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4441  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: June 04, 2023, 08:18:57 PM
Are you serious? it's gambling dude, not passive income, staking or a jobs.

Making $100 daily is big too and most people who work didn't even make $3,000 per month, there's no such way to get rich quick without any risk. It's better if you're looking for a better job with high payment and then invest your money in various assets. Gambling is only for fun, don't expect you will make a daily profit.
Just let him try it so he can see how it turns out. I think he should experience what we have experienced first-hand so that his mind can be open and willing to accept that gambling is not a way to make good money. There is a big chance that we will lose even when we start playing gambling. Our chances of winning are not bigger anymore, especially if we gamble for several rounds.

It's better to try to make $100 from a business than from gambling because if we work from a business, there is a possibility that we can make it while we have nothing to lose, and instead, we learn so we can grow our business even bigger.

First hand experienced will let him realized, though maybe for some try he will manage to make some but in the longer run when his appetite is no longer satisfied with $100 and he will aim to earn more, that's where he see that it's a hard task to control your emotions and more or less he will continue to lose his capital.

I like that idea, better to invest with other things around than trying to manifest some profits inside gambling.

i guess by now he already came to a point that he got the picture that in gambling, there's no guaranteed passive income here. unless, you will put your money in the investment option of the casino, where you will put your funds in their bankroll investments. also, once you are in gambling, you may want more than 100 bucks profit. usually, you would want more once you got your hands on this activity. also, it depends on you initial bankroll how you can gain in gambling. or better yet, it depends on your luck esp if you are playing luck-based games.

I think that things can be handled in a different way here , when we see that a person who manages very large numbers in a casino, it can happen that if you bet a lot of 100usd you win at once, in a simple way , now , things that can occur here are different when you have a balance in a casino , let's say 500 usd , in this way I don't think there can be a good Return because what can be done daily even if it is 1 dollar is something very Representative, but why ? because it is Easier to win than to lose, and if Something adds up it will be a profit.
4442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: I am only trying to stay safe by gambling less on: June 04, 2023, 08:00:47 PM
I refuse this because I believe they are wrong, Bitcoin market has charts and I am playing with charts even if I am a full-time Bitcoin trader, all I need to do is read charts, and if I am good at it I will win vs gambling, where it's you vs a company which we can never tell if their games are completely fair or not.
Your friends don't want to hear the truth about bitcoin because, in my opinion, they are gambling addicts who believe that bitcoin cannot provide them with the money they regularly win from gambling. For this reason, I believe that no matter what you explain to them about bitcoin, they won't agree with you, especially if you say that it requires a lot of time investment and that you must wait a very long time before making money from it. They won't even bother to look at it.
However, as long as you haven't invested in other shitcoins that will even cause you to lose more than a gambler, investing in bitcoin is plainly distinct from gambling.

There are many things that can be seen, when you bet some have a fetish with using bitcoin, and not using another currency, but there are others who don't, who only bet on altcoins, personally I really like to bet with bitcoin, of course now everything The world complains about the high rates, something that I understand quite accurately because at the moment of withdrawing it is not good because a lot of money is taken, so I think that I have already said it in many threads , what can be done there is that it can be reduced the number of sats that can be done.
4443  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: June 04, 2023, 07:27:15 PM
What's interesting in the battle for position now is no longer Arsenal and Manchester City, but Liverpool and Manchester United because Newcastle managed to beat Brighton yesterday in round 25.
Mathematically, Newcastle have not passed the UCL because they still meet Leicester City, who are struggling to avoid relegation, and Chelsea, who could qualify for Man United or Liverpool.

Indeed, what you say is true, but on the other hand, looking at their current opponents, I think with Leicester and Chelsea it's not a big problem for them. Even if they can't win but if it's two draws from 2 games it's actually enough to get them in the Champions League next season and with Leicester in the state I think it's not even going to be a draw because their conditions are still very different and I feel Newcastle will won again against Leicester who are currently still slumped in the relegation zone.
On the other hand, against Chelsea, Newcastle still has a big chance, especially since they are still going through an update with their current new coach.

Well here the opportunity that Newcastle has is something unique , they cannot miss out, not only with this game but with everything they have left , the opportunity to get into one of the positions they have to be able to play a better role is something that is rarely it happens, as far as I'm concerned, this type of team deserves an opportunity and for them they want to win, for this reason I think that things will Happen here as long as they want it and play with all their desire, otherwise they won't I think they can do a lot , of course this is what I think According to a lot of what can be Done.

