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4621  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Question for Miners on: May 31, 2023, 12:56:32 PM
This is an excerpt from the bitcoin white paper about bitcoin network and by extension mining written by the renowned founder Satoshi Nakamoto.

Quote
5. Network
The steps to run the network are as follows:
1) New transactions are broadcast to all nodes.
2) Each node collects new transactions into a block.
3) Each node works on finding a difficult proof-of-work for its block.
4) When a node finds a proof-of-work, it broadcasts the block to all nodes.
5) Nodes accept the block only if all transactions in it are valid and not already spent.
6) Nodes express their acceptance of the block by working on creating the next block in the
chain, using the hash of the accepted block as the previous hash.

This is just straightforward question, can a miner decide which transaction to accept into a block and which to reject? And is there any consequence for rejecting a transaction? If this were possible what happens to the rejected transactions?

https://www.bitcoin.com/bitcoin.pdf

Yes which means the top pools could reject all tx under 50 sats a byte

Thus forcing all tx to cost a shit ton of btc.

if the top five pools choose to act like Opec would do with oil prices you would be paying high tx fees all the time.

As a miner if this list is accurate

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer



Foundry USA--------31.613%

AntPool--------------20.000%

F2Pool---------------15.484%

Binance Pool--------  8.548%

ViaBTC--------------  7.903%

the top pools make over 83% of the blocks

As of 12noon today they could all reject any tx under 50 sats a byte

this would result in tx fees going up bigly

and as a miner I would not switch from them as I would be earning more money and moving to the lessor pools would mean lower fees and slow block earning as 17% of the hash is not very many blocks.

The only thing that could help would be very robust LN network.
4622  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer S19 Troubleshooting on: May 31, 2023, 03:22:13 AM

very simple fix buy a replacement fan.

replace the fan


it will work.

i have had this happen with

s7
s9
s15
s17
s19
4623  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2023, 02:49:27 AM
buddy be breaking 28k
4624  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 31, 2023, 01:47:50 AM
whats coming next buddy?
4625  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners Should Consider the Lower Transaction Fees on: May 30, 2023, 10:17:13 PM
that would be $ 3.18 a tx

the only thing that would hold it in check would be LN
4626  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Miners Should Consider the Lower Transaction Fees on: May 30, 2023, 10:08:13 PM
And to completely blow your mind a pool can white list whatever tx they want to.

Ie a large pool say ant pool makes 25% of the blocks.

If they want to they can whitelist only tx at 2 sats a byte

or 54 sats a byte now it sounds crazy as to why they may want to.

They could block the tx's by refusing all but 300+ sats a byte.

Now 1 pool with 25% is not enough to really kill off all ex's but the top 3 pools could slow the chain down bigly.

Quote
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/charts/pools

...

Miner / Pool  Percent

Foundry USA  30.882%
AntPool.         20.915%
F2Pool            16.176%
Binance Pool     8.333%
ViaBTC             7.190%

Unknown         4.739%

Mara Pool.            3.268%
Braiins Pool          2.288%
BTC.com              2.124% ...


Between whitelist and black list those pools

Could wreak havoc with the tx fee structure.

Just think if the top 5 which have 83% of the hash set blacklist of all tx under 50 sats a byte

miners won't switch from them cause 50 sats a bye = 50 x 2 mill or 1 btc a block

anyone remember the power opec had over oil prices well the fees of blocks could well be like oil and those top pools could blacklist any tx they want .

50 sats and up could start tomorrow.

so 50 x 227 = 0.00011350 btc would be lowest amount for a tx
4627  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 30, 2023, 06:04:41 PM
A nice attempt at a bull run over the weekend but couldn’t get us back to $30K. It does seem like the pressure building is on the buy side though. I wouldn’t be surprised if we saw another jump up this week. The market seems to have decided the bottom is in the rear view. With mtgox making more progress towards distribution, the hurdles are becoming few and further between.

Well budget deal may pass.

And a fed pivot will come soon how soon don't know but soon.

