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4541  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: January 16, 2022, 09:06:14 PM
@uneng if you want to build referral base then it’s best to use crypto ad networks, get creative with banners eg win Lamborghini etc and to make sure you get positive ROI use PPC strategy for your ads. Also the numbers don’t mean anything because if you get 1000 referrals and they don’t spend much time one won’t earn, but if you get few big rollers then you’ll earn more so target premium audience to earn more from referrals.  
Thanks for the hint, @Juggy777! It may be also useful for everyone around looking for advices on how to advertise their referral links.

Out of 400+ referrals, only 9 are active ones. The rest of those persons are not using the freebitco site. That's strange because if they naturally joined with your referral links they should remain active.
How did you promote your referral link to get that many inactive referrals ? Did you offer them any incentive for joining with your link ?
The incentive I offered to them was comission back for every actions they execute on the site. The more active they are on the faucet, dice game and investment tab, the more they are going to receive back every week from me. It's not a surprise they got inactive though. The average profile of facebook users (where I promoted the link) is composed by people with zero funds to invest, looking for tasks and small jobs that pay enough to complement monthly income and once they achieve some extra budget to invest, 4% annual interest isn't enough for them, so they completely ignore investment offers like the one from freebitco.in and fall for the ponzi schemes and hyped altcoins, which promise 10% daily or something like this.

Most of the people join freebitco to earn free BTC. And the main marketing tool is ‘earn upto $200 from faucets every hour’. Many newbie crypto user join through the affiliate links with a hope of winning big amounts from faucets. Eventually they leave the site when they loss their interest by getting the lower tier prizes. Among my 38 referrals only one user is active now. I had only 4-5 referrals who used to play the multiply BTC game. But none of them are active now.
Yes, people don't realize there is one chance in ten thousand to hit 200$ every hour or don't understand what "up to" means. They expect to hit it more often, and when they see it's not going to happen, they just give up...

400+ refs wow that's pretty impressive.

I got 100+ refs but I don't think any of them are still active anymore because the number barely goes up.  Cheesy That's understandable because since the price of bitcoin went way up lately it started to make less sense to use the faucet... It would take years before they make the minimum withdrawal amount.
Thanks! 100 referrals is also a nice number!

The ideal would be to refer investors to the site. That is the best kind of referral in my opinion, because they don't even need to be active on the site to generate comission.
4542  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: January 15, 2022, 11:51:59 PM

Any spot where there is a high volume of daily accesses will grant you referrals. Active Facebook crypto related groups used to be a good environment to promote referral links, but I suspect the algorithm was internally changed, because I can't find bitcoin groups anymore on the search bar. It says no results were found, even though I'm member of many groups on that category. I'm almost sure bitcoin content was silently censored there, as I'm stucked with the same amount of referrals for some months already, while before I had a flux of at least 2 new referrals every few weeks*.

Probably the most efficient methods right now are youtube, twitch and similar streaming live content platforms. You need a sensationalist title and thumbnail for your video, then you can share it with most people as possible and hope they will click it. Personally I don't make use of this method and don't like it, because I hate clickbaits. I'm just telling how things work.

* I share part of my comission with my referrals, so it's an extra incentive for them to sign up through my link and that is the reason why I had that flux of new referrals. You can also try doing the same...

Do you get a lot of referrals with these facebook crypto groups? I am also a member of it but it just get flooded all day with referrals links. Yeah, I can imagine that promoting on youtube, twitch would work to get referrals but then you already need to have an account with a lot of followers.
During some years I have got many, but since last year it has been hard... Especially after people started spamming nonsense videos at crypto groups (I don't know why they do this, but completely killed the purpose of the groups) and after facebook algorithm started hidding bitcoin content.

This is how many I currently have:


About 9 of them are active right now and not very productive, hehe... But I can't complain, that is a nice achievement anyway and some of them were really effective in the past. I'm glad for that and I think they are too, because most comission I made returned to them. Wink
4543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Brazilian mayor to reportedly invest 1% of city funds in Bitcoin on: January 15, 2022, 10:34:10 PM
I couldn't find what the annual budget for Rio is, does that 1% mean anything worth mentioning at all?
I found on the legislative house of Rio de Janeiro's state that the total receipt expected for 2022 is around 15$ billion dollars. It means they can potentially invest 150$ million dollars in cryptocurrency.

It would be good news if we were talking about an honest country, honest authorities and if they were going to adopt bitcoin specifically and not cryptocurrency in general.

