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4501  Economy / Economics / Re: Building wealth it's not just one time Luck on: September 11, 2023, 09:55:28 AM
Yes that's right, I also quite agree with what you said, for the problem of getting rich by luck maybe it's only for brands that come from rich families and they just have to continue in the footsteps of their parents and I would say they are quite lucky. So it's true as you say anyone who builds their wealth from scratch is not a matter of luck, but they succeed because of their tireless hard work so they get their just reward which is success. Of course, actually in any case it is more difficult to maintain than to get, but in terms of building success, it cannot be said that it is easy to achieve it because there must be a lot of failures that they experience, and after success as I said above, you have succeeded does not mean you just sit down to enjoy it but you also have to be able to maintain your wealth, and most of them already know how to do it because they already have provisions from previous experiences when they were pioneering and it is very useful.

We can see those who suddenly become rich by winning big prizes, on average, their wealth will not last long because before they never did anything like learning in the process of getting it, and it is very different from people who get wealth from the results of their hard work, the point is that knowledge from the journey is very useful.
Different situations indeed which there are ones who are really that born on a family which does have that better financial or simply being rich kind of state on which those childrens or the ones that would be getting those inheritance would really be having no problem when it comes to the time that they would really be making out their own businesses or someone that would really be continuing their long time business built up by their parents or simply been established on which it is really that something that would really be giving out advantage compared to those who do build up from scratch.

We do know that every business or investment does need up capital and the rest would really be definitely be needing that hard work on which it would really be varying on each person
since not all would really be having this kind of characteristics and this is why they do really miss out or fail on reaching out their targets and goals because
of such behavior.

Yes it is like that and I say that means they are quite lucky, sometimes I also like to feel a little concerned about myself why I am not in the position like them, but honestly it might just be a shadow in my mind to enjoy the results of my parents' hard work and I just have to continue it. But to be honest, I don't want to be a cutter who only enjoys the fruits of my parents' hard work, if I were in their position, maybe in terms of capital it wouldn't be difficult because the finances are quite capable but maybe I would only borrow a little capital from my parents and I would run it myself or build a business from scratch myself without involving my parents. I was educated to be a person who is better at giving than asking, so even though my position is favorable by being in a rich family but maybe I won't be a coward, I want to feel what my parents felt in the process of getting their wealth, because it will be a lesson.

Yes, my words above are probably only for people who have a warrior spirit who have a strong desire to do it, with that being true, so everyone has their own character, you are very interested in what you see but other people may not even care about anything.

4502  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: September 11, 2023, 09:24:12 AM
Well that makes sense, if you do have a large enough capital there is nothing wrong if you want to divert that capital to other alternatives such as buying bitcoin in large quantities and getting a lot of profit in the future. According to some people maybe this is a very good alternative with large capital, I'm not saying this is a bad choice but don't let you come because of the huge profits that exist in bitcoin, or because you see many professionals who have benefited with large amounts. In my opinion the market is still the same and all markets, especially in bitcoin, also move very volatile and with this it could be in addition to large profits but you can also lose large amounts of money. it is very possible, so that means that large profits will always be followed by large risks too, whether it's in bitcoin or in any asset you think looks attractive.

But yes if you really like it then go ahead because there is no prohibition whatsoever that prevents you, but I hope you will remain firm with the plans that you have made carefully, and still always have good risk management so that your losses do not exceed the amount of your profits.

It's fine to trade or invest huge capital but you also have to make sure that you're willing to deal with the possible risks as you know that the volatility of the market is really unpredictable and even professional traders fail as well. You have to make sure that you could afford to lose the capital that you will be using because that's how trading and investing works.
Yes that's right because the point is back to each of us who run it, any investment that looks like very profitable but still everything is the same, I mean you need a lot of good plans and also as you said the most important risk management, because it's useless even though for example you really believe in the benefits but you don't have self-control or proper risk management such as always installing stop los and also take profit it's the same the end result might be worse than you imagine. Especially as I said before that the market moves very volatile and it is almost impossible for us to predict 100% accurately there, okay now you might be for but a few hours later your position could be reversed, and that's the real risk. So yes with good planning it will be able to balance our profits and losses, but well like generally they are definitely more likely to increase their profits than losses in the way they can. I hope you succeed there, and do it consistently.



