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4461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: cryptocoin.info hacked? on: April 11, 2012, 10:47:41 AM
Looks weird. The source isn't even proper HTML.

"index.htm" and "index.html" give me 404 errors. (It makes me respect Firefox a bit more for somehow rendering it.)

Try index.php. Anyway, judging by the fact that the 404 error message is hosted on filenetworking.com, which has the same IP address (184.172.150.4) and nameservers (NS2849.HOSTGATOR.COM and NS2850.HOSTGATOR.COM) as cryptocoin.info even though the two domain names were registered through two different companies (Dotster, Inc. and Domain.com, LLC), plus the fact that the cryptocoin.info domain was recently (2 April 2012) changed for no obvious reason, I'm guessing it was hacked.
4462  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: One wallet for home and work? on: April 11, 2012, 09:06:21 AM
you're fine for viewing balances, but as soon as you spend from one wallet, they'll become unsynchronised.

To elaborate, the wallet from which you spend the coins will generate a hidden "change" address which will not be present on the other wallet*, causing you to lose a few coins (actually, you don't really lose them, they'll just only be visible (and spendable) from one wallet and not the other). However, if you always create a new copy of your wallet file after any time you spend some coins or create a new address, and remember to always transfer this up-to-date wallet file before you do anything else, there'll be no problem.

*Actually, I think the standard client generates a certain number of change addresses in advance for the sole purpose of avoiding this exact problem, but I'm not 100% sure. Best to play it safe and keep your wallet files synchronised.
4463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Legitimate use of Bitcoin on: April 11, 2012, 07:11:54 AM
On quick look at bitcoinwatch.com tells me that the total volume of bitcoin in motion in the past 24 hours was 904,380.25 BTC while the volume on the exchanges presented on that same page total under 73,000.  Granted, there could be a great deal of cash trading off of those markets and some of that first number is users moving BTC from one address to another.  But it seems a bit silly to think that with a daily volume over 10% of the entire monetary base in current circulation, cash/bitcoin trades could make up anything near a majority of real economic trade volume.

But just how much of that 904,380.25 BTC is simply people sending coins to themselves for legitimate (change) or illegitimate (laundering) purposes? You don't know. Nobody knows. In any case, 10% of the entire economy is more than a significant fraction, and unless you can show evidence that some other use of bitcoins accounts for more than that, then I stand by what I said.
4464  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Measurement of Difficulty on: April 11, 2012, 05:10:42 AM
Difficulty is the maximum possible hash target divided by the current hash target. The average time to find a block (in seconds) is equal to the current difficulty times 2^32 (4,294,967,296) divided by your hashrate (in hashes per second) (eg, if your hashrate is 1 Ghash/s = 1,000,000,000 hashes per second then the average time it will take you to find a block is (1,626,553 x 4,294,967,296 / 1,000,000,000 = 6,985,992 seconds = 80 days).

Since the difficulty is adjusted so that miners find blocks on average once every 10 minutes (600 seconds), the total hashpower of the network is equal to the difficulty times 2^32 divided by 600 (eg, 1,626,553 x 4,294,967,296 / 600 = 11,643,319,900,351 hashes per second = 11.6 terahashes per second). That's how much hashpower you need to pull off a 51% attack. Good luck! Grin
4465  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Legitimate use of Bitcoin on: April 11, 2012, 04:25:44 AM
I thought the vast majority of bitcoins were used to buy dollars. Which were then used to buy bitcoins again. Sometimes at a profit (and sometimes not). Hopefully this situation will change as bitcoins become more widely accepted.
4466  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Exactly how does a miner... mine? on: April 10, 2012, 04:36:30 AM
I know how to use a miner, how to use a pool and stuff like that, and I have done it before (and am right now), but I've always wondered what the actual process was to calculating hashes? What is my miner doing right now?
The idea of mining is to calculate a cryptographic hash of a block (a block is basically just a list of recent transactions, a hash of the previous block (so you can't prepare fraudulent blocks in advance), and some other stuff) such that the value of the hash is lower than a predetermined target. If it is, you win: your block gets included in the block chain and you receive the block reward (currently 50 BTC) as well all the transaction fees associated with that block. If the hash doesn't come under the target, you lose, and you have to try again by changing a small piece of data in the block (called the nonce) which causes the whole hash to change in a random way. The key point about a cryptographic hash is that it's impossible to predict what effect changing the nonce (or any other part of the data) will have on the hash: the only way to get a hash that meets the target is to try every possible nonce (a typical mining system is capable of trying millions per second) until you find one that works. This is key to the security of Bitcoin: it's impossible for anyone to introduce a fraudulent block without first using a ton of computing power to find one that meets the hash target. Not only that, they'd need (on average) more computing power than the rest of the network combined, because if anyone else finds a real block first, all the effort trying to produce a fraudulent block is wasted.

