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461  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 11, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
The dev should be going through his house finding anything possible to put on there and sell. Start getting the fucker filled up. All you guys too.

Sling will never reach 1 dollar and no one will use the market
killacam8888 will never make up his mind and no one will listen to him.

462  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 11, 2015, 01:55:06 PM
I have an Iphone 5s and 5c I want to sell on slingroad but im still not sure how it works, and we get a video tutorial on how to list and escrow and what not? Or maybe a newbie walkthrough guide of some sorts? Thanks in advance

I like writing guides,  but I can't even use the latest client yet because of no linux qt version.

Maybe someone on windows can for now..

463  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 11, 2015, 11:42:26 AM
The dev should be going through his house finding anything possible to put on there and sell. Start getting the fucker filled up. All you guys too.

I would start listing a bunch of stuff, but I wish I could use a linux qt version and/or compile from source Sad

Maybe dev has his reasons for not releasing source yet,  which I can understand.  I hope someday it arrives though.

Plus I might wait for I2P, which sounds like its coming soon
464  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 08:38:34 PM

I2P coming this week.

Hell yes !!!  

You rock man !!!    Awesome !!

 Grin

I hope you're having a great weekend!


Edit I just saw this too:

Might be a good idea if I add a "cancel" button that spends the inputs so you don't have to manually recover them should the buyer/seller not complete the escrow lock.


Another great thing  !!!!!!



465  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 05:21:23 PM
Some thoughts on escrow:

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Notes on Escrow and Reputation

Choice of Two Party Escrow
To appreciate the value of the two party escrow system and why it is so important for secure, private and middle men free exchange, it is worth considering problems with the traditional approach of using a 3rd party escrow agent.

In a third party escrow system the buyer and seller ask a third trusted party (an escrow agent) to receive payment from the buyer before the item is delivered and to then release the payment to the seller after the item is delivered. If there is a dispute about the quality of the item or whether it was delivered, the third party acts as a mediator and decides whether to send the payment or refund the buyer. Some of the problems with this model include:

  •     Unless escrow agent receives the item before forwarding it to the buyer and has the expertise to verify the quality of the item, they have no means of fairly mediating a dispute. This problem becomes much worse when services are being exchanged. Proof of package delivery doesn't verify what was delivered or it's quality and photos from the buyer could be of another item, etc.
  •     Credit cards and centralized marketplaces seem like existence proofs of working escrow agents but they are non-anonymous, do not resolve disputes fairly (as most small merchants can tell you) and are known to break in markets with high fraud potential (e.g. third world countries, porn, etc).
  •     Untrustworthy escrow agents who may steal escrow, fail to release escrow or collude with (or be) one of the parties.
  •     Escrow agents with strong reputation may be doing a long con to take off with or extort a large payment or group of payments.
  •     Escrow agent expenses in the form of labor and risk are passed on to the buyer and seller.
  •     Finding a trustworthy agent requires a reputation system and building reputation systems in anonymous networks remains an unsolved problem

Fortunately, two party escrow made possible by Sling's multi-signature transactions can solve all of these problems.

 
466  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 03:27:10 PM
GOD DAMN IT I GIVE UP I LOVE SLING


JUST SELL IT SO I CAN BUY MORE AT 12 CENTS FUCK THIS BULLSHIT STOP RISING



467  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 02:41:37 PM
It should be auto released if one party didn't put up the funds after a period of time.

I don't understand why you have such a difficult time understanding unless you're just trolling  Undecided



I am trolling? WTF?
i just want to know can you tell me how long the expiry, instead of period of time:)


I wish the dev would come around to answer you or provide more information on how escrowing works in sling.

Since he mentioned he worked off the bitmarket workflow...  it *might* be similar to how bitmarket does it :

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Escrow Lock
When the seller approves the purchase, the seller's client constructs the first part of the escrow lock transaction which contains their security deposit and sends this to the buyer's client. The buyer's client then adds their own Sling inputs for payment and the buyer's deposit, signs the transaction and sends it to the seller to sign and broadcast the completed transaction to the Sling network.

Neither party's funds are locked (unavailable for spending) until the transaction is submitted to the Sling network. If either party fails to complete the escrow message exchange or submit the completed escrow to the Sling network, either can cancel the escrow by sending their own Sling inputs for the transaction to another address they own. Cancellation is only possible if the completed escrow transaction has not been sent to the Sling network first.

468  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 01:19:59 PM
And good point brought up ...  where the hell is the dev ? ? ?

 Angry

Still waiting for a linux sling-qt !!!!   Or at least source !!




469  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 01:15:18 PM
It should be auto released if one party didn't put up the funds after a period of time.

I don't understand why you have such a difficult time understanding unless your just trolling  Undecided

Explain to me why a seller would have to put anything up besides a small fee?
The seller actually doesn't pay anything he just supplies the same amount as the buyer so that the transaction will get confirmed. After both parties have supplied to the escrow, the seller will get his supplied funds back.

