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4461  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: June 26, 2020, 03:45:11 PM
Because it had to be done.



Glad it kept the combover.
4462  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] whothefuckareyou on: June 26, 2020, 11:58:40 AM
I found an archived version of your post.

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Seller don't reply to email, so I will write here. I made a payment more than a week ago, but still have not received an account.

Seems to be a scammer that he would just delete your post instead of responding in thread. This account has changed hands at least twice before.

There was another interesting deleted post from the thread, from October 2019:

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I would just like to say to proceed with caution. This is most probably the same scammer (getpaidz) that I've been pursuing, who has just changed his game slightly. I have his details, if anyone is scammed by him, please feel free to contact me. He scammed $80 from myself.

He uses Shoppy stores, with fake feedback. He also uses Bitcointalk accounts created in 2011. The prices are the same ($80) which he was selling before. He also uses fake Bitcointalk accounts to simulate interest/ feedback.

But in any case, a seller using Shoppy is a bad sign. So please. Don't be foolish, don't just hand over your bitcoin to him. He will most likely scam you. If you use a escrow, make sure it is someone trusted - who will actually check the accounts.

He is moderating the topic. So, this warning may disappear.

Another warning sign is that he uses a bunch of noob accounts for fake vouches.

I'm going to tag him and here is the link to the flag.

If he has a good excuse, he can respond here and we'll see if it checks out.
4463  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it? on: June 26, 2020, 05:32:27 AM

And they call it what it is - a plurality:

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Note that a plurality of 91 million eligible voters did not vote.

Guess I'm just a simpleton who uses common dictionary terms.
Definition of majority : the greater quantity or share

Interestingly enough, plurality is also in the dictionary:

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/plurality?s=t
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the excess of votes received by the leading candidate, in an election in which there are three or more candidates, over those received by the next candidate (distinguished from majority).
4464  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone... What are your thoughts on it? on: June 25, 2020, 05:27:24 PM
"Neither"  was the largest segment of registered voters.

It's misleading to call it a "majority" in election context, which typically means >50%. What you're describing is usually called a "plurality" when talking about elections.

It's also a bit weird to say "the majority of Americans voted for no one." That makes it sound like they walked into the voting booth and wrote in "No One."

The majority of voters actually voted for Hillary.

I have to take that back; the 3rd parties + Trump beat out Hillary.
4465  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 25, 2020, 01:40:54 PM
too many people have too much emotion when they read things that they concentrate on certain extracts and sway the summary of the extract into one that makes it look like its going to end in CSW fall..
but this is just a tennis game where ira and CSw want to keep the vaguest of hints that there is/was a satoshi partnership.

Sigh. I tried my hardest and you still learned nothing. You didn't even concede that you had no idea what a "default judgment" is.

Its not about making it look like he's going to fall -- its about debunking your theory that Ira's lawyers believe there's a Tulip Trust. They're obviously not on the same team. You have no evidence to support your conspiracy that they are.

I'm sticking you back on ignore as I've had more enlightening discussions with brick walls. I don't remember why I took you off in the first place.

What a waste of time.
4466  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 25, 2020, 01:24:09 PM
TL;DR: The plaintiffs think the Tulip Trust is a sham.
Additionally, criminal charges against Wright were never on the table.

1. i read more then you think
and even in the extracts you produce only allude to CSW's frauds of signing notary on behalf of supposedly dave. and other fraudulent documents.

No, that's not what the extracts I produced allude to at all. I don't think you even read them.

this case where both ira and CSW are both trying to validate the trust. by only arguing who's involved where the only debate is CSW lack of handing over evidence. still works in CSW favour.

I don't know how you can keep repeating this when I just debunked this falsehood. Nobody thinks the Tulip Trust exists except for Craig, his lawyers, and BSV fanbois. Ira's lawyers think its a smokescreen for hiding where the real loot is at. At least we can agree that there is no real loot.

You need to bring some evidence to the table that supports your assertion otherwise its just another groundless conspiracy. Just mindlessly repeating it as reality does not make it so.
4467  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud - Tulip Trust addresses signed message on: June 25, 2020, 12:41:24 PM
seems a certain few people above cant think for themselves
havnt bothered even reading the filings and jst relying on social drama teams of buddies as their opinion givers.

