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4461  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 11:28:12 PM

Good to see the Republican Party doing their bit as fiscal conservatives.  

Muh trickle down economics. 
4462  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 08:16:13 PM
4463  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 09:48:08 AM
The fractal says a low of $3,800 in January 2019 but let’s wait and see.  It won’t be an exact match and lots of whales will be aggressively trying to chop up the market.
4464  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 09:25:54 AM
I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...


The next peak is $180,000 in December 2021.   But the next 12 months are going to be boring and depressing as batshit, with occasional moments of sheer terror.  

Make your plans accordingly.  I suggest deep cold storage. Put it under a concrete slab if necessary.

So you and wekkel are not voting option 4 in here  Roll Eyes

https://twitter.com/fundstrat/status/1046457776753573890?s=21

If we follow the pattern of 2014 / 5, it will bottom between January and September of next year. Except probably a bit sooner because all the traders will be trying to front run the pattern.  You just don’t want to make your run too early so they will want some confirmation before entering.
4465  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 03:55:49 AM

Haha. BCH dollar price up 4% in the couple hours since 'the sky is falling' tweet from pansy btcking555.

BCH should continue to pump (with ‘organic’ fluctuations) until the IPO date.  You can’t have a dump, without a pump.  After the IPO date, Bitmain will abandon it. 
4466  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 03:13:39 AM
Not until Q1 2021
4467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 02, 2018, 02:48:34 AM
I love how you all still have hope. It's refreshing. Undecided
I'd hope it all works out for you, but, well...


The next peak is $180,000 in December 2021.   But the next 12 months are going to be boring and depressing as batshit, with occasional moments of sheer terror.  

Make your plans accordingly.  I suggest deep cold storage. Put it under a concrete slab if necessary.
4468  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2018, 10:12:41 PM

Thanks for the article Hairy...... I cannot recall whether we have had any discussion in this thread about that particular topic, and I remain a bit confused about how much significance the Veem - thingie-ma-jiggy - shows beyond merely providing additional evidence that traditional financial institutions are taking greater and greater stakes in bitcoin related products/services?

Maybe Wall St is waking up to the fact that private / permissioned DLT ledgers are worthless.  But more likely they just want a finger in every pie. 
4469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2018, 10:11:13 PM
4470  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: October 01, 2018, 05:45:03 PM
Goldman invests in Bitcoin B2B payment services start up Veem

https://cointelegraph.com/news/goldman-sachs-leads-25-million-funding-round-for-blockchain-payments-startup-veem
4471  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 11:48:28 AM
I haven't done the full Math on this, but isn't that a back and forth kind of game (due to the presence of traders and speculators)?

Correlation vs Causation.  This is the Captain speaking.  If there is a statistician on board, please press the call attendant button to identify yourself to the cabin crew.  
From that perspective you can spin the argument up from both sides. The price is a result of the difficulty, as it dictates the supply. The cause that you speak of can be arbitrarily picked here. (Infinite difficulty = no coins = no price, hence the presence of a difficulty creates a price)

Except this isn’t really accurate. Difficulty adjusts both up and down. With a low enough difficulty I can run the entire Bitcoin network on my 2009 laptop.  Any decrease in supply due to a rapid decrease in hashrate is inconsequential on a multi year time line.
4472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 10:13:05 AM
I haven't done the full Math on this, but isn't that a back and forth kind of game (due to the presence of traders and speculators)?

Correlation vs Causation.  This is the Captain speaking.  If there is a statistician on board, please press the call attendant button to identify yourself to the cabin crew.  
4473  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 10:03:31 AM
Did you actually include the halving in your plot? How about difficulty increase (and hence mining cost per BTC)? Or did you just overlay the 2014 scenario without any other factors?

Yes I have adjusted the 2014 scale so that the 2014 halvening aligns with the projected May 2020 halvening date.

I have not taken difficultly into consideration as difficulty is an effect of price, it is not a cause. 
4474  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 09:41:41 AM
4475  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 12:55:07 AM
Musk to remain as CEO, steps down as Chairman

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/29/business/tesla-musk-sec-settlement.html
4476  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 12:31:59 AM
This is my best match against a 2014 scenario.



https://www.tradingview.com/i/YSYQZwmF/
4477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 30, 2018, 12:14:36 AM
High probability we test the yearly lows in Oct, and fall.

October is traditionally a rally month. 
4478  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 29, 2018, 09:04:48 PM
4479  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 29, 2018, 09:02:30 PM
Volume still looking like it has bottomed for the time being. 

4480  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: September 29, 2018, 06:22:48 AM
Brace yourselves.  We are edging another dump.  



4 hour chart for context

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