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461  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: apa rencana anda semua di 2018 dengan bitcoin yang anda punya? on: January 09, 2018, 07:22:11 AM
sore agan-agan baik mana harinya, apa yang kalian lakukan di tahun baru ini berinvestasi yang luas dengan menggunakan bitcoin agan-agan atau ada harapan yang lain gan semua.  Grin trmksh
ya ane sih tidak menyimpang dari tujuan awal saat mengakses bitcoin untuk investasi jadi ditahun kedepan ane akan terus berinvestasi dan mendpatkan tambahan penghasilan dan ane harap ditahun kedepan bitcoin semakin sukses dan besar di negara ini dengan besar dan suksesnya bitcoin tentu saja langkah menuju sukses investasi
462  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Keuntungan bitcoin di kenai pajak. on: January 08, 2018, 05:39:39 AM
http://m.liputan6.com/bisnis/read/3190361/untung-dari-transaksi-bitcoin-di-ri-anda-wajib-bayar-pajak

Kalo menurut saya ini berita baik untuk pengguna bitcoin.
Dengan adanya pajak buat bitcoiner, sepertinya pemerintah membiarkannya meskipun gak melegalkan.

Bagaimana menurut kalian.
mungkin itu langkah awal yang baik gan untuk perkembangan bitcoin di indonesia dengan adanya wajib pajak itu otomatis keamanan dan legalitas dari bitcoin semakin baik,untuk masalah membayar pajak ane kira tdk begitu memberatkan
463  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin will survive after 100 year ? on: January 08, 2018, 05:34:52 AM
I am asking this just to see the different opinions of Bitcoin community about its long term potential

I know Bitcoin is actually strong enough and stable as well

But what do you think about it after 100 years ?
I think you are too far away to think ahead with a period of 100 years, but I also hope bitcoin will be better and successful although until that time period must have become a successful millionaire by investing with bitcoin
464  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will you donate Bitcoin for the poor and needy? on: January 08, 2018, 01:07:16 AM
The point is to keep a bitcoin separately for donation to the poor. Donating a bitcoin directly will make sense if the receiver is aware of the functioning of bitcoin and Cryptocurrency. A poor and / or needy man can be sometimes an educated man or a knowledgeable man who is struggling to meet his ends. Bitcoin can otherwise be encashed and given to the poor.

It is always better to think big. I would rather create a trust or try to invest in healthcare or education of a poor child. All quick helps will not last long. Educating one child by spending a $25000 or more will reap great benefits to the society in comparison with feeding a whole lot of people once with the same money. Though it is not bad to feed but it is better to invest in a system that more than once continually feeds.

Yes I will donate Bitcoin to the poor and needy the way I feel is best useful for them. One percentage of the income can always be set aside for donation. After all, life is short and it is best to help as much as we can.
I think to donate with bitcoin directly for the time being in my country can not be done because it has not been officially opened by bitcoin government as official currency but donate with result obtained from investment in bitcoin i think i have done
465  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: pertumbuhan ekonomi indonesia on: January 07, 2018, 10:39:11 AM
beberapa hari yang lalu saya membaca bahwa pertumbuhan ekonomi indonesia di tahun 2017 naik sebesar 5,1%, dan itu meningkat 0,1 dari tahun kemarin. disamping itu juga pertumbuhan ekonomi indonesia masih tergantung kepada komoditas. sehingga diprediksi di tahun 2018 juga perekonomian indonesia akan lambat. jika terus seperti ini,sampai kapanpun indonesia akan menjadi negara berkembang.
nah, jika BTC diakui di indonesia dan dilegalkan , apakah akan membantu pertumbuhan ekonomi indonesia menjadi lebih baik. ?tolong jawabannya disertai alasan !
ane rasa kita tidak bisa hanya melihat dari satu sisi.kita hanya bisa melihat dari sisi pemakai bitcoin atau investor bitcoin coba kalau agan lht dari sisi yang lain orang yg tidak bisa mengakses bitcoin apa yang terjadi pasti terjadi tidak seimbangnya sistem ekonomi yang berjalan dan tetntunya akan terjadi inflasi besar2an trhdp mata uang lokal itu klo menurut ane
466  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What are the advantages of having Bitcoin? on: January 07, 2018, 10:30:51 AM
The only thing I know about Bitcoin is that it is a virtual 'money' but what are the other use of it? What are your advantages for having a bitcoin?  Roll Eyes
it is very clear answer his profit is quite high if investing with bitcoin and income tax free and the value of bitcoin price increase is fantastic
467  Economy / Speculation / Re: Does Bitcoin stable ? on: January 07, 2018, 10:21:59 AM
Recently  Bitcoin got very high fluctuations. It went up 19,000USD(nearly) and dip to 12,500USD. In this situation does BTC stable ?

