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4561  Economy / Gambling / Re: AI has beaten top poker professionals on: December 23, 2017, 01:54:05 PM
Interesting article and unbeatable proof that texas holdem isn't gambling.
I wonder how this will affect whole online poker industry in future.
But who are these guys? Let that machine meet STEPHEN CHIDWICK or Daniel Negreanu with all the skills these guys have!
They are good because they can read opponents. They can't read AI.
Lol.  Not sure if serious.  Negeaunu turned out to be one of the weaker poker players after a generation of online players started taking the scene during the mid 2000's.  Guys like Cole South, Brian Townsend and I guess Patrik Antonious and a whole lot of young guns.
On side note he took third place as top 10 poker players in 2017.
4562  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Etherdelta up again? on: December 23, 2017, 12:19:11 PM
As long as you're on the legitimate site of Etherdelta, it's safe to use. The recent hack was a domain hack(redirecting etherdelta.com to another website),
 not etherdelta itself.

So as long as you're on the correct exact website, (https://etherdelta.com):
,

then it's safe to use.
I am getting this error:

Hmm. We’re having trouble finding that site.
We can’t connect to the server at etherdelta.com.


 Undecided

I don't think I will use it ever again.
4563  Economy / Gambling / Re: What about the "trusty" games on: December 23, 2017, 11:45:58 AM
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I do understand the provable fair system and have done my homework so...
My point is ,how can you be so sure that the seeds generated by client or the server are not manipulated ? Have you studied any of those algorithms ? I don't think so...You're right about the nonce change but seeds can be randomised or manipulated..
Player can manipulate result only if he knows server seed, which is pretty much impossible.
Casino can manipulate result because they know both player and server seed.
Nonce(or bet number) is solving this issue, so as long as you don't want to change client seed server seed should remain the same and only your bet number is changing. Take stake for example, unless you don't change client seed nothing is randomized leaving no room for manipulation.
4564  Economy / Gambling / Re: What about the "trusty" games on: December 23, 2017, 10:28:45 AM
Without which it will not be provably fair. Hence they say if that is the formula for generating random numbers then you can trust that casino.
I disagree.There are multiple ways one can manipulate this and these are just the basics,actual provable fair casinos do much more than just taking nonce into consideration.
And I disagree with you.
In reality if casino provide you server seed, you provide client seed and ONLY nonce change from 1 to n that is true provably fair.
It seems that many don't really understand provably fair system.
4565  Economy / Gambling / Re: What about the "trusty" games on: December 22, 2017, 07:16:30 PM
OP do research about provably fair gambling. You can find couple topics on this board.
"Farer"? or did you mean fair?

It depends on the site and how they generate their random numbers. The bitcoin gambling foundation has always said that to be a real provably fair system, it must have this formula,

Code:
[Server Seed Hash] + [Client Seed] + [Nonce]

Without which it will not be provably fair. Hence they say if that is the formula for generating random numbers then you can trust that casino.

However, thing is that is pretty much the basics of it. I have not read anyone that would have criticized this here on the forum (or probably I missed it). In a much more deeper level of understanding, there would be some aspects of this that can still be cheated. But I can't really say how that would be, but likely some good crafty programmer can think of ways to cheat this if they wanted to.
There is no possible way for casino to cheat players if only nonce change.
4566  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitcointalk English Premier League Betting Pool v2.0 | Current pot: Ł240 on: December 22, 2017, 06:51:32 PM
The first round will start with the boxing day games and I'll start collecting money in mid next week so not long left if you want to join it.
Do you accept alts?
Bitcoin fees are too high.
4567  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Q for Bitcoin gamblers. Are you affected by high transaction fees? on: December 22, 2017, 06:29:51 PM
Yes, I never thought I will say this but I switched to alts.
I recently sent some money to exchange and I payed 100$ fees, i can't imagine paying so high fees for gambling.
Other option would be to send transaction with small fees and wait for couple a days..or using accelerators... Undecided
4568  Economy / Reputation / Re: Known Alts of any-one - A user Generated List Mk III on: December 21, 2017, 12:31:25 AM
If you press
Code:
Control-F
at the same time, you can search through the entire spread sheet.
Only one by one, for example "game" will find crypto-games in first sheet



But to find game-protect you will have to go to MKIII sheet.

and if you missed me saying it prior, this is my first foray into Google Spread Sheets
I didn't. I read  Shocked

If you let me know which proofs aren't clickable, then I'll attempt to add them in.



etc.

