Are there any style suggestions? Did you make it harder for it to go to 0.01(and to 0.02 if one wanted to wait the 5 min.) or did I just get lucky those few times there. When you say, "Stay there and get more coins!" Does that mean one should leave that new page open in a browser tab and then go back to the original page and open another ad page in a new tab, and just continue that way. I was thinking, before you probably changed some things, that it would be good if the timer kept running while one was on a page opened by clicking on an ad box, so one could spend some time checking out the page instead of rushing back to make sure the timer kept going. I am sure the advertisers would like that as well... but perhaps there is no way to determine that the other tab one is on is actually the one opened by clicking an ad. "Believe" is spelled incorrectly on the news slider on the right btw. I made it harder, because nearly everyone got the special.. and it shoul be a special!! YOu have to stay a minimum of 30 seconds on advertisiers sites before you get a 10% chance to push the coins.. (within 10 clicks) ok.. I think this is a nice idea.. you are right and I try to implement that soon! Thanks for the correction.. I`ll correct it! Thanks for your suggestions No problem. Btw, you can use this address: 1Nudc52nUTCgF9mx1j2hSgMCXQDdxtNdft if any of my suggestions or testing qualifies for that .5btc bounty I noticed you mentioning on your site. you`ll get it if it is implemented.. or if you find some more errors.. But one word is not enough for that bounty at the moment.. Well its been a little more than one word... https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82648.msg926694#msg926694https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=82648.msg928916#msg928916But I'll keep using your site and let you know if there are any other problems.
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I have never seen it down, at least not recently, and I have the order book opened all the time while I am working on the computer and refresh it often throughout the day. But what I would like to know is... who is that Mr. 2.54 filling up the order book and making it less useful with garbage like this: May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD Yes that guy is a goof, he actually thinks it puts people in the dark. I encourage you to use this link to find his top major bid, and slide your bid under it. http://bitcoincharts.com/markets/virtexCAD_depth.htmlThanks for reminding me about that. I will have to make sure to use it more often. And about the owners/managers of Virtex; they used to hang out at #bitcoin-cad using the handles of Grady2000 and virtex I believe. It's been a while since I've logged in there so I am not sure how it is now. Back then I remember people saying how easy it was to just pick up the phone and talk to Grady2000 if there were any concerns. I have never had to wait long for replies to any email I sent their way. Hell, they are even close enough to me that I could probably drive to Calgary and talk to them in person. Hmm, they should do something for the Calgary Stampede week this year. A free pancake breakfast or something. It's the 100 year celebration of the Greatest Outdoor Show on Earth this year, July 6-15.
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Are there any style suggestions? Did you make it harder for it to go to 0.01(and to 0.02 if one wanted to wait the 5 min.) or did I just get lucky those few times there. When you say, "Stay there and get more coins!" Does that mean one should leave that new page open in a browser tab and then go back to the original page and open another ad page in a new tab, and just continue that way. I was thinking, before you probably changed some things, that it would be good if the timer kept running while one was on a page opened by clicking on an ad box, so one could spend some time checking out the page instead of rushing back to make sure the timer kept going. I am sure the advertisers would like that as well... but perhaps there is no way to determine that the other tab one is on is actually the one opened by clicking an ad. "Believe" is spelled incorrectly on the news slider on the right btw. I made it harder, because nearly everyone got the special.. and it shoul be a special!! YOu have to stay a minimum of 30 seconds on advertisiers sites before you get a 10% chance to push the coins.. (within 10 clicks) ok.. I think this is a nice idea.. you are right and I try to implement that soon! Thanks for the correction.. I`ll correct it! Thanks for your suggestions No problem. Btw, you can use this address: 1Nudc52nUTCgF9mx1j2hSgMCXQDdxtNdft if any of my suggestions or testing qualifies for that .5btc bounty I noticed you mentioning on your site.
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Don't tempt me 5.200 CAD = 5.025 USD. Now what was the MtGox price again?
Ya, if only there was a quick and inexpensive way of getting the money back out of MtGox again to continue the cycle... I would be doing a lot more of that.
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I have never seen it down, at least not recently, and I have the order book opened all the time while I am working on the computer and refresh it often throughout the day. But what I would like to know is... who is that Mr. 2.54 filling up the order book and making it less useful with garbage like this: May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD May 29, 2012, 10:08 p.m. 2.54/2.54 5.20000 13.21 CAD
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Are there any style suggestions? Did you make it harder for it to go to 0.01(and to 0.02 if one wanted to wait the 5 min.) or did I just get lucky those few times there. When you say, "Stay there and get more coins!" Does that mean one should leave that new page open in a browser tab and then go back to the original page and open another ad page in a new tab, and just continue that way. I was thinking, before you probably changed some things, that it would be good if the timer kept running while one was on a page opened by clicking on an ad box, so one could spend some time checking out the page instead of rushing back to make sure the timer kept going. I am sure the advertisers would like that as well... but perhaps there is no way to determine that the other tab one is on is actually the one opened by clicking an ad. "Believe" is spelled incorrectly on the news slider on the right btw.
