It sounds like a good idea on the face of it, but I suspect that the bad managers will arrange for their posters to receive merit to bypass the restriction.
I did think of that. Unfortunately, any system devised by man there will be another man trying to game it. The problem they will face is that they will quickly run out of sMerit to abuse, that was why I suggested an ongoing requirement. Like the Merit system itself, it will take time for it to show its full effect. |
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There is always a silver lining to every cloud. At least that will put an end to all the phishing site adverts that Google always refused to delete.
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Please quote this message guys
----BITCOIN ADRESS ----
bc1qcgv6chyj4s8xwm8k3x0d7lxtq3j8dhnrfqed72
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
i am athanz88 (u=1141886) from bitcointalk.org, today is March 14th,2018, and i am stating that the account is belong to this address.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
IKHOr8iHSDBA+0gpIkqp9wFHNIXnUjoOepw59/sbDJYABgCGk8ZJv1y3dMOVQ1WYaKy/wGHjIqr7yhsCQX74eGc=
Thanks man.
Quoted and verified with Electrum 3.1.0 |
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Prerequisites related to merit points to join campaigns, bounties depends on those campaigns managers, not forum admin. So this suggestion is not appropriate.
That's the idea. It doesn't stop anyone joining a Twitter bounty or whatever but there would be no point paying anyone to post on the forum if their signature was hidden. Not bad idea, but i think it's too complicated. Disable signature or limit signature usage (far less character, no background/color) is more effective.
How is it complicated? I suggested disable (hide) the signature rather than limit it as many of the bounty sig campaigns have decided to continue to recruit Jr. Members and just put a text URL in it. |
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The Merit system has been with us for six weeks now and is clearly having some success in reducing the spam. It is now very hard, if not impossible, for account farmers to provide a constant supply of high ranked accounts. This, of course, is good news for any of us who have become tired of finding any interesting content quickly buried under a pile of shitposts.
What this hasn't addressed is the large number of accounts already in the hands of shitposters. Let's be honest about what rank is all about - signatures and the ability to gain income from them. The ability of someone who is already in possession of, for example, a Hero account (or 10) to continue to get paid for every shitpost they tack on the end of a spam megathread has not diminished or been restrained by the Merit system.
Some campaign managers have taken the initiative to make minimum Merit requirements compulsory to join their campaigns but those managers were already the ones with high standards. They were not the problem, it has always been the managers that just blindly accept the first x hundred people to apply and pay them regardless of the spam they produce.
I have noticed that these spammers are very easy to spot now, they are the ones stuck on 100, 250, 500 or whatever merit number they were initially given. They haven't managed to gain one single Merit point in the last 6 weeks.
So to my suggestion:
Amend the forum to hide signatures of any account that hasn't earned at least 1 Merit in the last 2 months.
This will bar them from getting paid to post and not have any negative impact on anyone making even the tiniest contribution to the forum. Nobody loses their rank and even if someone is away from the forum for a while they can quickly get their signature back.
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Full Member: Activity: 120, gets 3 gold coins under his name.
Say when will my rank change? Active posts meet my requirements.
Go back and read the whole OP, especially focussing on the first 2 lines. There are other requirements that you don't meet. Rank Required activity Required merit Brand new 0 0 Newbie 1 0 Jr Member 30 0 Member 60 10 Full Member 120 100 Sr. Member 240 250 Hero Member 480 500 Legendary Random in the range 775-1030 1000 Honestly do not understand the meaning of all this? It's all very confusing. In the table, everything is simple. Could you answer clearly to me? When will the rank change? Thank you. Rather obviously, from that table you copied when your merit score is 100. If reading a simple table is beyond your ability then I very much doubt you will have anything to say that someone deems worthy of giving merit too. From a quick look at your last couple of pages of post history you are only here to collect Twitter and Facebook bounties, so remaining a Member should not stop you. |
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But in contrast to that, since implementation, ~2152 merit/day were sent. So unless the number of merit sources gets almost quadrupled, it get's harder to earn merit, especially in local boards. Or am I missing something?
