you recover your wallet key otherwise it is not possible to recover the lost bitcoins.

That is certainly true for bitcoin is not currency that can be restored that we often see in all currencies. Because the system used in the bitcoin system is quite complex and they can not be returned if we made a mistake. So if we use the bitcoin then we should be able to use it with caution, without it then we will continue to get our fault because loss is always done.Bitcoin will only give us an advantage if we know the way the game and we can understand the bitcoin with good
459  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If bitcoin died tomorrow on: December 14, 2016, 01:47:47 PM
By die I mean completely gone, price $0, code was hacked, private keys exposed, bitcoin dead
There is always a chance, don't be a blind fool
i think its not too easy, how can you hack such a huge system so easily, you need to realize the fact that bitcoin is becoming stronger and stronger from time to time therefore the chances of its becoming a dead currency are decreasing and bitcoin is going to stable more and more.

Haha, that's true and I think he has to say is simply a nonsense. Because the system they underestimate is a system that has long standing and all the blackhat trying to melumpukan or take the lift system forced the hand of the system because it was built very safe and hard to taken over. So if he can do it then it will only make the rest of his life and it makes him lose all the things that can be obtained at the time of his life
460  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: December 14, 2016, 01:38:16 PM
Why would you buy Bitcoin and then not spend it? I get that some people keep it as an investment, but some will always use it to buy things. Even if people aren't buying it, they are earning Bitcoin which helps circulate it with different people.
yes , many people more love to save it , why ? because for investment just little person use bitcoin to buy things


You are so right. Because the bitcoin is a more profitable and much more fun than if we're saving up or make a deposit in the bank. In addition to this investment we are doing in the bitcoin, we can use all the money that we have freely without any pieces or the existence of a restriction of the use of the money we have. Everything is better than in the bank. Bitcoin is going to be the biggest currency and will be a solution of all the problems that often occur in this
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