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461  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Next generations on bitcoin on: December 19, 2022, 08:31:53 PM
I don't think a fork is possible since forks must happen within the current chain of the original crypto. I don't need to tell you how hard that was to do with bitcoin considering its creator is nowhere to be found. And a couple of people here were right too, just because a coin is called bitcoin doesn't make it any valuable. The plethora of subpar "bitcoin derivatives" we have as of the moment is enough evidence for this. Moving forward, there's still a promise of transactability in the near 50-100 years even if all bitcoins were to be mined and purchaded already, so a fork isn't really necessary.
We had bitcoin cash and bitcoin SV as the biggest two examples and we have seen how they did, as we can see that it wasn't really that easy to handle all of it and I have to say it's not going to be that much of a big deal for the future neither. I know that some people may want to make sure that it works very well for the long term, but it's to going to happen.

I believe the biggest way to make some money would be just focusing on moving all the money and things their parents leave to them and move it to crypto, instead of having traditional stuff. My wife has family networth, it's nothing good to us right now because her family is alive, but in the future I would 100% support her to sell all those things and put them on bitcoin for example.
462  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 19, 2022, 05:01:33 PM
Juventus have had big financial problems after signing Cristiano Ronaldo for a big amount of money. The transfer fee + his contract were really heavy for the team and it seems like they are still unable to make their finance fine now. One of the reasons playing role in this crisis situation must be this. Even Ronaldo's arrival didn't change much thing for Juventus about their successes in fact. Because some time later they started to be in big trouble in the Serie A despite Ronaldo's big effort.

Therefore this might be one of the biggest mistakes Juventus have done so far. However hopefully they will leave these bad days also behind. I hope they learn their lesson this time.
They actually transferred Ronaldo in a productive age. He has contributed a lot to Juventus. Still, yes, if you are not a team with economic freedom like Paris, Ronaldo's contract can put you in such a serious crisis. Add to that the unexpected setbacks, and the worst case scenario for Juventus came true. Gradually the team began to recover. I am sure that they will be able to transfer more carefully now that their economic power is established.
I do agree that Juventus took some advantages from Ronaldo but also lets remember that it was with Ronaldo that they first lost their championship after a whole lot of years. I personally believe that Ronaldo is not really good for any team anymore, he is a great player don't get me wrong but it would be a long term suicide if you get a player that old, and not going to like give him 5 million neither, this is a player that gets so much money so why pay that much to an old player when you can get younger potential stars with the same amount of money.

It's not just about talent, Ronaldo could come in and play amazingly for a whole season, that's not the point, but he is too expensive for that age, age is the issue.
463  Economy / Economics / Re: Only one way to save people now on: December 19, 2022, 09:09:10 AM
Crypto is only way not CBDC but btc and USDT nobody actualyy don't want anything from bankers anymore.
People Will use btc and USDT
After lots of people's opinion on CBDC, I started to agree that fiats and CBDC are same so trusting into CBDC after the failures of fiats might get us into deeper trouble than before. Still, I am not ready to go adapting usdt for any kind of usecase. I mean that I agree bitcoin could be only way to save people against inflation but not with usdt.

We use or not, fiats are going to stay as part of our economy but not believing into it for 100% will help us to protect against inflation. I guess in near future few more governments will declare about adapting bitcoin fully or part of their legal tender system then migrating to such country may help anyone to leave of fiats completely.
464  Economy / Economics / Re: Fiat and crypto and stock is bs, but property is real on: December 19, 2022, 08:18:53 AM
we do have different investment preferences. Some made fortune out of gambling, some made it out from real estate, and for sure there are also people who became millionaires in this industry. These people exist but that does not guarantee that same thing could happen to anyone.
Yeah, this is the reason that we cannot copy the exact success formula of others. Basically, these days, you must be needing multiple income stream to sustain financially stronger. So, just believing into only crypto or only stocks will disappoint in the end. So, we need crypto investments, we need stocks and we need real-estate as well. This is how risk distribution works for achieving financial stability. Still, I have my saving and investment in major share in bitcoin and then in some altcoins and finally in gold and for real estate I am still planning up.
465  Economy / Gambling / Re: Stake.com - The Leading Crypto Casino - 🦉 Drake, UFC, Everton Main Partner ⚽ 🥊 on: December 18, 2022, 08:42:00 PM
That Drake stream is a mess.
Well, at least he has won Eddie for the first time.. because he came up $2 000 000 up at the end. I also think the rewards for the Top 10 000 was a bit unfair.... some people waited until the early hours of the morning to watch his stream ..and I think they deserve a little bonus too.