City also seems unthreatened to go for the title in the new season? We cannot possibly expect from Liverpool that they will seriously compete for the title. You should compare the performance and the number of points of City and Liverpool, then you see how big the difference in level is at the moment. I don't believe Liverpool can close that gap in a few months, and I don't think Liverpool will sign many new players this summer. They can, but they won't. I think they need another good striker up front if they want to keep the connection with City.
Manchester City still has the potential to become the strongest team even for next season. But still, we also don't know whether or not there will be another team that can compete with Man City. And I think Liverpool, Newcastle, Arsenal and Manchester United might be able to compete more fiercely next season in the title race with Man City. But let's see if these teams will buy a lot of good players in the upcoming transfer market or not. And as usual, we can judge the strength of a team from the transfer market.
I would like a new team to win, like Newcastle, because they are teams that need to resurface, have visibility, it is time for this team to be one of the most outstanding in the entire PL, I am not saying that they do not deserve it, or that they do. the title more than the other teams, but we know that City can be crowned one of the best teams in the world in the UCL, they are about to do it, so I would hope that another team had that opportunity to be the best, Arsenal is another team that resounds as if to be one of the best, but for now I would like Newcastle, of course it is my very personal opinion.
4444  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: June 04, 2023, 06:56:25 PM
The more we gamble less the more we get interesting in the world of gambling but its up to us if we can control ourselves as we all know that once we involve in gambling we can not deny the fact that sometimes we will feel like in gambling we are comfortable. So it's up to us if we can control our selves in to a educated gambler that we gamble for the sake of joy and not for earning. Because gambling is for fun not a job.

In order to save yourself from losing money, I think it's not the quantity that matters. You can gamble less and still lose money. The more important thing is money management and the plan with which you enter in gambling. If you know how much money you will put in each game or bet, you have a pre-defined plan on what will be your course of action on a loss or a win, then in that case you will not lose money regardless of the fact that you gamble more often or rarely gamble.

Yeah, I agree that gambling will not give you any fixed earnings, so gambling to have fun is also very important but at the same time, not losing money should be the ultimate goal too.
You are very correct, and I agree with you, one of the ways to really have a stress free gambling is to only gamble with a fund that is already provisioned for it, making funds available for gambling will ensure that the gambler never end up gambling with funds he or she can't afford to loose.
Though it take special care and discipline, nothing really good, profitable ever comes at a cost that is free, gambling is an activity that should never be depended on as a means of living in terms of finance, gambling should be more or a fun adventure for the gambler, than of a way to make money.

Yes and as a gambler we will make sure that we can control ourselves and focus for fun but in reality there are many gamblers who are in addiction and they cant control themselves to gamble anytime. Which is still okay if they don't have their own family and they are rich enough. But if you are in a middle stage of life then it's better to gamble for fun and use our extra money in order to prevent addiction and lost more money.

In casinos, like everywhere else, there are always people who are very good players, others who lose control easily and always lose, and there are also players who are addicted and don't mind losing, addicts are the most dangerous because on many occasions they do not accept the problem and feel that the things they do are fine and that everything should be like this, but little by little they lose capital and things can get out of control and can go very wrong, for this reason it is uwe if we detect You should try to talk to someone with this problem, recommend help, but very sparingly, as this is very delicate.
4445  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: June 04, 2023, 06:06:31 PM
They have definitely found their way back into higher quality soccer that they are usually able to play. The beginning of the season was a horror for them and if you have a start like that the confidence is also starting to shrink from one game to the next.
Yes, thankfully they found their way back so well that they seem to be able to make an epic comeback before it's too late. And of course they won the European league, isn't this a pretty drastic progress for them. However, next season is always waiting, whether they can really rise and become big again or not, because of course there will be many more challenges. And they have to find good players again who are suitable to be able to rise.
Sevilla used to be a very strong team some seasons ago and they have been widely known across Europ for their European league title wins. Even when they qualify for champions league, they technically drop back to European and they definitely win.
With this recent succes, and for the fact that they are playing in the Champions League, I believe they are back to the success and winning track such next season, as we mention Barcelona, Real Madrid, they will surely be next.
Now Sevilla has won the europa league it will be so dissapointing if Sevilla fails to participate well in the Champions League.  Sevilla needs to upgrade and use to Champions league because they already won europa league several times, their target should be something big like the Champions league.

Here I think that Sevilla is going to change their mentality, because all the effort of the Europa League cannot be abandoned and thrown away, it doesn't matter that they have not done a good job in La Liga, because the League was won by Barcelona and well It is an important title, but I think it is more important to have earned a place in the UCL, because the way Sevilla plays is something else when they are in high caliber championships, it is as if they have another way of playing, they play very differently than In La Liga, I don't really understand it, but apparently it has worked for them.

The Seville team did amazing in the match. The Roma team tried hard but could not secure the victory. The Seville team won by a huge margin in the penalty shootout at the end. However, I did not think that the Roma team would do so badly in penalties.
It's not only you who don't think about the bad penalty shootout at AS Roma, but almost everyone doesn't think about the penalty shootout before the game is over. Because in that final match, Sevilla only had the capital through an own goal so Sevilla really took advantage of it to end in a draw which led to a penalty shootout. So I think Sevilla's luck in the final was only due to an own goal from AS Roma, nothing more than that.