However, if you seek assurance, you could pick Bitcoin but it will take a long run before you make a huge amount of profit out of your capital. It will surely be challenging and it really need patient but what important is you're willing to take the risks and you are knowledgeable about how trading and investing works.

Well this is the main point, if you have a large capital and choose to allocate your capital for bitcoin investment compared to trading as in general it may be true that it will take a long time until you can get a big profit in the future, and the point is whether you can wait patiently or not. On the other hand, in my opinion, patience is not only needed to wait for profits from bitcoin but maybe other types of investments are the same,
if you have full patience and are also based on good planning then surely the results can also be in accordance with expectations.
4503  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading not for everyone! on: September 10, 2023, 05:58:03 PM
If we have a good capital, we can earn a good profits from the market even though we don't know how to trade. The are companies that trade for people if we know the genuine because there are many fake trading companies that can promise heaven and earth and still do away with our money. Capital is one of the things that help a trader to earn more from the market especially if our Capital is huge.
 Those who trade with bigger Capital tend to make big profits from the market if they are always profitable but if luck could not jam them then loses can be incurred.
I think if we are talking about large capitals, then it is no longer about trading, but about investing. If I have enough money that I can be financially independent, then I will not waste time on trading, I will just buy bitcoins and wait for the bull market and think that the profit I will make will be quite large, compared to what I I could make money in trading and at the same time I didn’t waste my time on trading, I just did what I liked. This is the advantage of large capital.

Well that makes sense, if you do have a large enough capital there is nothing wrong if you want to divert that capital to other alternatives such as buying bitcoin in large quantities and getting a lot of profit in the future. According to some people maybe this is a very good alternative with large capital, I'm not saying this is a bad choice but don't let you come because of the huge profits that exist in bitcoin, or because you see many professionals who have benefited with large amounts. In my opinion the market is still the same and all markets, especially in bitcoin, also move very volatile and with this it could be in addition to large profits but you can also lose large amounts of money. it is very possible, so that means that large profits will always be followed by large risks too, whether it's in bitcoin or in any asset you think looks attractive.

But yes if you really like it then go ahead because there is no prohibition whatsoever that prevents you, but I hope you will remain firm with the plans that you have made carefully, and still always have good risk management so that your losses do not exceed the amount of your profits.
4504  Economy / Economics / Re: Building wealth it's not just one time Luck on: September 10, 2023, 05:35:38 PM
Building wealth is not just about luck it takes hard work earn enough money to meet your basic needs leaving some for savings. Managing costs so you can maximize your savings investing money in a variety of different assets so that it is properly diversified over a long period of time. Wealth can help us provide and share resources emotional and financial with those we care about. When we help others get the education and opportunities they need to succeed no matter how we want to support them we can share in the joy of their progress. Cautious and not reckless to take risks cautious risk takers do their homework apply skills and knowledge to take risks before launching new ideas and initiatives into a business everything is possible if you keep the goal in mind.

For the majority of those who became rich and build a generational wealth, yeah there's no luck involved in it. They really work their ass off to reach that level that they are not going to be poor for the rest of their life including their grandchildren. Only a few percentage might have gotten their wealth as inheritance but still though they will also have to work very hard to maintain their wealth and then pass it from generations to generations. And so it's just a one time opportunity for them, but they have taken the risk and so they prevail that's why they become so wealthy throughout their natural life. For the majority, it's not that late though, maybe we can strived for the best at least for our children's future.

Yes that's right, I also quite agree with what you said, for the problem of getting rich by luck maybe it's only for brands that come from rich families and they just have to continue in the footsteps of their parents and I would say they are quite lucky. So it's true as you say anyone who builds their wealth from scratch is not a matter of luck, but they succeed because of their tireless hard work so they get their just reward which is success. Of course, actually in any case it is more difficult to maintain than to get, but in terms of building success, it cannot be said that it is easy to achieve it because there must be a lot of failures that they experience, and after success as I said above, you have succeeded does not mean you just sit down to enjoy it but you also have to be able to maintain your wealth, and most of them already know how to do it because they already have provisions from previous experiences when they were pioneering and it is very useful.