Oh, i have found alt(probably an hour ago)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1041859
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=869796
will edit post tomorrow.

They didn't read topic which gave me false result  Roll Eyes
4569  Economy / Reputation / Re: should i create new account? on: December 20, 2017, 11:37:15 PM
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could you give me the reason why you don't want to join the twitter campaign with your btt acount ?
He obviously want to build another account  Roll Eyes
4570  Economy / Reputation / Re: [User Generated Mk III] - Known alts of anyone Mk III on: December 20, 2017, 11:02:50 PM
Quote
Resources:
Add this https://www.blocktrail.com/api

TBH I don't like spread sheet, it looks messy, why did you separate "known alt" topics? It should be on one sheet(not 4-5), also user ID's/several proofs are not clickable.
4571  Economy / Reputation / Re: NEW IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE THAT ATRIZ == LAUDA!!!!!!!1111oneone on: December 20, 2017, 10:30:34 PM
are you fucking high or this account is hacked?
no sir i am just sir looking sir for a sirgnature campaign for bitcoin because the bitcoin sir is the best and i love the bitcoin sir
are you that dense that you can't detect this obvious as fuck sarcasm?
I agree with your saying.
Signature compaign is best way for earning bitcoins because signature compaigns can earn you money and thats why I like to earn money via signature compaigns.
God bless and good luck.

I know my English is far away from good and it needs improvement but this shit has to stop!
4572  Local / Hrvatski (Croatian) / Re: 5 star mining (cloud mining) on: December 20, 2017, 09:42:51 AM
Naletio sam pred 3 tjedna na novu stranicu koja se zove 5 star mining.
I usput si otkrio bitcointalk i otvorio račun da promoviraš ponzi?
Prilikom registracije poklanjaju 200GHs na 2 tjedna, i imaju opciju reinvestiranja onog sto zaradis na rudarenju.
Ne poklanjaju oni ništa već koriste novce od novih depozita za isplatu tih "poklona".
U pogonu su tek 44 dana
Znači da ne budu još dugo.
Na forumima gdje su u prvih par radnih dana stranice pisali da je scam
Dobro su napisali.
noviji komentari pokazuju suprotno
Pričajući o pozitivnim komentarima i ti si dao pozitivan komentar.  Roll Eyes
volio bih cut misljenja drugih na prvi pogled na platformu.
Imaš moje mišljenje u trustu.

Prije nego li se polakomite investirati više nego što ćete moći podnesti (dakle prije suza i lupanja glavom u zid) moram vam reći da je ovo klasični Ponzi tj, HYIP. Sad se pitate što je to, jel' da? Pošto mi se ne da prevoditi evo citat
Ko da on to ne zna.
4573  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to control greed on gambling? on: December 19, 2017, 10:07:47 PM
When you win withdraw your wins and go to the party this is the best way.If you try to make more finally you will lose all your  money.Gambling is for fun not for money.
FTFY.
Dont be greedy on gambling is the key to play it. How to control it? Set a limit of amount you can afford to lose
if you win or lose you know when to stop it
It seems that you don't understand what greed is.
Greedy gambler will hit something big then he will push game harder to win more money and at the end lose all. You can't change greedy person no matter how hard you try.
4574  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: what impact has gambling make in your life? on: December 19, 2017, 09:57:57 PM
There's a lot i've learnt from gambling ans thats about the impact it has had on my life. It thought me discipline and self control. It taught me about money management and how to effectively grow my little investments, it even taught me how not to loose money stupidly as was my case in the past.
that is sounds like a bullshit opinion lol , please be honest and realistic that overall gambling destroy your previous beautiful life instead provide you a positive impact. i do experienced a lot of things in gambling and nothing good affecting me.

just loss and more losses come after me , don't be naive , life through gambling was not that easy.
Why do you think that gambling has to destroy every single life?
I've lost lots of money and it didn't destroy my life nor it has significant impact on it.
Only thing I have learned is that holding bitcoin is always better idea.
4575  Other / Meta / Re: Ideas for improving post quality? on: December 19, 2017, 12:13:35 AM





1+1 = 2680 bumped topics today.

