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4601  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 16, 2023, 07:58:22 PM
PSG has activated buy back clause from Xavi Simons which mean if he accept to left PSV then PSG will bought him according to his buy back clause 6 millions and Simons personally accept this offers and he is willing moved to PSG and PSG has important plan for him because if Mbappe or Neymar left this summer then PSG will placing him at their main squad but if those players stayed at PSG then Simons probably loaned to other teams to gets more minutes to play and it says Leipzig are interested to loan him

Simons currently was leaving PSV training camp and went to Paris for medical check and it say he will receive 4 years contract duration however Simons had fantastic season with PSV last season and as a attacking midfielder his goals records was quite amazing with 22 goals from 48 games so i am not surprised if PSG want him

That's a great plan of course, but when it comes to Mbappe and Neymar and if both players leave, then it looks like PSG still have to find players to fill the positions left behind. Because after all, Xavi Simons himself is only positioned in the attack midfield and moreover, Xavi Simons is still very young to be the first choice in PSG core squad. But if PSG really will put Xavi Simons in their core squad, then of course Xavi Simons will have a very big chance to get a lot of experience at his young age. But after all, i'm personally still quite sure that Mbappe and Neymar will still play at PSG next season.
4602  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 16, 2023, 06:54:27 PM
Even the opening match has not happened yet. People were speculating if Manchester City could take the trophy again.. It's caused by city is still very strong at this moment.
Even though some key players were leaving from the club like gundogan and mahrez or even walker. The club has recruited new talented players who are as skilled as the departing veterans. I see no problem when people are talking about which club that potentially win UCL.
The transfer season has been making the situation in the club become dynamic and that's unpredictable. There will be so many changes for the upcoming seasons, especially for manchester city.
No doubt with Manchester City is very strong teams right now, but current update many important player leaves Manchester City and I don't sure they will sign the same level players. İlkay Gündoğan and Kyle Walker have confirmed will leave Manchester City next season after accepting join with Barcelona and Bayern Munich, its still not stop for players leave Manchester City because Bernando Silva announced not extend contract with City and will follow İlkay Gündoğan for joining with Barcelona.

Inside Manchester City loss Mahrez after joining with Al Ahly as Saudi Pro League teams, many composition change with Manchester City next season and actually new players will need time for adapting with Guardiola games style.
 


Actually, new players also certainly have experience and it will not be difficult for him to adapt. Also about Manchester City itself which is rumored to win the title again, of course it is a speculation that may be excessive. But even so, it certainly does not rule out the possibility for Manchester City to be able to repeat the same success as last season. But yes, of course it will never be easy to maintain it but at least, Manchester City will still have a chance and that means, Manchester City still cannot be fully confirmed to be able to win back the title next season only possibly, still have a chance.
4603  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 16, 2023, 06:12:40 PM

Actually Rudi Garcia is indeed a good coach, it's just that the fans expect Napoli's performance to be the same as last season, of course that will be a heavy burden for Rudi Garcia and many people doubt that Rudi Garcia is able to maintain Napoli's slick performance, and also Rudi Garcia is a minimal coach. regarding achievements, I think while at Napoli he will experience very heavy pressure to be able to continue what Spalletti has given to the Napoli team.

Well, in about 8 weeks; we will find out about Rudi Garcia coaching pedigree theres no need to speculate. Napoli are Serie A reigning champions; Garcia jobs will be to go for another title win or atleast challenge for the title closely while also improving on the success of last season in the champions league. With Kim Min Jae reportedly off to Bayern Munich; Napoli need to bolster their squads and improve the squad depths ahead of the new season.