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Thank you for posting this bug.. I`m on it EDIT: Ok.. BUG should be gone now!Thanks for reporting this! Please check it again. If you find any other bugs please report this (either here on this board or to info@fiveminutecoin.com ) I tried it again and I got the 0.02 this time. Thanks. A couple other things... Once when I tried it I got the captcha wrong ( couldn't see the right letters against the background ) so I refreshed the captcha with the circular arrow thingy to the right and tried it again and it gave me a warning message as if I was trying to get a second payment in less than 12hrs. And those operation fabulous ads on either side breaks one out of the page and when one goes back the timer is reset to 300. That might upset some people who might expect them to act like the ads in the boxes.
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Isn't it trivial to detect and shoot down something like that?
Like they say in this article that would be an act of war and a sign of how desperate they are They would not be firing missiles to take it down. THAT would cause attention lol. And the Kessler syndrome.
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Bug
I log in to the site and the Your Coins display shows 0.0025
I click on the ads until the display changes to 0.01
I let the timer run out and the display changes to 0.02
I click on the center box which reads "Click Here To Claim Your Coins" and submit my address etc.
I later check that address to see how much I actually get paid: 0.005
I did this twice to confirm. It only paid out 0.005 both times.
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You subbers can just click the 'notify' link to subscribe and it doesn't muck up the thread (and notify the rest of us that you're subscribing)
that notify-thingy sends a friggin email, man. Do you think I want 100 email per day in my inbox from bitcointalk??? It will only send you 1 email notice until you check into the thread and read the new replies since you were last there.
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I agree with that view and not the view you express, which would tend to make the exchanger look like he is more interested in making a buck then in helping the community he is a part of.
So basically you mean that it is better that there is no cash exchanges, than the alternative where there are cash exchangers who charge fee. Communism was a nice ideology, but it doesn't work in practice I don't see how setting up a decentralized network like is presented in the OP is anything like a centralized - Statist - system like Communism. I am not a communist. That doesn't mean that I look at every situation and relationship I encounter ( especially involving family, friends, neighbors etc. ) as a potential way to make money. I seem to recall etotheipi, the developer of Armory, speaking eloquently on why he wants to keep his client free... Perhaps you could seek out his words if you are still unclear on the concept of being more interested in the good that systems like bitcoin can do for everybody - or at least those communities that one feels a part of - and not just for oneself on a financial level alone. I have nothing against making money, but I am sure I am not alone in feeling that it is not the most important thing in life. Even if one is only interested in making money there are still positives, for oneself, that come from things like philanthropy, and charitable and generous ways of conducting oneself and doing business. Also it is best, I feel, not to think in either/or terms. I am not suggesting that there be only exchangers that don't charge fees and operate in the way the OP gets into. There is room for a lot of alternatives, giving each individual as many choices as possible for a system they feel comfortable in using and supporting.
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A better article would be "How to make easy money by exchanging bitcoins" or even more provocative "How to get rich via running a bitcoin cash exchange".
That goes against the view expressed in that article, "Don’t charge an exchange fee." I agree with that view and not the view you express, which would tend to make the exchanger look like he is more interested in making a buck then in helping the community he is a part of.
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This didn't work: $ wine sierrachartfeed-0.5.exe -s mtgoxUSD cryptoxUSD This should ( at least it does on windows ): $ wine sierrachartfeed-0.5.exe -s mtgoxUSD,cryptoxUSD
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Sorry, but only an idiot would ask such a thing. Instead why not ask, "Is it voluntary?" or "Does it abide by predetermined rules or is it arbitrary and rigged (like the dollar and the banking system)?"
Many components of democracy end up being coercive or rigged. My leftwing pap meter always rises when some clown invokes "democracy." How about focusing of FREEDOM and VOLUNTARY ARRANGEMENTS rather than being concerned with DEMOCRACY! AND LEARN THE DISTINCTION, SHERLOCK!
Ya, and then if we decided to use a word like "voluntary" we would have some idiot shouting, "VOLUNTARY? I WAS ONCE TOLD BY A POLITICIAN THAT X WOULD BE VOLUNTARY AND IT ENDED UP BEING COERCIVE AND RIGGED! I WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH VOLUNTARY!" LOL How about learning the actual meaning of words and then if someone misuses it blame them and not the word?
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This thread is a perfect example of exactly my original point. This thread will never end due to the differing opinions on the semantics of the word "democracy".