I've seen this:
Quote from: Pieter Wuille
Code:
doHash(block_header) {
  hasher = new SHA256();
  hasher.update(block_header[0..63]);      // update A1
  hasher.update(block_header[64..127]);  // update A2
  hash1 = hasher.getHash();
  hasher.reset();
  hasher.update(hash1);                         // update B
  hash2 = hasher.getHash();
  return hash2
}

but I have pretty much no clue what it means.
This code just calls the hashing function on the blocks, there's nothing special about it.
4467  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: A proposed solution to adjust for lost Bitcoins: wallet 'heartbeats' on: April 09, 2012, 03:03:10 PM
My guess is that a single entity will acquire 51% sometime during the next block reward cycle. (that is during the period when the block reward is equal to 25, starting in December of 2012). If the individual is malicious (admittedly unlikely), the developers will likely be taken by surprise and won't have time to save the blockchain. This idea of waiting for bitcoin to die before taking precautionary measures is foolhardy.

It won't take anyone by surprise, and the blockchain won't need saving. There's nothing to save it from. There's just not a whole lot of damage you can actually do with 51% of the hashpower. Block other people's transactions? The transactions will get through the instant you lose your 51%. Double-spend your coins? You'd need to double-spend a lot of coins at once to make it worth the amount of money a 51% attack would cost, because it only works once: as soon as your coins are first double-spent, everyone will realise that the network is compromised and will refuse to trust any future large transactions until it's clear the attack is over, at which point it's business as usual again. No precautionary measures are needed because the network is already designed to handle this threat.
4468  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Value on: April 09, 2012, 08:51:53 AM
That is true, only if it's possible to "lend" bitcoin.  What you are describing is fractional reserve banking and is completely counter-productive to what bitcoin represents.
Of course it's possible to lend bitcoins. It's also possible to have fractional reserve banking with bitcoins. Neither of these is any way against what bitcoin represents. Bitcoin represents a currency, nothing more.
4469  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: April 09, 2012, 06:31:52 AM
Is there any way to add public keys to a watching-only wallet?

I want to monitor some addresses on a web wallet from inside Armory.  For now, I imported the private key, turned the wallet into a watching-only wallet, and then flagged it as owned by someone else.  This works fine for now, but is a bit too many steps and a pain to do again if I add more keys.

That only works if change gets sent back to your original address instead of a new address, otherwise the public key will show less money than is actually in the wallet. And there's no surer way of scaring people than telling them they have less money than they thought they did:
"Okay, so I'll send 0.5BTC and... wait, why'd my balance just go down by 20BTC? I only sent 0.5BTC!! Didn't I? FFFFUUUUUU!!!"
4470  Economy / Economics / Re: BITCOIN ATM MACHINES on: April 09, 2012, 05:57:22 AM
A better idea is for the machine to display a QR Code, you scan it and send your bitcoins to that address (using your own device), then you get your cash. Putting your private key data on a public machine is kinda dumb. The problem is that an ATM can't afford to wait several minutes for confirmation (though there are solutions).
4471  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: April 09, 2012, 04:35:57 AM
I'll see what I can do about changing the behavior for offline mode:  for now you can test it yourself:  https://github.com/etotheipi/BitcoinArmory/blob/master/ArmoryQt.py#L535 .  Look for "timeout" and change it to 5 or 10, or whatever seems appropriate. 