What are reason for that kind fluctuations ?
How long it will take reach 19,000 USD with this kind of market fluctuations ?

for the problem of whether or not stable bitcoin I think no one can predict exactly because there is currently no guideline to be our analysis of the value of bitcoin
468  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC in 2018 january on: January 06, 2018, 01:28:02 AM
In 2017 september btc price under 3000$.However it jumped to 18000$ in the begining of this month and now it around 13000$.Will it jump back to 18000$ or more in 2018 january
we can not predict exactly the value of bitcoin for sure but I know the value of bitcoin is always always up and for the value of the drop is not so significant that I expect the bitcoin value in 2018 will experience a pretty fantastic increase
469  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Jika MUI mengeluarkan fatwa tentang Bitcoin on: January 06, 2018, 01:22:24 AM
Bagaimana tanggapan Agan2 semua jika nanti MUI mengeluarkan fatwa bahwa Bitcoin ini adalah Haram? Apakah kalian berhenti menjadi Bitcoiner? Terus bagaimana dengan hasil (Bitcoin) yang sudah agan dapatkan? Akan agan buang atau bagaimana?

*NOTE: kalau mau buang, ane siap tampung yaa heheee
ane rasa gak ada hubungan nya MUI dengan bitcoin agan masalah haram itu dilihat dari segi apa? kan kita gak mencuri atau mengambil hak orang lain gan.masa bodoh dengan MUi mengeluarkan fatwa haram trus lanjut kita investasi di bitcoin
470  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin worth it or not? on: January 06, 2018, 01:18:26 AM
Hi guys!

iam kind of noob of this bitcoins and i have some questions i need to have answer on.

is it worth to invest right now? do guys think its gonna rise up much more or just crash?

should i buy btc, or just mine it by my self?

best regards
for me you are right to invest now because I am sure investing with bitcoin will benefit. but to buy bitcoin it's up to you because you can decide when to buy it
471  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is there any way to destroy the bitcoin? on: December 30, 2017, 06:14:22 PM
Is there any way to destroy the bitcoin?  Not to hack or fake it but completely destroy the system.
why are you looking for a way to destroy bitcoin system instead bitcoin it is a very profitable investment assets and the results can be useful for economic viability
472  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How Can We Make Sure Bitcoin Never Ends? on: December 29, 2017, 02:22:09 PM
Some people like the Brazil Central Bank Chief called Bitcoin a Bubble & Pyramid Scheme, how can the bitcoin industry prove this wrong and make sure bitcoin never ends but grows bigger?
for now in my country bitcoin still running in stable level there has been no significant decrease in value and I hope the future bitcoin will be more successful and big in my country
473  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why bitcoin is not supported in some countries? on: December 28, 2017, 11:55:06 PM
I have heard that bitcoin is not supported in some countries. But why ? Is it because bitcoin is risky ? Some countries even declare 6 months jail if her people use bitcoin. Is it fair ? I mined few cryptos and have left mining. It was fun and challenging too. But I never got any clear answer. What does my gpu actually do ? I pay electric bill, my room temperature goes high and I get paid. With actually no skill on pc hardware and software. Whole thing is still pretty unclear to me
your question is pretty good about why there is a country that prohibits bitcoin and is it fair, it is likely the country is afraid of inflation on the country's economy or the country is afraid of a bad deviation to bitcoin users if in my opinion
474  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Which Investment Type do you Prefer??? on: December 27, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
There are so many investment program existing out there and i want to here the pulse of the people where they would prefer to invest and why. so other people here may knew that they can earn in different forms and different ways in online world.