Yes, it's true, if I consider the results of their match in the final yesterday for 2x45 minutes, then I feel AS Roma is more worthy of winning the title. Because also, in fact there were incidents where the referee and also the VAR did not have a fair decision for AS Roma. So yes, I also think that Sevilla really had great luck in yesterday's final. Even though, before the final match started I supported Sevilla to win, but after watching their style of play in the final I would prefer AS Roma should have won a trophy here but all that has happened.

The truth is I was very sure that Roma was going to win, it gave me a strange feeling that they did not win, because first of all the efforts of their players, they have not had it easy in Serie A, apart from Mou he has made a lot of effort with this team, and this team has a lot to give, I think that apart from the effort in their league and in the Europa League, in the next season they have to destroy, because at least everything that has happened teaches them that they have to take advantage of everything from the beginning of the season, that each point that is added is very valuable.

UEFA reportedly agree with Roma that Taylor performance was inadequate



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Mourinho has been charged by UEFA with using abusive and insulting language towards the official during a confrontation in the car park of the Puskas Arena after the match, which was decided on a penalty shoot-out.

Director Tiago Pinto also openly criticised Taylor for an officiating performance that was “not up to the standard” of a European Final.

According to Calciomercato.com and the Corriere dello Sport, that opinion was shared by the UEFA designator Roberto Rosetti, who was also unimpressed with Taylor’s handling of several situations.

The biggest was the Fernando handball, which Taylor considered to be with the arm in a natural position and VAR did not intervene to suggest an on-field review, but also his handing out of various yellow cards to Roma players, whereas Sevilla could’ve had far more, including a double booking for Lucas Ocampos.

Taylor also awarded a non-existent penalty to Sevilla, but that decision was corrected by the VAR review.

Source: https://football-italia.net/uefa-reportedly-agree-with-roma-that-taylor-performance-was-inadequate/
4446  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Wagering requirements for withdraw on: June 04, 2023, 04:12:24 PM
I really hate it when casinos pull stunts like these even though of course, this is something that is stated in their ToS. It’s supposed to be an unspoken rule that you are to be given the opportunity to withdraw your assets from them anytime you want. Because there’s no real incentive in these wagering requirements other than to retain the customer’s funds to keep the casino from working as lazy as possible and not offering secure remunerations for their players, which are things that need no further explanation, are telltale signs that the casino you’re dealing with is a big sham.

Casinos should allow you to withdraw without requiring you to put on a wager. You already played in their house for god’s sakes. It’s mad insulting at this point to disallow gamblers from getting their money nack or their winnings over petty requirements.
I also thought like this but we have to know that they have rules for us to respect and respect, if you don't like the rules you should find another casino and leave the one you don't like, of course this is an easy way to support your goals, after all we have to know that it is possible for casinos to implement these rules so that users who make deposits and then withdraw without playing are like people who are laundering money. but I also don't agree with having to gamble with high and hard-to-reach wagered amounts.

I might agree with you but there are things that must be appreciated and respected from the decision of the casino itself, if we don't really like it just leave it, I'm more interested in playing in a big casino, usually complicated rules exist in small casinos.

Each casino has its own rules and they have their regulations for the bonuses themselves, they are different, they differ a lot because they have different ways of dealing with the way they play, if in a small casino it has some of the limitations that we do not like, I agree I agree that they have to look for other casinos, in the case of duelbits I feel comfortable, they have the games that I like, there is no problem with the bonuses, with the withdrawals, I am very demanding with the withdrawals, I like that they occur when I want and that there is no need to be sending messages to support for my payment, I have no problems here , that's why I Recommend it.
It is normal that all casino sites will have their own rules and regulations.  But their regulation should be such that it is attractive to the gamblers and that the gamblers find it fair.  Otherwise, the site will not be able to survive in such a competitive market. as op said the site he used requirement high wagering which may not seem fair to gamblers. In this case they will lose more gamblers from their site instead of gaining new gamblers. I don't know what their strategy is basically but it doesn't seem fair to me

I also think the same as you, the regulations must be complied with to the letter but if it is seen that it affects the players it is something that should not be put as a priority because the players always look for the ease of everything, first to play, what the casino is not complicated and secondly that the casino offers quite good and usable bonuses, which attracts them, but I have seen that one of the things that players are put off is the KYC requirement and that is something that cannot be allowed, everything except that the players leave, so these types of things are the ones that have to be Avoided, everything has to have a balance.