Thanks, that fixes it. I am curious why you thought a timeout of only 1 second would work in all cases; not everyone has cable or even DSL for that matter (at least not everyone in Australia Cry) This really needs to made configurable. And I take it that you'll be testing Internet connectivity by connecting to the actual Bitcoin network, rather than Google, once you've got the actual networking side done?
4472  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Help! Need to transfer... on: April 09, 2012, 03:14:10 AM
Sorry, but as with real wallets, if you lose your Bitcoin wallet, all the money in it is as good as gone unless you can find it again. Have you tried looking under the sofa cushions? Seriously though, how did you manage to lose it?
4473  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: April 09, 2012, 01:37:13 AM
I've built Armory (0.70-beta)-alpha on MEPIS 11 (a distro based on Debian 6) and I'm having a major problem and few minor problems.

The major problem is that most of the time it'll flat-out refuse to start in online mode complaining that it doesn't have an Internet connection. My Internet connection has a highly variable latency (sometimes it's around 50ms, sometimes it's 5 seconds or even more) due to wireless reception issues, could that be the problem? If so, a higher (preferably configurable) timeout and/or a "Retry" button on the message box would be in order.

The minor problems are that the windows are just not wide enough to see everything without scrolling, and I have to make them a few pixels wider (or else maximise the window). But the program doesn't remember its window sizes when I quit (nor does it remember if it was maximised), so I have to do this every single time, which is most annoying.

Also, the advanced encryption options only appear when creating a new wallet. When encrypting a wallet after it's been created, the advanced encryption options don't appear. Is there no way to change the advanced encryption options for an existing wallet?

One more thing which isn't really a problem as such, but may be a possible source of confusion for new users, is that the "Receive Bitcoins" button creates a new address (without even asking for confirmation), while the same button on the Satoshi client displays a list of existing addresses, with an option to create new ones. I think it would be better to have a dialog asking the user whether they want to select an existing address (assuming the wallet has at least one address already), or create a new one (yes, you can put a "Don't ask me again" checkbox to avoid annoying those who actually like the present behaviour).

Also, I have a dark colour scheme too, and I have the same problem that dooglus has. Half the text is either light grey on white or dark red/green on dark grey. Argh, my eyes! One option (which shouldn't be too difficult) is to algorithmically generate colours based on the system colours, eg (pseudocode): GreenText = (SystemText * RGB(0.0, 1.0, 0.0)) + RGB(0.0, 0.25, 0.0); to get a dark green on systems with black text and a bright green on systems with white text, etc.

Oh, and the issue with running multiple instances of Armory should definitely be a high priority. Merely telling people not to do that is not a satisfactory solution, given the consequences.
4474  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: April 08, 2012, 02:02:23 PM
Yeah I was just curious how much it costs you when it is idling vs how much when its 100% chugging along.

Yes, that does make a bit of a difference. I don't know exactly how much of a difference, but... yeah. Oh, I should also point out that I don't usually run all of my PCs all the time (as is typical for a mining operation), for exactly this reason. A single PC has lower power requirements, but correspondingly lower returns. You can't really do much with just one PC. Generally you want several PCs each with multiple GPUs, or else some kind of specialised hardware. Not to mention some means of powering the whole operation that costs less than the bitcoins you're mining (this is where the whole plan falls apart, at least in Australia).
4475  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: April 08, 2012, 11:31:19 AM
you in Aus aswell ?

