So, why do hospitals charge 28x more for the same procedure than an apparently-profitable clinic? Valet services? Subsidizing those who can't afford to pay the extreme prices?
Could it be because, taking marketing into consideration, hospitals are just much better at business and making a profit than that clinic? Why didn't your mother go to the clinic to begin with? Was there an assumption that the hospital would be better? And did she pay for that until you knew better? She wasn't sure if the clinic was open and didn't have access to a phone or computer to check. She wasn't expecting anything like a $1400 charge from the hospital, either. ETA: fwiw, she refused the splint they wanted to put on, as well as bandages. Someone pushed her from the entrance to the ER, did the x-ray, and gave her 2 Vicodin pills. She requested an itemized list -- waiting on it. |
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Bet: .03BTC from 1LG8sBddyqrXKXzXEixSMEADcpvFSeXHmq
# generated: 723
Payout: 0x bet, 0BTC
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thanks stephen, any additional clarity you can offer would be appreciated.
kluge, that is my main point of confusion. i could not override the transaction fee at all, it just wouldn't send without including it.
Right. They are optional in the sense that it isn't necessarily enforced by miners (miners, or their representative pool, choose which transactions to include in a block) -- you can always set the fee to 0 with clients which allow it, but fees are mandatory with the official Satoshi client unless you change the code (which was done with the no-fee version -- not sure where link to it is - you'll have to find it yourself). It appears up to miners as to what fees are. AFAIK, there's nothing explicitly preventing all the mining pools from forming a cartel and charging 5BTC fees on all transactions if they really wanted to (not sure on that, though - wait for someone wiser than I). |
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You would still be charged with recieving stolen goods.
What is 'selling some IP'?
Not internet protocol address thingies?
I'm guessing he's talking about "Intellectual Property." |
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There are clients out there (at least both Armory and the specific no-fee version of the Satoshi client) which allow you to ignore the "mandatory" fee, and all the times I've done that, the coins still go through without a problem. So, I'm guessing given tx fees currently amount to a very insignificant amount compared to the 50BTC block reward, most pools aren't bothering to enforce fee "rules." I could've just been lucky, though, so don't do it based just on my experience.
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I've made a good few purchases with BTC, but I'm not sure I've ever bought IP using BTC, though I've expressed interest in buying games from Steam. Arrr!
If the IP were stolen and then sold for BTC, damages would be sought in the FMV of BTC in USD (assuming you reside in the US). ARRR!
Just as if you bought something with gold, the IRS will still want their share based on the USD FMV value of that gold. IP owners would sue for damages just as if the transaction were done in USD. Arrr!
Bitcoins are a medium of exchange, and have a fair market value easily-calculable for almost every government currency. Arr.
Copyright law is still copyright law, and this thread is retarded. ARRRRR!
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Related. Went to an after-hours clinic yesterday after getting some methanol-containing shellac in my eye. Mom drove me. She sprained her ankle a few weeks ago and had her ankle x-ray'd. They billed her $1400 just for the x-ray. Asked the doctor @ the clinic about it. They are equipped to do the same x-ray and would've charged $50. To have my eye examined under UV, and some other basic tests, cost me $40 (and I'm fine, btw). Pretty darn reasonable. I also waited a much shorter time in the clinic than my mom did in ER (granted, they were at different times, so somewhat non-comparable). He also prescribed me an antibiotic for bronchitis -- $10 for a full prescription, no gov't subsidization. So, why do hospitals charge 28x more for the same procedure than an apparently-profitable clinic? Valet services? Subsidizing those who can't afford to pay the extreme prices? ETA: Uncle's home insurance is covering my $40 cost to have eye examined (+having bronchitis looked at in the same visit), so total out-of-pocket cost for me - being uninsured myself - between bronchitis, a prescription, and having my eyes examined for damage after a can of shellac exploded, is $10.  |
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Also remember Diablo 3 will have it's own marketplace when released.
In game gear for BTC or USD... yes please!