Such a big city has to have quite a budget. I won't call that 1% worthless.

I've found this paper, but I don't know if it's the numbers we expect.
At page 5 (see image below) it shows at least 15000M BRL, of which 1% is 27M US dollar. I can call it a good start.
And even if this would not happen, I am still happy to see tax exemptions and basically a warm welcome to crypto businesses there. It's a good news.

https://i.imgur.com/MLG2MlP.png


It seems the values contained on this document are restricted to Public Health Actions sector. The total budget is much more expensive.

For 2022 the budget is estimated around 85,7$ billion of reais, which is proportional to 15$ billion dollars.

However, I don't have an article in english with the informations to post here.



EDIT: My bad, I was wrong on my statement above.

15$ billion dollars is the total budget expected for the state of Rio de Janeiro in 2022.

The budget of the city of the Rio de Janeiro (which is the one being talked about on this thread, since it's the mayor who is making the proposal) expected for 2022 is 7$ billion dollars or 40$ billion reais. So the crypto investment would be around 70$ million dollars proportional to 1% of that budget.

https://prefeitura.rio/cidade/com-contas-em-ordem-prefeitura-do-rio-envia-para-camara-orcamento-de-r-40-bilhoes-para-2022/
4544  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: January 15, 2022, 09:42:14 PM
I have been trying to find some more places to do affiliate marketing, so far the places I have checked did not end up being awesome and the most someone earned me was around 9k satoshi, which is not horrible I will give you that but when that is your "best" earner, that is not really good, is it? So that means my old spots are either taken already or not cared at all.

So, I wondered where everyone else got their affiliates? You do not have to share the exact place, like saying "twitter" wouldn't mean I would steal your customers, I just wanted to know where and how you shared in general aspects of it. Social media was never my strong suite, I never had a twitter account with decent amount of followers, so I just assumed that maybe I am not doing the right thing? I hope that I will get a decent place and where you guys are looking for your affiliates.
Any spot where there is a high volume of daily accesses will grant you referrals. Active Facebook crypto related groups used to be a good environment to promote referral links, but I suspect the algorithm was internally changed, because I can't find bitcoin groups anymore on the search bar. It says no results were found, even though I'm member of many groups on that category. I'm almost sure bitcoin content was silently censored there, as I'm stucked with the same amount of referrals for some months already, while before I had a flux of at least 2 new referrals every few weeks*.

Probably the most efficient methods right now are youtube, twitch and similar streaming live content platforms. You need a sensationalist title and thumbnail for your video, then you can share it with most people as possible and hope they will click it. Personally I don't make use of this method and don't like it, because I hate clickbaits. I'm just telling how things work.

* I share part of my comission with my referrals, so it's an extra incentive for them to sign up through my link and that is the reason why I had that flux of new referrals. You can also try doing the same...
4545  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Sports betting or casino? on: January 15, 2022, 09:09:48 PM
One day I won 7k usd on roulette table. But I couldn't retain it. I lost all the usd in 10 minutes and day by day my lossing amount increased. Sometimes casino table was so tough. Whatever I bet all lost. No sequence maintained. If I won a day, I would loss 5 days at a stretch. It seemed all was fixed.
How did you manage to make 7000$ profit on roulette and how did you lose everything in just 10 minutes?

You had a decent profit on your hands already. All you needed to do was to leave the casino and enjoy your earnings. Not that you couldn't come back to continue betting again later, but after huge emotions and big wins a break is necessary to cool down the head and dissipate the adrenaline which keeps forcing us to continue playing. Maybe if you had done that, you wouldn't have lost 7000$ in 10 minutes...

And actually, if the game was rigged you wouldn't have won 7000$ in the first place. You had the chance to go away with more money than you came in...
4546  Other / Archival / Re: Bitcoin makes a loser a winner on: January 14, 2022, 11:23:30 PM
It is same as Bitcoin faucets which gave away many Bitcoin in the past. Now if we look back, we will say faucet receivers in the past are very lucky but it is only partially true.
In fact, it's nice to see these people were using bitcoin as currency back then already, including faucet owners. Undeniably they were responsible for presenting bitcoin to many others who weren't aware about the digital currency yet.

Lucky, yes it is because you are lucky whenever you get gift, airdrop, reward, etc.
Unlucky, if you don't realize its hidden value and lose it later. I mean how many people who claimed Bitcoin faucets years ago or got rewards for losing their fights in-game as Bitcoin, are able to get access to those Bitcoin years later or nowadays?

