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461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 06:31:21 PM
we will re-evaluate tomorrow.... 40% has upgraded.

we cannot push another update round really

462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 04:19:39 PM
hashcows was very cooperative.

463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 04:17:24 PM
apparently there is another multipool

or...  huge hashers
464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 04:06:02 PM
but it is only 5ghash/21 they would have pointed.

so i think this thing works and i am going to continue cooperation.



yep... a difficulty of 100 is very workable to sustain the price of 20.. just need to get there..

We do want network hash/difficulty to be high enough that price stays viable... but not to high that every1 will stop mining...


that was the intention yes
465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 03:59:29 PM
but it is only 5ghash/21 they would have pointed.

so i think this thing works and i am going to continue cooperation.

466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 03:54:26 PM
well there are the multipools...

467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 03:32:56 PM
thats why i wanted to wait guys... i can sustain this, i think, for max 48-72 hours.

sometimes pushing out more updates is not the solution.

468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
soon there... lets c if the deals we made actually do something.


469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 02:13:47 PM
ppl upgrade... it still stuck @ +- 30%

do the gravity 2 fix.



when you have too little upgrades within a few days you might want to ask the biggest pools to change ports so people are forced to look into the pool when they cannot mine, where you can display a message to upgrade the wallet. I mean this as a last resort.


all large players have been upgraded... non update would mean you get an update message @ 21203.. and your wallet wont function anymore.

its just beneficial to yourself to update.

and to spare this thread of the "support" questions.

we have announced it through all channels.

little more we can do.

the old wallets will have problems since getnextworkrequired is not in line with the situation of the large players ( exchanges, seednodes, pools and multipools )
470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 02:07:37 PM
ppl upgrade... it still stuck @ +- 30%

do the gravity 2 fix.

471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 01:04:23 PM
Never rush these things... a fork will really do much more damage to the coin then an extra few days.

We'll see the diff after the easy block, calculate to take the weekend into account - as the dev rightly noticed - so that the update lands monday/tuesday ?

I'm in it for the long haul anyway, Leaf a has a bright future.

lands on tuesday is my preference.....

also i created a program to check wallet version of ip.

i will extend the update ( if we do it ) to include the version in the irc name as well.

that as backup... if the primary method doesnt work.

so now i am going to continue foundation...

i will be here again in a few,...
472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 12:59:12 PM
Never rush these things... a fork will really do much more damage to the coin then an extra few days.

agree, thats why we set the block to 21203.
473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 12:46:44 PM
if we update we will do a special kind of giveaway.

i can see what ip is at what version.

so by upgrading i can reward ppl.

just give ip, i check on version.. if right version -> payment.

lot of work. but will work.


That's brilliant idea, this I think is the way if we go with gravity 3 after next easy set of blocks.

So I see it that way:

1) Check the diff swing on the next set of blocks

2) If swings, rollout quickest gravity 3 update

3) Encourage upgrade by giveaway

4) Announce giveaway on 1/2 pools for people who mine the last hard block before gravity.



only one problem remains: the weekend.

we dont want the exchanges to be detached.

aka to fork.

so blocknumber needs to absolutely right this time.

474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 12:37:42 PM
if we update we will do a special kind of giveaway.

i can see what ip is at what version.

so by upgrading i can reward ppl.

just give ip, i check on version.. if right version -> payment.

lot of work. but will work.

will make a quick program for this.
475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 12:26:13 PM
Cant roll out another update before people have even done this one.  It will just get confusing with the number of updates being pushed out, some exchanges may even get sick of all the updates and drop the coin.

There will be a period of time when the diff swings slow the coin for a while, but long term it will resolve the issues.  So, people taking the short term view may get burned, people taking the long term view may see rewards.  Thats my opinion, but just as long as there remains enough support to pull this through the next high diff after the next multipool jump in.

People can see when gravity is coming, so as long as there are enough people keeping a bit of hash rate pointed at the coin, all will work out eventually.  Pushing out too many updates has just as much pottential to kill a coin as the multipools.

i agree with this as well.

i have the option to hold middlecoin completely off for 1  day.

if there is no other way.

476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 12:16:59 PM
i have noted that blocknumber down.....

block options are

19763
19238
18758

the blocks are located in slow periods... @ about half the retargetspan

lets first see what happens in 3 hours.

thanks
477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 12:09:47 PM
would you be able to push a network message to all wallets ?

havent done it before... need to look.

so i will put the foundation on hold and do once more an update

give me a blocknumber

but we will wait to see what happens in 3 hours.

if its not satisfying.. we will push out one more time.

agreed?

and i will look into the network push message.



Totally agree, let's wait for next diff and decide Dev. But please implement before block 18240 (next re-target at 18000 and 18240).

i looked into the upgrade message.  its only shown when an invalid chain is found ( invalid proof of work )

printf("InvalidChainFound: Warning: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade.\n");

so its kinda automatic @ block 21203... i couldnt find a way to push a message out. only thing i can do is provide future support on this. but then again... another update would be needed ( but that doesnt affect clients on current grav-2 version.. its just a program update.. no proofofwork/diff update ).

setting it at 18240 is WAY too risky... we have a very good chance of a fork. thats more ugly then just wait for kgw to kick in.

everyone has to update.. setting it at that block... would give them merely a day.

also take the weekend into account.

i dont think we should do that.

we have chosen block 21203 for a reason... allowing 7-10 days to upgrade.

if we make a change... it would have to be at least block 20k

478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 11:50:23 AM
would you be able to push a network message to all wallets ?

havent done it before... need to look.

so i will put the foundation on hold and do once more an update

give me a blocknumber

we will wait to see what happens in 3 hours ( pool agreement ).

if its not satisfying.. we will push out one more time.

agreed?

and i will look into the network push message.


479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 11:45:45 AM
so do another update round? ppl dont upgrade.... we have to give time for them to update. Also i want to see what happens now...
480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LEAF] LEAFCOIN - IMPLEMENTED GRAVITY 2 - PLEASE UPDATE on: February 07, 2014, 11:33:21 AM
cryptsy down again...
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