Man... Blizzard staff would be so pissed if after all this work and criticism they've taken for implementing a USD AH, an underground market again popped up because people wanted to trade using BTC instead of USD. |
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=58897.0Seems the only way (which only sometimes works) is to delete the post(s) you made in the thread. ETA: Oh -- unless you're talking about email notification, in which case Olly's post below solves the problem. That's a bit annoying that you have to delete your post. Should be fixed when forum software is upgraded "soon." |
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If he actually DID get all those stolen coins, who did he scam?
CEX implies ZT sold him the coins, but ZT is still paying out withdraw requests, so... We dropped the fees to 7% to help out a bit. We are still getting too much BTC in comparison to LR so we need to keep a healthy balance. LR deposits are needed!! Visit, www.coinexchanger.comOr just use an exchange that doesn't charge a withdrawal fee.
We dropped the fees to 7% to help out a bit. We are still getting too much BTC in comparison to LR so we need to keep a healthy balance. LR deposits are needed!! Visit, www.coinexchanger.comWhy don't you freeze the accounts and return the stolen coins to Zhoutong and slush? Because how can I prove that indeed those are stolen coins? It could be Zhoutong who made the deposit, then came around and claimed the loss. How could I know? What a fool. Why would Zhoutong hack himself and then give away a large sum of BTC? Jesus christ. think about it... a little harder this time. Ohhhhh, okay. You imply you aren't stealing from Zhoutong, just receiving obscene profit by enabling Zhoutong to steal from his customers. At the moment I am short more than 120,000 thousand dollars and If the BTC dropped tomorrow to 1 Dollar, then I would have to swallow a 100K Loss. What obscene profit are you talking about?
At the moment I am short more than 120,000 thousand dollars and If the BTC dropped tomorrow to 1 Dollar, then I would have to swallow a 100K Loss. What obscene profit are you talking about?
So - and this is purely hypothetical, based on information from my imagination - you paid 120k for 32k stolen coins. 120/32=$3.75/coin Assume you can find enough assholes on the forum willing to buy stolen coins at FMV (based off Gox's current ask) of $4.73/coin. 4.73*32=151.36k $151.36k - $120k = $31.36k profit On top of that, there is 7% withdrawal fee, which would be on the $151.36k assuming customers won't be spending it all on chess. 151.36*.07=$10.5952k Total profit = $31.36k + $10.5852k, or $41,955.20 from fencing coins. That's an extremely optimistic number. The idea of getting Gox-price on coins @ CEX is ludicrous, though, so potentially a loss. |
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I send 0.1 coins to the client to test this out, and now I can't get it back off. I just get a Invalid transaction error. The amount and address are correct. I also downloaded it on another pc and it does the same thing...
Check address in something like blockchain.info -- looks like they go through, but don't display in Armory. ETA for e-pi: Win7 x64 |
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I have a sinus infection.
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User name (can't remember spelling -- something like "Alvarin")
Allinvain Okay. ... That's just funny. |
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Mods/Admin, please restore https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67159 -- I am an idiot and did not save a copy, myself. Also using HTTPS connection, so cached page is encrypted. ETA: Problem solved. Coincidentally, I am apparently unable to delete threads on this forum. |
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Bitcoins have been stolen way before the latest problem with Linode. User name (can't remember spelling -- something like "Alvarin") had 25k stolen not too long ago, MyBitcoin, A1Bitcoin, and many, many smaller scams involving good/service/loan transactions unfulfilled. Have sneaking suspicion that competent hackers lured into Bitcoin by financial gain through unethical means probably aren't the kind of folks who'd be appreciated by BTC community. I switched to Armory this morning for easy management of offline wallets after reading about what's happened, so that's something positive -- for me, anyway.  |
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Have you used Bitcoinica, Bitscalper, MtGox pre-hack, Slush's pool, or any other service which may've been compromised (esp. with latest Linode hacks) for which you use the same credentials as Gox?
