the hashrate is clearly displayed, you can see 40mega, 40.721.398H, if this is with two 980, it's relly bad, because my single 970 is doing 22M
what version 970 do you get 22mhs with , I have two EVGAs and an MSI and they get 20.9 , 21 and 18 respectively |
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You don't have to worry about ASICs coming in and start mining ETH.
You should worry about the GPUs that everybody is buying right now and increasing the hashrate or that price won't crash.
you should worry more about those with cheap electricty, those are the real plague that promote centralization, gpu or asic Yeah mostly the Chinese, at least ethereum is still profitable with high electricity costs right now |
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Even if your theory was sound eth is only POW for the next 12 months even if we see delays in serenity which is the pow fork you're talking 16 months max , there is no where near enough lead time for anything more than maybe fpa development ASICs are out of the qestion
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Putting aside ETH valuation, rising difficulty, and the specter of PoS somewhere down the road, the Ethereum hash algo will *never* be implemented on an ASIC. It was designed that way. ASICs are great for doing fixed calculations on a (small) block of data. However, the ETH algo is much more than calculations. To be able to perform the hash, you first most load the DAG data, which is current approaching 1.4 GB. That size increases every "epoch", which is approximately 30,000 blocks or, currently, -6 days. It increases because it changes, i.e. it has to be periodically loaded again. For each ETH hash, there are 64 *random* 128 *byte* reads of the DAG, with an intermediate FNV hash between each access. The ETH algo is not compute bound, it's memory access time bound. The limit of current memory cycle times is the limit of the maximum ETH hash rate. An ASIC can do absolutely nothing to improve that, nothing. Not to mention, current mining ASICs don't have any significant memory interface capabilities that could address the needs of the ETH algo. Saying you're at risk mining ETH with GPUs, because ASICs are going to come along, as they did with BTC, etc. is a complete fallacy, it's nonsense, and it reflects a total lack of understanding of what the ETH algo was designed to do, and does very well. The *only* viable way to mine ETH is with GPUs, and that won't change until PoS comes to be.
-Best Care
David
Propably stupid question, but isn't there faster memory than what is used in GPUs? That one, what is used in processors? What if someone builds a dedicated ETH miner using that? Or would that betoo expensive? You're right dumb question, either buy a gpu or gtfo there's no shortcut and please dont ask if you can use a bitcoin miner to mine eth jesus |
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Can I use tho to solo mine?
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If you start investing big when the price is already soaring for any coin, you're already too late to the party...
Dont' be so sure the initial miners made all the profits , back when eth was launched they were dumping coins at .70-80 cents belive me i was one of them , if i had hind sight would have kept all my eth and make over 20k since i started mining right from the start. I dont think its way too late to mine if you already have GPU's in hand , if you dont then its probably a bad idea , just buy ETH instead of GPUs unless you have access to cheap GPUs like i did. I think the bubble has just started ETH is the new LTC it will pop to close to $20 usd at some point , i think thats where the reall $$ will be made , but it will be in buying and hoarding rather than mining, its too late to mine because the hash rate will just keep jumping as soon as the Chinese and their free power get into the action it will be over. |
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When the difficulty is rising fast, it is better to do pool mining now. As you can get payment when the difficulty is still low.
You cant be serious, mining on a pool is far better than solo mining unless you have over 2ghz of hash You waiting days for a block is not smart unless you have free power. |
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I am looking for some way to monitor my ETH miners.
Etherminer in Ubuntu does not show me either hashrate or temps on the gpu:s.
Is there any way to get this info shown in etherminer ?
Or is there some other way to monitor several rigs mining ETH.
Right now i just have the hashrate presented at the pool i am mining at.
I am a totally linux noob and i just started up my first linux miner ever yesterday.
Stupid questions irritate me god ! Ethminer is basically beta software of course there's no way to monitor hash rate Through it just be happy you got it to mine on the pool. To monitor the hash rate something totally custom would have to be written in Linux and node js or something to interface with geth, jeez get a clue Looks like somebody was real nice and build a monitoring and mining proxy with a front end https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/3503/ethereum-solo-mining-proxy-track-rigs-hashrateMake sure to donate when you get it running dont be a leech you sir are a turd nugget Lol ok |
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OMG Marvell there are just too many ppl like you to make the world a better place. Find your sanitary pads and come back when you feel better dude
And you're bumping this why ? I actually helped the idiot out which is more than i can say for most On this forum.. |
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Man I just seen this 20% difficulty jump Feb 6th I wonder if these rises are sustainable
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A 970 is more expensive than a 280 or 280x
Unless you already have the nvida hardware its best to buy AMD
There's the rub -- GTX may cost a bit more initially but will recoup some in electric cost over time, perhaps a long time depending on coin/exchange rate! GTX have held resale value a little better over time if that's a factor (not to me), and besides -- my box was always a gaming rig first, mining off-hours second, when profitable. I exchange coins fairly quickly, selling to the greater fool while they're still "worth" something.  Where I live it's best to buy AMD even if you already have Nvidia. Used quality 7970 sets you back 130-150€ (22-24MH), 290(X) 220-240€ (28-31MH), GTX 970 300-320€ (20-22MH). After tweaks power consumption is almost the same (~200W per card). For gaming 290(X) is a s fast as GTX 970. I'm paying 0.1€/ kWh and my nvidia rig is still more profitable hashing 110MH@1000W than 83MH@600W (lowest I can go with 5 x 970). What tweaks are you making, 290x pulls 260 plus watts on my end compared to the 220 watts on my 280x Miners . I agree with you on the 970s the entry price is too high given that I only plan on mining eth, by the time the 970 gets into the green homestead will be over and mining will be done by summers end |
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A 970 is more expensive than a 280 or 280x
Unless you already have the nvida hardware its best to buy AMD
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Next difficulty is going to be too painful!