4447  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: June 04, 2023, 02:56:06 PM
Yes, Madrid has ended this year now is the time for Manchester City to take over including the Champions League, not only you almost everyone is surprised
but it's not the final yet Manchester City still have one more challenge they have to beat Milan after that they are the best in the world this year.
Real Madrid really suffered an extraordinary defeat in the UCL, several players looked less than optimal because of their health condition. Plus because Man City really played really amazing. They even controlled the match very well. 4 goals without reply from Real Madrid. And congratulations to Man City and Inter for advancing to the final round. they deserve this.Inter also played greatly so far during the semi final of derby. They really could handle the semi final satisfaying.

I can't say less, everything you say was true, Madrid obviously looked very bad, I'm sure many lost their bets, because if they had played like they did in the first leg they would have done better, I think Ancelotti was the one who had all the mistakes, at one point Vinicius approached him and said something, he complained when they were 2-0, so this type of thing shows that the strategy that the Italian used was not adequate, I did not like that they put the Madrid in a defensive style of play when Madrid's best defense is its attack, then there was no pressure mark, there was despair, really this time Ancelotti did not have the correct vision of the game, here Pep Guardiola did very well, and the goals were of many players less than Haaaland, which shows that this team does not play for Haaland but that players with high potential are diversified.

If they want to beat Manchester City, Inter Milan will have to play the best match in their history. Also luck should be on Inter Milan's side. Otherwise, I think it will be difficult to beat a team like Manchester City. Because every player from attack to defense of Manchester City has their best performance.
Inter Milan is also very aware that Manchester City is indeed in very good form this season and this has indeed been proven by Manchester City through the two trophies that Manchester City has won through competitions in their own country. So if Inter Milan can't stop Manchester City from winning in the Champions League final this season, Manchester City will be a very successful team by winning three trophies at once this season even though it must also be said to be natural because Manchester City has more great players and also very compact in every match.
I think Inter milan will feel less confident after knowing that Manchester city has just won the title in their country with only 12 seconds to score.
Manchester city's success has indirectly reduced the mentality of the Inter Milan players because it seems like it will be very difficult to win this match while City's performance is very strong.
it's too naive if they should be afraid now because if they are not too confident just with the condition of Manchester City who put the ball in at a very fast time they indirectly give up and I think that doesn't reflect a big club.
Now, even though Manchester City is the favorite, they still have to face it because there really is no other way. If indeed they still intend to have the same goal for the treble as Manchester City's goal, then they must be able to play well, even if they are not too favorite.

Well now Inter is in the finals, it's no longer just that they are afraid, fear is part of failure, many confuse fear with being extremely nervous, and nervous is something normal, but fear of a City? There shouldn't be, there shouldn't be such thoughts, a team like Inter should think that in order to succeed they have to have a very winning mentality, to be the strongest and sincerely in this final I would like the Italian team to win, yes They showed that they reached a final, they have everything to be able to win, obviously City will come out with everything, but they are nothing more than Inter, Inter have very high quality players.

I think this final will be one of the best, it's different, many don't bet on this final happening, and just as strange as it may be for some, INTER should be champion for me.

Inter Milan President Zhang Wants “Spirit Of 2010” At UCL Final – Massimo Moratti & Champions League Heroes Invited



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Inter Milan President Steven Zhang wants a real “spirit of 2010” at the Champions League final, and has invited Treble-winning former President Massimo Moratti and several legends from the previous Europe-conquering squad to the match.

This according to today’s print edition of Milan-based newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport, via FCInterNews.

Inter are hoping to make history in Istanbul next weekend.

If the Nerazzurri can manage to beat Manchester City, they’ll secure the Champions League for the fourth time in their history.

Zhang could be the third President to win it with Inter – and the first not with the last name Moratti.

Legendary former President Massimo Moratti was at the helm in 2010. That season the Nerazzurri won the Champions League under Jose Mourinho, completing the European Treble.

That Treble had been the culmination of a lengthy and illustrious period in which Moratti was President.

Previously, his father Angelo had also won the European Cup twice with Inter in the 1960s.

Source: https://sempreinter.com/2023/06/04/inter-milan-steven-zhang-invites-massimo-moratti-2010-champions-league-heroes-final/
4448  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are there play and pay later casinos? on: June 04, 2023, 04:16:19 AM
Never heard of such, and even if there be, I think it's plain stupid, cus I personally will play on the casino, and if I don't Win, I will never return to pay the money, I will just go and start gambling on another casino maybe outside where I live.
Totally a stupid decision if someone who's addicted to gambling will result in this. We saw how gamblers who have gambled and then used loan money for their gambling activities, they've never been trusted again. But with such condition, I don't think the casino will just allow it without anything in return to them knowing that there are also nasty gamblers that won't pay them if they hand the money and allows them to gamble freely and easily.

