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4601  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining .vs buying in a bear market on: April 09, 2023, 11:06:02 PM
Buying coins is almost always wrong if you have cheap power.

Buying gear is almost always correct if you have cheap power.
...
Well from a simplistic BTC view, you'll probably never buy a miner that will mine more BTC than it cost to buy.

I purchase most of my miners with one year free credit.

And I can’t buy BTC on one year free credit.

But yea if you can’t buy miners properly (credit or cash) buy and hold btc is okay.

In fact I recently cut a deal for a ‘free’ miner.

I take 2 from the dealer.
He gives me one
The other I let him mine for zero power cost for one year.

Thus no btc out of pocket.
no cash out of pocket.

Can only do this with cheap power.
better yet he repairs gear. So I get good repairs.

Our expansion issues are cooling.
Still waiting on the liquid coolers from octominer they are now sixty nine days late.
4602  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: April 09, 2023, 10:42:55 PM

buddy be rising again.

😀
4603  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Solar powered mining only during sunlight and without batteries on: April 09, 2023, 10:10:02 PM
There's been numerous heated discussions comparing solar power and grid power.
One thing that I have never seen being discussed is using solar panels without batteries, and mining only during sunlight, and not grid tied. 

Ideally, everything would work great when there is full sunlight and the solar panels are producing electricity at full capacity.

The part that I don't know is what might happen in the morning or evening when the sun is low in the sky and the solar panels are only generating a fraction of its capacity. 

Just for argument's sake, let's say the mining rig is an Antminer S1 drawing 300-watts of power at 12VDC and two 12V 300-watt solar panels providing 600-watts of power during peak sunlight.

My question is, what will happen in the morning and evening when the solar panels are only producing, say, 100-watts of power? Will the Antminer S1 work at a much lower hash rate? Or could it be damaged due to insufficient power? What if during the day, dark clouds came rolling in and the power fluctuates between 50-watts and 400-watts?

Is there some kind of pre-built device or protection circuit that can regulate the power to at least 300-watts? I suppose a small battery can be added just to normalize fluctuations so that the regulator won't cycle the power too frequently.





We purchased two separate invertors that claimed to be able to take the power from solar panels and discharge a stable 12 volts.

We used 6x 200 watt panels which should generate 1200 watts at 12 volts enough to run two s9 boards in a unit.  The power supply loads on the specialty inverters were not stable.

So we needed to put in a battery to get it to be stable.

used a few thousand in gear .  a big fail.

As the inverter did not do what is was advertised to do.

If the load was light bulbs it would fire up.
if the load was a psu it would not fire.
4604  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2023, 07:36:00 PM
2010: $0.09 on July 17  but easter was 04 April. still can't find a price for it.

2011: $0.77 on April 1. easter was 24 April. I  found a price for $1.65 on this site https://bitcoinpricelookup.com/bitcoin-price-on-april-24-2011/

Looking for better info than I found

I just checked the historic Bitcoin chart on BuyBitcoinWorldwide and it gives me the following data:

4th April 2010: no data (it starts on 19th July, 2010). I just found this for 2010:

Quote
How Much was 1 Bitcoin Worth in 2010? Bitcoin's price never topped $1 in 2010! Its highest price for the year was just $0.39!

24th April 2011: $1.70

However, not sure if this price is accurate.


So either $1.65 or $1.70 for easter 2011.

and no known price for easter 2010. close we have is bitcoin pizza day for a spring 2010 price I think.

may 22 , 2010

10,000 coins for 1 pizza.

I could get a pizza for 10 dollars in 2011 so 1/10 of a cent would be the may 22, 2010 price.


https://www.investopedia.com/news/bitcoin-pizza-day-celebrating-20-million-pizza-order/

Now the guy who got 10000 coins on may 22 could have sold them on July 9 for 900 usd.

as btc was 9 cents in July on mt gox.

he would end up regretting that if it is what he did.
4605  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [FREE RAFFLE] Happy Easter on: April 09, 2023, 06:43:08 PM
06/56 philipma1957 thank you and happy easter.
4606  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: made a bid and bitmain fucks up again with an expired order notice on: April 09, 2023, 06:39:55 PM
How'd you make out with them did they ever make good?

Nah .

I will start working on refund for the two deposits next week.
4607  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2023, 06:11:54 PM
Historical #Bitcoin    prices on this Easter day ✨

2012: $4.85
2013: $190
2014: $443
2015: $244
2016: $419
2017: $1,188
2018: $6,771
2019: $5,205
2020: $7,302
2021: $58,245
2022: $42,782
2023: 27,925

HODL ✊


https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1645091090976972800?t=0ihNAvdLFhEJrgybnm4eLQ&s=19



2010: $0.09 on July 17  but easter was 04 April. still can't find a price for it.

2011: $0.77 on April 1. easter was 24 April. I  found a price for $1.65 on this site https://bitcoinpricelookup.com/bitcoin-price-on-april-24-2011/


2012: $4.85
2013: $190
2014: $443
2015: $244
2016: $419
2017: $1,188
2018: $6,771
2019: $5,205
2020: $7,302
2021: $58,245
2022: $42,782
2023: 27,925


Looking for better info than I found
4608  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: New Avalonminer a1246 not mining on: April 09, 2023, 04:06:59 PM
I have 1 lone a1246 mine went dead on the 8th of April.

I will post logs later.