We can see those who suddenly become rich by winning big prizes, on average, their wealth will not last long because before they never did anything like learning in the process of getting it, and it is very different from people who get wealth from the results of their hard work, the point is that knowledge from the journey is very useful.
4505  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Behaviours of gamblers you dislike. on: September 10, 2023, 04:51:14 PM
- Gamblers that keeps saying he is a loser even when I believe that he already winning and taking the money inside his pocket.
- Gamblers that keeps asking for TIPS from the player that wins or winning.

 Gamblers that spend all his money to lose, but trying to borrow from co gambler and never paid any amount.

those are what i hate actually .
I hate the second and third points that you've mentioned. I usually see people who have failed in gambling themselves keep tickling those who are winning to provide them with tips and tricks or strategies that they can use to win as well, and I don't understand why people think that they can win just after getting some tips from another gambler when the other gambler himself is winning just because he is lucky and not for any other reason.

And, I also hate people who borrow money from others by making excuses that they will use it on other things but then they use that money in gambling and once they lose that money, they forget about it like they never borrowed it and when confronted, they behave like they got offended from it.

Well I agree with this, it sounds like a lot of noise to the ears, especially those who are always unlucky when gambling and then always come to ask for donations from winning gamblers, especially if they are forced to ask for tips. Honestly, I don't like that kind of nature, because basically if maybe the partner wins, they will also share their winnings a little for others, and you don't need to ask even with some coercion. And yes as you said besides asking for tips they also ask for some ways to be able to win, I once gave one of the ways but still it didn't work when they did, and right with this alone we can already know that any strategy will be useless except luck.

Well and maybe most people will also hate people like that, it's just their nonsense, you don't easily believe in anything and just an excuse so that you can provide loans for them. Honestly, I'm weird about people who go overboard just to win, if you've already lost then don't continue because it will only make things worse. I understand there are temptations from emotions that fill your brain so you are desperate to borrow money from others even though you also don't know how to repay it, and yes it's true as you said when we collect the debt they are like people who don't know anything, it's ridiculous. So I hope you're more realistic about gambling, it's just about luck man nothing more than that, and you don't have to borrow money.

4506  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling should be play with care on: September 10, 2023, 04:23:25 PM
Both in gambling and in cryptocurrency trading or forex trading there is two levels of emotions and excitement or sadness that makes people to lose money. One aspect is when you are having a very good win streak, you will want to continue on to gamble in order to continue winning. This does not necessarily end well every time. Another is when you are losing and always and the losing streak you will want to chase your losses in order to have a win the does not also end well. So, whenever you are winning or losing you should also have control and be careful of what you do.
There should be control in gambling if you can't control your emotions success is not possible there is no guarantee that there will always be a win here. Before trying to win at an online casino it's essential to do your research so you know what you're getting into Without this knowledge, chances are high that you won't just lose the money you gamble with experienced players who use small bets to win big. In some their luck is on their side and in other cases they know how to work the system they understand how to take small bets and eventually win big.

Yes and that's the main point, you can win and sometimes you can easily get it, but the most important thing here is to remember that losing will also happen more often. So that's right like you said, there must still be control or limits that must be applied in your bets, the point is not to be too ambitious and be more realistic in thinking, in my opinion it is impossible for the casino to give you a win for free, in fact there must be something you sacrifice first there and after that on average they will only be able to get a win even though it may not match what has been sacrificed. Yes I also think like that, can a casino give you a guaranteed win? obviously not, if it can it might just be your ridiculous assumption.

Yes it is clear, they (casinos) create more for them not for gamblers, and for gamblers maybe only a few percent, the rest of the casino itself will continue to profit. So the point is to be more realistic in thinking, as you said do research first and understand, if you already understand, you will definitely not overdo it because you know the real risks there. That's all I think if you want to stay okay there and really it's just about luck guys.
4507  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How will you feel if it happens to you just like this? on: September 10, 2023, 03:53:21 PM
People like those (me) who don't gamble for fun have this question to answer: how will you feel when you don't have money to stake a game that you predicted and better winning games you predicted played the way you predicted it and when you checked the winning was something that could have changed your life for ever if you didn't gambled again after such winning?

