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4621  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: List of Gambling Platforms. on: April 09, 2020, 01:43:32 AM
Would be nice if you could add a short description about each one.

Or if each person making their suggestions could produce a short 20-40 word description so people know what they're looking for. e.g. a discussion about the best features of the casino, the available games, its house edge and referral commission amount etc.

Would love to see this thread developed some more. I do think crypto-games.net should be number 1 though since it's one of the oldest casinos around and extremely well respected.
Agree to this one so that members of this forum or others would able to read up on what are the features of such gambling site.It would be good if it would be columned
and differentiate in regards to house edge, withdrawal fees, type of games it do have etc.

Ive seen that most of gambling sites that are popular are already suggested and even new ones which is nice to look at yet this would provide more option
to those people who do plan to play gambling specially now that physical gambling sites had been temporarily closed.
4622  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Suggestions for online gamblers on: April 09, 2020, 12:14:38 AM
as far as I know when you use borrowed money to gamble it will only make you more stressed when you experience losses and failures when gambling, it's better to use money that is really not very used so that when you lose then if you lose your assets won't be too frustrated.
Indeed. We just force ourselves too much if we gamble with borrowed money. What for? There is no guarantee to win big prizes with borrowed money. We must remember that gambling isn't an investment, it is more likely a luck game. As it is luck-based, it is better to play with what we can afford. Borrowing money will be too risky, on the next attempts we may get more losses. Just stop playing when no money for gambling anymore.
It would be more worth for a borrowed money to be invested rather than on using it on gambling.Its true that it isnt worth the risk because gambling cant give out guarantees for you to win for you to be able to repay the loan you have taken.So its just totally dumb if you do consider out this option just for you to play.. Gambling is for entertainment and this had been said for a million times imho..
but people do treat the other way around and having false hopes that they can make themselves hell of a rich guy when they do hit up a jackpot which is almost nearly impossible.
4623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is the bottom in? Shill your guaranteed investment? on: April 08, 2020, 11:35:03 PM
Corona, FED, dump, stocks crash, BTC -50%, wtf? ... uncharted waters .. what are you traders up to? Quarantined and looking at charts?

Nothing dumps forever as we looked on the current condition of crypto market which is slowly recovering but other traditional markets are still on reds.

I cant say that the bottom was in 3800+ yet we arent still far way into that level but lucky for those who bought to those prices yet getting almost 100% gain
on a short span of time.

Bottom in? or guaranteed investment? Theres no such thing but all matter if you do risk up to buy when everything is on red.
4624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do some gamblers actually win? on: April 08, 2020, 10:59:44 PM
Obviously, most gamblers over a long distance will have a negative balance (losses). But some of them will be in plus even after thousands of bets. This is explained purely mathematically: out of a million players, someone (purely by accident) makes an almost always successful bet.
Those who suffer from gambling addiction will understand your arguments and will agree with the mentioned points. House edge melts the risk/reward ratio and beating the house edge is impossible. Every possibility is calculated statistically, long term gambling is not fun, it is called gambling addiction. That is why everyone suggests gambling when you feel boring or emotionally drained with money management.
If you do earn for profits then expect for that kind of behavior because people do seek entertainment wont mind if they do loss or not as long they do able to get the fun the do seek.
Of course there are gamblers that do actually win but we know the ratio of losers is high compared to it.Money making is what most people do target of thats why in the end of the day
most of them or majority being wrecked up by the house and this is why gambling industry is profitable due to this kind of behavior of most people.
4625  Economy / Economics / Re: Btc going to 2k or 3k or 7k or 9k on: April 08, 2020, 10:28:33 PM
You're only going to speculate on the price and nothing else. If you ask hundred people this question, none of them knows where the price of bitcoin is heading to so they are only going to be guessing, some would say that it would keep crashing while others will say the opposite, so no one is really sure about the price of Bitcoin.