Yes exactly and if the buyer doesn't put up the funds,  the seller should get the funds back auto-released after an expired time period.

470  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 01:12:08 PM
It should be auto released if one party didn't put up the funds after a period of time.

I don't understand why you have such a difficult time understanding unless your just trolling  Undecided

Explain to me why a seller would have to put anything up besides a small fee?

Because you're both entering into a contract or agreement,  you both have something to lose if you both don't fullfill your end of the bargain.

Here, I have to explain to you like you're a two year old? 

Seller has to sell something and send it,  and buyer has to pay for it. 

Two things that have to be upheld.   It is a mutual agreement.

471  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 01:09:00 PM
It should be auto released if one party didn't put up the funds after a period of time.

I don't understand why you have such a difficult time understanding unless you're just trolling  Undecided

472  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 11:48:07 AM
The control is built-in.  

Both parties make a deposit and it only gets released when both parties decide.

Simple as that.

You don't need some other (possible scammer) in the mix (3rd party).

Crave does have its other uses though, and I'm in / watching that too.


what will happen to my funds now 1050 Sling is at Escrow.. looks like the buyer ain't paying maybe it was test buy:)
who knows.. i can't seem to cancel the order of get my Slings back? what can i do Dev?

Since there is no linux qt yet,  I can't even test the wallet.

I'm assuming the buyer had to put up the same amount..  if neither pays/releases you both lose out.
At least that's how I understand things should work.

You should have communicated with the buyer before putting up that much coin.  
Contact the buyer via the built in messaging,  if they don't respond .. I hope both buyer and seller learned a lesson.

They both should lose out if things don't go as planned,  that's fair and how the system should work!

Its funny that's how things usually work out in life too -
example: if you go to a court case,  it costs both parties attorney fees and both usually end up feeling like they got screwed lol Smiley


473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 03:50:11 AM
My client won't sync. Any help?


These can be added to a .conf file in the %appdata%roaming Sling folder or they can be added via the rpc console.

Code:
addnode=85.214.153.21:62741
addnode=108.250.162.155:56601
addnode=198.199.102.165:36296
addnode=86.184.152.123:30137
addnode=192.99.0.112:47933
addnode=67.215.12.46:38524
addnode=45.55.248.152:52157
addnode=74.120.220.250:37717
addnode=101.165.65.58:30137
addnode=120.146.238.104:50563
addnode=195.154.146.221:45765
addnode=131.72.138.250:41757
addnode=75.130.163.51:54260
addnode=94.226.187.230:65046
addnode=73.142.206.88:30137
addnode=135.23.141.125:64607
addnode=120.25.202.102:30137
addnode=12.39.176.125:30137
addnode=69.243.176.208:33104
addnode=76.21.127.86:30137
addnode=85.25.214.175:30137
addnode=178.33.126.221:30137
addnode=137.135.57.119:2600
addnode=62.210.5.167:37621
addnode=146.0.32.101:52124
474  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 03:35:47 AM
Why would you want torrenting built in with a wallet..

Sounds like just a gimmicky excuse to add an unnecessary/redundant feature.

475  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 03:30:25 AM
The control is built-in. 

Both parties make a deposit and it only gets released when both parties decide.

Simple as that.

You don't need some other (possible scammer) in the mix (3rd party).

Crave does have its other uses though, and I'm in / watching that too.



476  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 01:45:02 AM
If you set aside the pump and dump profit trading monetization thing in alts, what really matters is that we keep building on and enhancing the work and contributing and evolving more and more tech.  Because this stuff is important, and it will change the world one day, irrespective of speculative pricing.

Yes if you concentrate on the tech, usefulness, simplicity(for users ease of use) and ability to adapt to emerging markets/needs = lasting value will come from that,  rather than these quick pumps.

477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 10, 2015, 12:57:51 AM
I'm guessing they didn't want to release the source & linux qt yet,  possibly till other coins release theirs?

Which is actually a smart thing.


478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 09, 2015, 11:07:14 PM
Where is the linux qt wallet ? ? 

I want to try the new version
479  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 09, 2015, 11:05:25 PM
If I remember correctly the dev said something about I2P not to long back, if he integrates that will we be able to choose to either use TOR or I2P while using the market?  Shocked
This project is crazy!!!!!!!!

Yep pookie, just copy&paste it from crave

And it looks like crave borrowed from anoncoin with that Tongue

480  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SLING | Masternodes | ANON | Android | Encrypted Messaging | SLINGROAD on: May 09, 2015, 10:48:44 PM
Where is the linux sling-qt version ? ?   I only see the slingd daemon for latest version.

Will it be released soon? ?

I could care less about trading coins,  I just want to use this !!!! 

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