This question can be very tough to answer, but believe me, many people won't stop thinking of that if it happened to them, so I want to know your opinion about how you would feel if it happened to you.

You might have predicted it correctly but there are no guarantees in the first place and so risks are still there even if you're positive that your team or fighter that you wanted to wager on got a huge chance. Of course, we cannot stop thinking about it especially if it turns out that our prediction was spot on, that is normal, but we are just giving ourselves a hard time because what's done is done and we cannot make something out of it as we don't have any money to wager to begin with.

Apart from thinking about it, why don't we think about the opposite one? Because even if we're confident, there are no guarantees that our bets will make it and so let's just leave it that way and think that it could've been a good way as we might've lost the money.

Yes, it may go well according to your plan, you may be confident in the decisions you make, but it's true that things don't always go the way you want them to. Sometimes the final answer can be more than expected or even the opposite is very bad, so for any gambling it may be clear that the risk of losing will continue to dominate us, and well it is also very involved with your luck there. As you said above it's true my friend, we can try to analyze but the rest is difficult to be on target, and it's better to just cash out, even though you may be very confident but it will come back again no one knows what will happen on the field or for the final result of the match. So don't overdo it, because it's like you're creating problems for yourself.

Yes that's right, sometimes they come only for profit or victory, but rarely even think about the opposite, namely the risk, every victory behind it there must always be an even greater risk, it is absolutely not guaranteed to succeed there. Honestly, I think don't overdo it, do it the way you want to do it, you have to come prepared to experience everything and with that maybe you won't get emotional even if the end is far from expectations.
4508  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: September 10, 2023, 02:46:15 PM
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Art contest is only part of their marketing but they run many types of contest last four years and they continue doing this. They do see good effects from their marketing to make it very sustainable marketing strategy.

That's right, when they see a good opportunity they don't miss it and this art contest is one of the things that seems to have a good impact on them so they continue to do art contest contests as we see today.
Marketing can be done in many different ways and this is one of them in the form that they have done to date.
They already have a very good reputation as one of the casino organizers, and in this forum they are already widely known as one of the trusted casinos that provide good service to its users. And as we know that many users are looking for casinos that are trusted.
4509  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 10, 2023, 02:15:56 PM

We all know that one of the problems experienced by Manchester United is their fragile defense. They improved when they had a new duo, but the fact that they haven't performed consistently every game is a problem too. Now before the league starts and Onana joins the club it's a breath of fresh air for them, and Onana's arrival is also a situation where they have to lose De Gea who I think is still performing quite well.
Now is he (the goalkeeper) to blame when many concede but with a fragile defense? if many blame him I think it is unfair.
Even though Man United is having a bad performance at the moment and they have suffered a lot of goals so far but I think it would be unfair to blame Onana for causing all of that because no matter how good a goalkeeper is, if the defense line performs poorly, then it will be difficult for goalkeeper to get a clean sheet. A defeat will always be a shared responsibility.
It's not appropriate to blame just one player when others are not playing as expected. We have to look at this as a whole and openly judge the performance of players. Just as De Gea conceded a lot when he was here, their defense is fragile and even more annoying when the same players make the same mistakes in defense.
Actually, many clubs have experienced this MU-like, and I rarely hear a goalkeeper being a scapegoat. Except for the time Liverpool experienced in the Champions League match. It was indeed seen that their goalkeeper made a fatal mistake so that Real Madrid beat them at that time.
4510  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2026 :Canada/Mexico/United States: Discussion Thread on: September 10, 2023, 12:59:14 PM
I think a little when what Germany has experienced lately, the article from 5 matches they suffered 4 defeats and 1 draw, and most recently they had to recognize the superiority of Japan with a score of 4-1. Germany is one of the countries that are highly considered in the World Cup, and they managed to become champions in 2014, but after that their performance continued to decline, one of the causes is that their players who are always a mainstay are no longer in the squad and their regeneration players do not seem to be fully ready to be the successor to success in 2014 ago.
What do you think of them in the upcoming World Cup?
4511  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 10, 2023, 12:44:02 PM
Juventus are in good shape and they will play at home in this match, it will be an advantage for them because playing in front of their own supporters can increase their confidence. Lazio did beat Napoli in their last match, in week 3, but in the first 2 matches they were also not good with 2 defeats. Juventus' defense is also much better this season than before, it can make it difficult for Lazio to dismantle their defense, and it looks like betting on Juventus will bring victory. I will give it a try.
With the capital of playing at home, I think that will be enough for Juventus to win against Lazio later. However, despite this, Lazio achieved their previous victory after beating hosts Napoli. So I think Juventus still has to be wary of Lazio's movements. On the other hand, we can see that currently Juventus is on fire and has managed to collect 7 points on the standings and they will be closer to overthrowing the Milan duo if they succeed in beating Lazio. The bet for Juventus to win is quite good, but I will just take the result over 2 goals with odds @1.55 and at least I don't have to worry if the prediction goes the other way.
Of course Juventus must be very vigilant about the potential opponents they will face, not only Lazio but also the other clubs that will face them. If a club tries to underestimate its opponent then be prepared for the nightmare they will experience in this match, not apart from one club but this applies to all clubs in football.
I will not deny a surprise by Lazio too, as in the previous match with minimal opportunities they can still give defeat to the host Napoli. Yes from there they have the opportunity to do the same.