Most of them lost private key and lose their Bitcoin. Estimate from experts reveals that it's about 4 million Bitcoin was probably lost
Everyone who had some kind of contact with bitcoin ten years ago or so was really lucky. However, if they chose to not enjoy the opportunity, it was their own mistake to throw away all the luck (or gift) they were granted, what doesn't mean they weren't lucky anyway.

Unfortunatelly many wallets and bitcoins are lost, but it's never too late to start again, especially because the lost coins make it probable for bitcoin to rise even more in value futurely, as the supply is more restricted than expected when bitcoin was recently created.
4547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The faith of Altcoins in 2022 on: January 14, 2022, 10:16:05 PM
The expectations towards altcoins in this year of 2022 must be around the called metaverse that seems the next big useless hype of the moment, that is surely going to be used to milk money from speculators who are constantly looking for high returns in short time periods. For big investors who have a lot of money to waste, that isn't a big risk or issue, as they do this kidding without suffering any serious consequences later, but for the small fishes who get greedy with the news they read about whales making big money with altcoins, defi, nfts and now metaverse, the risk is huge, because these people can't afford to lose money with risky investments following the whales' playstyle.

That is why I think faith in altcoins must be avoided. Don't get easily impressed by news saying an altcoin A or B is overcoming bitcoin and rising thousands of % in value on short run. Faith is indeed important, but when investing, logic also plays a big role.
4548  Economy / Economics / Re: US inflation jumped 7% in December as prices rise at rates unseen in decades on: January 14, 2022, 09:28:33 PM
What to do in this situation? I would recommend to study more information not from crypto analysts but from industrial analysts who may have a number of solutions in this situation. But if I had a question about maintaining my wealth, then I would probably distribute my funds into various assets, for example, some cryptocurrencies, gold, real estate, and possibly shares of some industrial companies.
To distribute wealth between bitcoin and productive physical pieces of lands containing sources of water would be a good alternative thinking on long run and on the worse scenarios. Meanwhile, it would be interesting to invest in turning the property into a sustainable one, able to provide you energy, food and water without depending on third party services.

Real estate is always very interesting, but I also think about the possibility the economical crisis becomes so deep that people won't have money to pay for the rent of the properties, so it means loss for the owner, as the taxes keep coming in, even though no one lives there. I'm really concerned about it, because the currently economical scenario looks unprecedented in the history of the world. So far governments have been just sowing the soil with their (bad) actions, manipulating the economy at its maximum, but once the reap starts, it will be catastrophic and inevitable, so everyone will suffer the consequences of what was done during so many decades of negligence and irresponsibility regards traditional fiat system.
4549  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My bitcoin achievement on: January 14, 2022, 08:20:47 PM
good for you. Actually i know many people who didn't succeed with bitcoin because of lack of information how it really works. Wherein they all relies on their luck wherein reason most of their investment always ended up nothing after all..  So congrats to you that you educate your self first before making investment reason you have good results.. Just keep it up you deserve more blessings in the future.
Well, as OP said, patience is the key when investing in bitcoin. People who haven't succeed investing in bitcoin probably haven't been patient enough to hold their coins through the bearish seasons along the years, or maybe exchanged their bitcoins for altcoins due to promises too good to be true which are usually made by altcoins developers and promoters.
I believe even though an investor isn't educated on investments or cryptocurrencies matters, if he just sticks with bitcoin he is going to be rewarded sooner or later, just like OP was.
4550  Economy / Gambling / Re: Vikingbet.io launched this week. on: January 14, 2022, 07:23:52 PM
I really don't see why people are annoyed with their domain expiration. It’s more than 1 month left for renew. Why so serious? However, what I have observed is there's definitely something wrong with their management. They are not giving priority to the suggestion, no response from them which means not a professional one. I would rather stay away from this.
That wouldn't be a big issue if they were at least active replying to comments on this thread since it was created two days ago. I can't accuse vikingbet.io of anything, maybe they are just being careless with details such as domain expiration date, while being excited and concerned about another aspects of their casino launchment. But now that it was pointed out, it should be renewed faster as possible, otherwise many gamblers aren't going to give the site a try. If vikingbet.io really wants to grow and stay competitive on this forum I suppose they should designate a manager to take care the main thread with updates and to answer members' posts in real time. It gives a lot of credibility, especially at the beginning.
4551  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Crypto betting vs Fiat betting on: January 12, 2022, 10:06:16 PM
Which one is more secured and fast for inline usage.
As some crypto casinos don't ask for KYC you may feel more secured when betting with bitcoin or altcoins, if compared to fiat casinos which will be attached to your credit card or banking personal informations. And regards agility of the transactions, well, it will depend on the current conditions of the network, but it usually doesn't take too long to have a deposit or withdrawl finished, at least taking Stake.com as example. Another positive point is that the cashout fees aren't expensive. For the reasons presented I think crypto gambling is totally advantageous for gamblers that fiat betting isn't missed in anyways.
4552  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: January 12, 2022, 08:14:09 PM
CASINO UPDATES
dPlay will add XFUN as a gaming currency alongside FUN. The XFUN Casino will be launched, complete with a wider variety of games.
Why did you choose to have two casinos instead of integrating dPlay and XFUN into a single platform? It seems hard enough to make one platform popular dealing only with FUN currency, now imagine two of them...

