U can't use the old BTC block-chain I figure that out 2nd week of October,

This is a new data-structure, a 2mb block, where the old is 1mb, completely different data structure.

Ergo this is NOT a download, this is read & sync the existing block chain and rewrite the entire bitch, think -REBUILD times 100X slower than shit, I'm seeing some 2 blocks per minute getting processed,

I have been building the block-chain over&over since 3rd week of October, both testnet and mainnet, the current block-chain I have is 99% done, but it only goes to 491406, the fork is 491407, that's where the devs are mining, from 1407 to 9407, taking some 8,000 blocks ( $50M USD ) todays price off the top at difficulty one, obviously these chinese/bugarian assholes have 2-3 different sets of software one for github, and one for themselvs, and another for the chinese.

I think that given btg.suprnova.cc is down, and pool.gold is still MINING TESTNET, everybody is in waiting game the people who have downloaded and compiled the 6 hour old 'launch' code now, have a LONG wait to build their block-chain.

U would think given the relationship of pool.gold and github.com/btcgpu ( same ppl ) that pool.gold would get an early copy of the block-chain, but I don't think this is the gig, at 20Million sol's / sec, your talking about some $2,000 USD/day by re-directing hash to z-coins, these guys are going to keep this shit going as long as they can. For 3+ weeks now pool.gold has been running testnet,, essentially giving NOTHING to idiots and making themselves rich.

I have NO idea what happens when my daemon (mainnet) hits 491406, will it just sit?? will the boyz at btcgpu have finished their pre-mine? I have no idea, there is nothing in the code about 491406, 491407, or 499407, so there is OBVIOUSLY code not  in our hands.

I think that these first 8,000 blocks will have magic cookies, so even if I was to mine post 491406 in the next few hours, I don't think I would be able to keep the blocks, cuz I think BTCGPU is mining offline and marking the blocks with magic-numbers essentially something like this range of blocks is OWNED by DEV-BTCGPU,

But if I can fetch blocks and own them that's fine, but IMHO from what I have seen of the assholes so far, most likely there's more software to be released that deals with these MAGIC BLOCKS.

Really good advice, but with +2,000 alt shit-coins, to choose and the next 10k% gainer in a day to be a random event, one needs to BUY into 100's to be covered to get the gainers.

There appears to be no rhyme or reason of the top-gainers day 2 day, shit just happens, thus the only rational is to buy all, and perhaps ramp up on winners

Your advice is familar  stock-market logic, but there is no logic to this tulip mania ponzi, some of these caps are so thin a guy could rise his coin astro with $100 USD, U didn't mention CAPS, it would be interesting to see your strategy of separating wheat from chaff.

IMHO that don't work either here, some of the biggest SHIT around is in the top 20 CAP, so that doesn't really help filter, I see a lot of the real good stuff as low as 50 in cap sorting ( capitalization in millions ).

Then there are coins & tokens, and there are minable and non-minable; surely the stuff that isn't minable isn't even a real cryto, its just a synthetic IPO.

So given your old-skool strategy how do we apply it to new skook insanity??

The MORON INDEX  "PRICE" means nothing, ( price in USD )

More interesting is underneath the covers, knowing the weakness and faults, finding the Achilles heal of the bitch, ...

WRT to the 'moron index', its about where BCH was at the low, ... typical most of these BTC-CLONES run about 10%  of the mother, figure tops $500 at open, crawled back up, and down as low as $100.

I don't care one iota about price, I accumulate ( mine free coins of choice ) and keep FOREVER.

I made a commitment to self long ago, I can buy HW, and I can CODE, but I will NEVER put REAL MONEY into this shit.

Let's see if they can paint this bitch as a BCH?? Anything is possible when 99% of the people are fools, and the fool population keeps rising, more fools are brought in everyday, as you can see in this forum ( however IMHO most of the newbies here R bots ), but it does create the illusion of excitement, and you know deferral is always the enemy of the scammer and ponzi artist, keep the sheep excited and tell them they have to get in now,

I will mine BTG as long as it pay's the electricity cost and I keep forever, once the mining rigs quit paying for their own electricity, then I'm done with BTG.

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Now price in BTC is more abstract, the US-DOLLAR will soon collapse, BTC will be around a long time, so again the moron-index to value something in USD, is like saying how good it is relative to a pile of feces. Of course BTG (shit) is better than the USD , the USD is decayed shit, BTG is fresh shit

Selective reader R we? I have said all along since early October I have been hacking this source, I have all the proxy's working, I have the block-chain now 99% complete, I have all the miner's tested.