But if last season Napoli didn't win the title, then Rudi Garcia won't get high pressure either. Because if Rudi Garcia gets high pressure, it's just a situation and a moment that might not be right for the new coach at Napoli right now. But yes, from most of the speculations that exist about Rudi Garcia at least they seem to underestimate Rudi Garcia, because at this moment we also will not know what the results will be like. Maybe, Rudi Garcia can make Napoli better than the previous season but if at the same time, competing teams also get a very good performance improvement. Then these results will still make Rudi Garcia labeled a failure, but let's look forward to the real results next season.
4604  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 05:51:54 PM
Maybe it will increase again, because I heard the rumours about Sadio Mane.

because Tuchel himself said that Mane did not perform as expected last season. this is a big sign that Mane will not be part of Tuchel's plans. and most likely Mane will be released this summer. Moreover, Munich also needs funds to bring in Kane. Of course, the purchase that might be made by the Al Nassr club which is rumored to be interested in pairing Ronaldo with Mane will be an advantage for Munich.
if Mane doesn't get a better offer from another European club that of course must be according to the wishes of Munich. I think a Saudi club like Al Nassr will be a good place for Mane.

Yes indeed, it also seems that only Al Nassr or the clubs that play in the Saudi Professional League are willing to pay Mane handsomely. So, if I consider the existing European clubs, then it seems that European clubs are not ready to pay Mane such high fees. Thus, the scenario of selling Mane to bring in Kane seems like a very plausible scenario, and maybe it will actually happen. But if Al Nassr changes his plans and cancels signing Mane, then of course Mane will still play at Bayern Munich.
4605  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 16, 2023, 05:13:26 PM
Barcelona managed to sign Gundogan because Gundogan is also on a free transfer and also, even though Mbappe has been linked with Real Madrid for a long time it is also not a guarantee that Mbappe will go to Real Madrid. So yes, anything can still happen and "for example" Mbappe to Barcelona, it is also still possible to happen. But unfortunately, Barcelona do not have stable finances in this moment and of course, with financial management that is not good then it makes Barcelona at this moment do not have big plans to bring in the most expensive players.
Barcelona are in heavy pressure considering recruitment of new players unless they are free agents. They have right now 26 players in the team, half of them foreigners. They got Gundogan and Martinez for free and collected few millions from Griezmann and Trincao. This money will not help them get any top player, they lack a real replacement for Lewandowski in case he get injured unless Xavi change his tactics.. For Mbappe, he will join Real Madrid, that's sure.

That is why Barcelona are not in the race to sign top players at this moment, unless they are on a free transfer as I also said before. Also about Mbappe, the player is basically very likely to become a Real Madrid player later. But, as long as it has not been ratified then Mbappe still has a chance to be able to play for other clubs too. Because after all, the previous incident also Mbappe was very close to leaving for Real Madrid, but in fact PSG offered a new contract and the privileges given so that Mbappe failed to Real Madrid. With this case, it is very possible that if later there is a high and bigger fee from Real Madrid, then Mbappe could change course.
4606  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 04:25:01 PM
Harry Kane can be considered a legend of Tottenham and the Premier League. Although only 29, the striker broke the record when he surpassed the legendary Jimmy Graves to become Tottenham's No. 1 scorer. Class is like that, but unfortunately, Kane has not yet won a collective title in his career. He needs to look for trophies before his peak is over quickly. The British striker's biggest goal will still be to have a specific throne in his career. It would be too harsh if Harry Kane did not win any titles in the near future. It's time for him to leave Tottenham and find a club to help him do it.

I agree with you, Harry Kane is a Tottenham Legend and a Premier league world class striker; will he hit the Legendary status at the Premier league? i am quite unsure.  I hope Harry Kane gets the Bayern Munich transfer; that way he is able to get better wages and also have improved status because of trophies he we will win with the bundesliga champions.

I agree if Kane is included in the ranks of legends
Tottenham Hotspurs but it would be a shame if he had to end his career without a title. If he stays I'm sure he won't either. Kane is clearly psychologically disturbed and we are just waiting for the time to see the decision in determining his attitude. Bayern Munich really want it, I agree if the England national team striker joins The Bavarian to win his first title.

