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441  Bitcoin / Project Development / [ANN] RMBTB.com: New China Bitcoin exchange on: May 17, 2013, 06:27:59 AM
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442  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 03:17:44 AM
No...

443  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price is about to Explode! on: May 17, 2013, 03:14:44 AM
That's more like it....

444  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 02:51:49 AM
Bye, bye bears  Cheesy

I suspect this will end in disaster.

Followed by an EVEN BIGGER PARTY

Anyway, looks like we're really in the midst of a decoupling from MtGox. Price 5% higher than all the other exchanges (this used to be really rare, especially for China), and volume dwindling. But will other exchanges still follow Gox's price lead? If they do, there is only one possible result: Price will be INFINITY.

445  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 02:02:23 AM
Buy Bitcoin while you still can. The price is being be held stable by big money for the Silicon Valley conference. The price will soon explode upwards.

TBH that just does not sound right to me, unless someone is trying to prevent a drop in price. In which case, we should be concerned.
No VC in his right mind will be looking at BTC without looking at price charts, on which this week long relative stability means nothing.

Can't see anyone at the conference having a problem with rising prices  Wink



Good point. But I think this started before MtGox bad news and all the recent good news, so that they could show investors what a future stable bitcoin would look like. Even though rising prices would excite everyone, it might look like a bubble to some investors. The most attractive thing you could show big companies at this point would be a model of future stability.

Of course, these are my guesswork conclusions. We'll see what happens.

Artificially manipulated "stable" market? Investors would spot it, and it's the last thing they would want. I don't think anyone will seriously waste their money doing this.

I think it would be waaaaay worth it. Even if the  investors could spot it, it wouldn't matter, they would understand the need to present a professional looking product. A conglomeration of big money could hold the market steady, make Bitcoin look professional, and then make billions by letting the reigns go and watch all the corporate panic buying ensue.

I mean c'mon, why throw a huge conference in the middle of Silicon Valey with the risk of the price absolutley tanking in the middle of your presentation. Everybody looking at their cellphones...No way they would take that risk. Very worth the money.


Has the recent price stability felt natural to anybody? I don't think so, not with all the drama the past week. Bitcoin has reacted for more violently on less news.

C'mon, it's just an impasse between buyers and sellers, most of the time with low volume. There is more than one exchange and people all around the world simultaneously either investing or getting cold feet.
446  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 01:42:34 AM
Buy Bitcoin while you still can. The price is being be held stable by big money for the Silicon Valley conference. The price will soon explode upwards.

TBH that just does not sound right to me, unless someone is trying to prevent a drop in price. In which case, we should be concerned.
No VC in his right mind will be looking at BTC without looking at price charts, on which this week long relative stability means nothing.

Can't see anyone at the conference having a problem with rising prices  Wink



Good point. But I think this started before MtGox bad news and all the recent good news, so that they could show investors what a future stable bitcoin would look like. Even though rising prices would excite everyone, it might look like a bubble to some investors. The most attractive thing you could show big companies at this point would be a model of future stability.

Of course, these are my guesswork conclusions. We'll see what happens.

Artificially manipulated "stable" market? Investors would spot it, and it's the last thing they would want. I don't think anyone will seriously waste their money doing this.
447  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 17, 2013, 12:27:31 AM
Sentiment seems good here. Hopefully this means, this time, we don't roll over as soon as we see a $10 gain.
448  Economy / Speculation / Re: Political battle over bitcoin on: May 16, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
Mind you, the fact that the washington post sees fit to speculate about our formerly-niche currency, and frame the speculation in terms of "political battle", just shows how far we've come. I remember when the price would jump due to any mainstream mention -- now we're a mainstay.

It's almost getting to the point that "any Bitcoin news is mainstream news". That's pretty cool.
449  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 16, 2013, 04:15:05 PM
Wow,  he actually wrote that. It's clear to me the guy suffers from a textbook "delusion of grandeur", and I'm sure half of this ramblings are just delusions and lies.

As Blitz said, "a crazy guy going nuts"

Honestly, I feel sorry for Rontus (his employee)

I doubt anyone went. I doubt Rontus exists. The supernode conference drama sounded like he took his rejected James Bond script (where he plays James Bond) and he modified it for the supernode conference. At the very least he's autistic. He's entertainment, like a tabloid. You don't really take it seriously.

I don't take him seriously but I do like reading his posts. It's like a man getting eaten by an alligator, you don't want to see it but it's hard to tear your eyes away.

Ever since he posted "I'm detained in a psych ward," i get a little sad when his name shows up.  Would probably feel worse if i bought the psych ward story at face value Huh

Yes, that sucks, although it's not exactly surprising. Things seemed to be getting worse as time went on -- the forum audience can't help. We should send a get-well card -- but him and his family would be far better off if he left this place for good.