Since casinos are aware of how gambling works and how debt-ridden gamblers may become, I don't believe any will permit borrowing and lending. We already know that borrowing money to gamble will never be the best option. We can't afford to lose these funds, therefore gambling with them will be a major risk.
I agree that you need to have questioned your friend because that sum is not small. If casinos made such an offer, many players would take advantage of it, causing them to suffer severe losses. If casinos ever start allowing borrowing, more gamblers will undoubtedly develop gambling addictions.
Let us say that some casinos do appreciate the loyalty of their customers and it's like a limited offer and feature for those that they've seen being loyal to them. But we do know that gambling with borrowed money isn't going to take you any longer and it's a plus that it will only give you more debt including the interest. When we've got money that came from loan, we tend to just spend it because we're thinking that we'll even pay the interest of it and there's an urgency of spending it as soon as possible.

Even thought with that for sure a casino will not let their players to lend money on their platform since they know the risk for not getting paid. Maybe a loyalty bonus will be given to their loyal costumers but not a loan since they might get a lot of defaults especially if there gamblers cannot afford to pay the money especially when they already lose everything they had. Also much better for a player not to think about taking loan since this will never result any good and this put us on huge risk to get bankrupt.
I think that one of the things that can be done is that in a casino you cannot give money loans due to the danger of bankruptcy, however if the player is made a series of demands under which they make commitments, obviously the KYC would be something hellish, but if there are ways to do it, and facial verifications and everything, I think it would be a way to do it, with weekly or daily payments, depending on how the client wants, in case they don't pay because they don't want to Well, they simply go to the clause where they require mortgage documents or a commitment with the security entities, I think that would be a way, and that obviously the loans are given with the help of a bank, where the casino earns a % for it.
4449  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you lose on slots? on: June 04, 2023, 03:19:48 AM
It is true is not easy but at the same time it has to be done, humans have to do all kind of things we do not like and yet we still do them, an example of this is exercise, I do not like exercising at all and I hate that feeling of fatigue I get after it, but I still do it because I know it is a good thing for my long term health, then if someone is experimenting some gambling issues, as hard as it could be to remain away from casinos they have to do it, as it is the best thing for them to do at that moment.
It is indeed the irony of life, when on the normal, people are supposed to find it easier to stay aways from gambling casinos, but still baffles me how addiction turns the table around, and make things that are easier to do much difficult, and then make things that are harder/difficult to do much more easier.

For me, it takes me much time to decide to gamble, even when I have the hunger for it, I still can only gamble on a day or week I have extra money possibly due to less expenses and all that..

And that example of exercising, that's so true, it pretty amuses me how we tend to find it easier to do things that are not important for our well being, compare to things are will keep us in good health mentally and physically.
This is why addictions are so dangerous as they invert the natural order, I like to gamble but just like you it is something I do occasionally, and if someone asked me I would have no problem staying out of it for as long as needed as I have a lot of other hobbies as well, but the addicted gambler is so immersed in the rabbit hole they cannot tell that what is happening is slowly destroying them and everyone around them, and by the time they realize this is the case it is too late to do anything about it.
A gambling addict who does not want to get rid of addiction immediately will definitely get worse and will lose all valuables and savings.
Especially slot games which are faster increasing gambling addicts as I saw in the city say that there are some young people who don't know about gambling but after seeing slot advertisements he wants to try and ends up addicted to selling various valuables and houses.
It is that there can be a lot of confusion when it comes to the casinos and the auctions , it is as you say, they can even sell houses to be able to be in the casino well, and if they are from those people who seek to recover their losses , I think it is one of the things that They will not be able to leave except with the help of psychologists before they endanger their own lives, and if they are people who are the head of a family where they spend their money in an irresponsible way , it is what I consider Should not be done, however this Falls on the responsibility of each Person, since the casino here is not the culprit because a casino does not Force Anyone to Play.
4450  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: June 04, 2023, 02:54:09 AM
Yes, this is true, but there is a logical explanation for this - many residents of third world countries after entering the United States will "get lost" and stay there illegally. By the way, I don’t know how it is now, but earlier, for everyone entering the US legally, vaccination (from covid) was mandatory, and for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and demanded citizenship/asylum, there was no such requirement  Grin Thus, it was safer to enter the US illegally.

There are many people who think letting America host the 2026 world cup was a wrong decision and that they will have problems visiting this country to watch the World Cup games but I disagree and I think since America got the experience of hosting other great tournaments, they won't disappoint us and we are going to see a better world cup than what we saw in Qatar.

I am 100% sure that in terms of organization in the US everything will be at the top level. In terms of the quality of the competitions held (probably in all sports), this is the country No. 1 and, of course, they will also hold the World Cup at the highest level. But the problem with a visa is a problem of a different order, and there will definitely be dissatisfied people who, for one reason or another, will not be able to get it.