The match between Juventus and Lazio shouldn't be what is hard to predict by anyone, Juventus is better in form than Lazio and will have a very good play and result against them. Lazio seems not in form at present, they've been beaten twice this season, and no wonder their odds are very low compared to that of Juventus. Not to mention the fact that Juventus have the home advantage with a good squad in place. Nonetheless, I will not praise them too much, they disappointed me when they played with Bologna, it was tough on them and they narrowly equalise if not for Dusan Vlahovic.
Realistically, given their form, it shouldn't be difficult to predict, but we should also consider the unexpected, because this is football where surprises are possible. We can learn from their match against Napoli, I think there will be many people who champion Napoli in that match and indeed Napoli's game is better than Lazio, but in reality Napoli must recognize Lazio's victory.
4512  Economy / Gambling / Re: Duelbits.com | Casino & Sportsbook | VIP | Instant withdrawals!|ARGENTINA & AVFC on: September 10, 2023, 12:26:33 PM
We have our own free choice and free will , if we dont wanna deal with KYC then dont play with it simple as that , I don't know why does others making it complicated when the site is not forcing them to play with them?
they should respect the rules or play no more.
On the other perspective, casinos are a business and they have owners and those owners have their own free will as well. So while we do have the right to play somewhere with KYC or not play there if we do not want to, it's all our own decision, these casinos also have an option to either follow the rules and have KYC if they want to or they may disagree and not have KYC if they do not want to.

We just have to accept their decision, it's their casino and they can do whatever they want with it and that should be the only important part of it. Without that, we are not going to end up with anything shocking like people pressuring a casino into removing KYC, that's not right and should not be happening at the moment.
Many gamblers simply do not take the time to read the TOS of the casino in which they play, they simply assume that whatever they think should be the right policies are what all casinos will follow, and obviously this is not true.

If gamblers did actually take the time to read the TOS, and they found out they will face KYC policies on specific circumstances then they can take an informed decision about whether to play or not at that casino, and if a casino claimed they will not ask for KYC on their TOS and then they did so anyway then you can have a legitimate claim against that casino as they are promoting their services in a deceiving manner.
Now this is what every gambler should pay attention to, they need to read the Terms and Conditions of each casino, and of course each casino will have different Terms and Conditions for this. We cannot draw conclusions that all casinos have the same Terms and Conditions. Indeed, maybe in some ways there are similarities, but not all. Especially if we get into the discussion about KYC, I believe that some gamblers may not be ready for this policy, but if we want to continue playing in a situation that applies policies like this, we as users must also follow it. And if you are not willing then look for one that does not implement this policy.
4513  Economy / Gambling / Re: Roobet.com | Crypto’s Fastest Growing Casino 🦘 on: September 10, 2023, 12:11:14 PM
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I believe that behind Roobet's success is definitely because their marketing team works well, not only holding art contests, signature campaigns on this forum and also giveaways on social media but there are always lots of prizes given which enable interested users to gamble on this site. Moreover, all user problems and complaints are always handled well, I consider it a trusted site.