I've read more of the filings than just about anybody on this forum (there is 1 exception that I am aware of and he/she hasn't commented in this thread) and I've definitely read more of the filings than you, which is why I can say with certainty you are wrong.

The attorneys for the plaintiff only believe a Tulip Trust exists because Craig said that it did, but given Craig's propensity for lying about everything, they are willing to consider its existence debatable. Judge Reinhart believes Craig lied about the existence of the trust, and the plaintiffs don't necessarily disagree with him.

From a May 22nd document filed by the plaintiffs:

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Judge Reinhart found Wright had “intentionally submitted fraudulent documents to the Court, obstructed a judicial proceeding, and gave perjurious testimony.” ECF No. [277], at 28. He found “clear and convincing evidence” to support these findings. Id. at n.11, n14. He also found "Wright’s testimony that this Trust exists was intentionally false" and “part of a sustained and concerted effort to impede discovery into his bitcoin holdings.” Id. at 21. He found “clear and convincing evidence” demonstrated that “no such [Shamir encrypted] file exists” and that Wright’s testimony it did was “intentionally false.”

Finally, he found a “strong, and unrebutted, circumstantial inference that Dr. Wright willfully created the fraudulent documents.” Id. at 21. Judge Reinhart then imposed sanctions under Fed. R. Civ. P 37 deeming the following facts established: that Wright and David Kleiman entered into a 50/50 partnership to develop Bitcoin intellectual property and mine bitcoin; that any bitcoin mined or IP developed prior to David Kleiman’s death was property of the partnership, and that Plaintiffs retained an ownership interest in the Partnership’s bitcoin and any assets traceable to them. Id. Judge Reinhart found “clear and convincing evidence that Dr. Wright’s non-compliance with the Court’s Orders is willful and in bad faith, that Plaintiffs have been prejudiced, and (particularly given the extended pattern of noncompliance and its egregiousness) a lesser sanction is not adequate to punish or to ensure future compliance with the Court’s Orders.”

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After Wright’s May 8, 2019 declaration affirmed that he’d mined bitcoin “during the years 2009 and 2010 . . . directly into a trust . . . located in Panama” (ECF No. [222], ¶4; [373], at 6), Plaintiffs began building their case around these sworn representations. To that end, they identified an August 11, 2014 ATO transcript (Ex. 13, at DEF_00068671) where Wright told the ATO he had mined bitcoin with Dave into a Panama trust. But ten months later, when asked at deposition “Did you ever mine Bitcoin into a Panama trust?” Wright responded with “No, I did not mine Bitcoin into a Panama trust.” Ex. 3, at 104:8-11. The examples above are just some of the ways Wright’s lies, forgeries, and deceptions have obstructed Plaintiffs ability to discover the scope and extent of the Satoshi Nakamoto Partnership. This obfuscation is particularly egregious as Defendant has moved for summary judgment on the ground that the terms of the partnership are too “vague.”

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The sheer implausibility of the Tulip Trust III document, its supposed express condition to keep the document from Wright until December 2019, and the fact that it was produced with no metadata, all pointed to it being a recent forgery. What conclusively proves the fraud, however, is that the Trust claims to have been executed on July 7, 2017 and lists “JBruk Ltd (UK) (10859457)” as one of its assets. Ex. 14, at DEFHC_01518393. But JBruk Ltd wasn’t incorporated until July 11, 2017. Ex. 15. Thus, Tulip Trust III could not have been executed on July 7 since neither JBruk nor the corporate number assigned to it would have existed yet.

TL;DR: The plaintiffs think the Tulip Trust is a sham.

ira requested a default judged that would have validated that the tuli trust was a triparty trust between CSW and kleiman.
and wrote it in a way that would have avoided any criminal actions against CSW by keeping it as civil and avoid any trial

That's not at all what a default judgment would have meant. A default judgment would mean that Craig made it impossible for a fair trial to be conducted -- it has nothing to do with whether or not the Tulip Trust actually exists.

Additionally, criminal charges against Wright were never on the table.
4468  Bitcoin / Press / [25-6-20] Bitcoin.com Forum Closes on July 23 on: June 24, 2020, 05:21:33 PM
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoincom-forum-closes-on-july-23

Bitcoin.com Forum Closes on July 23

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Bitcoin.com’s forum will close in one month.

The Bitcoin.com forum, one of the most popular forums in the crypto community, has abruptly announced closure.

