Bitcoin Forum
July 12, 2024, 11:43:37 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 27.0 [Torrent]
 
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 ... 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 [232] 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 ... 460 »
4621  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: FOMO seizure - the cracks are already starting to show... on: April 03, 2019, 08:55:28 PM
Look like the problem comes directly from one of their partners. which makes the problem even more complicated
because you can't do anything, other than to wait for the partner to fix the problem, either because your infrastructure is too large or something else.
Which can also mean you just have to start looking for a new partner. And it often ends  like this when you need to be pro active.
4622  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bull market is back? on: April 03, 2019, 08:01:04 PM
Guys, even Bitcoin cash is performing at +55% today on CCM  Cheesy It's like Christmas for BCH trolls I guess.
By the way, anyone noticed how the 24h change becomes higher. We were at about 5%-10% and now on average at 20%. If this continues the price could hit the $6,000 during the next week. Cool
4623  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Re: Résumé pour la fiscalité et les cryptos on: April 03, 2019, 05:55:45 PM
Seulement si il y a eu une convertion en euros. Je crois même qu'il faut que l'argent ai été rapartrié sur un compte bancaire.

Dans la cas dont tu parles, "qd j'ai échangé des cryptos entre elles c'était pq je devais par exemple acheter du bitcoin avant de pouvoir acheter du PundiX". Lorsque tu vas déclarer tes gains ou pertes tu es censé pouvoir être en mesure de fournir toutes les transactions qui ont servi à ce resultat.
En gros, faut garder l'historique des transactions BTC/PundixP puis PundixP/BTC et BTC/€

Quote
Pour la déclaration concernant 2019 : Est-ce que l'on doit décrire tous nos mouvements (j'ai les .csv) même si on a 0 plus value et que l'echange crypto / crypto n'est plus pris en compte ?
Ben un moment donné ou un autre tu vas bien convertir en euros donc:
Faut imaginer qu'une personne qui te controle doit etre capable de tracer toute ton activité. Faut donc etre en mesure de pouvoir prouvé d'ou vient l'argent, et qu'est ce que tu en as fais.

historique/reference du transfer bancaire qui t'as servi a acheter
historique et reference des trades que tu as fais au fil des mois
historique et reference des transfers bancaire vers ton compte bancaire

La, tout de suite, je suis en train de me demander comment ils pourraient savoir notre investissement de depart. Même si ils utilisent le big data et l'IA, ils sont pas censés savoir si quelqu'un a utilisé paypal ou autre chose pour investir.
Quote
Comment cela "en théorie" ??
Chaque cession ?
T'as pas de declaration a faire si y'a pas d imposition, et pas d imposition si pas de plus value.
Quote
III. – Lorsque la plus-value est exonérée en application du II des articles 150 U et 150 UA ou par l'application de l'abattement prévu au I de l'article 150 VC ou lorsque la cession ne donne pas lieu à une imposition, aucune déclaration ne doit être déposée sauf dans le cas où l'impôt sur le revenu afférent à la plus-value en report d'imposition est dû.
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?idArticle=LEGIARTI000027978330&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006069577&dateTexte=20130921&oldAction=rechCodeArticle

Quote
Ici je ne sais pas si l'article se trompe ou non, vous me direz ce que vs en pensez. Mais il y a cet amendement : http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/dyn/15/amendements/1255C/AN/2523 qui dit que :
C'est la meme chose. c'est que des gens doivent se dire, je declare en 2020, pour l'année 2019, alors qu'avec ce projet de loi finance, ca commence direct, donc les prochains impots on est concerné.
4624  Economy / Speculation / Re: A positive month for traders on: April 03, 2019, 04:54:06 PM
Only 2 days, I would prefer to wait more days to confirm the trend. Maybe by Friday, the value will decrease as if nothing happened. Hopefully, it invigorates the market and stimulates investors, old and news.
Still, nobody knows what happened
4625  Other / Meta / Re: Suggestion for the Admin (Admin please read) on: April 03, 2019, 03:38:35 PM
I don't find advertisements on Bitcointalk too intrusive. But if you're bothered with it you can disable avatars and signatures in your profile settings in "Look and Layout Preferences". Not sure if it's a feature that depends on the user's rank, I noticed it long ago, take a look at it.
4626  Local / Le Bitcoin et la loi / Résumé pour la fiscalité et les cryptos on: April 03, 2019, 01:59:39 PM
Pour résumer un article sur la crypto et la fiscalité.