A lot of people says it is boring ... but I think, just watching him putting "life changing" money on one bet, is something to behold. In any way.... Thanks Drake and the Stake community....for hosting this.  Grin
That is the difference maker for many people who watched him. If you want to see something chaotic then you are not going to enjoy the stream, Drake has like a bet that he does and then he keeps on betting the same thing over and over again, if you do not find the amount entertaining part then you are not going to like it.

But, I personally loved the fact that he went up 10 million profit and lost 8 million of that and got out with 2 million in profit at the same time. That is not normal, that amount of money is literally retirement amount of money for most people and this dude is gambling it. His single bet would make be a wealthy man in my nation, how could I not enjoy that?
466  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 18, 2022, 08:19:42 PM
In the 2020/2021 season, Atletico were champions, in the 2021/2022 season they entered the top three after Real and Barcelona, and this season they are only two points apart from third place, and it will not be difficult for them to reduce this gap. So I don't understand what you are talking about, what do you think is wrong with Atletico, they achieve everything you said, and apparently Semione is doing his job well since he is still in his post. With the funding that is available to him, the results can be said to be excellent.
Some fans just want to see their teams be champions back to back and constantly. It looks like the trajectory is not like that but down. First they were champions, then they were third, and now they are not even that even if they are close. This means if they finish fourth or lower that is a trajectory that shows worsening, like what if this year they are fourth and next year fifth? Will we wait for them to just get better?

Or just give them credit because they were champions a year before? Of course not, that is not going to be acceptable and that is why I believe that some fans want some changes that will take the team to a better place all over again.
467  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: December 18, 2022, 05:02:52 PM
I think that in this case an injury is not something that is difficult for Bayern to overcome, especially now that they are also preparing to look for options when Neuer is confirmed to be out for the next 3 months.
The problem in the Bundesliga actually lies not in injuries or anything, but in fact it is the differences in the strength of the clubs that have an effect.
Currently Bayern is always on top and that is quite natural because they are at a different level so it is very difficult for other clubs to balance their dominance so inevitably the hegemony will continue.
It is obvious that we are going to end up seeing Bayern eventually start looking not just a replacement for time being, but a long term replacement as well. They probably had some players in mind before and they will look to get those younger players now.

This way not only those goalkeepers will play until Neuer is back, but also they could play together with Neuer when he comes back and learn from him and then they would just bench Neuer and use the younger one. Look at PSG, did they use donnaruma as soon as he got in? Of course not, they kept Navas in for a long time and gradually and slowly replaced him with donnaruma, same logic could happen here.
468  Economy / Economics / Re: EU solution to energy crisis: print more money and ensure economic crisis! on: December 17, 2022, 08:39:02 PM
It is true that money printing doesn't really help with economy, but if you truly believe that you should not work with Russia and also go with Clean energy at the same time for better world in the future, you have to go through some terrible times. That is the problem, like when my nation was first freed and founded, we had to go through horrible times, our parents and so forth all lived through hell, it was disgusting conditions, and there are even some who live like that now, but thanks to those horrible times, the future was better and we are living better.

If EU wants clean world, they have to live through hell a bit, and their "hell" is our best citizens, even the unemployed person in Germany lives a better life than most people here.
469  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2022/23 on: December 17, 2022, 07:49:10 PM
From the teams that are residing in Europa League the only one I fear for Barcelona is Arsenal and no other teams,every other team is in the reach of Barcelona to win the games and progress further.Juventus is not in their top form,Manchester United has shown a lot of inconsistency during their game in Europa League and the only one team who has done well both there and in their local Premier League is Arsenal.In fact I predict a final between them and Barcelona and we will see a beautiful final here different from other times where not such strong teams have been on the final in Europa League.
I do believe the same thing, however if United beats Barcelona then it would not be a shock to the world, Ronaldo is gone which means they do not have any internal turmoil and they will just focus on the future with the players they have and should be good to watch.

