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4521  Economy / Gambling / Re: justbit.io asks for KYC (their site say NO KYC) then confiscates my winnings on: April 18, 2023, 10:53:43 PM
What was the latest update of this topic? does the OP managed to submit his KYC or did he get his winnings? All gambling sites have a reason why they should hold or confiscate the winnings and if they don't give a valid reason then they just destroy their reputation.
The ops have not updated the thread for a while now, and with recent discovery about the casino KYC rule, it shows that they have it covered in the casino terms and conditions that KYC is mandatory for the first withdrawal of any amount, which is strange anyways since most KYC casinos allow players to withdraw small amount without the need for KYC unless the amount exceeds the limited set amount, most casinos set $5,000+ as their baseline for KYC verification process.
4522  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: April 18, 2023, 10:33:42 PM


Overall they do still share on the same intent or plan which is to hook up players on a certain site that they are promoting.
Thanks for sharing that link More read up on the terms,  and just like I said earlier, I was not familiar with both words and I was confused both meant that the individuals involved must be a customer of the casino and have to share some links for that purpose if they must link those he introduced to his profile for Payment.

But from the last paragraph can see that the affiliate marketer must not necessarily be a player in the casino to end their income since they are being paid a fixed fee for their services.
4523  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: April 18, 2023, 10:27:39 PM

We are all starting on being inexperienced which means that those are initial reactions that we would definitely be able to encounter or would be felt off on the time when we are losing specially into those start up days.
It would really be just that a normal approach or reaction but on the time that you would really be having the experience then handling out various situations wont really be something that would be making you impulsive.
Since you do have already the idea on whats going on then you would really be acting according on what it should really be done or on how to handle it out.This is why we should bare up in mind
that no matter how low or small the odds is. there's always a chance on hitting it up, this is why it never been recommendable on making some all in the type of bet.
The major big lesson from this gambler's incident is never to stake too. Purchased on our confidence in a club since we can't be certain of what we will meet at the end of the game and also not to be too greedy for winning because the ops displayed some element of greed in his approach.

Most and all of us here have learned a lot of lessons even from others' comments here you can see that some of the comments are based on the many lessons from these signaller's events.
4524  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: April 18, 2023, 10:16:32 PM

The situation is getting chaotic, it looks like Chelsea will be very difficult to get out of this bad period. Lampard's presence did not affect the team at all. It's like it's hard to find a standard that matches Chelsea players. This season seems to be the last for the Blues to taste the Champions League competition. And if you don't immediately find the right coach, it seems it will be very difficult for Chelsea to be able to return to Europe's most elite competition.
Once again Chelsea has failed to prove themselves tonight and haven't conceded 2 goals to any tonight, this is not a good sign for Chelsea's future sustainability as the club may slide into possible relegation if the current condition continues, and I am sure this present situation may get worst in the coming season.

Since Chelsea has lost all possible bases to recover and there is the possibility that their current coach will soon get a sack threat from the club owners since thos have been their standard of operation since this season begin some months ago.
4525  Economy / Speculation / Re: will bitcoin continue to rise on: April 18, 2023, 10:11:44 PM

better late than never, that's a good sentence, people are doubtful about the potential increase in bitcoin price (that's natural considering bitcoin price is very volatile) but can that continue to be used as a reason to be afraid to buy bitcoin?

pessimistic people will continue to have reasons not to buy bitcoin, for example, when the bitcoin price is $ 17k they ask and worry that the bitcoin price will continue to fall and when the bitcoin price hits $ 30k they ask again and are afraid whether the bitcoin price has the potential to continue to rise or even down. actually, I'm tired of giving answers to questions like this but it keeps popping up and bothering me lol.
Yeah, it is better late than never and what I have learned from Bitcoin accumulation is that whatever time you have the resources that you can spare for a while mostly for the long-term base.

Most people complainedined that Bitcoin is too expensive for them to buy at the moment and failed to make use of the opportunity when it presented itself when Bitcoin touched its discounted price on multiple occasions.
4526  Local / Nigeria (Naija) / Re: Lazerpay, a crypto and web3 company closing down on: April 18, 2023, 09:42:15 PM
Lazerpay nor be crypto exchange, them just dey accept crypto as means of payment for their services. Charles-Tim I watch the interview with Lazerpay founder about two years ago where him dey talk about how much them raise as funds to startup e talk say na over $200k, Wetin happen to the money in such a short time? Na mismanagement make the company dey close so abi wetin? All this tech companies way young people be founder no dey last, them never strong their mind to face challenges of entrepreneurship.
I think waiten really be the problem with young startups in Africa and Nigeria in particular na the inability to face market challenges and the lack of prior actions to make their fit fem on the business ground before wanting to live their dream life, some of them a leave lavish lifestyle instead of continually working to improve their platforms to meet current and future demands.