Q3 2022:
LAY STAKING AT dPlay
Lay Staking will be introduced to dPlay, allowing users to take the house's side on bets
The old and good casino bankroll investment which has became scarce nowadays among crypto casinos in general.

Anyway, it only worths for investors if the platform has a high volume of daily bets and many active gamblers. It's also important to notice FUN value must be stable at least, otherwise the profit made through staking might be lost if the tokens continues losing price as we have seen.
4553  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is gambling for the rich who can afford to lose ? on: January 12, 2022, 06:15:17 PM
So can we say that gambling is for the riches who can afford to lose?
Yes, only those who are rich can move large sums of money in gambling industry. These are the whales, the big bettors, the big winners and also the big losers who keep the whole ecosystem alive. And actually, gambling is the most efficient method to get money voluntarily from the riches to share with the society, what has a very different impact when compared to the inefficient governments who think it's a better idea to create extra taxes and fees to force riches to pay more to the society in counterpart for their personal financial success.

After all gambling has the same effect, but different from governments' measures, it works, because no one is being forced to anything.
4554  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling addiction?! on: January 12, 2022, 05:54:15 PM
Addicted gamblers are always optimistic from the moment they start playing on, so the glass is always half full in their concept, what makes them blind towards the real risks and dangers they are facing. It leads gamblers to boost a sensation of invincibility and self-esteem inside themselves, consequently developing the addictive behavior, as the brain and the mind becomes more excited and impulsed by the adrenaline and emotions it causes along a gambling session. It's a fact some people enjoy living on the limit and under constant risks, so gambling becomes an option for them to live that lifestyle.
4555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Play2earn games on: January 12, 2022, 06:30:56 AM
believe it or not, that the presence of NFT games so far has had a very positive impact among gamers and that it will have a good future hope for every gamer by earning income through the games they play, we can see the recent surge experienced by NFT tokens such as Decentraland, Sandbox, Pyr, and Cifi. this seems to be because many investors are interested in investing in crypto which has better potential for the future among gamers.

Not really,,, real gamers actually put game experience far above anything else, earning should be an additional incentive, not the main pull of the game, as you can tell from millions of gamers who still play the same games after many years.

If NFT tokens stop being so profitable on Play2earn games, will the users still continue playing the games? I guess we'll see.
It's still a mistery if once the hype ends the games will remain functional. I think a good example to be watched is Axie Infinity which seems to have lost its momentum, as there isn't a constant flux of new players anymore to keep the prices of the axies and SLP expensive.

The problem with these games is sustainability. The infinite supply of raw materials created in game are too much at some point to maintain the perfect balance between demand and supply. Furthermore, players who cheat the games through methods to automatize the gameplay (bots) are a big issue at online games in general, which totally crash games' economies, devaluing goods' values and creating excessive supply.