I know they were inconsistent so far and Arsenal looks better, but that doesn't mean that in a 2 game elimination United would be just accepting defeat, they will fight hard. In the long run Barcelona looked better than all teams last year as well but they ended up with a shocking defeat, there is no reason that same thing can't happen this year as well, will be terrible for them if it happens.
470  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Accumulation phase is out!? on: December 17, 2022, 03:34:19 PM
this bearish or sideways situation will still occur in Q1 and make the price decline deeper. Maybe making a short term plan will provide a solution for us to decide so we won't be affected by what will happen in the market. And maybe the last weeks of this year will make the market fluctuate more so we can feel the surprises we never expected. We can only be prepared for everything that will happen and remember to prepare fiat to buy bitcoins.
Yeah, we cannot do anything about the market conditions which is the reason why we need to follow DCA. Keep buying regardless of where bitcoin market is trading will help anyone to get better returns over the times. Some people do stop investing with bitcoins when they do find prices are trading higher than their expected prices (in bullish trend) but in my opinion, we should keep sticking with original plans and same applies even in bearish market as well.

So, unlike OP pointed out, the current bearish market alone not a accumulation phase but we should keep buying from here after until a new ATH in 2025. Then we may take a break in 2026 which might be another bearish trend like 2018 and 2022.
471  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Too much uncertanity here it got be more sure here what i say on: December 17, 2022, 07:17:04 AM
I assume OP doesn't initiate us to beat the whales, but the OP reminds us not to be affected by whales. In my opinion, it is almost impossible to beat whales since we have no power to beat them. What we can do is to be patient and not affected, we know the dump made by the whales won't last a long time, it is only temporarily. If there are too many bad news and the price continous to dump, we can suspect this maye be the manipulation made by the whales.
Whales are here from the beginning of bitcoin markets and they do continue their manipulations still we do see lots of small investors also making huge profits out of bitcoin investments but the way you suggested here. Yeah, we cannot do anything against someone who got power to alter the direction of market but we can protect ourselves just by being long term investors by making use of all dips.

In my opinion, whales are needed for beginners of bitcoin investment. Because, whales only created dips which are very good opportunity for newbies to accumulate some bitcoins at cheaper rates. So, let whales do their jobs and we must plan up as per what would be beneficial to us; bothering whales will not bring anything good.
472  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 16, 2022, 08:18:11 PM
In order to make the Europa League attractive, it shows up in the Champions League, which is the champion of the Europa League, apart from that, there is nothing attractive for big clubs. In addition, big clubs are already participating in the Champions League by becoming champions in their own leagues or by entering the top 3-4. The Europa league and the later conference league (formerly the cup winners' cup) is an attractive destination for medium-sized and small cubes in Europe. If these tournaments had bigger sponsors and bigger prizes, I'm sure the big teams that were eliminated from the Champions League would fight here as well. Football is no longer entertainment, it's a big economy for clubs and countries.
Considering there are many clubs whose entire roster cost about 10-20 million, it is important to note that being at a good stage in europa or conference cup would be a great big deal for them. They could make millions, and spending millions to get better.