A place for the heated debates and thoughtful cryptocurrency-related discussions, Bitcoin.com’s forum will terminate its services on July 23, 2020. The news was reported by the forum’s administrator in a thread posted on June 24.

In the post, the forum admin provided few details about the upcoming closure. The post does not specify the reasons behind the action.

Bitcoin.com’s forum is associated with the Bitcoin.com website — one of the oldest and biggest cryptocurrency-related web portals in the world. Backed by early Bitcoin (BTC) adopter and investor, Roger Ver, the website provides a number of Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash (BCH) services, including a cryptocurrency exchange.

Never visited it myself, but I'm sure its quite a shame... A real, crying shame in fact.

4469  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: June 24, 2020, 01:50:47 PM


Just felt like ranking the most boring things on WO on a scale from Vince to McMahon. Carry on.
4470  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Post Your Favorite Trump Memes Here on: June 24, 2020, 12:10:30 PM


This is perhaps the most bizarre Trump meme posted yet. Good job. Definitely wins an award in some category. Best Trump Shaped Out of Meat Award.

Here's the runner up:



4471  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 24, 2020, 08:02:55 AM
Looking better than ever for suchmoon.

https://projects.economist.com/us-2020-forecast/president?utm_campaign=us2020-forecast




Of course, if there's anything to be learned from last time, its that its not over until the fat lady sings...
4472  Economy / Speculation / Re: Double bottom @ 3.1k or lower low @ 2k? on: June 23, 2020, 03:40:25 PM
How many months do we have to wait before you admit neither scenario was "possible"?

Word of advice: next time you make a poll, include a "neither" option. Your poll is the equivalent to asking the question "what is your favorite color" and then only providing "lime" and "periwinkle" as voting options.
4473  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Trump Designates Antifa "A Terrorist Organization"' on: June 23, 2020, 02:20:03 PM
BLM needs to be designated as a terrorist organization also.

They've declared war on police. That's no secret.  


Imagine if the NRA had done the same.

I can't find the quote where BLM New York chapter chairman Hawk Newsome actually says this. I see an interview with the Daily Mail where they put the words 'war on police' in quotations, then there's some websites that plagiarized that article, but don't see the actual context of how he said it.

Besides, you can't really compare the NRA with BLM. NRA is a lobbying group and BLM is an activist movement.
4474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 💧RAIN Network [RAIN] 💧 - Decentralized Autonomous Rewards Platform on: June 23, 2020, 12:18:23 PM
Okay, so its a Ponzi scheme by a serial ponzi maker. That's great. What a waste of a Copper Membership.

From the group's discord:
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🚨 RAIN TOKEN is a rugpull by SpydrZero, founder of pyro network and Unidollar. He JUST ripped liquidity from Unidollar today (a measly 6eth) and went ghost on his investors. Can head over to the unidollar telegram and see the aftermath once he pulled liquidity today.. shitshow. Spydr has a long history of abandoning projects, has ZERO understanding of tokenomics.. This project is a clone of Unidollar (which he held 18m tokens of across multiple wallets) and is a poorly coded contract that results in nearly 1/4 of a transactions to fail. Let this be a warning! And if you decide to roll the dice, at least you know where to go looking when lose your eth

This ANN post was created 30 minutes after SpydrZero's last login. Hours earlier SpydrZero announced he had "removed his liquidity" from the Unidollar project. It has dropped 88% in price over the last 4 days. From the Unidollar TG group today:

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Nice. It seems a lot of the community is interested in RAIN Network from the pms im getting. All I can say is I am not affiliated with the project but they seem to be going in a good direction. I am not out to hate on any project. I want to see crypto flourish as a whole.

They both have identical smart contracts (except for total number of tokens) and use the same Uniswap token swap service. The websites were designed using different builders but they both use the same font scripts.

Hmm.
4475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] 🦄 UniDollar 🦄 - First Proof of Stake + Proof of Liquidity Token on: June 23, 2020, 12:01:16 PM
Wow, an 88% loss 4 days after being listed on CMC. That's got to be some kind of a record! Hey dev, are you this guy by any chance?
4476  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 23, 2020, 07:48:14 AM
The elections are run by the states. The president has nothing to do with running the election.