Nos comptes des plateformes d"echange doivent être déclarés maintenant et pas en 2020 (formulaire 3916). Au risque de se voir attribuer une amende comme on en avait déja parlé sur d'autres topics.

Pour les mineurs, pas de surpise, ils sont imposés en BNC.

Pour les plus values de 2018 il faut appliquer le regime de bien meubles. (En 2019 c'est taxé au taux unique de 30% (avec les prélèvements sociaux)). Faut mettre ca dans la partie 3 (plus-values de cession de valeurs mobilières, droits sociaux et gains assimilés). Le Tresor Public pourrait aussi demander de reporter toutes transactions de l'année N-1, donc prévoir...
Il y a exonération d’imposition lorsque la plus value est inférieure ou égale à 305€ (mais pas d'exonération de déclaration bien sûr)

Code Général des Impots
Quote
La plus ou moins-value brute réalisée lors de la cession de biens ou droits mentionnés au I est égale à la différence entre, d'une part, le prix de cession et, d'autre part, le produit du prix total d'acquisition de l'ensemble du portefeuille d'actifs numériques par le quotient du prix de cession sur la valeur globale de ce portefeuille

Si c'est pour déclarer les airdrops/bounties et companies c'est la case "revenus exceptionnel ou différé"

Le code des impots définissant les crypto actifs semble être ambigu, les privacy coins pourraient être exclus du terme "crypto actif" et donc la taxation qui va avec.



4627  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC might do something nice soon. TA only ( No crystal Ball/s) on: April 03, 2019, 01:18:20 PM
...

Possibly, unless this rumor is true. Reuters: Bitcoin jumps 20 percent, mystery order seen as catalyst. In such case, the BTC could drop to what it was 2-3 days ago. But the last time such an event occurred was in 2015, just before the Bitcoin began its nice rise.  Maybe Bitcoin could reproduce the same thing.
4628  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-04-02] Ukraine’s Capital Kiev May Soon Accept Bitcoin for Public Transport on: April 02, 2019, 07:25:45 PM
This is exactly the kind of news showing Bitcoin adoption for everyday use. Moreover, coming from a government is a bit like officially accepting it. In addition, over time, they may extend it for something else, such as a city in Canada that accepts few cryptos to pay taxes. Especially since the securities chairman called for the legalization of cryptos there is a good chance to become a real crypto friendly city
4629  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Worst case if I submit my passport to an exchange? on: April 02, 2019, 06:33:34 PM
Your personal information could be sold on the web. You can't know if the site can be hacked in the future. for example and since you talk about Bittrex, if I'm correct, it has lost some data years ago. Someone could duplicate your passport, go to a bank to open n account and get a loan within 24 hours. And you will be the one with the problem, even if you can prove to the bank someone used your identity, it can be a real nightmare.
4630  Economy / Economics / Re: Hedge funds with public ROI? on: April 02, 2019, 04:50:05 PM
Most of the funds publish their performances from the last 5 years at least. That's how they attract people, otherwise, nobody would take a look at something that can't clearly explain its performances to let people judging.
And of course, they publish the ROI to let shareholders know their dividends.
4631  Economy / Speculation / Re: So what do we think of thing continuous gradual rise of Bitcoin recently? on: April 02, 2019, 05:32:49 AM
What's going on with Bitcoin this morning? Yesterday it was $4150 and this morning when I woke up with my coffee I see that the price is at $4,700. A few minutes later I refresh the page and it is almost $4,900. You want me to die or what?
Seriously speaking, what happened during the night?
4632  Local / Échanges / Re: Modification sur kraken on: April 01, 2019, 05:59:54 PM
Je viens de re-vérifier et pour ma part le seul email de leur part date du 27 Mars.