I figure

June 14 +0.25%
July  26 +0.25%

Sept 20  0% Rally for 3 months
Nov.   1 -25%  
Dec  13 -25%.  end year near 45-50k

But as JJG says what do I know.

Oh we built mine from 1.3ph sept 2022 to 2.8ph right now and we go to 3.2ph in a week

we will be over 4ph in Sept.


I am hoping we mirror 2015 jump in price

Jan Sept 2015 200-250

Nov June 2015-2016  400-500

so we could be Jan 2023- sept  17k-31k
Nov-June 2024  34k-60k

all as a precursor to big 2025 rally 100K+
4628  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New cooling setup for my asic room. on: May 30, 2023, 04:41:12 PM
[...]
they pull 6,600 watts each so 20kwatts

ours pull 2,500 so 2x = 5 kwatts

That's around 3x reduction in the power. Well, 60,000 BTU/h seems reasonable power to cool down the entire system

I was thinking how about you place another blue fan at the entrance. Obviously it will get much noisy as it could but can push air constantly as compared to the conventional fan that has been installed at the entrance.

Going further if you are anyways trying to experiment various methods of cooling then how about doing this:

1. Install a blue fan with 60,000 BTU output.
2. You will need to build a skeleton frame which will cover the entire back of blue fan.
3. Look for the HoneyComb Pads OR also called as Winter Mattress in some regions.
a. These are water compatible sheets, you can deep them in water or somehow circulate water stream through it. Once the blue fan sucks air, this time it will suck pre-cooled air.
b. This can increase the efficiency of cooling to many folds and it will cost you no significant energy.



No dice on swamp cooler. Town has poor water with tons of sediment.

Hard to use swamp cooler in a tight spot.

Out other room has a hessaire swamp cooler it works well because we keep a distance with it so the sediment does not coat the gear with calcium deposits.

Als we want to keep that open door closed.  But will will use a 5000 cfm blue fan to pump air in to the room.

look to right side of this photo we will pump in 500 cfm on corner

4629  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New cooling setup for my asic room. on: May 30, 2023, 04:36:03 PM
Very cool insights into your crypto mining operation! In what weather conditions do you live that require such extensive amounts of cooling?
Also what I would be interested in, is if you ever thought about using the excess heat in the winter to heat some office/production space nearby, or is this not possible with your setup?


we heat the entire warehouse for free.  The mining room is 8 by 20 power closet. Say 160 square feet.

That 160 square feet has over 500,000 BTU of heat.

The warehouse is about 40,000 square feet.

It stays toasty in the winter spring and fall.



4630  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New cooling setup for my asic room. on: May 30, 2023, 12:16:34 PM
That’s amazing set up you have got. I can see standing fan on the entrance side while blue 5000 cfm fan on the other side of the room. So logically you are pushing Cool air from one end and sucking the hot air out of the room with blue fan.

But how about cooling the entire room with Air conditioner. I’m just adding up this because the room is pretty closed one and can get cooled down pretty fast.

That’s just traditional way, but I’m sure you might have thought about it already and there are some issues with direct room cooling?

the gear puts out 500,000 btu

we do have 2 ac's each are 36000 btu total of 72000 btu

we would need to use a lot more power to push say 180,000 btu of ac

3 of these is likely the most we can do

https://www.movincool.com/climate-pro-k-series/climate-pro-k60/

they pull 6,600 watts each so 20kwatts

ours pull 2,500 so 2x = 5 kwatts

I did more work yesterday but forgot to photo it

I am going back in a few days I will photo more.
4631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: May 29, 2023, 02:25:36 AM

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com


Buddy be whaling.
4632  Economy / Speculation / Re: Automated posting on: May 29, 2023, 01:06:51 AM

Explanation
Chartbuddy thanks talkimg.com


here we go buddy here we go!
4633  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2023, 11:36:34 PM

Sorry, but no matter how you want to disguise a blob fish. It will always be ted cruise's first cousin. Not a liberal or a leftist Grin



Are you sure?



oh oh the secret is out the far right and far left are wait for it :

one in the same.  they both have  blob face as a first cousin.