1) Add more moderators to these boards  Wink

2) Don't allow junior members/members/full members to wear payed signature
3) Don't allow ICO bounties to accept 500+ members
4) Ban account sales/ re-edit for third time  Roll Eyes - don't ban account sales. Ban sold accounts.
5) Add moderators to every single local board
6) If you can't fight them - join them, create new child board  in "other" section - "spam here and build rank" that would decrease spam in all forum sections
7) Ban all users who cheated signature campaigns
Cool
9) I can't post reason number 8 because 8 is cool
10) Thrash ALL identical topics - example can we use bitcoin without internet & no internet no bitcoin!!!  
I would also go with this:



And not only what I wrote in that message  Wink

To be honest I would personally go only with 1).
4576  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Dice, Slot, Roulette, Bitspin | ETH/LTC Launched! on: December 18, 2017, 12:03:06 PM
before i answer you  did you even bother to see your own profile and how many guys called you scammer
Who did I scam? One negative is fake, second is retaliation and I am not sure for what is third  Roll Eyes
and now you saying to me go to school kid ? who are you?
And who are you to call people scammers without any reason?  Angry
im not rejected as im not even elegible with new account
Why do you complain then?
plus go ahead see the last weeks of the posting see how many guys probably over 50 everyday coming posting i want to join they add the signature and never got answer
I don't care how many of you have been rejected.
Would you please stop spamming?
are you just spreading your signature as well ?
If I create new account to say the same thing, would you feel better?
go see the google doc in the thread they made  plus go see the escrow wallet  plus go see the last time they answered a guy there  like you rejected or you accepted before you come and say nonesense  then come answer me and tell me where im wrong
Only one who is writing nonsense is you.
if you want to use bad words i will not answer you just reporting you  i dont know who is the kid  so shut up and read what others  who joined and had problem with them are saying
You will report me...for what exactly?  Grin
4577  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🌟Bitvest🌟 - Investor Plinko, Dice, Slot, Roulette, Bitspin | ETH/LTC Launched! on: December 18, 2017, 10:26:49 AM
why you not  close the thread about your signature compaign
Probably because they are accepting new users all the time.
since it has been weeks you do not answer the users who just joined and  added the ads to the signature
why no one answer or updating
Either they are all rejected or there is no room for new participants at the moment.
are you taking advantage from new users who applied and added the signature while none of them is even answered or updated ?
With behavior like this I doubt anyone will accept you. Would you please stop ranting all over the forum with your nonsense?
both you and the guy who manage that compaign i call you scammers
Lightlord, zodiac and lutpin are trusted forum members. Crawl back to school kid.
4578  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Worst mistake in gambling on: December 18, 2017, 09:35:57 AM
Sometimes being ignorant and do our own decision is much better then following people.
No, it's not. If thousand people say that gambling strategy which will help you to win doesn't exist, scripts won't help you to win, martingale will lead to bankruptcy no one should ignore it.
Some people are only able to give advice but when something wrong happen they wont be responsible for that so it is better to be regretting your own decision then to follow someone's else
And some people can't stay on topic.
4579  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Should I try to win back my loss? on: December 17, 2017, 04:27:32 PM
I can't believe people are still suggesting OP to stop.
I think you should just stop betting. You are saying you lost 16 times in a row which was around 0.06 btc, pretty good amount of money. There is no guarantee that you might win some money if you bet more, so I think you just should not bet any more. If you keep on losing you might even lose all of your money. Try to keep a limited amount of money for gambling, if you lose then just stop. If you keep on losing it would become stressful and you won't be having fun through gambling anymore.
Dude, OP stopped, then he tried martingale again and lost 17 times, he has won jackpot, bitcoin price jumped from $5K to $20K and many other things happened in two months.  Roll Eyes
4580  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Bitsler or freebitcoin,which one is the fairest ? on: December 17, 2017, 04:19:03 PM
Hey all  Smiley

so i was doing some gambling lately in both freebitcoin and bitsler sites and i think i discovered something ! i guess you have a higher chance of winning in bitsler than freebitcoin why ? check the image below:
https://i.imgur.com/Vf7XJQM.png
and bitsler:
https://i.imgur.com/X2Zl2RM.png
so you technically have a higher chance of winning in bitsler than freebitcoin ? how come ?
It's called house edge, it has nothing to do with fairness. Both sites are provably fair.
You see, bitsler has lower house edge than freebitcoin which means you will win more often on bitsler. House edge is around 1% in every single dice site while freebitcoin has biggest house edge(5%).
and why people still bet on freebitcoin if they already know that the odds aren't in their favor ?
You would be surprised to see how many people don't care about house edge.
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