The average is heavily weighted towards what happened right after the system was introduced and most of the distributed sMerit that everyone received was used in the first few days. Since then theymos has increased the number of sources from 35 > 57 > 77 and also increased the merit allocation for each source at least twice. Many of those new sources are indeed active on local boards. All you are missing is that it is a problem that is being monitored and dealt with by the administrators already. |
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Full Member: Activity: 120, gets 3 gold coins under his name.
Say when will my rank change? Active posts meet my requirements.
Go back and read the whole OP, especially focussing on the first 2 lines. There are other requirements that you don't meet. |
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Copy paraphrasing. For me that kind of stuff is a false . Don't easily fall on that tricks, because there's no one will offer free capital to do some trading if there's no other intention ,maybe that user who send private message has a intention to hack your private details such private key and etc. So I suggest to don't ever attempt to click those link if the user who offered free capital, convince you to browse through their links. 'cause for sure it is a phising link which is links that can copy your important details.
User 666#666For me that sort of stuff is a false . Don't effectively fall on that traps, on the grounds that there's nobody will offer free money to do some exchanging if there's no other goal ,perhaps that client who send private message has an aim to hack your private subtle elements such private key and so on. So I recommend to absolutely never endeavor to click those connection if the client who offered free capital, persuade you to peruse through their connections. 'cause for beyond any doubt it is a phising join which is joins that can duplicate your essential subtle elements.
Would have been more difficult to spot if it was not the very next post. |
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Thanks. That is so self-explanatory it leaves me wondering why anyone would need to ask a question about it. |
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I wonder what reason he would have had for waiting to sell them. It's not like he didn't have enough coins at this disposal to sell at $3.5k and cover what he needs to raise.
The price was going up, it makes a lot of sense to wait until it stops before selling. He ended up with an average price of 10k which worked out well for him. It's only continuing now and it's going to loom over us, even though it's said that he won't sell anymore coins until after the end of September if at all, it's still apparent that there is a lot of FUD around this. Every time now that the market takes a little fall people will be reminded of this and think if it is the start of him selling off again.
The impact of selling that number of coins is being wildly overestimated. Just look at what happened when Charlie Lee sold all his LTC. Nobody even noticed until he tweeted about it a few days later. The same is true here with the volume of BTC that is traded daily on the exchanges, this had next to no impact and nor will selling the rest. Of course, this being Bitcoin, that won't stop the FUD. What I find more interesting is the way the market fell the two days after the announcement. All the FUD published and discussed in places like this had a larger impact because it affects sentiment and that is what really drives markets. |
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Last question sir does the proxyban is a temporary ban or a permanent ban? thank you sir
A ban is permanent unless the message says something like 'you have been banned for x days' so you would know if it is tempory. I'm not certain about 'proxyban' as to what that means. Can you post the entire message here? I dont know the message sir because it is my friends account and they said that they were unable to post because of proxyban so im just curious if the ban can remove. Anyway, thank you sir for answering my questions. You're welcome. The only thing that comes to mind is that they may have been farming a large number of accounts and got their IP address blacklisted. |
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Last question sir does the proxyban is a temporary ban or a permanent ban? thank you sir
A ban is permanent unless the message says something like 'you have been banned for x days' so you would know if it is tempory. I'm not certain about 'proxyban' as to what that means. Can you post the entire message here? |
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Yes, I understand and I didn't mean to complain that they are still not supporting bech32 addresses. I mean how many gambling sites, exchanges or faucets support withdrawals to bech32 addresses? Almost none actually. So, if they were suppoting it they would be among the pioneers.
And of course kudos for FreeBitco.in that they have already started the process.
The only one I have found so far is Crypto-Games.net, I'd love to hear if anyone else knows of any more. |
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Is it just me? Or doesn't that page load too slow and the image is TOO BIG. I did not even read it because it was loading too slow, and just seeming cumbersome. If you make the image smaller, sncc, that might help it to load faster and to be more manageable so then others will read the substance?
Might be your internet, it loaded immediately for me. I'd agree it is too big, ideally, I prefer infographics that fit on one page. Hasn't the whole Merit Infographic thing already been done to death? |
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Im just curious, If the account is banned because of spam, can the ban account be retrieved? thank you for your answer.