Look at Sherrif and last year and also this year, they were already good in their own league, and they made so much money in the past 2 years that I am pretty sure they will stay the best team of their nation for a long time thanks to all that money unless they spend it on players turn out to be horrible. Maybe big clubs do not care, but smaller clubs do. Big clubs only would want to win if they are there because they like winning, not because of money or fame or anything, but winning is the aim after all.
473  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What will be the next crypto craze? on: December 16, 2022, 07:04:04 PM
Many are optimistic that the crypto project that will be successful after the NFT is Metaverse, unfortunately the market is currently red and makes many metaverse projects that look very slow or even fail, we are waiting when the market rising whether metaverse can prove to be a driver of market conditions to skyrocket again.
Since the Metaverse has gained support from big-time companies out there, they still need to prove that they really have working products for the people to trust them and invest in them because if they only create something similar to what we already have right now and will gonna delay any development and updates about their project, then it would be nice to stay away from it and just focus on Bitcoins and any other project that are really working hard to make differences and innovate their project to boost their sales and protect their investors through liquidity and multiple sales.
I do agree that metaverse and NFT world is not fully gone, and it may end up with something proper. Like imagine building a second world where you would own stuff via NFT, houses, cars, items, and then you use them the way you want.

Imagine even if the graphics is as good as GTA, but then you would have a huge map where everything is ownable, maybe at first you do not have to be able to get in everywhere, but you would have to at least have some "same" house, where everyone who goes into their homes, go into the same home design, all the same, just owned by different people, and have benefits. People could literally live there and that's amazing for sure.
474  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 15, 2022, 09:31:50 PM
Unfortunately, the big teams of Europe's big leagues do not think much about the Europa League. In fact, most of the Premier league teams do not care about the Europa League. Because the incomes are not as high as in the Champions League. That's why I think Barcelona's priority this year is La Liga. I don't think you can beat Real Madrid in La Liga either. Barcelona is currently in the restructuring phase. He is establishing a team that will mark the coming years and he needs time for this.
Not every team, but some teams do. I mean if you are not a team at the top 4, then you have to go to Europa. Like for example United is there right now, do you really think that United would not want to win it? Of course they would love to win it because that means some money. This isn't about preference but more about what you are forced to do.

If you can win UCL then you would love to, but if you can't because you dropped to Europa then you dropped to Europa and there is nothing else to do about it. I personally would love to just watch United win it to be fair, and that would be something every United fan would be cheering about and would be better for next year.
475  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: December 15, 2022, 08:49:35 PM
I dont mind if someone pumps or alters the FUN price like that, its clear it would be easy to trade it.   I got enough spare to sell at those prices and benefit because its not really reflecting the proper average pricing I know I can just buy them back cheaper not very long after, an easy profit.
  Stuff like this happens in real options trading, they pin the price to the most beneficial expiry however I dont think the bet volume for this particular contest is enough money to justify that kind of activity and it would just end up being a gift to every available seller.
I do agree that the price moves do not really matter to any long term investor. I bought FUN tokens not because I wanted to make a quick buck, I did it because I have been using this website for nearly a decade soon, and I remember the periods where they had ads everywhere, so I can say that if they do something then I am part of it, I will always be.

Now, I am part of fun token, if they create something else then I will be part of that. It would have been easier and better if they created their own token instead of taking over another one, but that's fine too. So if the price moves, I am fine, sell some, buy some, it will just go on for a long time for me anyway, many years.
476  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: December 14, 2022, 05:04:51 PM
there are still a few games left this season and we don't know if they can maintain their position at the top of the standings, although it might be difficult for the teams below them to catch Napoli but don't be happy just yet because we don't know if Napoli are still playing consistently well
A few? there are still lots of games to come soon. Napoli will have a very long time to go to defend its position. It's currently at the top of standing with huge gap to the second place which owned by ac milan. The problem may occur once some players of napol leave from the club.
There are lots of rumours about some players that potentially out from napoli but these rumours have not yet confirmed caused by napoli has not released any statement regarding the transfer for its players. I can hope only napoli will try to defend its players from another club.
That will make napoli can still continue the positive trend in italian league.
Maybe it doesn't look like it will be easy, but I think it will not be that hard neither. Lets see how it will be but I personally believe that the best thing to come out of this would be a Napoli championship.