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I read somewhere that less than 5% makes it to the local group he asked if the cookies were made OF girls, fyi  Was curious abut this, too... "Q: How does the cookie revenue benefit girls? A: All of the revenue earned from cookie activities —every penny after paying the baker—stays with the local Girl Scout council that sponsors the sale. This includes the portion that goes directly to the group selling cookies. Councils use their cookie revenue to supply essential services to troops, groups, and individual girls, such as providing program resources and communication support, training adult volunteers, and conducting special events. The Girl Scout council's volunteer board of directors: Chooses the baker Determines the price per box Decides how this revenue will be used to provide vital services—such as adult recruitment and training and operation of camps and service centers—and other indirect expenses Decides how much money will be returned to groups selling cookies for their projects and activities Return to Top Q: What portion of the cookie revenue is shared with the group selling cookies? A: This decision is made by each local Girl Scout council, so the portion varies from one council to another. Nationwide, girls receive an estimated 10 – 20% of the purchase price of each box of cookies sold. Cookie proceeds are held in a group or council account and allocated for activities based on the way a girl has joined Girl Scouts, e.g. as a member of a troop, as a special interest group, as a camper, or in a travel group. In many councils girls earn "cookie credit" after a certain number of boxes are sold, which may be used towards council programs, travel or Girl Scout related purchases in the council shop." http://www.girlscouts.org/program/gs_cookies/cookie_faqs.asp#money_where+ "For each box sold, 85 cents per box goes to the baker to cover production, packaging, shipping of the cookies to the troop, and other incidental costs. Out of the remaining $2.65, 50 to 57 cents goes to the selling troop, which will use the funds to cover the cost of programming, community service projects and scholarships, and to offset the cost of participating in Girl Scouts. Of course, then there are the prizes that some troops dole out to their top-selling scouts. Prizes can cost anywhere from 5 to 7 cents per box, says Ceravolo. So if a troop opts to award prizes, they'll get about 50 to 52 cents per box. "But if a troop votes to eliminate prizes, they get about 57 cents per box," she says. Of the remaining funds, about 1 penny per box goes to the neighborhood "service unit" -- another level of scouting -- and stays within the community. The rest goes to the regional council, which is usually comprised of numerous troops that are located near each other, Ceravolo explains. The regional council of Nassau County, for instance, focuses solely on the troops in Nassau County, New York. "The remaining $2.14 to $2.07 is used to fund local programming, support summer camps, train adult volunteers, and so on," says Ceravolo. Contrary to urban legends, the proceeds from Girl Scout cookie sales are not funneled to the national scouting organization. "Girl Scouts of the USA has a deal in place in which they receive royalties directly from the two national bakers of the cookies," Ceravolo says. "The regional councils do not send cookie money to the national organization."" http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/02/06/girl-scout-cookies-by-the-numbers-just-where-do-all-those-dolla/Fwiw. Cheers! |
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It should change at the beginning of each day (server time) and as the max # online during that day increases.
100 online @ 1am on 3/2/12 = 100 max online today
400 online @ 8am on 3/2/12 = 400 max online today
800 online @ 6pm on 3/2/12 = 800 max online today
600 online @ 8pm on 3/2/12 = 800 max online today
150 online @ 1am on 3/3/12 = 150 max online today
Yes, I thought so . What is weird is it went the other way during the day. Meaning 900, 495 ? Not 495, 900 . If you're in the US, server time is probably about "opposite" of what yours is. IIRC, server is hosted either in Hong Kong or Japan. Fwiw. ETA: inb4 European "haha American is so ignorent and self-centered for think that US is where all servers is" |
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It should change at the beginning of each day (server time) and as the max # online during that day increases.
100 online @ 1am on 3/2/12 = 100 max online today
400 online @ 8am on 3/2/12 = 400 max online today
800 online @ 6pm on 3/2/12 = 800 max online today
600 online @ 8pm on 3/2/12 = 800 max online today
150 online @ 1am on 3/3/12 = 150 max online today
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