I'm still not sure if anyone really knew what a supernode was... but I hear worse make-believe in business most days.
450  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 16, 2013, 03:57:42 PM
Where the hell is rpietila? I demand some balance in this thread. Also he was way more entertaining than this.

That picture of him with the Rolls Royce that someone photoshopped and coloured pink now makes me think of him as Parker (or Lady Penelope?) from Thunderbirds

Imagine Parker and Penelope showing off about how expensive their hotel was... and then refusing to pay the bill at the end...  FAB...

Not quite the same.
451  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 16, 2013, 03:56:34 PM
@coinseeker... you're trying too hard.

Come clean then, have you shorted BTC? Might be easier for you to just give up now and liquidate your position early. It'll be a lot less stressful for you in the long run.
452  Economy / Speculation / Re: The death of Mt Gox will End Bitcoin on: May 16, 2013, 09:41:49 AM
i dont understand what going on here :S

i had my btc on mt.gox wallet ever since i purchased them should i take them out of the gox wallet ?

wtf is going on here :S

The news does not affect BTC -- but either way, keeping your BTC in an exchange wallet was never the best of ideas.
453  Economy / Speculation / Re: The death of Mt Gox will End Bitcoin on: May 16, 2013, 05:19:23 AM
The article is misleading as it implies it IS POSSIBLE to become completely compliant with US law regarding bitcoin to fiat and fiat to bitcoin which is an impossibility since there are no state laws that govern such.  It certainly does look like they are/were trying to become compliant and that will CERTAINLY bode well for them.  Perhaps, with good counsel, they get off with a slap on the wrist.

Remember that it's easy to end up facing years in prison like this guy: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/06/e-gold/





This seems to be closer to reality.

But bear in mind he doesn't NEED counsel right now, as he hasn't been indicted or charged with anything.
454  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: May 16, 2013, 04:49:09 AM
FWIW, I don't think MtGox is using that algorithm -- at least, not any more.
455  Economy / Speculation / Re: Yet another analyst :) on: May 16, 2013, 04:08:35 AM

You must stop this nonsense.
456  Economy / Speculation / Re: The death of Mt Gox will End Bitcoin on: May 16, 2013, 04:07:57 AM
Evidence is strong that the Department of Homeland Security SEIZED ASSETS through Dwolla.  I TOTALLY disagree with your assessment.  My initial assessment is that the founder of Mt Gox goes to jail for about a decade.  Didn't the Napster guy go to jail for a while?  I forget that was like twenty years ago.  These kids don't even know what Napster is Grandpa  Smiley







Goes to jail for an oversight on a subsidiary's bank account regarding regulations that are a month old?

Get a grip man.
457  Economy / Speculation / Re: The death of Mt Gox will End Bitcoin on: May 16, 2013, 04:03:22 AM
When they shut down Napster and Kazaa, did it end filesharing?

Anyway, the analogy is irrelevant, as nothing has actually been shut down yet, and there is no evidence to suggest it will be.
458  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: May 16, 2013, 04:01:23 AM
We are in uncharted waters guys....not sure what to think of current situation concerning MTGOX.

Except -- exchanges threaten to close and actually close all the time. so they're not really uncharted.

Anyway, Gox will be OK, this will likely just be a relatively minor inconvenience for them.
459  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The next Mt Gox? (MtGox 2.0) on: May 16, 2013, 03:58:26 AM
I'm about to launch a new exchange, but it's for China. I was going to encourage USD IN too, but not any more -- at least not at first.

I think the big part missing from most current exchanges is real scaleability; I don't see many properly utilising cloud infrastructure, or parallelising operations.

Having looked at a few existing trading engines when I was getting started, and not being terribly impressed, I have the feeling that there are a few crufty old lines of code still doing the rounds on other exchanges.

This is the best example I found, and it appears a few exchanges adopted the code...

... lock all database tables
... match all possible orders
... Hope nothing goes wrong. If it does, just print an error.
... unlock all tables
... sleep for a bit
... repeat

Sigh.
460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Price will not crash due to MtGox crackdown on: May 16, 2013, 03:21:57 AM
I have to say I'm completely surprised by the total lack of reaction to this news by the market.

How is that the coinlab civil lawsuit (which could take years to play out and may just fade away) can send the market into a 20% panic sell, but Mt Gox getting assets frozen (IMHO must worst/more serious than the lawsuit) and market almost no reaction. 

I'm happy if bitcoin has become this resilient, but it just seems a bit unreal.

There were some pretty deep sell-offs almost immediately, but to be honest I think that most people with skin in the game right now are stronger hands waiting for the next rally -- each "scare-off" is having diminishing returns.
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