If play to earn games' developers where able to ban bots, the economy would become more competitive, healthy and encouraging to legit players to invest their time and money on this activity. Sadly it doesn't happen, consequently making some players suspect the platforms' managers benefit themselves somehow by the chaos promoted by the cheaters...
4556  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I want your happiness. on: January 12, 2022, 04:17:42 AM
Stay away from crypto trading, because it's actually not too different when compared to gambling. You can be a skilled charts' reader, but it doesn't mean you will be able to predict market fluctuations with efficiency on long run, because we are in an unpredictable market which moves without apparent reasons relatively often from times to times.
Keep trading as a hobby in your life, but don't rely on it for a living. Use your money smartly to invest in another options which are safer. For an example: just hold bitcoins or buy a property and milk passive income from it. Once you start receiving profit from your investments you may think about start trading again. Only then you will have the assurance you won't compromise yourself if you lose money that way, so it won't be an issue at all.
4557  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Teaching your kids to gamble. on: January 12, 2022, 02:40:45 AM
Parents? They are responsible but most kids are learning gambling from the internet not from their parents so the growth of technology has to be blamed if we want to blame something. But as a parent it is important to talk about money to our kids and importance of managing it then these teens will know how much to spend because its not going to be their money on most cases.
Well that is right --parents will not teach their kids how to gamble, that is just because kids are very aggressive and curious about gambling so they are looking for ways how to learn it and perhaps they will become under influence with someone else around them. These days people are prone to the internet many of them have their own internet at home so that is possible that through the internet source some kids learn how to gamble. We have a lot of streamers out there that are where they can learn. So that parents should always be responsible for what their kids do and not involve in that early stage of gambling.
As kids are learning gambling practices from another sources of informations, I think it's an extra reason for parents to present this subject to their children faster, because the alternative of not introducing gambling to underage people doesn't exist nowadays with wide access to the internet by almost everyone. It's not a matter of if, but of when.

Here in my country, although gambling is illegal, some TV channels display gambling propagandas (especially 1xbet), where poor people from the slums suddenly earn insane amounts of money by betting at the platform. The idea of the marketing is always the same, although they change some details to make it more interesting and less repetitive. Without any doubts it's a big risk for young people from these areas to watch such ads without their parents around to explain what they see on the television doesn't represent the reality.
4558  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pros and Cons of Gambling on: January 12, 2022, 01:22:57 AM
In my opinion the main pro is that gambling industry is big and wealthy, creating jobs opportunities for many people where it is well established, being it land based or just virtual model like the casinos we have being promoted on this forum. Many people here have an income through signature campaigns thanks to the gambling industry, so they can feed their families, make their investments and thrive their financial life, while others have a gambling income promoting casinos at youtube or at their own reviews' websites, earning from general ads or directly from the casinos they promote. Moreover, there are those who work for the gambling platforms on the management, support, marketing or technical sectors to keep the sites working clean and competitive among their competitors.

If we include land based casinos the range of created jobs increases even more, because there are the engineers and architects who project the casinos blueprints and structures, contractors who execute the constructions, casino's employees in general, waiters, security guards, cooks and artists who entertain the customers...

The cons is that if you can't take the responsability for your money and your own acts, you may end going bankrupt, so instead of being benefited by the industry by working on it or just by having fun while respecting your financial limits, you will screw it all. But keep in mind it always depend on you if gambling is going to have a positive or negative effect on your life.
4559  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: IS it possible to let your BTC work for you ? on: January 12, 2022, 12:45:15 AM
I think the only way would to be to lend bitcoin person to person while receiving some kind of collateral from the borrower, preferentially without any third party platforms or middlemen involved on the negotiation. It's not easy to execute though, because it's hard to find personal customers with so many well established lending services operating already on the crypto universe.
Anyway, KYC isn't an issue if you are doing legit business. Actually, it's an extra safety measure as these lending services are regulated and working accordingly to the rules of the countries where they are registered, what means people behind them can't hide themselves on the anonymity, being possible to track them if something goes wrong with the services they offer.
4560  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How does one start on crypto? on: January 11, 2022, 09:26:26 PM
Lending is one way to increase your source of profit, it takes a lot of capital before you'd start earning a decent amount. You can check the forum's lending section to get an idea of the situation. It's not the best option but it's better to have alternatives than sticking to one or two options.
 
lending is a good business but currently the competition is very tight while the OP is a newbie so there will definitely be a lot of cheats, hopefully the OP can be patient and grow his account first so he can join a signature campaign that pays btc or other tokens..
Signature campaigns is indeed a good one but not all would able to level or rank up their account so fast unlike that pre-merit system which it is really that easy but now its hard unless if you are
really that a good poster which could earn merits fast.

Starting up crypto whether on means on being an investor or doing those tasks which could potentially earn you crypto with those jobs but this one do really
still requires effort.
Starting as an investor is the easiest way to adopt bitcoin. Any amount you can save and invest in bitcoin monthly worths, especially now that the price is relatively cheap. In some months or years there is a high probability your money will grow if invested in bitcoin. Meanwhile it's possible to lend your coins, as mentioned above, what doesn't need to be necessarily made through this forum, but at some third party platforms which pay daily or weekly interest. Invest at your own responsability, though. Although I like this idea, unfortunatelly I can't guarantee it's 100% safe. All I can say is that so far it has been working.
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