I have been trying to figure out how much it would cost...  I just pay the bill when it arrives... i never realy look at the kw costs etc..
how much power would it use and cost to have your pc idling and mining 24/7 ?

thanks

But your PC isn't idling during mining, and that's the problem. Your system needs to exert some serious computing power, and you need some serious cooling to go with it. All up, my PCs draw 3-4 kW for around $16-$22 per day. I haven't actually tried mining with my system, but by my guesstimate it should do about 2Ghash/s, and mine about 1BTC per day. Not even worth trying.
4476  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Marketing strategy for BitCoin, does it exist? on: April 08, 2012, 11:05:20 AM
the facts are, bitcoin is non-reversible and can be used anonymously.  that attracts scammers and criminals as well.

wouldn't you feel guilty if a stranger were to cut themselves stepping on broken glass after you simply covered it over with a tissue hoping to hide that it exists?

skepticism is necessary at this juncture because the general public is so used to being protected they don't know that basic in protecting themselves.

Nobody's trying to hide anything. Scammers and criminals are attracted to anything with money involved, everybody knows that, and Bitcoin is no exception. I think the general public does (or at least, should) understand the importance of protecting themselves, given the number of scams involving fiat currency.

In my experience, people (especially people unfamiliar with e-commerce) are worried about two things when buying things online: "What if they steal my money?" and "What if they steal my identity?" With Bitcoin, the second question disappears completely, which I think is one of it's major selling points. The first question is (at least partly) answered by dealing only with reputable merchants and escrow services, which is what most people try to do anyway when using credit cards online, if only because having to reverse credit card transactions is a pain.
4477  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: April 08, 2012, 09:00:26 AM
hey All Smiley

I am Justin from Australia (seems to be a few Aus folk here). Just became somewhat familiar with Bitcoins and loving the concept.
I just wish I had the equipment to do some mining.

I've got the equipment (a bunch of gaming machines each with one or two high-end RadeonHD cards), I just wish we had cheap enough electricity to make mining even close to profitable. Cry With electricity prices being what they are, the very idea of running all these machines 24/7 at 100% load makes me cringe. A more specialised setup (eg FPGA) would be cheaper, but still nowhere near cheap enough.
4478  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Marketing strategy for BitCoin, does it exist? on: April 07, 2012, 03:17:19 AM
Trust is always required, and it will always be abused by scammers, regardless of whether you shop with bitcoins, cash, or credit. Either you have to trust that the seller will give you the goods (caveat emptor), or the seller has to trust that you won't reverse the transaction after receiving the goods (caveat vendor). Bitcoin follows the former model, credit cards follow the latter model. You can't have it both ways.

As for major financial institutions being hacked, it's not just specific to Bitcoin: regular banks and payment processors get hacked, companies storing customer's credit card details get hacked, etc. It happens all the time. You almost can't even turn on the news without hearing about something like that happening. So I don't think Bitcoin's negative publicity is any worse than any other financial system.

How to generate positive publicity for Bitcoin is a tricky question. I don't think it's mature enough at this stage to go mainstream. Definitely we should wait until the first block reward halving, since that's the big question on everyone's mind right now (and is related to the all-too-common question of what happens when block rewards cease completely) and nobody really knows what effect it will have on the market. Assuming halving the block reward doesn't cause any major disruption, there'll be a lot less uncertainty about the future of Bitcoin, and that will put it in a much stronger position for widespread adoption. Then we can start thinking about publicity.
4479  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Sinking ships on: April 07, 2012, 01:00:58 AM
Recycling metal is almost as expensive as mining it out of the ground. Add to that the cost of dismantling the ship (which is a huge job, requiring a drydock facility), and it's just not worth it. Metal has to become a lot more valuable in order for recycling a ship to become profitable.
4480  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Introduce yourself :) on: April 07, 2012, 12:40:17 AM
Hi, I'm Foxpup, from Australia. I recently found out about Bitcoin and I think it's the greatest thing to happen to the Internet since PGP.
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