Maintenant je me suis posé cette question:
- Je suis utilisateur vérifié Tier 2 donc je leur ai juste donné mon nom, date de naissance, adresse, mais je n'ai jamais envoyé de document officiel. Autrement dit, c'est pas un compte vraiment vérifier comme ca devrait l'être en suivant les KYC/AML correctement.

... Pas assez vérifié pour avoir à le déclarer aux centre des impots comme le prevoit la directive sur la crypto.?

http://www.assemblee-nationale.fr/15/amendements/1255C/AN/2523.asp
https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCodeArticle.do?idArticle=LEGIARTI000037988279&cidTexte=LEGITEXT000006069577

Quote
Les personnes physiques, les associations, les sociétés n'ayant pas la forme commerciale, domiciliées ou établies en France, sont tenues de déclarer, en même temps que leur déclaration de revenus ou de résultats, les références des comptes d'actifs numériques mentionnés à l'article 150 VH bis ouverts, détenus, utilisés ou clos auprès d'entreprises, personnes morales, institutions ou organismes établis à l'étranger.

Ce qui fait que je n'aurais rien a déclarer aux impots (au niveau compte d echanges, web wallets, etc) sachant que je suis vérifié nul part.
4633  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-31] Bitcoin [BTC] ETF: SEC stalls proposal yet again; decision pushed.. on: April 01, 2019, 05:36:51 PM
No matter how hard they tried (VanEck/CBOE ETF), or any other company, they are very well aware of the SEC attitude toward bitcoin. Some then wonder why they try, when they know that they will eventually be denied? Because they (SEC) do not approve SUCH things overnight, and all applicants will simply try it, until they finally achieve success.

Prediction of various experts say that the first bitcoin ETF will have to wait for several years which is not bad, whether we admit it or not, it's too early for such ETH. Regardless of the new expected delay, it's interesting to read what SEC think about some future events :

Quote
On one hand, SEC officials do not place trust in the cryptocurrency markets, on the other, they believe a bull-run is imminent. Valarie Szczepanik, the SEC’s digital asset advisor stated that the “crypto-spring” was imminent, but maintained the need for regulatory oversight.
Because it costs nothing to try, at worst a rejection but as you can renew it...it also shows their determination to see it accepted.
Anyway, if the market becomes too large, the SEC will have no choice but to approve it, because, in the end, it is better to have some control over this market than none.
" ...they believe a bull-run is imminent..." We knew it before they did.
4634  Economy / Speculation / Re: BTC might do something nice soon. TA only ( No crystal Ball/s) on: April 01, 2019, 12:52:22 PM
@mikeywith
Sunday is gone and BTC is at $4,150. Now, I am interested to see how the week will be. if Bitcoin could continue on this path it would be nice to get it at $4,2k-$4,3k.
Something that could be nice as well is to not see BTC failing under the $4,100.
4635  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: [VIDEO] - BITCOIN Technical Analysis April - TARGET $5,000 ? Today on: April 01, 2019, 12:37:09 PM
I read this morning a news' headline that said the SEC has approved an ETF, I didn't check the source nor read the article. But if this is true it will certainly boost the Bitcoin's value (up to what level the whole issue is there) and OP could be right that the price will go up to $5,000 which would be nice anyway.

Edit: I checked the news I talked about and it was an April joke, f**k lol.
4636  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Signature Campaigns taxes on: April 01, 2019, 12:15:53 PM
Here too it is a little complicated to know how to consider it and therefore how to declare it. When you make an appointment at the tax department they don't know how to answer you and don't know who to contact for a reliable answer. We are currently in the process of declaring it in one of our sections that can be described as "extra earnings", as long as it does not exceed a certain amount annualy otherwise you are considered professional. (facepalm). I don't even dare to think for the companies that transact with cryptos from their customers.


Care to say where are you from? I would like to know how it goes for you, keep us posted. It would be useful to know what amount are you selling. I know its none of your business but its really relevant to know what to expect depending on which amounts are being dealt with. Typically the higher the amount the deeper the audit I would guess.