4609  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 09, 2023, 01:47:17 PM








Is not every BTC transaction documented on something called a blockchain?
4610  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: What to do with all the old s-9s. on: April 09, 2023, 01:41:26 PM
I'm not really sure I see any reason to mod the s9. With apw5 and braiins os+ the s9 is way quieter than my r4 by running the stock fans on auto and the power >1000. I watch television in a room with 2 s9 at 700w and auto fans running >20%. The AFB1212SH fans actually run at a higher rpm and seem louder to my ears at the same settings as stock fans.


The afb1212sh fan pulls a lot less power IIRC
4611  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2023, 10:10:46 PM
buddy be good.
4612  Other / Meta / Re: Who is the oldest user among forum still active? on: April 08, 2023, 08:34:47 PM
Just see now a post and….

Hostfat (Italian board admin) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=203
Registered in 2010 and last post today!

I Think we have a winner  Smiley

Theymos has been here longer
4613  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2023, 08:30:20 PM
Probably fed up of all the merit farming shit posters

I think so. The possibility is unlimited.
There are a bunch of Legendary Shit posters who are trying to jump over people's heads without realizing that they are doing shit.
Writes useless nonsense without any context. He should learn from me. I Ignored a bunch of Shit posters. Let's say he is fine as long as he is not seeing people getting bored at the house and posting shit because they have nothing to do. There is a saying; "A lazy mind is the devil's factory."  Roll Eyes


What are you trying to say?
Maybe it's just me but i can't make much sense out of your rant after reading it more then ten times (not joking).
WO is a place for hanging out with fellow Bitcoiners and sharing interests, not only Bitcoin-related. It's the exception to the rule.
This thread is more like a never ending family gathering, imo. I never got so much colorful conversation out of one thread anywhere else on the internet, and i've been online for roughly 30 years now.
Maybe you're confusing the term "shitpost" with something else?
IDK, maybe it's just me having a less than optimal day, not getting the meaning of your message.


You know if you know. But if you didn't get it, You are soft-hearted.
I know the term "Shitpost." Believe me; I know that.
They already got it and are scratching their balls and thinking about what to write now.



I was picking my nose till I read your post.😉
4614  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Make an S9 quite? on: April 08, 2023, 04:28:23 PM
Any one replace the fans for something not as loud? Or replace with a Noctua (RPM isn't as much) and even taking a hashboard or two out?  Apartment mining for me the less noise the better.

there are multiple threads on low powered s9 builds.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160194.0


that thread may help
4615  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [∞ YH] solo.ckpool.org 2% fee solo mining 273 blocks solved! on: April 08, 2023, 12:49:22 PM
I am considering running a high stake 0.100 fee solo run

10 players times 0.100 is 1 btc in gives us about a 1 in seven shot at a block.

I do realize 0.100 is more serious outlay.

But I thought I would post and see if there any willing to try this.

I will join it.

Okay

philipma1957
jimjam123


eight more



Just a bump to see if there are any other ballers > I know 0.100 btc is a big amount.

But I do like the idea of renting 10 x 0.10 = 1 btc worth of hash.
4616  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2023, 04:01:57 AM
have to slap buddy again and again.

there are 39 million people in the 60-69 year old slot




https://www.statista.com/statistics/241488/population-of-the-us-by-sex-and-age/#

54 million 60 to 74

21 million 60-64

18 million 65-69

15 million 70-74

even if you only count 60 to 66 as ‘the eligible’ work force

its over 12 million and lots of them are idle waiting to 66 to get full benefits.

4617  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2023, 03:52:26 AM
and over 223,000 new jobs with a lower unemployment rate. so feds will raise again.


let me set if i can find that link.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/unemployment-declines-to-35-percent-as-labor-market-shows-strength/ar-AA19AL1G

 236,000 jobs added drops rate to 3.5 percent.

Fed wants to make unemployment go up to 4.5 percent.

almost certain to see  0.25 early May and 0.25 mid june.

https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-labor-force-participation-rate.htm

U.S. Civi labor force participation rate was

Jan 2020: 63.3%

Apr 2023: 62.6%

Great job Fed! Amazing job growth in 3 years! So many new jobs!  /s  Roll Eyes



Baby boomers are getting old and retiring thus the rate drop.

1946 now 77
1947 now 76
1948 now 75
1949 now 74
1950 now 73
1951 now 72
1952 now 71
1953 now 70
1954 now 69
1955 now 68
1956 now 67
1957 now 66. this june i qualify for full social security if i retire.

these numbers will continue until 1964 are 70 or 2033

so downward pressure will not end for 10 years.

The amount of people born 1946 to 1964 is huge and they dropped out a lot shrinking participation.

Take a 66 year old this june he can go to full social security. Or work at Shoprite union job checking groceries.

I know four or five checkers that stopped the last few years they would have worked longer but with covid-19 and being able to quite they did.

Some quit in 2020 and did nothing (or off books) till they can retire. A lot of people are doing this.
4618  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2023, 03:13:39 AM
and over 223,000 new jobs with a lower unemployment rate. so feds will raise again.


let me set if i can find that link.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/unemployment-declines-to-35-percent-as-labor-market-shows-strength/ar-AA19AL1G

 236,000 jobs added drops rate to 3.5 percent.

Fed wants to make unemployment go up to 4.5 percent.

almost certain to see  0.25 early May and 0.25 mid june.
4619  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: What will you do if you have a high mining hashrate on: April 08, 2023, 03:05:56 AM
you need a lot of hash rate and viabtc will give you a bit off fees.

I get nothing with 2.5 ph it is not enough to be a vip.

Last I looked it was 10 ph.

Also if you refer a big baller 10ph to them they will give you a piece for referral for one year up to forever if the person you recommend always does 10ph.

4620  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 08, 2023, 01:00:52 AM
buddy I left you alone since we got hot.  But I may have to go after you again.
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