For Lazerpay to have started with an initial capital of $200,000 here in Nigeria and the company already folded up after 2 year shows how unprepared and mismanaged the core team have been during this period of their operation in the Nigeria e-commerce sector, for the fact that the company accept cryptocurrency for their services should have been the primary reason why the company should have been more successful even if they're not operating a cryptocurrency exchange.

The CEO have a lot of explanation to do and if the proper audit of the company account is done there could be some possible indictment against the company by investors.
4527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Referral bonuses are waste of time on: April 18, 2023, 09:31:32 PM
It`s been said often enough, just to make sure, I will repeat it - referral programs aren`t the same as affiliate programs, even though many people mix it up. Wink Even operators sometimes fail to realize that there is a difference. Wink

Anyway, are you guys aware of the fact there even are gambling affiliates that are listed on stock exchanges? Smiley Money can be made...  Wink
I quite agree with you on this, referral program is different from affiliate marketing but in practices both at inseparable since the primary aim of both programs in to attract players to the casino and those involved getting paid to do so.

But I will also love it if you can take out time to explain in detail what both referral and affiliate means in your own understanding. I will love to read your comment on this because I believe you have a better understanding of these terms more than many of us here.
4528  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Researching the Early Days of Bitcoin on: April 18, 2023, 09:13:34 PM
Hello,

I am currently helping with an in-depth research project looking into the early days of Bitcoin (2008-2011).  The people involved and the interesting stories that happened to get us to where we are today.

Can anyone recommend any good sources of information or people who are experts to speak to?

Many thanks!
Just as recommended you can get all that you want from this board since you looking foe were to get the best achievement of early developers and the Bitcoin early journey till the present time, I am sure if you press hard to make extra efforts outside this forum, I am sure you will find a handful of information and data that will support the success of your research.

You may not be able to meet the early Bitcoin developers one-on-one but you can easily find whatever information you will need on the internet with the right search tools.
4529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is improving I guess? on: April 18, 2023, 07:34:17 PM
We are more likely to experience better end of the year, as of last two weeks Bitcoin was $23,000 but I can see some impressive changes hopefully the ends or mid of the year will make significant changes in price. Though am not excited much because  even if it pumps I might not enjoy the fat price, I bought when the price is high but now you will pity my wallet. Anyway we're sure of better 2023.
Ops I expected to to have return back to update the thread with the current state of things with Bitcoin,  as a lot have changed lately and I must say we are in for more surprises from Bitcoin in thos years 2023, this is the most fun time because of how Bitcoin struggle all through the year 2022 with all the market crisis that impeded a lot on the price movement pf Bitcoin in an uptrend directions.

To be honest with you, I am too positive that this year 2023 will bring along with it a lot of market differences for Bitcoin and that will be in the most positive dimension that will trigger other asset price. Even if the fed or sec come up with their planned anti crypto regulations it wouldn't delay Bitcoin in 1/bit.
4530  Economy / Gambling / Re: Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds! on: April 18, 2023, 07:28:58 PM

In gambling you always can lose. It is possible that this gambler has a strategy with lots of big bets with small odds. But even in such strategy he has tp remember that it is possible to lose. In such situation it can be a lesson for us - what is money management. But the same time it is possible that it is all his money and he decided that he has found a way to get easy money. Thus, he received a lesson that he no longer needs.
One quality a gambler should develop is the ability to embrace losses with a good mindset because this will result in how the gambler act after that some gamblers have failed to properly manage their losses and that can affect their general well-being since some due to their inability to handle lose have resulted into addiction because of excessive chasing of loses which lead them into addiction.

But then if a gambler have a better understanding and the background knowledge of how to handle losses it will be easier for them to handle such losses when they occur.
4531  Economy / Economics / Re: Should you save, when you are wealthy? on: April 18, 2023, 07:18:28 PM
The speed of converting what you save into money generates for you what makes you rich. Saving alone without financial knowledge is not enough, especially if you are from a country with a government that does not manage financial policies well, which will cause excessive inflation and an increase in real estate prices that invest a dangerous thing.