If the calculation is still related to titles and trophies, then Kane still cannot be said to be a legendary player. Thus, if Kane will be able to truly become an Premier League legend, then Kane must at least be able to win the Premier League title itself. So yes, if the goal is like that, then playing at Manchester City or maybe Liverpool can make Kane able to win the Premier League title someday. But yes, if Kane will leave for Bayern Munich, then Kane no longer has a chance to become a player legend in the Premier League.
4607  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 16, 2023, 03:37:42 PM
What I'm looking forward to now is the pre-season games that the big clubs will have, especially those who will be in the Champions League next season. For me pre-season matches are very important to measure and test the strategies they will apply in the competition later, also I want to see the game of new players who have just joined the club club.
In pre-season matches, all strengths will be tried, including seeing the ability of players who will be the second tier later, who knows they will be able to show a good game and eventually be able to penetrate the main squad.

I think friendly matches in pre-season matches are only to prepare their strategies and tactics to start the season in their respective leagues and not for the Champions League. Because after all, the Champions League will only start when their respective leagues have started first. So yes, to prepare their performance in the Champions League, of course, it can be prepared from matches that have been played first in their respective leagues. So in this case, pre-season matches for me have nothing to do with preparing their performance in the Champions League next season.
4608  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 16, 2023, 02:50:40 PM

First of all, there are no more rich clubs like Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga. Secondly, neither team probably wants to compete with Bayern Munich for the title. The Dortmund team is quite strong. Had Dortmund not sold their best players every season they could have built a squad capable of competing for the title with Bayern Munich. But they don't. And this is why we see only Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga every season. Next season we will see the dominance of Munich.

There is another interesting situation. Borussia Dortmund sold many of their important players directly to Bayern Munich in the past. This was a huge strategic mistake. With this strategic mistake, Borussia Dortmund lost the possibility of approaching the level of Bayern Munich. Of course, not everything is finished. If Borussia Dortmund had managed to be a little more careful last season, they could have destroyed Bayern Munich's hegemony. Frankly, I think Bayern Munich will dominate the league next season as well. But football is a game of surprises and maybe we can watch a surprise.

In essence, Dortmund will always be willing to sell all their key players to clubs that have money and are willing to pay. So, even though Dortmund sold their key players to Bayern Munich, basically it was like a tradition to be done by Dortmund for a long time. But the great thing about Dortmund is, even though Dortmund always sells their key players every season, but every season Dortmund also always manages to be Bayern Munich's competitor at the top. Also, in the second point you said about "no team wants to compete with Bayern Munich". I don't think that's right because after all, every team is always trying to stop Bayern Munich's hegemony but yes, because Bayern Munich has good consistency it is certainly difficult for other teams to be able to compete consistently with Bayern Munich.
4609  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 16, 2023, 12:57:08 PM
I don't think Mbappe will ever be on Barcelona's radar. Currently, the Blaugrana almost have a mature squad with unstable financial conditions. I think the arrival of Gundogan is enough to complete the Barca squad to return to control of La Liga. Osimhen could be the right option if Xavi wants to add strength to his attack line, but the price is too high, of course the team from Catalan cannot afford it.
Players are valued and some are undervalued, with accordance to their performances. The blaugrana have no ambitions to sign Kylian Mbappe, who has been linked with Real Madrid for specific time, or Victor Osimhen. We are talking about players whose demands are greater and more valued in the transfer market, and Barcà has not offered to sign them, even if they would if their financial situation was better balanced. This summer, Barcelona added several good players, including IIkay Gundogan, who would strengthen the midfield for Xavi Hernandez, a fantastic structure for the club.

Barcelona managed to sign Gundogan because Gundogan is also on a free transfer and also, even though Mbappe has been linked with Real Madrid for a long time it is also not a guarantee that Mbappe will go to Real Madrid. So yes, anything can still happen and "for example" Mbappe to Barcelona, it is also still possible to happen. But unfortunately, Barcelona do not have stable finances in this moment and of course, with financial management that is not good then it makes Barcelona at this moment do not have big plans to bring in the most expensive players.
4610  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 16, 2023, 10:45:49 AM
The question will be, will PSG will the French ligue title again? easily or tight gaps?
Psg will win the Ligue 1 title, that is how easy it has been for them to win the French title for many years now, so you can be almost sure that they will be the champions even before the season starts. Psg want to win the champions league, they are tired of the Ligue 1 title, but they cannot win the champions league yet. The club will have to change how they operate if they want to win the champions league, players cannot have more powers in the team than the manager, they have to sell players that think they are bigger than the club and then build a new team from the start.
as long as PSG doesn't lose their best players like Mbappe and Neymar PSG still has hope of getting the Liga 1 title but after the contracts of these two best players run out it might be a little difficult to get the Liga 1 title in the future.

but to catch the Champions League, maybe PSG is a little difficult because seeing their performance they cannot compete with other big teams like Man City and Real Madrid at this time unless luck is on PSG side in the coming season.

