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461  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining farms in the US how is demand calculated with electrical rate? on: January 11, 2018, 02:02:07 AM
Got it.  It would obviously be nice to be in a colder climate but we'll survive with good quality fans Smiley

Right on Smiley
462  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Whistling sound from the latest batch of S9's on: January 11, 2018, 01:56:28 AM
It could be a bad quality cooling fan production batch and the fans having this issue --->  coil whine.

This is the fan I have on the Jan batch S9. Yate Loon D12BM-12D

463  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining farms in the US how is demand calculated with electrical rate? on: January 11, 2018, 01:54:15 AM
Mine are open no cooling.  GPUs did fine last summer so we'll see how the ASICs perform.  Worst case I'll offset the heat slightly with some AC but I don't ever plan to cool the room down to 60 degrees, that's just a waste of money.

100% agree, I was simply talking about the cold isle of my setup, which would only be like 20-30 sq/ft. And I was thinking 70-75F would be fine, maybe even warmer.
464  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Whistling sound from the latest batch of S9's on: January 11, 2018, 01:42:50 AM
It could be a bad quality cooling fan production batch and the fans having this issue --->  coil whine.

I will say that this Jan 13.5 TH S9 runs cooler than my Dec 14 TH, but who really knows why with the apparent variance of the hardware. But they are all doing their job and hashing away so I don't care what they sound like Smiley
465  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining farms in the US how is demand calculated with electrical rate? on: January 11, 2018, 01:39:24 AM
I don't know what you read but your response makes little sense.  I didn't say fans use zero electricity.  I simply stated you don't need AC which is extremely expensive if you plan to cool a sealed room of these miners.  All you need, even in a hotter climate, is good airflow from a decent quality exhaust fan or similar.

I am glad you posted, that is good information. I am in Texas as well and was planning to cool the cold side of a 40-60 miner setup (to start) in a 1,000 sq/ft warehouse. Do you have your miners set up that way or are they open with just good exhaust fans?
466  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Whistling sound from the latest batch of S9's on: January 11, 2018, 01:35:45 AM
Yeah my Jan batch S9 sounds distinctly different from the Dec batch. I'll check on the fan brand.
467  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: My APW3++ is pulling 1500watts on 110v on: January 10, 2018, 12:39:34 AM
Hey guys, I bought an APW3++ to power my S9 and then realized that on a 110v it should only do 1200w, which isn't enough to power the S9.

As a test though, I hooked it up and powered it on connected to my Kill-A-Watt and it shows that it's pulling 1500 watts connected to my 110v outlet.

Kill-A-Watt shows:
13.05 amps,
115 volts, 
1511 watts

Is this expected? According to the docs it should only pull 1200 watts.   With the PSU pulling 1500w to power it, do I have any issues to worry about?

Thanks!

What amp circuit is that 110v outlet on?
468  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: January 09, 2018, 10:15:37 PM
Is 5 pm gmt+8 equal to 1 am central?

   that sale already happened this morning at 4am EST or 3am CMT

I think so, my Telegram was blowing up early this morning, but I had my phone on Nighttime Mode Sad
469  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order on: January 09, 2018, 10:13:37 PM
Is 5 pm gmt+8 equal to 1 am central?

Looks like 3AM

http://www.timebie.com/tz/timediff.php?q1=Central%20Daylight%20Time&q2=GMT%20+8%20Time

470  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Free Electricity but very poor internet. on: January 09, 2018, 08:51:59 PM
The electricity is free as I am on a peak shaving facility and there is a constant stable energy produced which is only used if required and otherwise dispersed by a heat/condensate cycle.

Is that similar to an oceanic oil rig?
471  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S9 Solo troubleshooting on: January 09, 2018, 01:33:56 AM
And do away with the junk surge protector.
472  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolinminer & Whatsminer FAQs on: January 08, 2018, 10:29:39 PM
For me it was 2 M3's for $3798.00 shipped with PSUs. They will be here ~ end of Feb. At the time I ordered the M3s S9s were not in stock. When they did become available it was $2320 + shipping + PSU $105 + shipping since they do not bundle and delivered end of March.

Easy decision for me.
473  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Building Server Room in Garage on: January 08, 2018, 09:55:17 PM
Yeah separating the two sides is the only way to go. And again you only want to cool the smallest area possible. I am in Texas so come this summer I will feel your pain. **But** it's more important to get rid of that waste heat than it is to spend a ton of money and try to cool everything to silly low temps. I imagine 70-75F inlet would be OK. At least that's what I am going to shoot for on my cold side.
474  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Building Server Room in Garage on: January 08, 2018, 08:26:24 PM
If it were me I'd create a hot side and cold side and not rely on the associated fans sucking in or pulling out air. You'll also greatly reduce the amount of area you are cooling.