Hopefully, the FIFA council can find some ways to resolve this kind of problem because World Cup being a business, they sure want as many people as possible to see and watch the event because that will also mean that there's a lot of money that will flow to their pockets. Although I doubt that they can really fix it as this problem already falls down to the US and Canada's jurisdiction because safety and security must be ensured first. 
It is somewhat obvious that what they say that when the World Cup ends,  some will want to stay there as illegals , in any case, there are many citizens of other countries who are in the USA and work, taking care that the police catch them and deport them, as far as As far as I am concerned, I think that this will be very difficult for the USA to control, because there is clearly a lot of migration, from Venezuela they go to Colombia and they prefer to go through the Darien jungle, which is so dangerous, but even so they are looking for the American dream, now if they put As a resource for the World Cup, they can easily stay in the USA with many Excuses, and since the US elections are coming in 2024, it will be Interesting how they are going to handle this.
4451  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Another side of Sports betting you may not know about on: June 04, 2023, 02:19:28 AM
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In any area where there is a lot of money, and sports betting is just one of those areas, there will always be people seeking every possible way to cheat the system and make money on it. So just build into your analytics some probability that any match can be fixed. Understanding this is not so disappointing when the team that was supposed to win suddenly los

I agree with this motion, that's why casinos, betting houses should always have a very big vision about what their security can be, apart from this it could be said that casinos do not do things to reward those who manage to have or discover a vulnerability, and for this reason it is that they always exploit, so it is something that casinos have not yet taken into consideration to do and for their own security, so it is good that casinos invest a lot in their security as well There are reward programs for those who manage to get a vulnerability fixed.
4452  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Things that still make feel awkward with some online casinos on: June 03, 2023, 10:22:53 PM
Not just only Bitcoin withdrawal, even coins with very low transaction fee, isn't this robbery? If you just signed up on a centralized exchange, you can pretend as if you want to withdraw, to know how much the gas fee costs, but on online casino, you will see this only after you have enough wins or funds for withdrawal.
I noticed on some casinos that they are trying to take advantage of the bitcoin situation but the I wouldn't blame them. I would blame the gambler who returns to them over and over again when they have other options. I also understand that casinos use this fees to offset some their their costs such as operational costs, and also for processing withdrawals. You may want to reach out to their customer care agents to get clarifications and inquire what your other options may be.
I don't think that they charge more fees so that they can use this money for their operational costs since they already earn enough revenue to cover that with the money they are getting as profit when gamblers lose. If they use this excuse in front of their players that they are using the extra money they charge as fees for operational costs of the platform then it is a very lame excuse, to be honest.

They should be transparent and straightforward with these things, if they are really running short on revenue and using this method to cover the costs then they need to let their players know about it so that they understand the situation and either decide to stay or leave for another casino with lower fees.

The casinos that charge withdrawal fees is not a bad thing nor should it be interpreted as something bad because what is done here is to try to understand that the casinos cannot be covering those expenses that are our own, of course there are some casinos that do they assume that expense and although I do not agree that casinos charge more than they should even if bitcoin rises in price, I think that casinos should implement alternating solutions to avoid this, perhaps they will set up a Bitcoin to USDT exchange to that a withdrawal can be made in usdt and it is not a fee problem, it has happened to me that I have had to gamble too much to be able to withdraw considering the fee.
4453  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Don't gamble if you don't have patience on: June 03, 2023, 07:20:07 PM
The subject of this topic is very true, winning in gamble sure requires patience,. And this is not something that is peculiar to gambling alone, everything we do in life surely requires patience, two friends can invest in the same way, but one end up making much more profits than the other, what exactly differenciate this two is patience.


Well, not only in the casino but in everything in life, we must be patient and know how to wait, in the case of casinos we sometimes don't get impatient and we want to make a profit right away , but things are not like that, from the All that remains is fatigue, for this reason it is always good to have a lot of restraint when making any bet , or if you are in a game of dice or whatever, you should also think to see what it turns out for you, but playing for the sake of playing because there is no patience can lead us directly to Failure and that is what should be Avoided at all costs.
4454  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Aviator crash games - did anyone hear about it? on: June 03, 2023, 06:58:38 PM
Since last couple of days, my Facebook feed is literally flooded with advertisements from Aviator Crash game. I had installed the app but didn't deposit anything yet.

It seems they accept both fiat and cryptocurrency. Did anyone hear about this? Has anyone deposited money and experienced it?