Roobet is a casino site that has a good reputation in this forum, so it's not surprising that their site is growing quickly because behind them, apart from having a great team, there is also a marketing team that works to get traffic for this site, I think we all know that most people on this forum have already put their trust in this site, so we all should not be surprised by their achievements.  Grin
Yes I agree with you, that they have a marketing team that works effectively to gain trust and many users who eventually make Roobet their choice. Always innovating, that's what makes them stand out, especially in the contests that they consistently do, namely art contests.
Not many sites have breakthroughs such as holding contests like this, and interestingly they do it consistently too, every time there is a big event they don't forget to invite users, especially those on this forum to take part in the contests they organize.
4514  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 10, 2023, 11:55:42 AM
What a horrible start for Onana, to think he was one of the best goalkeepers in Europe last year.

The hype is what has gotten you disappointed so far. Before he moved to Manchester United, there was plenty hype with the news, but what do the fans really want? for him not to concede even with Manchester Uniteds.poor defence? he is not super man. Onana is just a good keeper with extra passing ability which sometimes becomes a problem also for him, a little wrong decision making in his position which is always a critical one can put his team behind.
The hype was just too much on Onana when he was about to be signed, seeing him concede goals in almost every match played by Manchester United is discouraging, the only match in which he didn't concede any goal was against Wolves, which was their first match. But I don't really blame the goalkeeper, if a club's defense is poor, no matter how good a goalkeeper is, he will be conceding. If Manchester's defense is stronger, I am sure he will be conceding less in matches. Onana is a very good and talented goalkeeper. If Manchester United can work on their defense, then I am sure Onana will be able to perform better for them. I don't see any reason why he should be blamed currently.

That's the thing, the last one to be blamed here for the bad results that Manchester United had so far is the goalkeeper. They have some serious problems with their defense and I am not sure whether this will be solved quickly by Ten Haag. They have had these issues for quite some time now and all the results they had so far were not because of bad luck. It was because their team didn't work well enough for their defense. I think that this year will be even harder for them to finish top four.
We all know that one of the problems experienced by Manchester United is their fragile defense. They improved when they had a new duo, but the fact that they haven't performed consistently every game is a problem too. Now before the league starts and Onana joins the club it's a breath of fresh air for them, and Onana's arrival is also a situation where they have to lose De Gea who I think is still performing quite well.
Now is he (the goalkeeper) to blame when many concede but with a fragile defense? if many blame him I think it is unfair.
4515  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 10, 2023, 11:40:19 AM
I think Real Madrid has enough experience when we are talking about players trying to negotiate better deals constantly.

But from a general perspective I think it is sad that a player like Mbappe does not play for a club like Real Madrid. We as fans would enjoy to see him playing for them. It's a waste right now. Imagine Haaland would play in Saudi Arabia. We would be shocked. PSG is not that bad, but it is still an inferior league where a talent like Mbappe is wasting his time. But yes, he is rich for sure. Cheesy
I don't know why I really believe that one day Mbappe will play for the Real Madrid team, the best player in the world will play for the best team in the world, we just need to wait for the time, Mbappe is still very young and his time will still be very long.
And this season the Real Madrid team is really not looking for a star striker to replace the position left by Benzem, they really seem to be waiting for Mbappe.
I also have the same thoughts as you about Mbappe, which is that one day he will definitely wear a Real Madrid shirt, and maybe it will happen next season.
I haven't really followed Mbappe's progress with Paris Saint Germain lately, but from the last news I heard, Paris Saint Germain and Mbappe agreed to extend his contract, but in the contract there are also rumors that Paris Saint Germain will still sell Mbappe, and I think that's an agreement that both parties will benefit from.
Previously, Mbappe insisted on not extending his contract and wanted to leave quickly when his contract expired, now from there I speculate that Real Madrid is his next destination. and from the transfer movement Real Madrid is not too active and again I speculate to prepare to redeem Mbappe from PSG.
4516  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 10, 2023, 11:25:11 AM