So basically, like mentioned, seal off the front of the units so they are only pulling in cooled air. Then their waste heat is isolated from that cooled air and can be evacuated via your fans.

Also, some questions:

How many miners do you plan to run? I see 6 S9s, missed that. I'd run 3 per 30A. You'll need to find out the current your GPU rigs are pulling. Remember, only run 80% of a circuits capacity.
What CFM fans do you plan to run to exhaust the heat?
What type of cooling are you going to run?
475  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Pangolinminer & Whatsminer FAQs on: January 08, 2018, 08:14:20 PM
If you don't like it, simple solution is to use an extension or write a script that posts the form data automatically and non-stop until successful.

I doubt if a person can't clear a cache, they could pull this off. The website could be better, but it works good enough that my orders went through,
as well as many others. There are some tricks and tips to make it easier, but some people are too impatient to try. EVERYONE here that ordered
had to deal with it, and I'm sure many will be returning customers. Hell, they didn't even have the countdown when I ordered. I had to stay up for 24hrs
and keep refreshing the page!!!

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Chances are multiple people are already doing that and that's why it's difficult to order.

And that's why it's like a race. If you're determined enough, you can win!!!

Are people not bothered that these are not as efficient as the S9?

For me it's simple economics, yes it's not as efficient, but is quite a bit cheaper than the current S9 offering. I also get them a month sooner, at least at the time I ordered.
476  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [FS] All aluminum open-air frame for ONDA B250 motherboard (8 GPU) on: January 07, 2018, 08:03:22 PM
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Well, here's a model for one PSU (mounted near the IO area).



Another area to mount a second PSU could be added to the other/nearest side of the frame.  Or, for others reading this, no areas to mount PSUs is also a possibility.   Wink


What would pricing be for the model pictured and the 2 PSU setup? Sorry for 20 questions, just trying to get my budget finalized.
477  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: A smart plug with power meter? on: January 07, 2018, 07:49:47 PM
I love the form factor and LED ring of the Fibaro Smart Plug!

Not a fan of the Z Wave setup, though. Do you happen to know if the WiFi version works properly with an Android app?



Raymond_B> Since we're only speaking about the plug, I'd prefer to avoid debating about my hardware  Wink

No debating at all, but I do not believe most of the little Z-Wave or wifi "smart" plugs do 220V **or** handle the amp draw of an ASIC miner on 110V. So again, the placement of your post is important. But I am new and maybe I do not understand the rules Smiley
I'm on 230 AC, these plugs accept generally north of 2500W.

Now, if we could stop the off topic and speak smart plugs...

Fair enough, my apologies!
478  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: A smart plug with power meter? on: January 07, 2018, 06:50:09 PM
I love the form factor and LED ring of the Fibaro Smart Plug!

Not a fan of the Z Wave setup, though. Do you happen to know if the WiFi version works properly with an Android app?



Raymond_B> Since we're only speaking about the plug, I'd prefer to avoid debating about my hardware  Wink

No debating at all, but I do not believe most of the little Z-Wave or wifi "smart" plugs do 220V **or** handle the amp draw of an ASIC miner on 110V. So again, the placement of your post is important. But I am new and maybe I do not understand the rules Smiley
479  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: A smart plug with power meter? on: January 07, 2018, 06:24:56 PM
Still in my quest for a remote-maintenance solution.

I'm looking for a way to start & stop my rig remotely as well as measure its power consumption.

I figured the easiest would be via a smart plug. I do already own a Wemo Insight but I wouldn't call it reliable, mainly because its app sucks ass.


Is anyone using a solution they're happy with?

Probably best to define what your "rig" is. Because this is the Bitcoin area I am ASSuming you mean an ASIC miner. If that's the case then I would run a "smart" PDU, you can get them in several different variants that meter, switch, and a combination of the two.

480  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: Antminer configuration page. HELP! on: January 07, 2018, 06:20:05 PM
Hello guys, I can't access the configuration page of my Antminer on my PC which is connected to the router with a LAN cable, but I can access it through WiFi with my phone which is connected to the same router.

Is your Miner DHCP? Do you have the same IP range for both your wired and wireless networks? Make sure your PC is pointing to the correct IP, compare what it is on your phone vs what your PC thinks it is.
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