I want to know your honest experience. Is it safe?
Haven't personally played it, but from the looks of it the game basically revolves around luck and timing your sell right in order to profit. Much like trading if you'll ask me. It's also designed to be very addicting, so it wouldn't surprise me if this suddenly becomes a global trend or phenomena and the makers of this game cash out on its success but in any case, I think it's a good game, can't trust it enough to actually play it but if you're into that kind of risk and you wanna try out trading without actually trading money/wanted to see how it's done at least in a game-form of perspective, otherwise just trade assets/cryptocurrency/whatever, it's pretty much the same thing with the timing and all that plus, it's way more workable considering there's profit to be made in the trading industry than with the gambling world.

Well, I don't really recommend games that are from apps and that are recommended in the facebook feed and social networks , because we don't know the origin of it, they can be very Legal and have good intentions, but it could also be that they have been programmed for highlighting or staging the players, this type of thing must be very measured, because when it comes to putting money or something like that, things change and it is more delicate, now if it is a game that is just for fun it is something else However , it is Dangerous because they can steal your phone data or something , so try to take good care of your Backs for this.
4455  Economy / Gambling / Re: chinese bookmakers with tf gaming platform NO KYC on: June 03, 2023, 02:09:34 PM
That's right. I'm not sure about the site in the OP, but scammers use "NO KYC" sign as often as unreal bonuses and stuff like that today. If you are not a high level criminal or corrupted official who want to launder millions of dirty USD you shouldn't be afraid of KYC. Don't be lured by shady sites, guys, only because they promise no KYC. Research further.
Don't get me wrong friends, there are still some big non KYC casinos that have been around for a long time and are now quite popular with a pretty good reputation.
Maybe there are some casinos that are non KYC and only aim to cheat but not all of them my friend.
Regarding the bonuses given by non-KYC casinos, they must be real and realized, even scam casinos will also provide bonuses that they provide to attract more gamblers.
I know that you mean well and you don't want many gamblers to become victims of casino scammers, but your presentation is still not quite right, friend.
Your point could be valid as you said but it's not safe running a online casino with no KYC verification, it shows that the online casino is running illegally and it's not permitted by any law to function, this could land them in serious trouble, also if you believe that some online casinos don't ask for KYC can you made mention of few?

I used to have an interest in such online casinos before but after reading about why other online casinos compulsory KYC verification I starter to trust them more and I stopped searching for the non-KYC online casinos.

Do list some popular online casinos that gamblers who hates passing KYC verification can use, I will like to see with my eye because I tried to find them with no luck, it's like they are off the radar or in hiding.

Many players like you have felt the need to stop playing in online casinos for asking for a kyc that is annoying for many and I understand them because these types of casinos are the ones that make anyone not play and prefer physical casinos, it is That part is understandable, as far as I am concerned, only the best casinos that I fully trust are the ones that I comply with my KYC, there are not many, I don't think I can count more than 5, but they are casinos that are reliable for me and that there is no danger, even so I understand your point and it is understandable in every way.
4456  Economy / Gambling / Re: Empowering Individuals Through Statistical Analysis: Building a Casino Simulator on: June 03, 2023, 05:53:58 AM
I think that gamblers have long been in need of such a tool,to visualize data they read on the Internet which in turn would help them make better decisions.I think that this software should be great and should be put free to try for about a month like most of the Sharewares are in order for everyone to try and if it really makes an impact then I think the creator of such tool should be getting some benefits,maybe a premium subscription for more options or something along these lines.Anyway I will give it a try first as Statistical Analysis if done right can help a lot in making a decision at which event is better for us sport bettors to bet for example.
This software should be trialed for 1-2 months so that we can determine the accuracy of the casino simulator. Certain fee will be paid for those that would be eager to make use of the software. Every casino gambler will be pleased to see such a device that will supply adequate aides to customers, creating statistics for all games, and providing a simple route for earning money and so entrapping more experience in the space. The presence of these casino simulators would encourage more gamblers to profit from online casinos. It is extremely tough to forecast and win, but with maximum aid for gamblers.
I'm not saying that a software of this style is bad, nor that it's very good, but I think that an AI could simulate what this type of software does, don't you think? I have read a lot about AI, and it seems that everything indicates that it could be that mathematical tools dominate and give results very quickly and without mistakes, for this reason I believe that these things, such as software, will be replaced by technology, which will immersed in it, then things changed here because it would no longer be software, it would be the criteria of the AI that could give advice on the person's prediction or decision.
4457  Economy / Gambling / Re: How succesful will AI projects be to win the house? on: June 03, 2023, 04:59:29 AM
For some games that involve an algorithm of some sorts like BlackJack or Poker, this could mean death, cause if word goes out that these foolproof games back then could be cracked by AI and exploited for hidden strategies and hints, it would mean that basically everyone will want to take a bite out of the pie and the chaos that may ensue will force casinos to close operations on games like it. For games of chances like roulette and dice, I'd say they still will persist cause no amount of cracking down or observation will work on a game like roulette that is basically following the laws of physics. So unless we get a quantum computer that could crack that with pinpoint-accuracy, these games will persist and AI will not as you put it, "win the house".
I think the same, both a quantum computer and a good AI specialized in predictions and games of chance is the only way I see to be able to beat a bookmaker, but there is still a long way to go for that, the first one has not even been released quantum computer and there is no advance in an AI specialized in prediction, even so a quantum PC is not the solution because it is or would be called a 1st generation of quantum computers, they would need improvements (like AI) for that reason I would think that there could be a better way to have control over this technology and that the results are truly good.
4458  Economy / Gambling / Re: BCGame Affiliate Program Issues on: June 03, 2023, 04:34:52 AM