As of now the price has been stable around 6800 USD , when it goes up or down, before the closing it returns to the same price range of 6500 USD. It has been progressing to 7,000 USD and I'm hoping that it keeps going up and not fall back which may lead to 9000 levels in coming days.
Indeed, it is only an estimate or a prediction that everyone can say prices are different but they will not be able to determine exactly where prices will move, but at least experience will teach them a lesson and when at that time or at a large decline occurs at least prices can afford survive in the range of 5k, at least I think it is a good sign that of course the price will not fall deeper until the recovery occurs as of now prices continue to recover slowly.
This had been always an unpredictable market and thats why people do keep speculating on what would be the price ahead.We do keep telling things something like
if it would break ATH or would go down to levels which we dont expect.Just like on what happen on dumping from 10k to 3k+ price which we havent anticipated.
Even those so-called popular or famous people do make their own speculation towards price but none of them can exactly pinpoint on where would prices would go
and thats how unpredictable the market is.
4626  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight on: April 08, 2020, 05:31:54 PM
Im also a gambler that do love underdogs specially when you do able to see some chances for them to beat up the favorites.I also did bet on Donaire,not only just because of the interesting odds but also
i do see that he do have the guns to beat out Inoue but as said he slowed down on later rounds or his stamina was too short for last part of rounds which makes a toll into his fighting.
That's true, and I think in all the boxers that Inoue have fought, it's only on Donaire that he struggle a bit, if he was not smart enough to use his jab, he could lose in the game because Donaire is very good with this counter punching. Inoue is very discipline, we can see that on his previous fight that's why i also like him, but for me the odds is more important.
This is what i like with Inoue is that he's too disciplined to wait up some good chances to strike.I wont deny that i do underestimate him
at first glance but watching all the fighting history of this kid then i do simply tell to myself that this is indeed pure talent.

Obviously because he has a very high KO percentage, of his 19 wins, 16 of it are won by KO.
And he has a higher rank compared to casimero, actually top 3 in the pound for pound ranking, that's a big achievement if Casimero would beat Inoue.
It would really be a big accomplishment to any fighter to beat up a higher rank and also it would also boost up popularity which might give out more opportunities in that case.
So its just normal for Casimero to take this one seriously.
4627  Economy / Exchanges / Re: "False crypto exchange traffic volume?" on: April 07, 2020, 11:32:44 PM
The exchanges manipulate the coin prices and there is no regulation for measuring the real vs fake data. Lack of regulation makes it hard to track and request the real data, IMHO. Probably Binance will help to fight against the wash trading after buying CMC.
We cant still be assured if CMC would really be changed up much specially now that they had been bought by Binance.Lets see if they do make up some changes
in regards to that issue and that would really be great for everybody if these fake volume and numbers would really be get rid of but honestly it isnt really that
much of an issue yet experienced eyes can easily detect which one is fake and which is isnt by just basing on exchange reputation alone.
4628  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Inoue vs Casimero Bantamweight Unification Fight on: April 07, 2020, 10:29:26 PM
No, not everybody is expecting Donaire to win that fight with Inoue, in fact he was the underdog on the bookies, that makes the fight interesting and exciting. The odds were really tempting and given the capabilities of Donaire to knock out opponents with just a punch, many bet for him, including me of course. He may have lost the fight but he also exposed Inoue's weakness which is a good baseline for the Casimero camp.
Exactly, it was only interesting to his fan, and actually I put my bet on Donaire to win as I was tempted with the odds and I am not so familiar with Inoue yet and during that night I was quite confident that Donaire will win when he had a good start, but in the later rounds, that's where his real age showed, he got slowed down and that suffer a knock down. It was a good fight trying to win back my lose here betting on Casimero, same situation, underdog.

Right, I was cheering for Donaire back then and hoping for a knock out. I still believed in his left hook, sadly it was not enough as Inoue was really very good and Donaire started to slow down in the later round. Going back to the topic, Casimero will really have to be mentally tough against Inoue  and just take this downtime to prepare and strategise, watch video of Donaire vs Inoue and look for some weaknesses.
Im also a gambler that do love underdogs specially when you do able to see some chances for them to beat up the favorites.I also did bet on Donaire,not only just because of the interesting odds but also
i do see that he do have the guns to beat out Inoue but as said he slowed down on later rounds or his stamina was too short for last part of rounds which makes a toll into his fighting.
When it comes to punching power then you can really say that Inoue shouldnt really be taken easily.
4629  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I realise Coronavirus is not a reason why on: April 07, 2020, 09:23:00 PM
I think that's normal for the people to panic sell their holding in bitcoin or any other digital coins. Some of us are shocked when the price of the bitcoin adn other cojns drastically changes and going down.
For the situation, many people can't go outside their houses, and many can't even go to work. So, I think they're selling their bitcoin to fiat for them to have their money to be use.

Some of my friends who are professional trader on Binance and Bittrex platform also exchanged their BTC at a lowest price. I asked them why they sold it at such a loss, they replied that they thought coronavirus will badly hit the crypto market like the stock market. So, there are many people who thought that way and sold their BTC at cheapest price. I think this is the main reason for bitcoins price collapsed.
Panic sell is inevitable specially when theres a global crisis thats currently happening and even how experienced you are in the field of trading and investment it cant really be avoided for us not to panic.
We are just humans that do have feelings or emotions that do normally react into situations like this and would have those second thoughts of selling out for your survival or thinking of cutting loss.
We cant really just say that corona isnt the reason why yet we have seen on how it impacts traditional markets that we've known and to presume that all things would be on domino effect.
Good thing here is that we do saw that crypto market is starting to climb up again.
4630  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 NBA Season on: April 07, 2020, 07:59:00 PM
~snip~
Thanks for the share up and this one made my day at least.  Grin

Has anybody heard about what the salary cut thing resulted with? There was talks about something between 25% to 50% cut for this years money, I don't know what happened with it.