I understand that a club is only as strong as their finances, and one of the ways they can do this is by making a profit from the sale of their talented players. But in the midst of that can they not balance again between business and achievement? I think they can, and their pattern must be changed, that's all. If we look at every season there will be new players who stand out at this club, and in the following season they will sell them. Keeping it 2 or 3 seasons I think it can be done, especially they are good at finding talented players.
The amount of a team financial budget really influences its strength because with a large budget can recruit great players and have the potential to bring the team closer to the championship trophy but to make large amounts of money doesn't mean you have to sell talented players because if you do this every season then it won't the strength and success that are obtained are instead losses and failures in being able to achieve success by getting the championship trophy.
What is difficult is not about finding talented players but making these players feel comfortable and play competitively with a combination of playing with teammates because not all players can adapt well to create brilliant games.
After all creating talented players is not an easy thing to do.
And that's the point I was making earlier. Maybe now they can freely with their ability to create a lot of young talents every season. And they have to think about where they don't quickly find those talented players every season. I wouldn't say that they're lucky that they can always get great young players, because that's one of their abilities. However, at the same time they have to think that in one season they don't easily get a player who then becomes a great player and there's a financial benefit in that. That would obviously be a setback for their overall performance.

And I think it's a ticking time bomb for themselves, because when they experience something that I said above then something bad is not impossible to happen to them.



True, we can't complain about what Borussia Dortmund are doing, but I just regret the great potential they have. Football is going to be very closely related to business anyway, and I don't deny that.
But I think that, if they can do better not only in the Bundesliga but in the Champions League, I think new big sponsors will come and that they can also take advantage of. That's also something they can do.
That is Dortmund mistake why until now they have had difficulty winning the Bundesliga and getting the Champions League title because they always sell several players who they feel can make big profits which can indeed increase profits for the team budget but also reduce the portion of power for Dortmund itself.
If actions like this continue to occur just for the business of making money it will increasingly close the possibility that Dortmund can become one of the teams that succeeds in winning the League in the future.
and I'm someone who believes in prioritizing, and from the gestures they make it doesn't show that their top priority is achievement, but business is their priority. Once I say that I don't have a problem with their business, but they should be more able to balance between business and achievement. And I think that's something that they can do as long as they want to do it. And what's happening now is that they're kind of putting aside achievement.

4517  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 10, 2023, 09:46:36 AM
Juventus are far better than the previous season for now. They were dealing with some other problems on one hand and this affected them really deeply later. But now it seems like they are concentrated on their game. They have collected 7 points in 3 games so far which is pretty decent.

However they have a pretty tough game next time which is against Lazio. But the game is in Turin which can be a good advantage. I know how Lazio beat Napoli away recently. But when it comes to Juventus' home games against Lazio I see that Lazio can't beat them in the league since 2017. I think Juventus can maintain this unbeaten streak. I expect a win by one goal gap.
Juventus are in good shape and they will play at home in this match, it will be an advantage for them because playing in front of their own supporters can increase their confidence. Lazio did beat Napoli in their last match, in week 3, but in the first 2 matches they were also not good with 2 defeats. Juventus' defense is also much better this season than before, it can make it difficult for Lazio to dismantle their defense, and it looks like betting on Juventus will bring victory. I will give it a try.
4518  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: September 10, 2023, 09:31:44 AM
Currently, League 1 cannot be said to be competitive because there are so many clubs that are still in an unstable state and we can see from the standings statistical data that there are many clubs that are not yet stable in every match, even Paris SG can also be said to be still in an unstable state. can be consistent for several of these matches and when compared to other leagues such as Serie A, Bundesliga and Premier League 1 for the time being it cannot be a competitive competition.
If we say that Paris SG still has a chance to hold the League 1 title, I will admit that it is true, but I can't necessarily give a guarantee because as I said at the beginning, there are still many clubs that are not yet stable in the last few matches.
No, what I understand from the context of what was said previously is that Ligue 1 is a very competitive league, and if we look at it now and you say that currently there has not been a stable game between one team and another, maybe I agree with that.
I don't see Ligue 1 being a competitive league because there is such a big difference in just one club, and I already said that above. It is difficult for other clubs to make them at least equal to PSG, which we know has advantages financially and in terms of the players they have.