  • If you have a commercial background, with a little risk, you can make a quick profit.
  • Bitcoin is one of the shortest paths if you are planning a long-term investment for more than 10 years.

I agree with you Bitcoin is the truly the shortest and less inflated route to becoming financially successful in the short term and both long term just as you rightly said take Bitcoin as a sole investment and in the next 10/years from now you will be in a financial state that only you can understand but to others is maybe extraordinary.

Take those who lay down a few bucks 10 years ago, they are currently in a free financial state right now, with the number of gains they have made from that little investment,  inflation could affect any other class of investment,  but Bitcoin will remain an edge over such inflation.
4532  Economy / Gambling / Re: Enough to consider a casino scam? on: April 18, 2023, 01:56:15 PM
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What do you expect from someone who is promoting a known scam casino, definitely he will support the casino that have done similar shady practice that is familiar with his casino's way of operations and this isn't he sign that the ops is deeply rooted and believe in the scam activities done by both 1xbit and the casino who ops complain about.
4533  Economy / Gambling / Re: Enough to consider a casino scam? on: April 18, 2023, 01:53:44 PM
[quote author=Z390 link=topic=5447945.msg62110078#msg62110078 date=
This is invalid, coming from someone who is promoting a proven scam online gambling casino, are you saying that 1xbit was wrongfully accused of been a scam casino where as it's not a scam? Then you have been fooled, you should seek for answers yourself, and believe me there are too many proofs that 1xbit is a scam.
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What do you expect from someone who is promoting a known scam casino, definitely he will support the casino that have done similar shady practice that is familiar with his casino's way of operations and this isn't he sign that the ops is deeply rooted and believe in the scam activities done by both 1xbit and the casino who ops complain about.
4534  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: April 17, 2023, 10:23:39 PM

Me personally  was entertained,  One of the cheapest games was Liverpool versus Leeds, and I knew the outcome even before the game began. I wasn't expecting many goals, but a score of 6:1 wow had me pulling off my Leeds jersey. Salah scoring twice was expected because I enjoy watching him play, and the majority of the goals were well-finished. Diogo Jota also contributed one assist and scored twice. And another thing is that this game will cover for there  lost games if I can remember  very well Liverpool  did similar  to Manchester United.

Liverpool have kept us amazed since the season begin with their multiple goals scoring at any slightest opportunity and tonight the club still repeat the same format of play against Leeds United where the club won the match with 6 goals to 1 and the 5 goals difference is enough gap that could take leed united up to a year to recover from.

Even Liverpool does not need this winning since their chances this season are already dead and there is not much time left for them to make many significant improvements but at least there can take the winning as compensation for their frustration this season because Liverpool has suffered a lot of defeats in this season compared to the previous season.
4535  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamble Responsibly on: April 17, 2023, 10:10:33 PM

This quote makes sense when you're starting out to gamble for the first time, and when you experienced so many losses, but when you're enjoying it and you're totally hooked this quote will not matter and has no relevance,
There are many guides many instructions and many pieces of advice but gambling has emotions attached to it, we cannot make sound logic when we are hooked on gambling.
Gamblers become unreasonable, they even commit a crime and are dishonest so they can continue to play, gambling responsibly will only matter when we developed strong character.
We are already used to this quote and just like the warning on alcohol were os started to drinking responsibly this is just a way to implement a standard procedure in all that we do and the need to set a limit and respect that limit no matter what we a feeling at any time, this is because without taking responsibility we tend to make some regrettable mistakes and that is not something that anyone will want to do gambling can be highly addictive and at that, we must have to be highly principled to survive in the face of gambling pressure.

Some will find it hard to implement responsibility when they are winning and the whole season is in their favour but then if there is no pushback, the game will still reverse against you that way the player may end up chasing winning which can also lead to more severe stage of addiction.
4536  Economy / Gambling / Re: Enough to consider a casino scam? on: April 17, 2023, 09:25:08 PM
As op had stated submitted his KYC document and still the casino had not confirm it. He will need to wait for for more time for it to be confirmed than thinking that the casino is a scam. That is it the we can tell whether a casino is a scam or not. At least waiting for some time will be okay than thinking that they have taken all your money.
I think you have missed the point ops made in that write-up because he stated that he has passed the KYC but the casino refused to pass him by approving his withdrawal even though his KYC status shows successful, so this is an outright scam attempt from the casino in question since ops already passed the verification process because if any of his documents were not accepted by now the casino would have notified him to make possible modification to them.
4537  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Invest in Bitcoin by selling wife's jewelry on: April 17, 2023, 09:14:00 PM
I would not recommend selling the wife's jewelry unless she wants to, although having that money and then putting it in bitcoin is not a bad idea, because it would multiply the money that can later buy those jewelry again, but making that move with her consent, and well I don't see it badly, I also agree when someone borrows money to be able to invest in bitcoin, this when they can pay the loan, because it is not known when the bticoin will increase, or blaze de price or something like that, but I wouldn't last it is to sell jewellery and buy bitcoin, I would.