No. Also creating another account is not allowed, the ban applies to the person, not just the account. 25. Ban evasion (using or creating accounts while one of your accounts is banned) is not allowed.[e] |
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Having spent far too much time reading about merits lately I've noticed a tendency towards suggesting changes that would benefit the person suggesting them rather than benefit the forum overall.
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Your suggestion is rather to change the ranking system to mark out exceptional posters (like yourself).
Your implication as to me was not entirely clear; I think you were disclaiming that your words were not self-serving as to yourself, and I don’t wish to cherry-pick a few parts of what you said to turn it backwards. Nevertheless, for clarity: I should like to emphasize that my suggestion in OP is strongly against my own interests. Or at least, it is what most people would consider to be against my interests. I was indeed disclaiming self-interest as I'm certain many seeing that I'm approaching 500 merit to rank up to Hero would accuse me of that. The second part of that was to point out you are rather an exceptional case and I don't think we need rank to tell us that. As of now, I could kick back, make one marginal post (barely above the moderators’ deletion threshold) every two weeks, and still be called a “Hero” starting on 12 March 2019. Also, I am almost two-thirds of the way to Legendary, insofar as merit is concerned. Yet I am advocating that I should be required to continue working hard here.
That's a slightly odd way to look at it, but why not? If you've already done what is required to earn the badge then you deserve it even if you do choose to put your feet up on a tropical beach and sip cocktails from now on. That said, I have sufficient pride that I don’t consider a greater challenge to be against my interests. To the contrary: As I said in OP, I want for earning Hero rank (and higher) to be something to be proud of. That means it must be difficult to achieve.
Perspective check: If the first person below Hero rank to ever reach the Hero rank merit threshold says that the threshold is too low, then I should hope that others would consider that opinion.
This is where our perspectives part. I don't see rank on a forum as anything to be proud about. What this is all about is shutting out the influx of spammers. Signatures were tied to rank a very long time ago and this is dealing with the consequence of that. The balance theymos has put in place looks to be effective in stopping shitposters gaining access to valuable signatures and not holding back anyone who is here to learn and participate. I don't feel that there would be any benefit to upping the requirements beyond giving you the challenge you yearn. |
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Correlation isn't causation but generally here people are more interested when the price is going sky high and less interested when price is plummeting.
This. There is a correlation but it is the other way round. Price drives Google searches not Google searches drives price. I've seen many overlaid charts where you can clearly see that the movement in the price comes first and then Google searches follows and catches up. |
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Finally, it doesn't make any sense to cry over:
a) poor security of crypto trading and
b) regulation
at the same time.
If it could be proven that regulation would, in fact, provide more security, then perhaps it would be a less contentious issue. But all the regulation in the world isn't going to prevent hacks and thefts. One could even argue it may have the opposite effect and create more security risks. If regulation means exchanges have to keep records of all their customers' personal details stored, this could lead to an increased threat of identity theft. It wouldn't just be the coins people will try to break into the exchanges for, it's also a potential cache of photo ID that could either be sold for profit or used to commit fraud. As with all things, it's never that clear cut. Regulation is a complicated and nuanced subject, so it will likely take some time before we manage to strike the right balance. Regulation of fiat markets is mainly in place to protect the customers. Keeping client funds in segregated banks accounts, insuring against theft and other losses and enforcement of data protection rules are part of that. They are also there to ensure a fair playing field for all market participants. All these things would be beneficial also in crypto exchange. Where the fear comes is that regulation is used excessively to force out those that do not want to succumb to it. Satoshi's original purpose: ..allowing any two willing parties to transact directly with each other without the need for a trusted third party.
As long as we can still do that then we don't have much to fear from regulations. |
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When I said this: Whether anyone believes me or not, I really don't care what my rank is.
These are the words I was really looking for. What the fuck is with these fucking people... Dude its a fucking web forum. The rank achieved here is nothing to be proud of...
Holy shit people get a fucking life that isn't tied to this fucking forum...
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