People never learn, the last company that tried to do the home miners thing with the sp20 Sold out to corporate greed as well. That was the writing on the wall for me, I mean you know,that bitmain mines with the hardware they are selling you at the same time hows that a consumer driven philosophy? Its like the mining company selling shovel's and pickaxes while they mine the VERY same vein with jackhammers and drills what did you think was going to happen. You guys keep buying thier ill made Chinese hardware flooding with pockets with fiat and BTC while they constantly lower thier prices to eliminate competition but that's not what realm happens.... The companies they drive out of the consumer market have invested too much to just leave, so they form thier own mining datorhalls and conglomerates which of course will destroy the diff. I'm surprised you guys are surprised. I said from the moment these units started selling its a better bet to buy BTC and let the big dogs destroy the diff and themselves especially when halving hits them. Buy maybe 1 or two units from different vendors to help with heating lol that's all I would ever buy |
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I have extracted a solo miner showed resolve, but the server node seems to be ignored, that is, the balls from the miner with chunks.
LOL true. I'm sorry man, just knocked this out blindly without access to an actual AMD card. For now, some further testing by others have indicated there presently no need to worry about allocation problems in the near future. I wil have to verify for myself to be absolutely sure though. I'd could send you one of my 7950s if you want to pay for shipping i have a bunch laying around due to no motherboards to host them in. This dag problem is getting huge for my my 900mh/s farm is down to like 700mh/s The Dag problem is not a problem as it affect all the graphics cards. But I heard that it affects R9 380 less. I keep hearing this as well, but i don't think I've seen enough data to be sure about this yet, or the reason why the 380s aren't affected. Is it the difference in memory types or what? Also what kind of difference if any does the trashing have on the 380 vs 380X? Yes. We need more data to assess the situation. I am also interested in knowing the performance of 380 vs 380x. I have both the 380 and 380x 4G cards and the hash rate is pretty underwhelming 18mh/s vs 19.5 mh/s max it seems. They are both pretty power hungry too around 240 watts maybe 250 for the x. a 7950 gets close to 23 mhs/s for around the same power. One thing i do notice is the hash rate on the 380 and 380x has remained constant regardless of DAG size vs the drop in hash rate of the 7950s to around 22-21 mh/s not sure to make of all of this . I think the best bet right now is to get 390s and mix and match them with 380 so at least you get better relsae value on your GPU's vs the older cards unles you can get them really cheap. the problem with the 390 and 390x is the run crazy hot and consume close to 300 wats of power , thats even worse with a 290x I'm trying out various brands of 380x cards this week but form my estimation its not worth it to pay anthing more for the 380x at least for mining since it hashes only 5% higer than the 380 and uses more power basically a worthless card. |
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Its even worse than this , not only are you charging for software that could be worthless 6-10 months your outdated 7950 and 280x gpus on your site are pretty bad for mining Eth in the next few months with the rising DAG size. Right now a 280x only hashes at around 22mh/s down from 26 a few months ago and a 7950 like 18 mh/s
The cards to buy right now are 380 series cards or Nvida since they have more memory and bandwith to handle the larger dag for a lot longer time.
the 7900 series cards will be useless to mine Ethereum in about three months due to the amout of power/hash
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I have extracted a solo miner showed resolve, but the server node seems to be ignored, that is, the balls from the miner with chunks.
LOL true. I'm sorry man, just knocked this out blindly without access to an actual AMD card. For now, some further testing by others have indicated there presently no need to worry about allocation problems in the near future. I wil have to verify for myself to be absolutely sure though. I'd could send you one of my 7950s if you want to pay for shipping i have a bunch laying around due to no motherboards to host them in. This dag problem is getting huge for my my 900mh/s farm is down to like 700mh/s |
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i missed this, what is the algo of ethereum? it's something anti asic for now? we can expect an update in the future to maintain gpu relevant forever?
if this is how it will be i might give it a try for the tiem being, if it is also profitable, but soemthing is telling me that it is not
Ethereum PoW needs very fast GPU memory access. It is not about the memory bandwidth. So 280x works the same as 290x. yeah over time as the DAG getts bigger the GPU's hash slower and slower my 280xs were hasing at 26mh/s back in november now they are down to 22mhs I did find that my 380s do not suffer from this degradation , they hashed at 18mh/s back then are are the same now. So this might mean that newer 300 class GPU's have faster ram than the older GPUs' /shrug What are the voltage and frequency for your 280x and 380 cards? everything stock bro , i dont have time to babysit 30+ GPUs lol, the 280x are saphire vaporx , and the 380s and ASUS 4GB models all stock setting |
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i missed this, what is the algo of ethereum? it's something anti asic for now? we can expect an update in the future to maintain gpu relevant forever?
if this is how it will be i might give it a try for the tiem being, if it is also profitable, but soemthing is telling me that it is not
Ethereum PoW needs very fast GPU memory access. It is not about the memory bandwidth. So 280x works the same as 290x. yeah over time as the DAG getts bigger the GPU's hash slower and slower my 280xs were hasing at 26mh/s back in november now they are down to 22mhs I did find that my 380s do not suffer from this degradation , they hashed at 18mh/s back then are are the same now. So this might mean that newer 300 class GPU's have faster ram than the older GPUs' /shrug |
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sometime in future ALTs will be worth ... X2 X4 X16 ... btc the other question is how much will btc be rated over central banks  it is an LLP ... not a rat race The thing to think about is a coin that sits betewen BTC and the other trash alts say around 800mill or 1 billion dollars worth of cap is needed just like gold has silver etc. If ethereum continues to show promise , it could fill this void that both dodgecoin and lightcoin tried to fill, me for now i'm buying eth and mining it as well and buying BTC as usuall on the dips. |
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