I'm a software geek, but I can't help but pointing out how fucked this operation is, ... just my nature, what's your excuse for occupying this forum?

Does ONE have to suck BTG-PENIS to be here? I mine, I mine BTG ( but not the stupid test-net ) I have had my own testnet & mainnet running for 3+ weeks,

How far along are you?

I clone bitcoins too, but this one being backed by some of the richest mafia people in Russia/China, caught my interest.

Village Idiots win once again, too bad is all CHINA-OWED

Jack Liao must be laughing his ass off at the stupid white hairlips.

Wonder how much of this will trickle down to the Gimps in Bulgaria, Liao's boy 'anonymous' Hx2Bot' is chinese, and he's the real controller here, the entire BULGARIAN deal was always a 'false-front' cuz in Aug2017, the CHINA GOV banned this shitty "TOKEN", so it got re-invented, moved to Russia (YOBIT.NET), and the magic done in "Bulgaria", now it can come back and be sold in CHINA as a legitimate "BTC" clone ... in some parts of the world this act would be called "MONEY LAUNDERING", taking shitty dirty ill-gotten money and making it clean.

Question, could BTG really be a CHINESE money laundering front?

 Pool is currently waiting for the Devs to finish their premine and will then auto-start stratum at Block > 499407

block 491407 was 'fork' and public mining begins 499407, all 8,000 blocks in between are to be OWNED by retards in Bulgaria, ... figures, ... this keeps getting richer.

YOBIT.NET prices mean nothing, there is a complete disconnect between PRICING this scam shit-coin, and what MORONS will pay for it,

The price and futures has NO BEARING on reality, and honestly the people who trade don't give a fuck about reality, they all run on the assumption of the "Greater FOOL" that some dumb-ass, being dumber than them will buy at a higher price.

All these DUMB asses that trade BTG future will end up holding the bag of shit.

Another WAY to look at this is that PUBLIC can't mine until block 499407, that means that all block from 491407 to 499407, all 8000 are OWNED by BTG-DEV, that nobody outside can mine that block range, now if they want and set difficulty to 1 and time to zero, they could mine those 8000 blocks in a few minutes,

NOBODY really knows what these CUNTS are up to,

THey're NOT that smart, mostly just incompetent, but somebody there could be running this show.

They're probably going to TRY to mark all block in this 8,000 RANGE as DEV-BLOCKS, otherwise I'll be mining them solo in a few hours, as my block-chain is now 99% complete, but I start 8 days ago.

PLANNED or just incompetence, I think I said all along it would take weeks to download, as its not a download, the entire block-chain must be recomputed and reformatted.

Their current FORK from 491407 to 499407 is 8000 blocks, at 10 min, interval that be 55 days, that from OCT25  (first fork date) puts this BITCH ready on XMAS day, ... do U get it??

[size=30pt]I said all along this BITCH would not go live until 2018.[/size]

Jerry  Lewis was a comedian from 1950's, and spent his retired years helping retarded children, and created the "special olympics"

Jack liao, has done the same, by off-shoring the dev of BTG from CHINA to Bulgaria, Jack has help retarded convicts in the BULGARIAN gulags learn to clone bitcoin.

Jack Liao is a chinese billionaire, who makes ASIC Hardware to mine bitcoin. He say's he now regrets making ASIC, and wants to redeem himself by providing GPU mining to the worlds poor, he also promises to castrate himself, as homage for his crimes of creating and marketing ASIC.

Well it was bound to happen,

These clever idiots would pull something out of their ass, and this is IT, and NEW FORK BLOCK NUMBER and a new date,

Like I said a month ago, it will be 2018, before BTG is operational.

October 25, block 491407, now they say to "WAIT" until block 499407, ok that's XMAS day those magic elves in bulgaria, you got to love them

8,000 blocks  @10 min interval = 55 days

Oct 25 ( last fork date ) + 55 days => Dec 25 XMAS TODAY : Happy New Year, 2018 and U get BTG

HURRY UP & WAIT, but come XMAS day santa (jack liao) going to give you a new mining pool to get RICH

Have U ever thought about going there to pool.gold and looking for yourself?? Or do they still not empower bots?

If it's 'running' then its on TESTNET, if its waiting, then its WAITING for the block-chain to be 100% estimated time NOV 25, block # 499407

No, this team is special, like "Jerry's Kids" special, like special olympics 'special'.

The simple fact that Jack Liao, can put his name on shit, and that the 'token' got banned in aug2017 in CHINA, and get shipped to Russia, where they put together a 'team' in Bulgaria, to re-package the 'token' as a 'bitcoin-clone/gold', is well historical.