But her nose is less the part than ted's nose. Grin
4634  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2023, 11:07:02 PM
no jinx buddy delivered 28k+
4635  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2023, 10:52:02 PM
28k go buddy
4636  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Am I right about this or not on: May 28, 2023, 10:15:38 PM
Guys correct me if I am wrong, somebody ask me a question about what will happen to bitcoin miners after all available bitcoin have been mined and no more halving every four years, will miners go out of business? This is the question I was asked and I believe that miners are the reason why transactions are been processed, right? correct me if I am wrong though,  I believe that even after all the 21 million coins are mined, Bitcoin miners will still be here because they are the reason why transactions are going through or am I wrong?

The reward to fee ratio has changed bigly.

50 reward .02 fees
25 reward .04 fees
12.5 reward .08 fees
6.25 reward .15 fees

those are average fee numbers.

I think by 2056 we will have issues with very low rewards and fees will not cover the miners
4637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2023, 09:38:03 PM
Have some FUD  Grin

https://decrypt.co/142306/ron-desantis-tells-elon-musk-bitcoin-will-die-if-joe-biden-is-reelected


"Ron DeSantis Tells Elon Musk Bitcoin Will Die If Joe Biden Is Reelected
His comments came toward the end of a technically challenged Twitter Spaces conversation."

it is a few days old but made me laugh.

Joe Biden = BTC killer.  Grin

... Biden won't be reelected. It's still puzzling how he managed to get elected in the first place. ...

puzzling, if one trusts the election process.

imo many elections with a near 50/50 result might be rigged. (you cheat just enough to get your candidate in, hence a near 50/50 results)

US '20
Brazil '22
Turkey '23

...are some candidates


well Biden had 306 and trump had 232 electoral votes not close to 50/50

biden had 81,000,000 + votes and trump had 74,000,000 plus votes not close to 50/50


the issue in the USA that allow fixing is electoral votes. not actual.

since there are 538 electoral votes  and you need 270 to 268

all you need to do is win a your states by 1 vote and you can your opponent can win their states by millions


hillary vs trump --- trump lost the popular vote.
gore vs bush --- bush lost the popular vote.

and all 50 states have different rules for voting for the president reality is the USA is not very united at all .  It is heading for a fall.  I am hoping to die before that happens. I am 66 maybe USA falls apart in 2024. we will see.
4638  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
Have some FUD  Grin

https://decrypt.co/142306/ron-desantis-tells-elon-musk-bitcoin-will-die-if-joe-biden-is-reelected


"Ron DeSantis Tells Elon Musk Bitcoin Will Die If Joe Biden Is Reelected
His comments came toward the end of a technically challenged Twitter Spaces conversation."

it is a few days old but made me laugh.

Joe Biden = BTC killer.  Grin
4639  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 51% attack on Bitcoin on: May 28, 2023, 06:31:12 PM
Try to do the 51% attack with money is not the right approach, because if the main mining pools organize to do the attack then the cost would be close to zero. Right now the main pool is Foundry USA with 33.8% of the network, the second one is F2Pool with 17.5% and in 3rd place we have AntPool with 16.9% of the network. So, if Fundry USA buys or collaborates with F2Pool or Antpool, they will have more than 51% of the network and they would be able to do the attack. Simple as that.

But if you think that you can spend billions in miners to get the 51% of the network, that is not possible. There are not enough miners in the market for this.

Almost totally agree pools would be the ones to do it.  And you would need top four or five to agree to do it.  Plus they need to do it for quite a while.  weeks not days.

If it started people would leave the pools. My measly 3 ph would go to a small pool and we would need quite a few small pools to pick up the slack.

 I suppose the developers could stop the chain. Not so sure how they can but I am thinking they can
4640  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: May 28, 2023, 06:24:29 PM

Sorry, but no matter how you want to disguise a blob fish. It will always be ted cruise's first cousin. Not a liberal or a leftist Grin

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