It does not matter whether Mbappe and Neymar will still stay in the PSG squad because i only believe that PSG will be fine as long as PSG have a coach who has great experience and good quality. Because after all, PSG has a lot of money and even if Mbappe and Neymar leave, then of course PSG will be able to recruit other great players. So yes, i personally don't care about these two players because after all, these two players also don't have the feeling of being comfortable continuing to play at PSG and of course it will be a problem to get consistent performance.
4611  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Between futures trading and gambling on: July 16, 2023, 10:14:05 AM
There are many gamblers that can gamble just to have some fun and make money in the process and there are some that focus on gambling only to make money so I would like to ask such people a question.

would you prefer to gamble in a casino and make some money or learn about futures trading and make some money?

Which one do you actually find to be more easier and I believe that futures trading is also capable of giving someone life-changing money but which one do you believe is less risky than the other?

I seem to be pretty sure that they would prefer a game that makes money, and that they can get in gambling. Although futures trading and gambling can both make money and lose money, but basically futures trading requires them to do a lot of learning and understanding first. At least such a process may be considered difficult and may make feel like a waste of time, because basically they will prefer instant ways to make money like in gambling.
4612  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 16, 2023, 08:37:36 AM
I wonder how Napoli will go on from here, will they be able to maintain same form as they showed previous season with a new manager controlling and directing the affairs of the team with new tactics and strategies or could this be the beginning of their down fall? Many questions are going through my mind. Could they successfully convince Osimhen to extend his contract and find a new striker?
Until now nothing big happened in Serie A, just slight change as far as I am aware of which means things will remain quite the same next season with Napoli advantageous along with Inter tho. Obviously there might be new signing later otherwise the other teams will be in trouble concurring Napoli.
I expect Juventus to return to the race for top spots in addition to Milan. For Roma, you have the feeling they are broke and collecting free transfers while selling some of their players! Quite weird what they are planning for the next season.

After all, why would you think or expect Osimhen's contract to be extended because in reality, Osimhen is still under contract at Napoli until 2025. Also, Napoli is basically not a team that is used to keeping its key players, so it would be natural if Osimhen later left. Also apart from that and regarding Napoli's performance next season, I personally am still quite sure that Napoli will still compete strongly at least in the top five, but to defend the Scudetto is definitely a difficult task to achieve.
4613  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 16, 2023, 07:20:55 AM
Im thinking burnley gonna be the one who will be last longer in the premier league. Vincent kompnay was doing smart transfer by strengthening the club through getting some players as loan from another club. Even burnley was also getting some players from manchester city as loan. The limited budget owner by burnley has been pushing vincent kompany signing the new players as loan from another club. that's enough to strengthen the burnley's squad for another season.
Yeah Burnley is really deserve playing in Premier League because among other clubs in Championship, they're the most serious club to develop as they're active in transfer window to buy and sell players.

Luton Town is really lucky to be promoted in Premier League, they're performed very bad in FA Cup. Actually Blackburn Rovers played better in FA Cup against other clubs in Premier League.