In BTC history, I see this as some kind of turning point, where BTC development got off-shored to the insane asylums and prisons.

Mainnet launched
Public mining will be available at block height 499407
this info emerged on the main web

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So there was the fork, I think block 470107 or some non-sense, oct 25, now there is a 'new fork', another magic block number, that we must all "WAIT" for,


This shit-coin could be called the "HURRY UP and WAIT COIN".

Interesting number, that could be another 10 days, before its reached.

Note a pattern here? Fork, oct25, ... 4 launches, and now the launch, but still have to wait ....

Wait for what?

Oh, never mind, if you want some BTG you can go to YOBIT.NET and BUY with BTC

Where the hell do they get this number '499407' Think about this.


There is nothing coded in the source wrt this number, thus its a gentleman's agreement, that ALL must wait until 499407 at pool.gold ( owned by BTG ),

But btg.suprnova.cc will not wait, they'll enable mining for public, as soon as they have a 100% block-chain,

IMHO 499407 is an estimate of when the block-chain will be 100% that quite a long  time out....


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NOTE all along the bastards have said "NO SOLO MINING", which of course is why I'm solo mining, when I first saw this bullshit a month ago on their site, I said to myself "WHY", "How can they say NO SOLO MINING", shit its just BTC,

Then it occurred to me they wanted to corral all the 'cats' into mining-pools, ... well who wants to be corralled? Right?

So what's the deal with this number?? It's for the mining pool, and most likely POOL.GOLD, which is still post-launch, mining TESTNET

NOTHING to SEE MOVE ALONG

How this will play out.

0.) dev's&jack liao, pre mine 1M BTG, they care jack-shit about the launch or fork, sell mortimer, sell

1.) Insiders will mine solo at difficulty ONE, my block-chain is now 99%, my solo miner's & proxys were tested 3 weeks ago, I'm ready, and just waiting for chain to complete, its been 8 days now to build the block chain.

2.) 4-10 days after the 'release' (LAUNCH) of working code the pools will go LIVE, at this time minng difficulty will sky-rocket

3.) After about 10 days, the ROI of BTG will be less than $1/day per mining rig.

4.) More marketing and PR, idiots will be told that this is the next BCH or BTC, that somehow this shitty clone is 'better' than BTC ( even though its 99.99999999999% exact copy of BTC core ).

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Rich get richer, poor get fucked over&over, ... same shit different day,

Paranoid? Nope, I try to deal with reality and actually read the code, and run the code for 4+ weeks, how about U? Do U just post based on what you read in the 'news' or do you actually roll up your sleeves and get into the shit (BTG)??

https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/173

Somebody has to report BTG, why not me?

It's almost over, its been a wild ride for almost a month.

Assholes promote this shit, there has to be blow-back, that's how I look at this, "Tell the truth and run" - George Seldez

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"Only the paranoid survive" - andy grove, founder of INTEL.

Three hours ago, they made a new release of 'main-net' they typically release a new version on git-hub every two days.

If you bother to venture over to github.com/btcgpu, and click on issues, U can see that the current release is a failure of epic proportions.

https://github.com/BTCGPU/BTCGPU/issues/173

Whether any mining pool can build the block-chain in the next 24 hours, at this time NOBODY has a valid  working block-chain for BTG.

Pool.Gold ( ppl who own BTG ) are still mining on TESTNET

BTG.suprnova.cc is stopped TESTNET and is waiting for working code, and is attempting to download a working block-chain, the problem is it can't be downloaded as it doesn't exist, it must be constructed by scratch, which means 7-10 days

The dev's clearly didn't mean 'launch' anymore than they meant 'fork', all is this is about delay, keep trading BTG on yobit.net, and keep redirecting hash on pool.gold, and run the scam as long as possible, string the morons along as long as possible.

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http://eu.btgpool.pro/

Is a bitcoin-z pool and has no ability to process BTG, this is just a site that solicits traffic to its BTC-Z site.

Clever call you pool BTG, and they will come.

This guy is doing the same redirection bullshit, people go to his site, who don't know shit, and they think they're mining BTG, but they're NOT.

Bitcoin Gold (BTG) Stratum servers: stratum+tcp://btcz.altpool.pro:3857

THERE IS NO WORKING SOFTWARE

THERE IS NO BLOCKCHAIN

Without a block-chain, no balance can be determined for said coin.

what you see on YOBIT.NET is accounting of 'futures', but there is NO REAL-LIFE valid block-chain of BTG alive on the planet earth, nor is there working code to build one.