There are still no updates in regards to that one
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-wants-players-to-take-50-percent-pay-cut-union-counters-with-25-percent-per-report/

Lets wait on what would be the final decision if they would agree with 50% or  25% would be granted.
4631  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc:Could we expect a bigger push -up? on: April 07, 2020, 07:23:06 PM
The Bitcoin Market appears strong after a huge collapse. If you talk about the last market dump then there was only panic. There was no analysis work. Yes Bitcoin halving is coming which will give Bitcoin price a boost. But I think after bitcoin halving, the real bull market of bitcoin will start. We have to wait for that.
Try to compare out on when bitcoins price shoot up which is on after the halving event or in short it do moves out on long term aspect than seeing its short term effect which most people do focus on.
About on expecting a bigger push then we should not think up this way as always because market wont be just like this as always. Of course we can expect bigger push up but we know that
nothing is guaranteed on a speculative market.What matters here is that you do know to make money no matter what market situation we are in.
4632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and covid-19 : Which is more risky ? on: April 06, 2020, 11:56:02 PM
The comparison itself is baseless as I can't understand how you can compare an addiction to a pandemic! Though, gambling is much less risky than COVID-19 because it may be an addiction which can be dropped and you may stop doing it as well as stop losing your money, whereas COVID-19 is a totally different subject here where, if someone is infected and moves nearby you, you won't even know if the virus has already entered your body through that person which is highly a matter of concern. Something (COVID-19) that can't be tackled immediately just because you can't see it v/s gambling which can be left if we create such state of mind for ourselves, next to impossible to give a possible difference between these two.  Undecided
Just to add on where the chance of dying would be there once you get infected thats why i dont really see a reason why would these two should really be differentiated when it comes to risk.
Yes, both have risk but when we do talk about viruses or any other health related things then its an another story and as long it do talks about dying or making a person too sick/ill
then theres no other thing which is more worst than that.Well, being poor due to gambling is unfortunate but our lives is more precious than on anything else.
4633  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What do you think about Arbitrage trading... on: April 06, 2020, 10:51:15 PM
I'm also like to start arbitrage trading. I have see much people make big profit from arbitrage trading.

But that's correct, cryptocurrency trading is risk.But, how do I handle greed after see that?  Roll Eyes

NOTE: I don’t khow bituary trust or scam

Its a scam.. That exchange is unknown and there are lots of exchangers out there which is reputable and been trusted for years.
Arbitrage trading is a rare case scenario here on trading world.You can spot out these opportunities but there are lots of factors that
would affect profitability like fees etc.

In most cases that do happen when an arbitrage opportunity on where you cant even deposit on a certain exchange or in short
they do close deposits on the other hand these kind of opportunities doesnt last long.
4634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Business That Survives when a Crisis on: April 06, 2020, 09:57:24 PM
But for the online gambling business this is the opportunity for them to become popular to the other player who did not that they have online gambling. Maybe once a traditional player of the offline casino play at online because of the lockdown after this they are going to play more online than the traditonal.We know there is more advatanges because you did not travel to go to the place of the casino or you can play at home.


Lot of people that are used to traditional gambling will begin to look for alternate, and that's when online gambling will takes place. More people are going to discover it, and more people are going to be aware that cryptocurrency is the best way to gamble online, additionally, people will discover no hassle gambling and lot of people will gonna benefit on that including as gamblers and traders.

Online gambling business are going to do great in this kind of this situation.
It depends because if you do try to search up for online gambling sites or on a simple google search then you would end on finding typical fiat online gambling sites listing ex. https://www.casino.org/gambling/

So we cant totally say that people would end up on cryptocurrency yet we know that using fiat online or transactions been existing for too long.So they would either end up on
playing on a crypto gambling site or a typical fiat gambling site.

Overall, in times like this where online businesses will surely survive.
4635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH hits $160, after a +11% gainer in the last 24 hours on: April 06, 2020, 06:39:44 PM

I'm hoping this will be the start of the continuous rise of cryptocurrencies though. 11% is too much for a day but as long as the market is gaining popularity to investors, I guess it will go up after another drop.

Creating a thread like this every time there is a spike of price have been done before. Didn't you just inserted a link to your coingecko ETH page? 
Expect for these kind of threads from time to time because people do make post towards it when they do saw some significant price changes in the market specially if the said token is part of their holding.