I personally think there is still no guarantee for Burnley to be able to last long in the Premier League even though indeed, it looks like Vincent Kompany is able to provide a good performance for Burnley. But, whether Vincent Kompany is able to make Burnley consistent in the Premier League, and i think it is still uncertain. Because of some previous coaches too, who when they were players in the past in the Premier League and then successfully became coaches at clubs out there. But when they become coaches at the club to play in the Premier League, the fact is that they still find it difficult to be able to provide good and consistent performance for the club they coach.
4614  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2023/2024 on: July 15, 2023, 07:48:23 PM
I've almost forgotten about the Chinese League now because I'm enjoying following the latest developments in the Arab League, especially in player transfers. More interestingly, it's not just one, two, or 3 players, but they also bring in more than what I imagined. And it's not just one club doing it either, but those who have the money will not hesitate to hunt for players. Although there may be some players who are rumored and even I think it's a bit exaggerated with the price. But that's how a club with money does it. Lol


Haha we've forgotten about the Chinese League even one of the clubs is reportedly bankrupt, of course we don't want the same thing to happen to clubs in the Saudi League too pushy to bring in top players so that income does not match expenses, let's see how strong the clubs in this league are to bring in more top players. Reportedly 3-4 clubs in this league are owned by the same company which means all expenses will be financed by the company including 3-4 clubs I can't imagine how much money they have  Cheesy

Yes, reportedly so but if so far these clubs are still safe, then of course they also do not violate financial fair play which is certainly a success for them. Indeed, I also previously thought that maybe only Ronaldo was willing to play in the Saudi Professional League and maybe, it would not make other clubs do crazy things like Al Nassr. But in the end, other clubs also have the same power to be able to bring in top European players and at least it is clear that the changes they make are not only done for popularity, but the changes made by these clubs are clearly to improve the quality of their football.
4615  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: July 15, 2023, 07:25:24 PM
One beauty about the UEFA Champions League is that it is the home of surprises and upsets. Newcastle can pull up a surprise in the champions league next season and surprise many punters of the game. I believe the Newcastle United team goal is to reach the round of 16 of the UEFA Champions League. I believe Eddie Howe can achieve that
If you look at it in terms of the main goal of all the teams that have entered the Champions League next season is to win the Champions League. But because remembering that it will never be easy for all teams in fighting to become champions in the Champions League, of course some teams only target achievements for certain rounds. But if they can get more than that, I think that's more worthy of being called a surprise.

For me personally, if Newcastle doesn't have many new recruits in this transfer market, then it doesn't look like Newcastle has a good chance of going further. But yes, if in this transfer market Newcastle manages to bring in new players which of course are accompanied by good skills and potential, then this could give Newcastle a better chance of getting to the round of 16 and or maybe even getting to the quarter-finals. But as a team that has been consistent for two consecutive seasons in the Premiere League, then at least Newcastle getting a Champions League ticket is already a success for them at this moment.
4616  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: July 15, 2023, 06:51:21 PM
I think I disagree here, because Mbappe is too good to not be able to adapt to tougher environments or leagues. There is a reason that he is already in the top 20 of the Champions League goal scorer list and also scored 38 goals in 68 games for the national team. His goals aren't only scored against Ajaccio, but against the best teams in the world on a regular basis. I wish he would go to a club in the Premier League as I think that should be the place for him to improve even more.

Yes, Mbappe has already shown himself in different conditions and everywhere he was successful. He is not a "rising" star, but a long-established one, and I am also sure that moving to any league will not worsen his results.
As for moving to the Premier League, it would be interesting to see (how they beat all records in a race with Haaland), but this is extremely unlikely for many reasons.

Indeed, basically Mbappe will still be fine if he leaves for another club other than Real Madrid but the problem is. If at his new club it will still be difficult for the club to win the title, then it will also only be useless, because at PSG also Mbappe still promises to win the title for Ligue 1 but not for the Champion League. So, at this moment if Mbappe leaves, then at least the club can guarantee to be able to get the Champion League title and yes, at least Real Madrid is among the clubs that can provide this guarantee.
4617  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: July 15, 2023, 06:28:32 PM
But Bayern managed to take the first place last season. Yes, Dortmund got the same number of points, but Bayern scored more goals and eventually won the Bundesliga. This kind of competition between Dortmund and Bayern happens regularly, so I wouldn't say Bayern are in some kind of crisis. It's just that this season has been difficult for all clubs.
I don't think it's still right to say that next season will be difficult for all clubs, because next season hasn't started yet so there's nothing more worthy to judge now. Even though according to predictions from some people there won't be easy things for every team next season, because they all have to be able to fight more consistently since the start of the season if they want to win in the Bundesliga and also in other championships.