You misinterpreted what I said. I didn't say Trump was "running the election." As the head of state, Trump is the top representative of the federal government -- the one that upholds the constitution which created the electoral college who elects the president. By claiming the vote is "rigged" before it even happens, he is undermining the constitution and thus the legitimacy of his own office.
4477  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [BET] Trump or not Trump 2020, eddie13 vs suchmoon on: June 23, 2020, 06:45:10 AM
It would appear Trump is getting cold feet about the election...



Of course, Trump wouldn't be Trump without undermining the validity of the institution he is the head executive of. The election of course hasn't happened yet, and he's already declaring it to be "rigged." Will this still be the case if he wins?

It's great that he can make such proclamations before something has happened, without any evidence whatsoever, and his followers will just unquestionably swallow them whole. That way if he loses, it wasn't his fault. And if he wins, well who cares what he said before because he already won.
4478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] WAX - Worldwide Asset eXchange by OPSkins on: June 23, 2020, 06:16:38 AM
The third member of the WAX Advisory Council is Jay Ong, Executive Vice President and Head of Marvel Games.
Check the announcement here.

Pretty stoked!

Can you explain a bit about what the Advisory Council does?
4479  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: June 22, 2020, 04:49:21 PM
Con artists are experts at manufacturing this kind of popularity. You know what they can't manufacture? Years of reliable and trustworthy behavior.

The trust system as it exists now is not just inequitable, it is a security threat. If anyone who has spent years building their reputation in this sea of fraud known as Bitcointalk can have it stripped so easily with a handful of sock puppets, what is to stop that from being done in order to force silence and complicity to obfuscate fraud?

You still don't get it.

The trust system isn't just about trust ratings. DT is about having a good sense of judgment of who uses the trust system correctly. As a matter of fact, all the positive trusts anyone has accumulated over the years demonstrates nothing about their own ability to use the trust system correctly. You haven't exactly had "years of reliable and trustworthy behavior" in that regard.
4480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Ghost by McAfee on: June 22, 2020, 10:32:46 AM
Crypto is a Clown World, it`s more about creating a huge hype about "the next big thing" than about serious work.

While I appreciate your honesty, you are completely wrong here. Crypto in itself is just a technology - it is not bad or good - it just is. The clowns in crypto insist on pretending crypto is a Clown World in order to justify their scammy behavior. Creating undue hype in order to market a scam is nothing new and has been done since the beginning of civilization.

OK, so instead of being a clone of Pivx its now a clone of Particl: still, absolutely nothing new or innovative being done here. There is some plagiarism happening in the new white paper but it isn't from Particle, its from Zcoin.

From the new Ghost white paper (copied words are bolded):

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Usually, cryptocurrency transactions are broadcasted across the network using the Gossip protocol, in which every node sends the transaction to all the nodes, to which it is connected. While the current system is efficient, it is also possible to de-anonymize the original sender of the txs [Fan18]. Dandelion++ makes a simple but crucial change to the current transaction broadcasting pattern.

Instead of sending transactions to all connected nodes on the network, Dandelion++ initially sends them to only one other node. This next node then randomly decides if it Ghost, a peer-to-peer privacy-oriented electronic cash system broadcasts the transaction on to just one, or all of its connected peers. With the introduction of the element of chance, the propagation pattern now becomes unpredictable, making it infeasible to trace a specific transaction back to the original tx broadcaster’s IP address.

From zcoin.io:
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Usually, the way that cryptocurrency transactions spread across the network is very predictable. While the current system is effective, it is also vulnerable to low-cost, large-scale deanonymization attacks. Dandelion++ makes a simple but crucial change to the previous broadcasting pattern.

Instead of sending transactions to all neighbors, Dandelion++ initially sends them to only one other node. This next node then rolls a dice to decide if it passes it on to just one or all of its neighbors. With the introduction of this element of chance, the propagation pattern now becomes unpredictable, making it infeasible to follow the transaction back to the sender.

This isn't plagiarism but it certainly is a lie:

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Why Particl?

When Ghost was initially started, it was an unanimous decision from the development team to fork the codebase from this open source project . Further to their initial bitcoin fork, they have extended the functionality of their network in a direction that similarly aligned their goals with the ones Ghost has.

1. The initial idea was actually to clone Pivx and hope nobody would notice.
2. After getting caught, they just cloned a smaller project instead of bothering to create anything original.

This project has quite a few markings of a scam and if they had an official account on this forum I would probably tag & flag them.

Don't buy this bullshit unless you like losing money.
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