Another point that could be made is.. assuming you present screenshots of the payments for the forum posts, couldn't they just know your entire earnings? they would know your forum account and thus figure the entire history, so you would need to sell the entire stack? What if I just don't want to and want to keep it and only sell a small %? All these things keep me up at night, I just don't know what to do to be honest.

The conclusion thus far for me is that governments have no idea what they are doing neither do accountants, so there's really nowhere to go in terms of safety, other than not doing anything and deciding what to do in the future.



I report it as an income. It was the best thing to do in my case. I preferred to think large, so even if I'm wrong, in the worst case they will have to pay me money as a refund. I won't be blamed for trying to hide an income. Which is getting more and more difficult in France anyway, especially since now they use big data to hunt down fraud and all that.
The good thing is I am paying about 6% only (instead of ~35%). and to be safe I keep track of every trade I do with it ref # etc. since the govt now ask us to report every crypto exchange account (or a fine of 750€ if I'm correct)
4637  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Stop Comparisation with BTC and Other Payments Methods. on: April 01, 2019, 12:00:28 PM
People don't care about centralized or decentralized and they're not really interested to know.

What matter for them is how user-friendly and easy is it to use. Since people mention Paypal here take a look at the company. It's so easy and convenient to use than even grand'pa can use it. That's why it's the most popular payment processor to use online.
Then, take a look at Visa (or any other network) it's easy to use, you don't even need your PIN with NFC, you can customize the settings and so on. People have a card in their pocket and can pay for everything. (almost)
For centuries we have adapted to new currency forms (and payment methods) according to the history's periods and how convenient it was to use at that time.

Bitcoin also has to compete with that, if people have to use a Linux Terminal to send a Tx and it takes 4 hrs nobody will adopt it. Currently, BTC cannot compete with Visa for sure but what I know is with the R&D you will never know what BTC can do in the future (let's say in 10 years from now, which will come fast)
4638  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Binance a “high” regulatory risk on: April 01, 2019, 11:29:26 AM
A clear policy is a lot more than just asking your ID card and it is true that some exchanges are rather lenients about it. The European Union will regulate all this, through new directives concerning KYC/AML. This is something we already know, there have already been several reports to this during the last 2-3 years. The EU will try to regulate the industry the same as it does with the banking industry, don't worry about it. We're more or less prepared, even Bitcointalk requires KYC Tongue

The problem for companies is that there are no clear directives common to the whole European Union, which also makes the task more difficult, at least more so than for the directives of their country in which they're registered.
For people, we must, of course, follow our local laws but we become limited by European laws... once again...(like with many others industries btw).

This is a "high" regulatory risk but like many other exchanges, and just because this company generates large volumes it does not make it riskier than another. BTC-e is a good example to remember.
To take the case of Binance, anyway, it will be regulated at the highest level, similar to banks as I said, but all the others will have to follow as well.

@NeuroticFish
Binance works with fiat (EURO) via Binance Jersey
4639  Local / Échanges / pr on: April 01, 2019, 03:37:43 AM
J'ai rien recu a ce sujet, et etant moi meme Tier 2 je peux toujours effectuer des transactions en fiat. A part le changement avec le 2FA j'ai rien vu d autre, tu ne te serai pas trompé? Si c'est le cas je pense que je vais pour ma part chercher une autre alternative

Tier 2*   
Deposit (fiat)      $2,000.00
Deposit (crypto)      No limit
Withdraw (fiat)      $2,000.00
Withdraw (crypto)      $5,000.00
Deposit (fiat)      $10,000.00
Deposit (crypto)      No limit
Withdraw (fiat)      $10,000.00
Withdraw (crypto)      $50,000.00
4640  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-03-29] Canadian Municipality Set to Accept Bitcoin for Property Tax Paymen on: March 31, 2019, 06:07:48 PM
They aren't accepting cryptos, they're accepting to use the 3rd party (CoinBerry) so the folks can accept to pay their property tax in cryptos. That makes a huge difference.
I don't know if it's to answer the demand, but I don't think people are interested in using their coins to pay taxes, especially if it's a Bitcoin bought at $20,000. It's better to keep your coins and wait for the market to pick up.
Pages: « 1 ... 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 [232] 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 ... 460 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!