In fact, the rivalry between Bayern Munich and Dortmund last season was a very tough competition and also, such competition is very rare. Although indeed, Bayern Munich and Dortmund have a long competition from season to season, but usually Bayern Munich has a wide point gap from Dortmund, but last season it was clearly very different because the decider also had to be determined in the last match. But for next season, I personally don't believe their competition will be as difficult as last season because after all, I'm pretty sure that Tuchel will be able to give a good result for Bayern Munich's from initial match next season.
4618  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: July 15, 2023, 05:58:09 PM
More than anything we are waiting to see the performance of PSG for the next season after they started working with Enrique because, unlike the last seasons, PSG got a good coach who knows how to win a game. Also, this time PSG is not going to spend money to just buy top-level and famous players, instead they stick to Enrique's plan.

At least PSG for next season has a head coach who is used to coaching many star players in his squad, both at the La Liga club and also being the coach of the Spanish national team. So yes, I personally do not doubt the quality of Luis Enrique to be able to give the best for PSG. But even so, I personally still can't expect too much for PSG's achievements in the Champions League because of course, to get better in the Champions League at least Luis Enrique also still needs time.
4619  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: July 15, 2023, 05:38:38 PM
De Gea is getting old and maybe that's why Manchester United tried to decrease his salary for the next season since is a famous payer and achieved many goals for this team. It was not good to ask this from De Gea however I think it was not about salary but that's mostly because of Ten Hag, he prefers to work with the goalkeeper he had at Ajax

Initially his salary was going to be cut by 100k per week and De Gea agreed somehow Manchester United wanted to renew his contract again and here De Gea did not agree and decided to move, we don't know if he moved because his salary were lower or he felt disrespected as a legend. actually Manchester United were criticized for what they did to De Gea but their decision is fixed and does not change anything.

After all, De Gea's salary increase at that time was due to Manchester United making efforts to restrain De Gea so hat not leaving to Real Madrid. So, if at this moment De Gea's salary is lowered, then I think that's fine because after all, age will certainly affect whether a player deserves to be paid handsomely or not. After all, if De Gea still wants to be paid handsomely at a no longer young age, then De Gea can choose to play in the Saudi Professional League. Because there are clubs that play in the Saudi Professional League, they are still willing to pay a premium for legendary players who are over 30 years old.
4620  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: July 15, 2023, 05:14:16 PM
Fabrizio Romano explained that Lukaku had yet to respond to an offer from Inter Milan and added to the complexity of price negotiations with Chelsea's management. Juventus came to enliven the hunt for Lukaku's signature by offering Dusan Vlahovic to Chelsea, a genius move made by Juve's management in this transfer.

Anything can still happen because the transfer market is still long and various possibilities can be explored by clubs that want the services of the player from Belgium.
Inter Milan close negotiation for signing Lukaku, they not interested yet want to sign Lukaku next season after last proposal from Inter rejected by Chelsea. Return back to Chelsea can't guarantee with Lukaku as priority player and become first choose under Pochettino but back to Inter Milan almost impossible after announcing have decide not negotiation yet. Lukaku will waiting respond from Juventus and will pay bid offer ask bu Chelsea above 45 million euro? Actually Inter Milan decide not negotiation again for Lukaku because disappointed with Chelsea respond after two proposal reject. Possibility with Inter won't pay above 35 million euro for signing Lukaku but Chelsea thinks that values most cheapest price for Lukaku.

But as far as I know also that Lukaku does not want and or is not interested in playing at Juventus but yes, if Juventus offer Vlahovic to Chelsea to get Lukaku then maybe the transaction could happen. But indeed, I also don't know what if the player really doesn't want to join Juventus, but at the same time I personally believe Chelsea will agree to sign Vlahovic. This issue is very interesting to me, because it seems that Juventus are very serious about bringing Lukaku and giving up Vlahovic, and for me it is a ridiculous move made by Juventus.
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