"It is better to debate a question without settling it than to settle a question without debating it." In the end, Bitcoin is what it is, and it doesn't matter at all how it's described. I won't argue with that but I think the marketers will beg to differ. In modern times they have made neuro-semantic manipulation an artform and taken it to levels that would shock even Goebbels. But anyway we can end now... hazek has given us truth! or so it seems to me... but i am common... and a weasel... lol
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...someone using Bitcoin as propaganda for that evil ideology is just as bound to happen, and I will have none of it. And then there is the seeming contradiction of your complaining about democracy being only about people ruling over others while you seem to want to rule over others in how they describe bitcoin. i.e. your saying as much as "People must not use the word democratic to describe it!" ( note I said "your saying as much as..." That is not meant as a verbatim quote. ) I don't care if people use that term to describe it or not. I am just offering my opinion that people should be allowed to use that term if they want, since by the proper definition of the term "democratic", bitcoin is democratic in many ways ( if perhaps not in all ways ). I also agree with others that to call it undemocratic is a misrepresentation, although they are free to do so, as much as I and others are free to state our opinion about that, while not going so far as to try and coerce them to stop. This whole thread is a democratic thing, with the poll for people to vote in if they want and the opportunity for everyone to have their say if they so choose. But perhaps it isn't perfect. There are certain forum rules that must be followed, and not everyone might agree with all the various rules, and there is the centralized authority of moderators ( but they seem to be nice rulers pretty much. All hail our forum overlords! lol ) and other things that not everyone agrees with, or has a free choice in... it is still largely democratic just the same. You still seem willing to participate. Do you feel like you were forced to come here against your will and made to state your views in this evil exercise of democracy? tl;dr I am not trying to attack the views of anyone but to defend* "democracy" and democracy.... the word and what it represents. ( *not too actively but just with a few words of support etc. )
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Is that really your best attempt to weasel yourself into justifying calling Bitcoin democratic? It's being supervised by people? The reason why I'm so strictly against calling Bitcoin democratic is because of all the bad things that come with that adjective. I'm sorry to burst anyone's bubble, but there are no [ special ] rights in Bitcoin, there are no entitlements in Bitcoin, there are no groups of people ruling over other groups of people in Bitcoin. ftfy And neither does there have to these things in a democracy as has been pointed out to you now many times. Just because you don't like something that someone inappropriately calls "democracy" and you let them change the meaning of the word for you doesn't mean it still doesn't have the original meaning for most people who use the language. I don't have to justify using it in its proper sense. It is people like you and certain politicians etc. who misuse it who have to justify yourselves. Because believe me, just like nowadays they say "Look at America or Europe, see how capitalism doesn't work?", which is a complete and utter lie since we haven't had capitalism for a long long time If it is a lie then why let them get away with it? Why let them change the meaning of the word? Why give in and let them push you around like that? You say you will have none of it but it seems like it is me and others who you are arguing with are the ones who want to stand up for the proper use of our language. If a politician told you 2+2=5 will you just shrug your shoulders and ask, "But how am I going to balance my checkbook now?"
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From latin the word democracy can be translated as "the people rule." That does not necessarily mean "everything for majority vote" which is the typical definition taught in government run schools. In fact, you can have democracy and no voting. As long as all the rights and privileges one would expect are available to all, then you technically have democracy.
How about democracy being a state of no ruling class, or individuals possessing special rights or status.
Since no one has special right, and every one participates in the operation of bitcoin voluntarily, this may be the closest thing to real democracy possible.
Just remember Democracy does *NOT* equal voting majority. It is a system of people rule. Some idiotic folk see this as "majority rule" and then, majority rule to elect the 'representatives' who then rule over all. Somehow these folk think that will produce a good result (mostly democratic socialists). But is you want to see democratic socialism taken to its natural conclusion...see Greece.
Overtime all the facets of government have become corrupted with patronage and special status granting. Thats right, in a people rule system, somehow, we go back to the elite living off the fat of the land at the expense of the at large populous. There are different tax rates depending on what profession you work, special taxes for certain things, but not others. Thats just the tip of the iceberg. But it is definately a 'who you know' situation in Greece.
That's what's magical about bitcoin. It matters not who you know or how big your wallet file is.
+1 Bitcoin isn't ruled by people, not 1% or 51% or 99% or 100%, hence not a democracy. You don't need to be so strict in your definitions. Instead of "rule" in its most nasty connotation it can be seen as, and takes the form as in certain real world applications, as "supervised." Bitcoin is supervised by computer systems, which are supervised by the common people. That is a good thing. And about the notion, brought up by a few here, that we should not use certain words because politicians misuse them all the time... What? We want those politicians to rule over us and push us around and keep us from using perfectly good words? Instead of letting them get away with the misuse I would prefer to see people speak up and point these things out. This is the information age. We can use it to our advantage like with systems like bitcoin. We can speak to power. We can neutralize their propaganda with education and reasoned argument, without needing to be insecurely belligerent about it either. We don't need to bow down to them and let them redefine our world with their doublespeak and all the rest. We can see the man behind the curtain... let us tell everyone instead running away... we can see how powerless and frightened he really is. We don't need to fight him but just recognize our own power... not a power over others but a power to be what we want to be, without the need of the hand-holding of a nanny state protecting us and powerful centralized masters keeping us in line.
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