After a long thought about ops decision to sell his wife's jewellery to buy Bitcoin, I came to the realization close to what Ops thought before taking this route and that thought is the same as if the jewellery is of value and it includes gold and other precious materials which are convertible into another asset such as Bitcoin then I don't see anything wrong in ops decision even though his decision is a risky one and he may lose a large portion of that investment if the price of bitcoin suddenly slides below his bought price.

That way the ops will have to wait for an unspecified time, which has to do with a lot of patients waiting until the price will pick, and in the other hand, ops could become lucky such as now that the price of Bitcoin has risen significantly ops will be at profits right now since he bought the bitcoin at the previous discounted price.
4538  Economy / Gambling / Re: How succesful will AI projects be to win the house? on: April 17, 2023, 09:04:30 PM
We are seeing more and more projects that are almost 100% built on Artificial Intelligence, like ChatGPT. Here are a few experiments that are linked between ChatGPT and gambling....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDthta5sUGQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw3pc-47weg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYegYNkwjR0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlFrI6cLD0E

Do you think AI will be more successful to get a working gambling strategy to win the house... and if they do, what will be the impact on casinos?

I have thought of this before but I don't know how it will result in artificial intelligence and gambling I don't think that it will be a helpful matter or give you an accurate prediction and gambling so let us experiment it by using it to check if it will work or not before we have a conclusion,  that is what I have to say in my own opinion
I never border to watch the video simply because I am not a fan of Artificial Intelligence and this is because its results are bots generated and this lacks any form of human effort which makes it more obvious that it can't be accurate in its dealing and come to think of it to be used in gambling were the system is traditionally designed to favour the house and with the casino house edge it becomes impossible for any external development to interact with the game outcome.

And if AI ever tries to be successful against the house edge, the casino will ultimately see it as an abuse of their platform in the end and fund can be siezed.
4539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: April 17, 2023, 08:16:06 PM
Leeds vs Liverpool tonight, our season is effectively over with nothing meaningful to fight for but I still want to see us win tonight. Leeds are in real trouble at the bottom so this will be a really tough game. They will come at us 100mph from kick off. We need to defend well for the first 20 minutes and then we should have enough quality to win. Thiago is set to start and Luis Diaz will be in the squad for the first time since Partey tried to kill him at The Emirates in October. I’m hoping for a good end to the season.
For Liverpool in this season all hope is lost already and there is nothing to fight for really but then Leeds United can not be taken for granted and Liverpool want to finish the season on a good note just as their doing right now, and making it as a record against next season Liverpool is at the verge of losing all it premier leagues respect build over the years due to their under performance in this season compared to the last season even though the did not lift the trophy is the last season but their left some positive mark and break some records during the last season.

But this season has been different and Liverpool has not made any consistent positive outings in many of the matches in this season either drawing the game or losing it has dragged Liverpool back really.
4540  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2022/2023 on: April 17, 2023, 08:01:21 PM


True, Liverpool controlled the match well, especially in the last 10 minutes of the first half. I watched the build-up to the first goal, it was a bit controversial because the ball hit the hand of Trent Alexander-Arnold before he dribbled it in and sent a perfect assist to Gakpo. But the goal was legal regardless of whether it was subject to VAR review or not. The second goal was also good, Diogo Jota's acceleration on the left side made Salah score easily with his left foot.
Just as I predicted earlier this morning, Liverpool will win against Leeds United with multiple goals and the player with the highest goals scoring will be Salah who has already secured one goal in the first half making Liverpool's goals to stand at 2 goals and I am sure in the second half of the match we will see more goals from Liverpool and this will be the beginning of their pick for the season because this match will increase Liverpool chance to move up on the league table.

The premier league is almost at its end and most clubs are trying their extra efforts to make a big difference before the end of the season and having just a few legs to play most of them will not rest until their pressed home the desired winning, just like Liverpool is pressing so hard in this match.
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