Sadly, Casino think that Affiliates just milking money to them without doing anything that’s why it’s easy for them to cut loose since they already get what they want. Affiliate can’t pull out their invites so it’s take it or leave it already for them after the initial high affiliate commission.

Not only Affiliate commissions is what casinos now cutting expenses but also their bonuses for loyalty reward. Most of the perks is now decrease after getting their target customer volume from initial introduction benefits. This is why many gamblers is exploring new casino even if it’s dangerous.
This problem is so common when things are done that a community does not like, if there are bad decisions that harm a community, that community will quickly turn its back on the project or the casino, and this is very common in the projects, but in the casinos when they are with the affiliates and they mess with them, I think it is one of the worst decisions they can make, in this case it is as similar as messing with a community, at any moment they will take away all the support and they will not allow themselves to be or do the things that they are destined to commit, so support like this should not be allowed, it should not be treated like this, of course it is my Opinion , but I have gone through similar things with some Sites.
4459  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: June 03, 2023, 03:45:45 AM
I've never had refs myself, but I heard that it's not "waste of time", as you put it. In fact you don't waste any time, do you? The whole thing works on the background without your interference. I remember a funny case on freebitco.in, when a guy won the main prize in the weekly lottery without buying tickets, or even playing on the site during the week. He just got 1 ticket from his ref and won with that single ticket.
I think the reason why he said referral bonus is waste of time because he push yourself to much in order to attract people to sign up under his referral link. Usually this people will DM each user one by one, it's time consuming even though you're just copy paste your template text. It's different with someone who already have a lot followers in their social medias, they only need to create one post and pin it, their followers will see and might likely sign under their refs.
Let there be no misconceptions what ops mean is the ability to generate commission from referral activities and how to properly engage your downlines to generate enough activities through high-volume wagering and of multiple times to be able to generate good commission.

I lent some of the people that engage in referral activities always share a percentage of the referral rewards with their downlines to keep them motivated to wager more in other for the referee to generate a perceived income.


Yes, that is exactly what should be understood,  I have seen some people who take referral links or give their links in order to obtain large profits, but they are not clear about the percentages of profits and According to what the player that the player referred to , I think that each link according to the conditions under which they are given , they are not clear regarding profitability, they are small portions of money that are given to them according to the player's activity, and the more active players there are With the referral link , the greater the income of the person who shares the referral link , this is something that should always be taken into Consideration , because there are many who get Confused and complain for not having read the Terms.
4460  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What kind of rewards/bonuses do you prefer? on: June 03, 2023, 12:23:25 AM

^ The reason could be some gamblers may consider them a trap if they overlook or fail to fully understand those terms. Because this is very important to look at first, go to the TOS and read them all to understand everything. Because usually in TOS, wagering requirements are a common practice in the industry, serving as a means for casinos to protect their interests and ensure fair play. These requirements typically outline the number of times a bonus amount or winnings must be wagered before they can be withdrawn.
The question is,  do we really have those classes of gamblers who never read the TOS of casinos but want to claim bonuses,  this is something I find hard to believe and for some reason, I will say those sets of gamblers are deliberately doing that just to call out the casino unnecessarily.

But on a personal note,  the reason why I avoid bonuses is due to it wager requirement and the tendency to lose my winning trying to meet up with the wager requirements.

I believe there are still some gamblers who dont bother to read and understand the whole terms of bonuses before they decide to take/claim it. Most of them are newbies who have just started their gambling journey, maybe because they are attracted with a big banner like "100%-200% welcome bonus" so they think they will have more money to play (which is correct) but they have no idea that there are some rules behind the bonus. I will not deny the fact that I was in this situation when I was a newbie long time ago, when I made my first deposit ever in online casino and I claimed a 100% deposit bonus.
You are right in that sense, at some point I was a novice and yes, one falls for this type of bonds, because 100% means that they double the capital, that is something wonderful, but over time I realized that something is not pink color, that everything they do is to attract, it is very difficult to win once a bonus is taken in this way, apart from the money that was deposited, it is spent very quickly and if the player is a novice, and has no technique to make bets Because you lose your money very quickly and it can cause you frustration , this is something that in the long run can cause Addiction.
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