Oh yes, Mbappe is again one of the players who lifted Psg's performance after they declined a little and now he has scored 5 goals and is the temporary leader of top scorers in the league.
4519  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 10, 2023, 09:09:18 AM
The fact is that a club like Copenhagen can't progress to knockout stages in a group that consists of Bayern Munich Manchester and Galatasaray. That being said, I strongly believe that Galatasaray might be joining Bayern Munich to the knockout stages of this season's UEFA Champions League competition if Manchester doesn't  take their games very serious.
The Turkish club has been in fine forms since the start of the season and are expected to continue their brilliant performances in the UEFA Champions League. So apart from Bayern Munich who's squad in the group is the most intimidating, any other team can progress alongside the German champions
Without any doubt one of the easiest groups for the leaders Bayern Munich which is having strong enough attack and their defense is also improving which will not allow anyone from this group to give them tough time with Copenhagen could be going early, and we will have tough time between Manchester United and Galatasaray which team will be able to won at home with better difference could be on advantage and beating Copenhagen and having good resistance against Leaders Bayern Munich all will be counted, and I have feeling this season is not going to be easy for the English giants which are having many issues which are not easy to settle in near future but hopefully if the able then surely things could be into their way for the better results.
Bayern Munich have the upper hand in that group, and indeed I think we can all agree that they are the most likely club to make it to the knockout stages, if they can perform to expectations and there are no surprises in store for the other challengers in that group. Manchester United are likely to be the second club to accompany Bayern Munich, but their journey will not be as easy as imagined, especially if their consistency is still very questionable.
I'm also looking forward to seeing which clubs will go to the Europa League, as last season the big clubs went there in droves.
Maybe one of the big clubs that will go there is from group F, because that is the strongest group at the moment.
4520  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 10, 2023, 08:52:43 AM
If only they had reduced the number of sales of their quality players and kept more within the club to achieve, I'm sure they would have achieved something impressive by now and maybe they could have won the Champions League for the second time. But that's them, business is business, if there is a player who has the potential to bring in a lot of money they will not hesitate to let him go, even if that player is a very scary specter and has contributed a lot to them while in the squad.
And yes that's Drotmund with all its business. Lol
For Dortmund in a season not selling one or more talented players is like feeling that something is missing and they will do that continuously. It has become a tradition for Dortmund to release talented players and it is not surprising that in the end they have only been a business club for more than a decade. It seems that Dortmund's owner doesn't mind this either and what is important is how this team can survive in the competition with stable finances. I think we will still see this tradition for a very long time and again for them the title is not that important as long as they can make a lot of money from selling their players.
I understand that a club is only as strong as their finances, and one of the ways they can do this is by making a profit from the sale of their talented players. But in the midst of that can they not balance again between business and achievement? I think they can, and their pattern must be changed, that's all. If we look at every season there will be new players who stand out at this club, and in the following season they will sell them. Keeping it 2 or 3 seasons I think it can be done, especially they are good at finding talented players.



We can't complain about this in Dortmund because that's how their business works in Dortmund and that's how they make money. Dortmund usually invests in younger talents and grows these players after a few seasons they will sell these players to other top teams for much more money, however, I think there are many other players who were playing for Dortmund and then Bayern Munich bought them for more money.

True, we can't complain about what Borussia Dortmund are doing, but I just regret the great potential they have. Football is going to be very closely related to business anyway, and I don't deny that.
But I think that, if they can do better not only in the Bundesliga but in the Champions League, I think new big sponsors will come and that they can also take advantage of. That's also something they can do.
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