Types of investments

1. Gambling - Chances to earn big in just an hour
2. Tradings - Need proper learnings and monitoring tp avoid lose.
3. Hyips - Ponzi Scheme And risky
4. Crownfunding - earn by gh and ph.

Which do you prefered investment above do you see  you can earn and why.
it is so much investment given the choice in bitcoin but I just run the investment with trading and wait for the results of bitcoin that is getting up in value
475  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 2018 is the new era for bitcoin? on: December 25, 2017, 02:28:23 AM
Hello,


i see the chart is going up now, maybe for a short term and go back down, but do you think the new fresh money which can be reinvested from the beggining of Jan ( especially the chinese funds, as the banks release the holden stocks of private investors and companys  ) will keep the price maybe back to 20k or even higher?


can you maybe tell me some reasons why it is going up for the future?



btw iam a long term holder ( 3+ years ) and iam not panic selling at all, i just wait for the right moment.
I think the most important thing to think is the best of bitcoin, because from what I know and I read from the discussion of the holders of bitcoin assets, bitcoin values rise significantly and stable even though the down point takes patience to wait until the value rises
476  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sell your house for investment in btc. on: December 24, 2017, 09:35:30 AM
Just imagine selling your $259,900 house for 43BTC and 2 Months in street.

and after just 2 months sell 43BTC for $498198.

Again buying the previous also you will be in profit of $472298.


would you try this technique.
I think I have such speculation and analysis that is so perfect and your confidence is so great with the benefits of investing in bitcoin and I think you are too brave to do that
477  Economy / Speculation / Re: Better Late than Never? on: December 21, 2017, 05:53:05 AM
Huh I couldn't wait any longer and jumping into cryptocurrency pretty late. I understand I have invested at the high end as of late, but with the rapid growth over the last several weeks I would be a fool not to jump in.

What are the predictions of the bubble before it bursts and drops back down?

Also, I imagine it should become my goal, as an investor, to actually use the bitcoin for what it was created to do. Peer to Peer purchasing in a free market, not relying on the banks or 3rd party taking their cut. Where can I begin actually using bitcoin to purchase normal household items?
I agree with your opinion with the belief that bitcoin will continue to increase, and for the moment in my country bitcoin can not be fully for free market transactions, but I'm sure that someday it will happen in my country
478  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins for illegal activity on: December 20, 2017, 06:33:06 AM
From recent news in India it is heard that bitcoins are used to sell drugs..I know its a currency and it is also used as a normal money... but these can create a bad space in people's mind that bitcoins are used to sell drugs..so they will not use bitcoins... Conclusion is that BTC is also a currency which is having a high value in the market..and bitcoins must not be used in these illegal activity which can reduce its usage and value.
that is what many people worry about about the misuse of bitcoin and it all goes back to the goal of people accessing the bitcoin for what, so the problem until now there is no law regulating and legally binding the bitcoin
479  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can cryptocurrency make real money disappear? on: December 18, 2017, 11:50:32 PM
What are the chances of living in a world with no actual money ?  Shocked
may also occur because of the advancement of the era and the demands of the technology and the ingredients that we must directly follow the development of one of the examples that occurred in my country have all been using credit cards and other cards as a payment instrument transactions
480  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin as payment system on: December 15, 2017, 11:19:38 PM
We all know that Bitcoin is one of the best ways to invest your money. However, we know that Satoshi wanted to change money as we know it rather than new investment model.

How do you think, will we be using bitcoin as payment system? Or it will stay as it is and this bubble blow up one day?  Undecided

And how do you see it's future?


if bitcoin becomes a means of payment would be very good but in my country may still be too far for that because technological development is still too slow about bitcoin
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