Any team that wins too many in a row is a trouble, Juventus already won too much, Milan got it last year, either Inter or Napoli should win if you ask me, Inter already got it a year ago, so Napoli is best. Sure there are still plenty of games left to play but that doesn't mean Napoli will be suddenly a bad team, I feel like they are a good team and will stay a good team for a long time. They have build a good roster that should be good enough to get the title.
477  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: When devs don't even know what they are doing on: December 14, 2022, 02:25:30 PM
Can we say they don't know what they are doing? How can you name your project Bitcoin dot come and create token on Ethereum? I belief that Bitcoin dot come should have make their own bitcoin coin.
If I am able to recall correctly, bitcoin dot com was owned by BCH team (please correct me if I am wrong) but not sure on which token that you are referring to? They managed to add one more coin/token? I remember bitcoin got the development of having its own smart contract to issue token which will use bitcoin as gas for transacting but not sure about its implementation.

Do you mean if that bitcoin dot com needs any new token then they should issue within bitcoin ecosystem?
But, you need to remember that only bitcoin dot org is the official website of bitcoin and anyone may register bitcoin related domains like bitcoin.net or bitcoin.co.uk or anything similar to that which does not mean that they are all officially linked to bitcoin ecosystem but for some reasons (it can be for scamming purposes also) they have chosen bitcoin related domain hence we need to remain cautious when visiting a new domain, that's it.
478  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What will you do in this case? on: December 14, 2022, 01:01:52 PM
Is this a good reason to sell off your coins and replace with another that Alameda and FTX aren't involved? Pls drop your idea .

What will you do in this case?
Always the better idea must be not depending on a person or a company for the future of any cryptocurrency; since Elon Musk's explicit involvement into crypto space, I keep saying this. So, it would be a wise decision if you move into another coin is free from all kind of interruption of whales.

At this point I am accumulating KCS, WRX and waves; all these must be having strong future but right now trading bearish in recent times as per bitcoin sentiment hence this must be a great time to invest with. I am just stating what I doing but you must need to do your own due diligence before risking your funds. All the above bitcoin is trading at the best part of our life time, investing right now into bitcoin may not need any big analysis.
479  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League 2022/23 Season on: December 13, 2022, 09:15:34 PM
Arsenal need to activate an emergency option due to the injury that befell Gabriel Jesus, Arsenal must consider its transfer policy to recruit new players who play in the center forward position. Arsenal could have taken an internal solution by relying on Eddie Nketiah as the main striker to prevent the club's spending budget from swelling.

But Eddie Nketiah has a history of being prone to knee injuries, making Arteta in a dilemma with this condition. Arsenal management must immediately take action to solve problems in the attack line, Arteta needs to speed up plans to recruit strikers if Eddie Nketiah cannot be relied upon to replace Jesus.
I would guess that him being injury prone shouldn't matter for a short span of time. They need him until Jesus is back and that means if they could keep him uninjured just until Jesus comes back that should be fine, he could get hurt later on if he has to, but just need him healthy for a few months at tops I think, Jesus should be back after that.

I am guessing they are scrambling around to find a solution to their problem, they are doing so great so far and need to figure out a way to keep being great otherwise they will throw away a whole season where they are doing so greatly, which means it's not going to be that much of an easy thing to replace him.
480  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA World Cup 2022 Discussion Thread on: December 13, 2022, 06:50:31 PM
This is the most surprising world cup that I have ever watched, teams you never expect to perform well are the teams leading and making stars in this top teams to cry.  We still have more surprises to see in the quarter-finals,  no one knows what will be the result of the games.
The under rated nations have been showing their great performance during the world cup. That's just like morocco, japan and south korea which has been showing the good performance to beat some strong clubs. I think that we will see another surprise to come from morocco. It's caused by the performance against from strong nations already made people amazed with it. Ziyech has become the key player for morocco. It seems like he will become the key against france.
Maybe the underrated teams are not actually bad, but we just underrated them because of our ignorance towards them. I mean look at Morocco, they are at semi-finals and some of the odds showed them not even being able to go out of group stages possibly, and Germany didn't as well so that means nobody would have been shocked if Morocco didn't neither, and yet they are in semi-finals.

Does that mean they were bad and somehow won, or they were already good but we didn't know how good they were? Underrated is a good word, they are rated under who they are, but that's our mistake and not their achievement, they were already good, we just didn't know.
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