It appears to me that by the time double spending is detected you have two problems. Somebody has already lost their money and it is already too late. I am confident that an attack would be executed in seconds with the initial spend and the blocks in the pool (s) wouldn't be dispensed until the new chain was longer than the original ... so by the time it is detected it is too late.
You can't do it instantly, the attacker have to recreate all the confirmed blocks. If the sum is so large, that you are afraid of double spend - than wait for enough blocks. E.g. 6 blocks = 2 hours with 50% of network. In my opinion, monitoring for such block forks is much more important, than trying to impose cartel agreement of not having more than 50% on pool operators. If we could have such warning in clients, than it would be even better. Maybe such monitoring service should provide the API and charge a small use fee? It isn't so much to double spend but to hurt the Bitcoin network as a whole. I think the attack on Gox is proof enough that some people out there are willing to hurt this network. Also, pledging 10 BTC. |
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Even beyond the security problem, which is real imo, I don't understand why the miners who bailed out of slush's pool figured they should join the one pool with the highest fee oO"
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You should look in the tech support forum for doc on the API and php code to automate payement from your page.
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His point isn't related to taxes.That your company ensures the gov doesn't steal from you doesn't negate the fact that taxes are theft. Moreover, there aren't only income taxes out there. What about the rest?
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Lies exists everywhere, Democracy is far from perfect, but is the best thing to do "damage control" we know so far. Damage control against... the government itself? The implication of that sentence is that people need a government. Care to discuss that, cause I don't agree. By damage he means minority. And by control he means, well, "control." That made me cackle |
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Don't know where you got that one of "against the Tsar alone"...
most revolutions in Europe To trust in corporations There is a huge gap between private entrepreneurship and corporatism (public funds used for private interest). There is a compulsive need for leftist to be oblivious of government involvement in corporations, all the while calling it capitalism, which is its opposite. Lies exists everywhere, Democracy is far from perfect, but is the best thing to do "damage control" we know so far. Damage control against... the government itself? The implication of that sentence is that people need a government. Care to discuss that, cause I don't agree. |
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Do they really think us few crackpots mining Bitcoin would be even a dent in the AMD total sales?
Depends on how do you define "a dent". The Bitcoin hashrate increased by about 1000 6990 during the last 3 months. It's about 0.1% of the AMD graphic revenue during a quarter which is around $400 million. Of course not all of the new mining capacity went to AMD (some were old purchases, or nVidias or ArtForz's ASICs) but all 6xxx purchases and a large part of 5xxx went directly to AMD. If the difficulty increases 10-fold, which is highly likely, the increased capacity will be 1% of the AMD GPU quarterly sales. It will start to be a non-trivial part of their market. Implying nVidia won't react as soon as this turns into seizable market... |
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The major revolt on 1917 was against the "bourgeois", a class you would call nowadays the "capitalists", the "state" came along as it was protecting those "bourgeois".
I thought the revolution was mainly against the nobles, who held privileges. As a matter of fact, most revolutions in Europe were started by the bourgeoisie against the nobles, for they had the resources but were held down by the noble class privileges. Those privileges now belong to the state, but somehow that's alright? Also "the State" isn't meant to be "owned" by nobody (unless it is a Monarchy), so in a hypothetical well-made State, nobody would have any "unjustified privileges". Those "unjustified privileges" come out of some taking over the state and treat it as "their property". The state holds those privileges. Think about commons among other things. Anyone who controls the state controls those privileges. Since the state is judge, jury and executioner, it is natural it caters to the corrupt. Who would you rather corrupt? Some shop clerk, so that he allows you to sell a little drugs in the back of his shop, or the local cops, so you can sell drugs anywhere you want in town? but that's an usurpation of the meaning of Democracy Democracy in itself is the privilege of the many over the few. The state is made of men. The same men that you fancy so corruptible and greedy. What would separate them from those "evil" capitalist entrepreneurs? How do you explain that you fear and distrust people who made a lot of money on their own and eventually made themselves powerful but you won't fear and distrust those who became orders of magnitude more powerful for simply slipping a sweet lie to the masses? |
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The funny thing about leftist liberals is they can't wrap their mind around the fact that social liberties can't be achieved without economic liberty.
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all 3 will work great if only 3 is installed
if i install 4...then i get problems with the miner/openCL
i swapped all 4 cards (I have 8 total) and its not the cards, its somewhere software or motherboard setting related (i have two identical mobos too)
the mobo supports 4 graphics cards, at x8/x8/x8/x8
Oh that changes alot. Do you have one of those integrated graphics thing? AMD Windows drivers support only up to 4 gpus. |
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This is kinda insane. Not a single one of your cards work? Open the command prompt, run poclbm without flags and write down whatever you're getting. |
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This is an interesting thread. Here's my take:
Bitcoin is a fantastic tool, as it stands. Thus, I embrace it.
When it is no longer a useful tool, I will toss it like a broken clock.
In the face of what's coming is that an option? It's not that easy to change Bitcoin. This isn't OpenOffice, you need the miners and investors to adopt your modification to the code or it's all naught. |
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The official clock boundaries are set in the bios. I don't know much about Linux, on the other hand, I know from experience it's not too complicated to modify your bios with RBE (which is a windows tool if I recall. Yet once it's done, you're all good).
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Hmm, that's not an error I've ever seen. The gui miner should work regardless of the actual miner tools working.
I'm at a loss on this one - is that the same error you get when trying to run poclbm?
yes, except it says poclbm.exe, and it doesn't have the orange icon so, same thing really.... This was not happening untill I re-installed drivers Perhaps I should re-install windows? it only takes like 15 minutes anyway lol Just wondering, you sure you have installed opencl drivers? Or the sdk itself? |
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One problem I see with this is that people who simply disagree on a subject will start giving each other negative karma and eventually it will invalidate the helpful post they make
I think this is one problem the advanced reputation system attempts to address--users who get in a negative karma war will end up invalidating their own ability to influence reputation. Can someone who has used the system comment on the "softer" points of how it tends to work out socially? What about some sort of peer vouching system or mods review of a member before he/she becomes eligible for the system? |
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One problem I see with this is that people who simply disagree on a subject will start giving each other negative karma and eventually it will invalidate the helpful post they make
My fear too. |
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You're forgetting the BFI_INT part. People earned around 10-15% out of it. Before any of this, the network hashrate was around 750, and spiked beyond 800 a few times. The simple addition of BFI_INT would have the exact same network anywhere around 825~920 Gh/s.
Also I, too, am expecting the OCN crowd to bail out of mining within a couple weeks.
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based on the intrinsic properties I thought that was explicit enough. I am merely pointing out that both the poll question and the answers are poorly worded. For instance, in the example you quoted, what are the "intrinsic properties" of "it"? More to the point, what IS the "it" being referred to? You assume it's Bitcoin, but it may not be. The whole sentence stroke me as "do you value Bitcoin because of it's properties, which make it a proper currency". |
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based on the intrinsic properties I thought that was explicit enough. |
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So all the calculator "estimates" are wrong? ...then how long will it take me to actually get a block done lol.
The calculator isn't wrong. It shows the probability to solve a block based on time and hashing power. Your perception of hashing is some sort of linear, cumulative work that results in a block you are working on alone, like some sort of a puzzle. It is not. It is like brute force password cracking. You go through all the possibilities, hoping to hit the right one. Sometimes you luck out and hit it fast, sometimes you don't. The calculator gives you an estimate of how you long you have to hash in average to resolve a block. The increase of competitors is factored in with the difficulty so the calculator's estimate is about right. |
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