11% a day growth is nothing new and somewhat common here on crypto.Talking about if it would continue or not? this is the question that cant be answered specially on a very unpredictable market.

Not only ETH is on green now. We do even have 300%+ in last 24 hours. https://coinmarketcap.com/gainers-losers/  Cool
4636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Suggestions for online gamblers on: April 06, 2020, 03:58:34 PM
There are already 10's or even a hundred kinds of threads similar to this which do talks about suggestions or tips on how we do should deal with gambling activity.

Aside from those points above you had mentioned then i would suggest not to forget the golden rule when we do gamble which is "Dont gamble on the amount that you cant afford to lose"
this had always been said and reminded for those who do gamble because if you cant easily accept that you do lose money then it would end up for you to chase losses
and we know on what would be the next thing to that.
Always follow the golden rule because you will become part of the people who have huge debt or people who mostly lose their minds because they cannot control their own emotions. People are allocating too much and they are just expecting profit and not losses, gambling is game of luck and chances and there is no sure win here so all of the people who want to gamble their money should expect losses here.

Outcome or fate will depend on how they do deal up with gambling.If they do let theirselve attached to addiction then this would be surely the thing to happen into their lives which they would be wrecked
up badly in terms of financial aspect.If they dont like for it to happen then they should deal it on other way around.

There were lots of advises that you can read up or even do tell by your family and relatives but those things will be useless if you just simply ignore those words or suggestions.
Gambling isnt bad on general sense but when you do get addicted with it then its an another story.
4637  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin recovering on: April 06, 2020, 03:09:43 PM
had dropped to $ 3800, now Bitcoin is recovering at $ 7000, an increase of almost $ 5000 in a few days, but you must be careful, because the market is still very bad, corona virus is still not gone, I'm sure the price of Bitcoin will go down again before halving begins
I hope this increase can last. I think the price is currently approaching $ 7,500. however, it is still too soon to be happy, because sometimes when the price of bitcoin reaches $ 7k, many people want to sell their assets and cause the price to drop to $ 6k again.
Specially for those people who do able to buy on 6k levels will surely short out for getting their profits.Its good to look at that the price is slowly climbing back to recovery
but i agree that we shouldnt be happy yet since price can dump once again unexpectedly.Dont know whats the cause of this increase but whats more important is that
we do know on how to deal with these waves to make money.For long term aspect then lucky for those who bought on the dip and still holding atm.
4638  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Suggestions for online gamblers on: April 05, 2020, 11:16:52 PM
There are already 10's or even a hundred kinds of threads similar to this which do talks about suggestions or tips on how we do should deal with gambling activity.

Aside from those points above you had mentioned then i would suggest not to forget the golden rule when we do gamble which is "Dont gamble on the amount that you cant afford to lose"
this had always been said and reminded for those who do gamble because if you cant easily accept that you do lose money then it would end up for you to chase losses
and we know on what would be the next thing to that.
4639  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: If we have great ability, is capital from bank loans safe for us to use trade? on: April 05, 2020, 07:22:20 PM
in my opinion
If he's a really good trader and uses stop lose in his trades
he must take a loan from the company without being afraid
And I suggest trading without leverage

Leverage trading on a loaned capital? I cant imagine on the stress and thrill with that one since you do know that you do need to pay something.
So it isnt really that advisable to go directly with leverage if you dont know on what you are doing.When it comes to confidence of a certain trader
to himself then it isnt bad but be sure that he can make money and as long he can repay then its his choice but on my part i wont take a risk
yet im also a profitable trader but taking a loan isnt included on my considerations.
4640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and health 🤕symptoms on: April 05, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
Generally people with gambling addiction may face depression, migraine, distress, intestinal disorders, and other anxiety-related problems. As with other addictions, the consequences of gambling can lead to feelings of despondency and helplessness. This is a disease which opens gate for other diseases.

Also if you are too addictive sometimes you also forget your foods which is also can cause of health problem.

Stress and dipression is the cause of too much lost you have for playing and using more of your money.

   I think many people here talk about bad side of too much gambling, to not say addicted gambling. But who gambles
occasionally, without much stresses and sitting in from of the monitor, can do it entire life without consequences.
   If we think it trough everything we do too much can hurt us in some way. People should be moderate, and to have
more interests and hobbies, not just one! People obsessed with single activity are the ones that have some problem,
try to not be that person!
For us people who are sensible enough will surely realize up those things but we know that each person is different when it comes to perceptions,goals or views in life thats why theres still people who do end up on sticking up on a single thing which in result into problems specially with dealing with gambling.I dont really believe much on the saying that gambling cant relief stress and come to think that
this would rather create stress if you lost up too much, it depends if you do just accept and move on into those loses but most of the time it isnt the case here.
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